Saturday, January 12th 2013 - 18:57 UTC

P&O cruise line suspends stops in Argentina, confirms calls in the Falklands

British cruise line operator P&O has scrapped stops in Argentina because of continuing tensions with the country over the Falkland Islands. Two of its vessels will no longer dock at three Argentine port destinations on around-the-world cruises. The decision was taken because there was no guarantee they will be able to dock.

Arcadia, registered in Hamilton, Bahamas on around the world cruise will stop in Stanley

A poster welcoming “the British Pirates” in an Argentine port

The cruise hub Ushuaia in Tierra del Fuego is one of the big losers

The liners – Arcadia and Adonia – are also visiting Port Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, on the cruises leaving Southampton next month.

Argentine port authorities have recently refused permission for other cruise ships to dock after they had visited the Falklands or have simply adopted a laissez-faire attitude towards radical groups hounding passengers or delaying docking operations.

Thousands of passengers, due to embark on the 95-destination cruises, were informed of the decision last month.

A spokesperson for the company said: “Over the past few months we have been working hard with both the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and our local agents to gain assurances from the Argentine government that our ships will be allowed to call into Argentine ports.

”Concerns have been raised that ships associated with Britain and flying the red ensign may not be permitted to call into Argentina or will be severely delayed, as has been the case on numerous occasions during 2012.

“Despite our best efforts, these assurances have not been received and the risk that we will be refused entry into these ports of call is too high.”

“As a British cruise company we cannot allow ourselves to be the subject of any political dispute or put our customers and crew into any situation where their enjoyment may be compromised.

”With this in mind, we have had to take the difficult decision to remove all Argentine ports of call from the itinerary.”

P&O will now not dock in Buenos Aires, Puerto Madryn and Ushuaia.

Two cruise ships faced protests in Buenos Aires last month and in the New Year. Seabourn Soujourn and Star Princess were lobbied by protestors on the 4th January. In 2012 the Star Princess was also refused at Ushuaia.

The cancellation of cruise ship calls does not please everyone in Argentina. Many local businesses depend on cruise traffic and they fear long term damage if more and more cruise ship companies cut Argentine ports from their cruise schedules

 

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1 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
Old News?

en.mercopress.com/2012/12/14/p-o-cruise-vessels-choose-falklands-over-ushuaia-puerto-madryn-and-buenos-aires
2 malicious bloke (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
Nothing to say except “reap as you shall sow”, I guess...
3 Raven (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
Now let me think.

Who was recently on the boards claiming that cruise ships were going to skip the Falklands and just visit argentine ports???
4 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:08 pm Report abuse
What a lovely outcome. How long before the Malvinistas cry that it's not fair? To all of you who thought it was funny when a couple of ships didn't call into Stanley due to the violent acts: Suck eggs you dirty scumbag deadbeats.

Chuckle chuckle.
5 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
the statement under the 3rd phot sums it up..........................wait for it we don't need them we're ok, that's right eh think from your home in Sweden?
6 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:17 pm Report abuse
More pressure do you think deadbeats? Do you think that's the answer.

Chuckle chuckle
7 Xect (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:24 pm Report abuse
Falkland's 1 - Argentina 0

Are you enjoying this El Thicko seeing all of these cruise ships desert Argentina. Thats what you get for supporting mindless thugs.

I do love how you were gloating about the violent attacks on the ships to stop them going to the Falkland Islands has spectacularly backfired.
8 ChrisR (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
@1 I Don't Think aka The Turnip In Chief

So your little rant against ships calling in the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas you Old Git) and predicting the utter isolation of the islands has blown up in your face.

I TOLD YOU THAT THE SHITHOLE OF USHUAIA WOULD SUFFER THE FALLOUT.

And BTW a note from the shithole itself:

“Don’t have a crap in Argentina”: (sung to the tune of ‘Don’t cry for me Argentina)
“SEWER SYSTEM IN USHUAIA”
Pumping station still not functioning.
Almost a year since the technical report on the status of the sewer system of Ushuaia was presented by the Advisory Commission on Coastal Management Plan, the Government and Municipality has still not defined who will be responsible for the repair and maintenance.” Source Ushuaia Noticias.
What a bunch of shitters!

Don't you just love it when we take the piss out of your 'knowledge'?

Ha, ha, ha to the power googol (as if you have ANY idea what that is).
9 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
sort it out mercopress hamilton is in Bermuda, whoops another British colony
10 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
Hello! Chile and Uruguay! lots of lovely tourist dollars coming your way.
11 josefina (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:29 pm
Comment removed by the editor.
12 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
Montevideo wonderful place
13 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
Chuckle chuckle chuckle chuckle chuckle chuckle chuckle chuckle chuckle.

This is helping my sense of humour no end.

I suggest you send your thugs to break into more P&O offices until they change their mind and go back to using Argentina. That'll be the answer won't it.

Chuckle chuckle
14 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
@7 josefina

the 'sussie-boy troll again
15 ElaineB (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
I read this a couple of days ago and, in addition, the US and Holland cruise liners are also considering pulling out of Argentina for 2013.
16 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
15 LOL

I just asked her on the story about dead Chavez whether she was Sussie or Tobias? LMFAO.
17 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:40 pm Report abuse
12
And just how many of them do ya think would have been english hey? 10% - 15% if that.

Tell you what though, the money they would have spent would been a 100% American.

Clever, very clever, what you going to do for an encore?
18 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:40 pm Report abuse
@17

Almost like she has a 'psychic' connection to us. Make that a 'psycho' connection LOL
19 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
I repeat.....
One month Old News?
Doesn't take much to make Brits happy!

en.mercopress.com/2012/12/14/p-o-cruise-vessels-choose-falklands-over-ushuaia-puerto-madryn-and-buenos-aires
20 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
Old news is good news, or should that be no news is good news, sod it, I prefer mine better!
21 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
@20 but it still sounds good loser
22 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
@20 think

“I repeat.....
One month Old News?
Doesn't take much to make Brits happy!”

Sorry, think, not much you can do to rain on our parade.

This confirms that Argentina'a deliberate actions have not affected the Falklands tourist industry. That is what we are happy about.

On the other hand, you (Argentina) need to review your policies towards foreign tourists and others.
23 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
Sorry Think but P&O reinforced it today in the UK. It's all over the national news. Mercopress just didn't try too hard to re-jig it.
24 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:54 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

More ”Good News” for you, Brits…..
You know what they say……
If Goldman Sachs (or The Daily Mail or The Sun) says so, it Must be True…..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080402/UK-economy-biggest-Europe-4-decades-say-experts.html

Chuckle chuckle©
25 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
@25 well it will still be a damn sight bigger than rgenweeners
chuckle chuckle :) In fact so will most of the world including most of Africa
26 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:15 pm Report abuse
25
Come on Think. If you want to discuss the UK economy go onto a UK news / blog site.

What about this story though? You had some pretty firm views on it a week or two ago. What do you think now? How would you say the pressure tactics such as thugs intimidating passengers is working out for you?

Come on now. Try for once in your life to directly answer the question. Or is this going to be like when we ask TTT what his ethnic origin is?

Chuckle chuckle.
27 Xect (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
Is that the best El Thicko can come up with in response to his gloating about the cruise ships backfiring spectacularly?

Desperate, very desperate.
28 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
@25 think

Why do you think P&O and other cruise lines will now avoid Argentina in favour of The Falkland Islands??
29 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
25 Think
Good news? :-))))))))))))))))))))))
”Finally some good news (but not until 2050): British economy will be biggest in Europe in four decades, say experts”
30 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
30 Marcos

What do you think about this story of P&O ditching your country for port visits and passenger exchanges? It's funny, isn't it. Because you guys thought it was hilarious when those two ships didn't call into the Falklands after being victims of those Argentine Government-funded criminal thugs. It's funny how it's turned around now.
31 MrFlagpole (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
@8

I think you'll find it's Falklands 2 - 0 Argentina
32 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
Joe
I know, hard to belive innit, I mean, who could possibly have forseen this happening? nobody, much!
33 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
31 Joe Bloggs
Not big deal for us to lose a few tourists but it is a huge deal for you to lose a single one.
Say hi to Lewis for me.
34 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
34 It was a huge deal for you when you thought your thugs got their way.

What should I tell Lewis? Does he know you? I do a bit of business with him so I see him quite often.
35 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
@30 funny how you THINK this is funny, and try to deflect the topic to 2050, when Britain will be the biggest economy in Europe, well I for one hope that's true (for my grandchildrens sake), because if you knew anything you know that Germany and France are now shitting themselves because Britain are threatening to leave the EU, whereas you will probably cease to exsist in 2050 and your kids will have nothing to look forward to except abject poverty, that's of course if you actually live in rgenweener which I doubt in fact we all know Think (GUZZ) doesn't he lives in Sweden so laugh away panyo, he who laughs last laughs longest.
And the British flag will still be flying over the FALKLAND ISLANDS (there is no malvinas) in 2050 and they will be very rich and laughing at you :))))))))))))
36 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
Oh think????? Think.......THINK!!!!! where are you??

what's the matter think?? all this good news about England and the Falklands too much for you....... I remember when you and the rest of your La Campora deadbeat were ready to take on the world, just because you got your boat back. What's the matter??? Is it a bit lonely, out on that limb??

Has all this good news made you shrivel up. A bit like gremlins do in the sunlight? Or is it more like the Wicked Witch of the West getting water on her??
37 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
Classic case of backpedalling if ever I heard it! mimimising the impact on their trade and trying to trannsfer the it onto the Islands, classic distraction technique and reeking of desperation.
38 ElaineB (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
Argentina had a 10% drop in tourism last year, before this development. I can understand it when the place barely runs and the number of blockades has increased threefold. Tourist do not want to be caught up in all the violence, crime and turmoil. They want to enjoy their vacation and spend their hard-earned money where it is appreciated.

It is simple, short-term thinking by the Argentine government (clearly behind this violence). Like laughing about the financial situation in the UK in four decades. It is why Argentina constantly falls flat on its' face; no one can look beyond where their next meal in coming from. Development of a country takes long-term planning and the ability to see it through, however hard it may be. Ask Chile; they did it.
39 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
(27) Joe Bloggs

1) I have just pointed out the “Old Age” of this piece of “Recicled News”.

2) I would have been much surprised if a Patriotic British Company as P&O hadn't sided fully with the British Squatters on Malvinas.

3) As we both very well know, other cruise companies are taking very diferent business decisions.

4) You are naive or just plain Turnip if you, even for a minute “Think” that the present or any future Argentinean administration won't continue pressing as much as possible to get you British squatters out of our territory.

5) The small economical loses that such a firm Argentinean Anti-Imperialist policy could entail are perfectly acceptable for most of us Argentineans.

In the hope that my answer is “direct” enough for you, my dear British squatter, I wish you a nice Weekend.....
40 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
“You are naive or just plain Turnip if you, even for a minute “Think” that the present or any future Argentinean administration won't continue pressing as much as possible to get you British squatters out of our territory”

Chuckle, chuckle.................. Brainwashed anyone???

Clown
41 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
He has a talent for stating the obvious though!
42 andy65 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
@Marcos Alejandro and @Think (#

Always suprised when you greaseballs can not explain headlines like this

en.mercopress.com/2013/01/12/eleven-million-argentines-surviving-on-7-dollars-per-day-according-to-indec

DAM no better tham some African 3rd world countrys

$7 = £4.34 these F....s are starving ELEVERN MILLION PEOPLE
43 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
40 Think

I wouldn't for a minute think that you would reduce your “pressure.” Even if it isn't having the effect you'd like. The more you try to hurt us the more the UK will strengthen its resolve to protect us. So please keep up your impotent games.

There's an old saying Think. Look after the pennies/ cents and the pounds/ dollars will look after themselves. How many Ushuaian taxi drivers, tour guides, souvenir shop owners, bus companies, wholesales and pick-pockets, etc, do you think are happy about the loss of P&O?

So tell me this then Augustus, if you're not surprised that P&O would dump you like the thugs and bullies you are, why didn't La Campora work that one out before targeting them? Stroke of genius hey old man?

BTW you deadbeat. I hardly come on here any more but according to the posts from some of my fan club, you don't actually live in Argentina. You naughty old man.

You have a good weekend too.

Chuckle chuckle.
44 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
Talent for stating the obvious.

“You are naive or just plain Turnip if you, even for a minute “Think” that the present or any future Argentinean administration won't continue pressing as much as possible to get you British squatters out of our territory..”

An attitude like that, pretty well much guarantees a strong garrison on the Island for at least a generation and probably more, to ensure the Islanders legitimate freedoms.
45 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
45 reality check

Speaking of a strong garrison:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9797902/Defence-chiefs-prepare-new-plans-to-defend-Falkland-Islands.html

Chuckle chuckle
46 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
44 Joe Bloggs

You say:
“BTW....... according to the posts from some of my fan club, you don't actually live in Argentina.”

I say:
If my memory serves me right, according to yourself, “Mr. DoveoverDover” and me, “Mr. Think” were the same person...
Sooo...... According to yourself, I could be living in Kent...

But I don't. ;-)
47 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
Speaking of the great naval commander, royal navy retired, where on earth has he gone? Obviously working on something big. Maybe he was the source of the story the Telegraph wrote today (see 46).

Now let's see. The last time I asked where that deadbeat was he popped up like a good little sprog.

Good night old man. I have more important things to do. No doubt you'll be on here until you fall asleep. Try counting the years that Argentina has gone through political upheaval. I find that always works for me.

Chuckle chuckle.
48 andy65 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:08 pm Report abuse
@Think (#) The fact you never asnswer THE TRUE NEGATIVES about shit hole Argentina tells me your parents got out to live in a more prosperous democratic country,you should pity the eleven million argies living on $7 per day thats 25% or a quarter of The Argentine population-what a country.
49 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

Ohhhhh ……Yessss, Yessss……Pleeeeeease……

Send your :”Royal Navy’s Response Task Force Group, a flotilla comprising destroyers, a frigate, a submarine and commandos.” to the South-Atlantic…….

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9797902/Defence-chiefs-prepare-new-plans-to-defend-Falkland-Islands.html

Ohhhhh ……Yessss, Yessss……Pleeeeeease……
Show us Argies (and the rest of the world) that the “Brutish Mean Business”
Show us Argies (and the rest of the world) how the “Brutish do Business”

Chuckle chuckle©
50 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:32 pm Report abuse
Brutish mean business, Brutish do business. Love the play on words, especially flattering, coming from an arrogantine!
51 andy65 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
@Think (#) Answer the truth you greaseball piece of shit at least the Brits have a decent navy unlike your shit hole with a sailing ship just been released from the bailiffs.
52 LEPRecon (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
@50 - Think

Pathetic when you won't answer simple questions and instead constantly try to divert the thread.

But that's Argentina for you. Pathetic. Desperate. Weak.
53 Xect (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
Why would we need to show you we mean business? We crushed you last time you stepped out of line.

Britain picking a fight with Argentina is akin to a boxer picking on a disabled child.

Besides it seems you don't know the difference between defence and attack.

Chuckle chuckle at yet another failed attempt to slight the British....
54 commonsparrow (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
Well, this is what CFK wanted, right? Isolationism. I feel bad for those innocent argentine that draw business from these ports, as you read in the last paragraph. The Falkland Islands will prosper, I just read in the NY Times, here, one of the 46 places to go in 2013. I've been to Bermuda, I think the Falklands would be just as lovely.
travel.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/travel/the-46-places-to-go-in-2013.html?pagewanted=all
55 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
@50
Nice bit info regarding the deployment of the British military and defence of the Fslklands.

That should nicely discourage any CFK plans to disrupt or undermine the Referendum.
Good to hear that Britain has contingency plans and will not allow Argentine harrasment of legal Falklands industry or tourism.

Think, got anything else to fantasize about, until March?

:-)
56 andy65 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
They shit themselves few months back at the site of HMS DAUNTLESS but let the Argentine greaseball never forget The Ghurkas have unfinished business also
57 stick up your junta (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:46 pm Report abuse
@55 nice link

Come on in Think
The Water's Lovely

The practical Falklanders, though, are moving on, breaking ground this year on a Falkland Islands Museum as part of an overhaul and expansion of the waterfront in the capital, Stanley, along with considering new air routes. The Malvina House Hotel, Stanley’s largest, which doubled in size in 2010, has just expanded its harbor-view restaurant and will expand further to 70 rooms by early 2014. Come soon, though, as oil money rapidly transforms Stanley’s ethnic, economic and social character, driving development in this tiny, eccentric village of about 2,000 year-round residents.
58 andy65 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:52 pm Report abuse
@@Marcos Alejandro and @Think

Here you are nice bit of disco music for you to play tonight Saturday if you have friends coming round free video included.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys_H5IwaFGI
59 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:11 pm Report abuse
@@Marcos Alejandro and @Think

More music for the Disco Trolls:

youtu.be/A3b9gOtQoq4

Think of it as an encouragement for CFK's Economic, and Indigenous People's policies.
60 Beef (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:13 pm Report abuse
So the cruise company's are removing Argentina from their itinerarys. This is clear evidence that people would prefer the Falklands over Argentina as these cruise companies would be driven by the market demand of their clients.

So the Argie threats that their actions would place the Falklands under economic hardship are toothless.

The Argie threats to catch all the fish before they enter FI waters have also proven to be toothless.

The May 2012 court action against the Falkland Island oil exploration promised by the Argie government has still not happened and we are closer to May 2013!

For some reason Marcos is avoiding answering my questions as to what has happened to that promise of legal action. Wonder why?
61 Anbar (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:21 pm Report abuse
“””3) As we both very well know, other cruise companies are taking very diferent business decisions.“””

No, they are not.

I contacted the likes of Seaborune that month back and they are not removing the Falklands as a destination and confirmed it through to 2015 in fact.

So, you're talking bollocks.

again.
62 andy65 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
@Beef (#, Marcos Alejandro and @Think can not answer any truth on Argentina because they do not live there and are so far removed from reality niether of them would know the truth if it hit them in the bollocks,something which they are both good at talking.
63 Anglotino (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:30 pm Report abuse
I'm sure Think thought he would get in first and set the tone for this forum. But it was quite a spectacular backfire. I'd be embarrassed if my government was destroying an export industry like this.

Cruise line tourists are the gold standard. You don't have to build hotel infrastructure, just provide services. It is the easiest export industry to make money from. And they have extremely high disposable incomes.

And Argentina is quickly destroying it. This will rip tens of millions of dollars out of the economy. In pesos that will soon be approaching the hundred million mark.

And for what. Some principles. Doubtful. Why can't the Argentines on here see that Argentina is heading for economic collapse again? All the economic figures point to it, but the increased Falklands rhetoric is a dead giveaway.

No use talking about 11% growth when it has collapsed to 0.6%.

No use talking about government social spending when real inflation is 25%

No use talking about lower government debt when hardly anyone is working. (According to MECON Argentina has 16 million people working-compare that to Australia's 11.5 million).

So go ahead Think revel in this news. Because you might think it is old news but I guarantee it will be repeated again in the future.

Your name reminds me of a saying:
'Thought thought his arse was out of bed. So he got out and tucked it in!'
64 Think (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

A freshly written, candid comment from a sweet American…..

”Comment number 2; Jaxcat..:

I've been there and it was on a cruise ship. I loved it.
Smelled a peat fire on an inland sheep farm, a first for me, and had baked cookies prepared by the local women.
But the rest of my cruise mates dispised every thing about the Falklands.
They felt it was ugly, cold, out of the way and boring and to beat all only one pub that kept odd hours.
Ha.ha. Maybe we Americans are “ugly” abroad.
My fellow passengers were going to let Holland American Cruise line know their complaints.
Maybe similiar feelings by tourists have more to do with it than any impending military conflicts..”

www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/01/08/179290/30-years-after-war-britain-battles.html#storylink=cpy

”Ugly, Cold, Out of the Way and Boring………”
Juppppp…… that’s the general opinion of most people about them Islands….
Luckily, some of us can see their hidden ”beauty”….

Chuckle chuckle©
65 surfer (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
Agent 'Botox' is doing better than I could have expected, almost too well.
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How we got people to vote for her was a stroke of genius, Turkeys voting for Christmas..
66 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 11:50 pm Report abuse
Yawns! Good time to build an Argentine shipping industry, without competition building ships can be as productive as shooting fish in a barrel. What ever happened with the industrious people in Argentina? Does the IMF and WTO have to build everything for them, last time I checked everyone was in a big strike while CFK was working over time for libertad. Maybe now Argentine can start building their own ships, I hear there is great fishing in Malvinas Argentina, Tourism is over rated.
67 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:03 am Report abuse
@Think ””Ugly, Cold, Out of the Way and Boring………”

Now my friend we all know thats a perfect description for The Botox Queen Crissy Kirchner I could not have descibed her any better WELL DONE.
68 surfer (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:05 am Report abuse
Argentina is now 3rd world, congrats.

There's a great cartoon, about Idi Amin I believe, with the evolutionary phases from ape to man, Amin is cheerfully running back along the line saying 'this way guys!'.

Just as appropriate for good 'ol Botox, great job.
69 Beef (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:06 am Report abuse
But Think, consumers make decisions with their wallets and these decision do not correlate to subjective statements. Companies respond to market demand so it appears there is greater demand to visit the Islands rather than Argentina.

Any idea why the May 2012 court action has gone all quiet? Are your politicians full of hot air and was it nothing more than a headline grabber for internal consumption.

Going to be a great four to five years preparing for first oil from sealion isn't it?
70 surfer (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:21 am Report abuse
First oil production Falkland Islands 2017

m.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/oct/19/falklands-start-producing-oil-2017-rockhopper

(Argentine pirates confined to port, 21st century colonialist ambitions thwarted)
71 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:30 am Report abuse
@Think, You could never say she was a pretty

giwww.abcdelasemana.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cristina-fernandez-de-kirchner_fullblock.jpgrl could ya.
72 yankeeboy (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:31 am Report abuse
One thing tourists (or everyone) wants is safety when they travel, can anyone from the Falklands tell us how many tourists have been;
robbed
raped
beaten
killed
mugged
swindled
threatened
in the last year?

Now someone from Arg anyone know or shall I just go through the headlines? I am sure the Gov't doesn't report such stats.

Although there are plenty of warnings out there...
73 Think (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:40 am Report abuse
(70) Beef

1) Your comment does not correlate with the factual numbers of cruising ships visiting respectively Argentina and the Malvinas.
Please inform yourself before commenting........

2) “The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.”
A lovely example being the hundreds and hundreds of military and civilian bastads in Argentina finally getting their punishment for their decades old crimes.......

3) I thought you thought you were a smart investor.....
After nearly three (3) years of investment you can, at best, show a paper win of about 0% on your Malvinas Oil Investments....
And you “Think” it “will be great” to have your money immobilized four to five more years on some shares that, in the very best of cases, will be sharply diluted a couple of more times.......

Have fun...............
74 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:53 am Report abuse
@Think Why dont you stop talking bollocks and being less selective in what you answer we fully understand your thick head is full of propoganda
75 surfer (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:58 am Report abuse
All that needs to happen is one group of these Campora gangsters to overstep the mark, an elderly US tourist gets injured or worse, end of all cruise ship trade in ARG.

Very dangerous aggressive game this populist regime is playing, stoking up colonialist fervour, bloody dangerous.
76 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:20 am Report abuse
Can you imagine roaming gangs being allowed to terrorise crusie ships in a civilised country,it just would not be allowed to happen
77 HansNiesund (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:39 am Report abuse
@40 Think

”5) The small economical loses that such a firm Argentinean Anti-Imperialist policy could entail are perfectly acceptable for most of us Argentineans”

Impotent posturing is its own reward, huh, Think? Especially if someone else is paying.
78 you are not first (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:48 am Report abuse
You got it. We are tired about PIRATES. Oh, I am sorry I meant Brits.
Brits can claim their PBI is based in one of the oldest professions in the world.
79 ajoknoblauch (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:48 am Report abuse
It's truly ironic that a government claiming that it will honor its foreign debts does everything possible to reduce the amount of foreign exchange entering the country.
80 José Malvinero (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:36 am Report abuse
I congratulate the authors of the second picture poster of this article.
SPECTACULAR!
81 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:39 am Report abuse
I'm sure the people of three Argentine ports would love to thank CFK, personally.

Right, PH???
82 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 03:08 am Report abuse
#77 we don't have to imagine it ! It was on CNN.
www.cnn.com/2013/01/08/world/europe/northern-ireland-unrest/index.html
83 Nostrolldamus the 8th (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 03:51 am Report abuse
@78

So your suggestion would be Argentina keep pretending things are “a-OK” with the UK?

Quite honestly, I prefer this kind of honesty to diplomatic nonsense.
84 Beef (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:25 am Report abuse
Think - the fact that these ships have decided on such an action is evidence of market demand.

So you are comparing the human rights abuses of your previous rulers to the oil exploration? Bit low for you. You, like me know that there will be no court action that has any validity, if any at all.

My FI investments have made profits in terms of paper, no. of shares and GBP. Why would my RKH shares be diluted significantly when the co are fully funded to production with an additional cash carry. Also if there is any significant share issue then this raises cash so contributes to the NAV of the company.

Not up to your usual standards are we Think. Having a bad day?
85 brasherboot (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:37 am Report abuse
Is it just me?

I love being called a pirate by Argentines. It evokes a certain age when we fought the Spanish who were slaughtering native South Americans, spreading syphilis and stealing gold

Please Argentinians, make me proud, call me a pirate again.
86 stick up your junta (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 09:11 am Report abuse
@65
Mind you the birds in the Falklands dont shit all over you

5. Re: 'Bird Poo' scam alive and well in Buenos Aires

10 July 2012, 4:03




I have been traveling all over the world for 30 years and never had happen to me, what happened today. It's a disgrace , that the Argentinian Police are not stamping this out. Apologies, but it will unfortunately taint my view of BA. Having green stinking crap spayed all over you, is not my idea of a good time. Argentina desperately needs foreign currency . The authorities should be all over this disgraceful behavior. As I came home tonight, a youngish guy was going the rubbish, people had left out for collection. My sense is the economy is in a lot more trouble than the authorities are admitting. Very few places will take credit cards, so clearly a run on the banks is considered a possibility
87 Think (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 09:49 am Report abuse
(85) Beef

You say:
“The fact that these ships have decided on such an action is evidence of market demand.”
I say:
You are contradicting British P&O’s own explanation about the aforementioned action…..

You say:
“You are comparing the human rights abuses of your previous rulers to the oil exploration? “
I say:
I didn’t do such a thing……….
I said: “The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.” as they indeed do….
But now that you mention it….. Didn’t you Brits punish Piracy with the Capital Punishment once?

You say:
“My FI investments have made profits in terms of paper, no. of shares and GBP.”
I say:
Judging from the information, provided by yourself during the last years, about the nature and average values of your Malvinas Pirate Oil Exploration Portfolio, I would say that either did you lie to us then or you are lying to us and yourself now…
Typical of youngish persons……….. (That about lying to themselves)
One of the reasons I have a high opinion of Mature Scottish poster: “Mr. DoveoverDover” is his sincerity….
In one of his first comments he told us that: ”His missus was not greatly impressed” with the performance of his RKH/FOGL&BOR Portfolio…….

Say no more ;-)))

PS:
My own paper loss on my involuntary investment in FOGL is about 60%......
What’s yours?
88 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 09:59 am Report abuse
2.726 tourists and all their dollars going elsewhere, only one loser in this story.
89 Room101 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:05 am Report abuse
This means that tourists are no longer safe in Argentina; even if they are, the publicity and reactions to the industry are seriously negative in that score.
90 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:14 am Report abuse
89 and 90

The deadbeats on here say they are happy that the locals who rely on the cruise ships in Argentina are losing their income. All in the name of the greater national cause. A national cause that will never get them anywhere. A national cause that will only make the UK more determined to protect us. A national cause that might have a tiny chance of saving CFK's scrawny neck.

Think old man, as for your beloved commander, everyone knows he is a fake and either a figment of your own mind or one of your old cronies from the halcyon days when Bennies did what they were told, had a sense of humour and were grateful for the bread crumbs Argentina and the UK threw us. It's not really important which he is. It makes no difference. What's important is that he's as impotent as you when it comes to altering the course of the Falkland Islands.
91 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:16 am Report abuse
'Warship, troops and war plane could be sent to Falklands to 'show Britain's force' to Argentina'
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261616/f.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
92 Doveoverdover (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:29 am Report abuse
I go away for a couple of weeks skiing and look what happens. Nothing much. And Mrs McDod remains as unimpressed with my FI oil portfolio as ever, by the way.
93 Gordo1 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:37 am Report abuse
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9797902/Defence-chiefs-prepare-new-plans-to-defend-Falkland-Islands.html

It is quite clear that Britain will entertain no nonsense from la Kretina but it is quite clear that these are defensive measures and not not be interpreted as “militarisation” of the South Atlantic. There is no intention implied that Argentina will be invaded by Britain - Latin America must realise that these measures are provoked by the nonsensical rhetoric of the Argentine President and her Foreign Minister which encourages rogue elements of Argentine society, such as Quebracho, to take violent actions against British presence in their country and which could lead to some “unfriendly” gesture towards the British territory of the Falkland Islands.
94 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:38 am Report abuse
55 commonsparrow & 82 Troy Tempest

Here is what “Think” has said about the loss of business

“The small economical loses that such a firm Argentinean Anti-Imperialist policy could entail are perfectly acceptable for most of us Argentineans”

You heard it from the horses mouth!! Ordinary Argentinean's driven into poverty by TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / KFC / The Harpy is “perfectly acceptable for most of us Argentineans” WOW!!! The casual way he talks about the loss of livelihood, it makes you wonder if he has any respect for any life anywhere.......
95 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:45 am Report abuse
Like I said last night. Mention his name and he turns up like a good little sprog.

95 toooldtodieyoung
What would CFK and her subsidised La Campora thugs care if thousands of cruise ship-reliant grafters struggle to feed their families.
96 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:50 am Report abuse
92 Steve-33-uk

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261616/f.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Nice link there steve.

Oh you've got to love the daily fail haven't you? that first picture It's not HMS Edinburgh. The picture is of a Frigate hence the big white painted “F221” on the side.

HMS Edinburgh is a destroyer hence her Pennant number: D97.

Trust the daily fail to start making up ships that we haven't got....... I don't know who's it is is, but it ain't ours!!!!
97 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:51 am Report abuse
Of course she realises that Argentines have to make sacrifices for the benefit of the nation. Just look what a fine example she herself is setting, giving up the use of her presidential jet and making do with leasing a British one.
98 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:00 am Report abuse
'Falkland, a history of whalers and sailors'
www.clarin.com/zona/Malvinas-historia-balleneros-navegantes_0_846515451.html

'UN distributes CFK's claim against Cameron'
www.nuevodiarioweb.com.ar/notas/2013/1/13/distribuye-reclamo-contra-cameron-429158.asp

'A complaint by the chartered plane'
www.clarin.com/politica/denuncia-avion-alquilado_0_845915511.html
99 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:07 am Report abuse
@97 Too
Looks Russian, or Eastern European to me, the Deck gun and Missile launcher remind me of their technology, but the absolute give away, is the shield fixed on her bows. At a guess, I'd say Polish. Know of no RN ship ever having such a thing, I'm no matelot though.
100 Lou Spoo (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:10 am Report abuse
@97 & 100

The F221 is a Sachsen class air defence frigate of the German navy.

www.strategypage.com/military_photos/military_photos_20100610231647.aspx
101 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:15 am Report abuse
Spot on, Lou Spoo.
102 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:19 am Report abuse
@101 Lou Spoo

Nice work you're right, it look nothing like HMS Edinburgh, pretty impressive ship though.
103 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:27 am Report abuse
VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK.
104 Think (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:29 am Report abuse
TWIMC

Soooo.............
The Daily Mail made two mistakes then.....
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261616/f.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

First picture is not of a British ship but the German frigate “Hessen”.
Second picture is not of some British Isles but the Argentinean Islas Malvinas.

:-)))
105 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:32 am Report abuse
You can not blame the Daily Mail for British Naval Stealth technology, now can you!
106 Beef (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:35 am Report abuse
Think - I am pleased that you consider me young at 34 :)

Please explain how the wheels of justice will affect the FI oil explorers as I have yet to find a court with the required jurisdiction that your government will present to. You and I know that such a case with any validity will never be presented by your gvt and you are simply deflecting this fact with such statements rticulated above.

In terms of my results I am more than happy to state these as I did for my online tax return (obviously paper loss/gain do not go on this as one hasn't disposed of any assests in that case).

RKH. Cash gain over last 2 yrs is 50k (split between me and the other Dr Beef as I transfer 50% of my holdings to make us of her CGT allowance).

Risk = 15k spent on recent purchases from £1.5 to £1.6. To derisk initial capital at £2.50 (in no rush).

FOGL - paper loss of 7K with inital holding intact after de-risking twice and purchases at recent lows. Holding at 20K worth of shares.

BOR - Paper loss of 5k 75% derisked with initial holding intact and loss down from low of 8k (smallest holding due to risk with no farm in spreaing the risk).

This is my equity position and doesn't include my spread bet activity which is not liable for tax as one does not hold an asset and it is not the my sole source of income.
107 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:39 am Report abuse
“Second picture is not of some British Isles but the Argentinean Islas Malvinas.”

Nice of the Malnavista to fly the correct flag in the foreground.
108 surfer (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:20 pm Report abuse
#88 Investment advice from Argentina, seen it all now!
109 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:29 pm Report abuse
@Think (#, Just like your leader a smelly bag of wind going no where
110 LEPRecon (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:44 pm Report abuse
@105 - Think

I don't see any pictures of these mythical islands you call 'Malvinas', just British territory call the Falkland Islands. You can tell it's British due to the big UNION flag flying on them.

Hey, I wonder how your dear leader will act when the RN send a fleet of ships to 'train' in the South Atlantic?

A Helicoptor/Assault carrier - with lots of Apache attack helicoptors on board.
A couple of destroyers, one T45 at least.
A submarine.
Lots of Royal Marines.

In the meantime, 16 Air Assault Bde (the Para's) will taken this opportunity to 'train' on the Falklands.

1. Do you think she'll blow a gasket?

2. Do you think she'll do something monumentally stupid, like sending young Argentine men to die for her hubris?

3. Do you think she'll cry to the UN, the OAS, Unasur, Mercosur, and everyone else that she thinks might listen, only to find that they're not interested in her inane rants?

I think she'll go for option 1 followed by option 3.

But at the end of the day, the Falklands will remain British. They'll be British tomorrow, and the day after, and for years to come, until the people of the Falklands decide that they want to become an independent nation in their own right.

But the point is, that Argentina's colonial expansionist ambitions will never come to fruition, and given the fact that you Argentines are your own worst enemy, you'll never be in a position to truly threaten the Falklands and their people.

The Argentine government and their La Campora zombies are bullies. And every one knows that bullies are cowards. La Campora are very brave when attacking unarmed civilian tourists and trying to intimidate them (just like your military junta were - see the parallels?), but when it comes to actually putting their lives on the line, they'll disappear like smoke.
111 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 12:48 pm Report abuse
Did anyone see the CNN report earlier on the MESS about to be uncovered on Hugo Chavez death? seems he as been conning his people with oil money over the years ,sounds serious guess you can see why old Crissy Cruchner looks up to old Chavez,two of a kind I guess.
112 ChrisR (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:01 pm Report abuse
107 Beef

I Don't Think, given his previous posts, must be approaching 80 YO, he has never denied it when I have challenged him.

'Young' to him is probably sub-50.

You will find, as I have, that the older you get the younger other people seem to be!

I am 67 this year and anybody under 40 is most definitely young. ;o)
113 JuanGabriel (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:09 pm Report abuse
@112 sounds like a lot of potential trouble for the pals of Chavez as well. Cuba probably has most to lose but Argentina has been getting a lot of financial support from Chavez as well.
114 Teaboy2 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:15 pm Report abuse
The daily mail made no mistake at all! They know perfectly well that Timmerman used a picture, in a UK newspaper, of a vanguard class submarine capable of launching nuclear warheads. When he went to the UN and wrongly claimed that Britain had sent a nuclear capable submarine to the south Atlantic, a nuclear weapons free zone. When in fact we had sent a nuclear powered submarine that was not a vanguard class, and therefore not capable of launching Nuclear warheads.

So the Daily Mail printed a picture of the Non British Ship purely to confuse the Argentine Non-Intelligence agency. Who will mostly likely now use that image claiming it was capture by their intelligence service and claim that it is the HMS Edinburgh lol
115 ElaineB (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:17 pm Report abuse
I am pretty sure Morales sold his soul cheap too.

The one reason I believe Chavez ran for election when he knew he was dying was pure vanity. He could not stand to have his scam and failure revealed whilst alive.

Chavez did improve the lives of the poor of Venezuela. But only enough to keep him in power, never enough for them to become self-sufficient or middle class. Much like the Kirchner oligarchy, the primary goal is to keep power and the wealth the can thus be acquired.
116 Boovis (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:20 pm Report abuse
The French have an agreement with the UK that we can borrow their warfare kit whenever we need it as long as it doesn't put France in a weaker position. I read estimates that it would take about six months for an RN crew to train to use something like the CDG aircraft carrier; what are the chances that we've already been doing that? France and the UK have been like “that” in recent conflicts, I wouldn't be surprised if they came to give a helping hand if it kicked off in the Falklands, despite the crap they tried to pull with arms supplies to the Junta in 1982.
France plus UK equals Argentina gets it's arse handed to her on a silver platter, even if every single one of her cancer or death ridden friends turn up for the party.
117 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:36 pm Report abuse
Saw on the news this morning that UK RAF C17 Globemaster Aircraft were being tasked to support the French operations against Al Quada in Mali.
118 Shed-time (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:45 pm Report abuse
@116 ignoring the thin facade of left-wing rhetoric, south america is full of Machiavellian right-wingers desperately holding onto the legacy they have corruptly gained from the uneducated masses.

He'll be like Mao, and 50 years later the uneducated will still be harping on about how he personally delivered them into a socialist utopia that doesn't exist. Such is the cult of personality upon which humanity rests itself.
119 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:22 pm Report abuse
@reality check Yes there is a French British agreement to use eachothers equipment,you never know we might see The Charles DeGaule sailing south soon also
120 yankeeboy (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
“The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.”
For once I agree,with El Retardo de Chubut

In 2013 we should see these resolved:
NY Appeals with holdouts
ICSID
IMF
Paris Club
WTO

and Coming Soon to a court near you:

GDP and Inflation linked bondholders asking for the corrected interest payments for the last decade ( est U$30B underpayment)

Gotta give them something to look forward to apparently a 36% inflation and a 20% devaluation is just not enough.
121 Shed-time (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:42 pm Report abuse
@121 I do wonder what she's going to call the people who want the corrected interest payments... they're not vultures surely, so she'll probably call them rats? vermin? pests?

Then their stooge-du-jour will be wheeled out to make a speech about how it is morally wrong to expect to be paid the amount of interest that you signed up for when you bought the bonds.

What a strange and morally vacuous place it is.
122 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:44 pm Report abuse
Old Crissy and Argentines are fond of there pet names for others Pirats, Vultures like being in a school playground
123 Anbar (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 02:50 pm Report abuse
“”“”“”“”“@Think Why dont you stop talking bollocks and being less selective in what you answer we fully understand your thick head is full of propoganda”“”“”“”“”“”

...because, like his president, he cant answer the difficult questions, only try to avoid or obfuscate them.

His rhetoric tends to harden alongside that of the Argentine government as they grow more desperate to lay some ground for when the economic realities become far too obvious even for the paid supporters to ignore.

A nice Argentine response to the hiring of a british jet

“”“”“ ”A real shame. Dictate laws and shit on them, let alone those not issued them. Argentinos, we face one of the most disastrous administrations someone may have memory. This year we will do more and more numerous marches.
Obviously, the opposition should seriously get to work immediately and meanness to be set in the next election will put time limit on this filth kk.“”“””

No doubt ThinKKK will find a reason to show this was really a reply by a brit, not an argentine. we all know that all argentines, everywhere in the world, support CFK 100%. /em rolls eyes
124 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
97 toooldtodieyoung
“Trust the daily fail to start making up ships that we haven't got....... I don't know who's it is is, but it ain't ours!!!!”

Bloody hell! Is Cameron sending the German navy to Argentina? It must be true then that all the HMS's Crap were scrapped in Turkey.
Hurry up David, why is taking so long? Are you sending Jimmy Savile in a Lancaster?

Lancaster
125 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 04:40 pm Report abuse
Very funny expat, how's this one. KFC leaves Cuba for the next step of her tour.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUHyCLbC9Pc
126 Brit Bob (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
More good news for the Banana Republic of Argentina.

IMF Red Card Next!

Can't wait...
127 Shed-time (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
@126 here's a recent film of her at Mar de Mierda submarine base with her La Campora supporters, welcoming back some sailing dinghy.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIkxt1VHUB8
128 Alexei (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:08 pm Report abuse
Gosh! What a lot of comments from our malvinista friends, this sensible decision by P&O seems to have really wound them up.
129 ChrisR (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:09 pm Report abuse
128 Shed-time

I thought they were getting ready to go to Argentina.
130 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:10 pm Report abuse
126 :-)) What do you expect? Is a British plane.
131 reality check (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
Touche!
132 yankeeboy (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:29 pm Report abuse
So no one wants to buy out PetroBras in Argentina.

What a surprise.
133 ajoknoblauch (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
#86 Syphilis was a New World disease that, unlike smallpox and flu that killed Amerindian peoples in catastrophic numbers, made its way back to Europe - the revenge of the Americas, in a sense.
134 agent999 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:47 pm Report abuse
@134
It is debatable that it was a new world disease, but what has this got do do with cruises being suspended ?
135 ChrisR (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
135 agent999

It's a good job they are no longer calling in AG otherwise if a tourist dipped his wick he would probably end up with all sorts of nice little 'presents' he could do without, starting with pubic lice.
136 ajoknoblauch (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 06:25 pm Report abuse
@135: Someone else brought it up, but see books.google.com/books?id=7yClMF7IQt8C&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=syphilis+columbian+exchange&source=bl&ots=WYM39AsCTy&sig=JMAL2mizphI8Jxa3xneOTjrKmlY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nvvyUM2AI4TtiwL1x4CABg&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=syphilis%20columbian%20exchange&f=false
137 brasherboot (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
I love Argentines in a white wine sauce
138 agent999 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
@137
again debatable.
but why bring this topic here in the first place??
139 ajoknoblauch (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
*139: All the evidence points that way but, again, I wasn't the one who brought it up. Ask him (or her).
140 agent999 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
@140
Sorry I had missed @86 reference to this !
141 Conqueror (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
@93 Perhaps you should have bought shares in British companies!
@108 Dead right. The ONLY legitimate flag!
@117 Can't see Britain borrowing France's carrier, the “asset” most often mentioned. Have you checked on how often it has to be repaired? Or how far it can get? When it was “despatched” to take part in the Libyan matter, it lasted about a week. Although it was never quite clear whether it was another problem with the ship, or the crew just wanted to get home for the weekend!
@125 The submarines are REAL! So are the missiles. What sort of missiles would you like?
@129 I just sent P&O Cruises a message of congratulations. And suggesting that they avoid argieland for the next 10 years at least!
142 briton (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 07:44 pm Report abuse
And remember,
Without the British,

CFK would not be flying anywhere,
[Would she]

British, simply the best,
Just ask CFK ..lol
.................................
still
Acording the the MOD their are variouse things in the pipe line,

including more R.A.F. fighters, more R.N Ships , and more troops,

ready and waiting, just in case CFK gets a bit upset after the referendum of the century,
some say, she will try and do anything to make her mark,

but at the end of the day,
all we have to worry abt is, the time she stops talking,and takes in breath,
but will she do anything, or she she just all gobbltygook,

time will tell,
still,
as long as the falklands are British, CFK will always be the wannaby,,lol.
143 Pete Bog (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:10 pm Report abuse
Nice cruise down to the South Atlantic by the Royal Navy soon, but not as many tourists on board as the P&O ships-and these passengers will not be intimidated by idiots with headscerves and baseball bats. Hmmm wonder if they fancy a call into BA just to say hello?

Well Argentina keeps going on about the UK militarising the South Atlantic, you lot ought to be careful what you wish for,.

You've got it now.

We're not taklking prices in unarmed yellow helicopters anymore.

And by the way, there will be troops down there who have just been training in your mate's country, Spain.I hope that the major exercise goes ahead, as I am sure that Argentina will take a desperate pop at the oil rigs during referendum time.
I bet our lads just fresh from real fighting in Afghanistan against one of the world's toughest enemies will be juuuuust sh1tt1ng themselves at the prospect of Maximo's Islas Falkalnds brigade rowing over to plant a flag somewhere-I hope we send some Apaches and Tornados down to give the Islanders a really good military tatoo.
144 briton (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
Sadly Argentina deserves everything she is about to receive,

CFK you should be ashamed of your self,
Acting as if you still live in the 18th century,
you would rather see the destruction of your country,
Rather than see the freedom of the Falklands,

And who suffers, your people,
But do you care,
No, you don’t, your rich and powerful, and your people are mainly poor,

still,

The sooner your people wake up, and throw you out the better, for all of us..
145 Think (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
The Brutish Turnip at (144) says....:
“I am sure that Argentina will take a desperate pop at the oil rigs during referendum time.”

I say:
Would any kind Brit please explain to this poor soul that the ONLY oil rig has left the area more than a month ago and is currently approaching the Canary Islands?
146 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
&O cruise line suspends stops in Argentina, confirms calls in the Falklands
Excelent! The brits pirates ,LIARS and imperialist are hurt on the pocket.....
Who cares about visiting MAlvinas....garbage town,totally uninteristing....
147 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
'The bartender of the Frigate breaks the silence: “The act of Cristina was embarrassing”'
www.clarin.com/politica/Fragata_Libertad-Ghana-cantinero_despedido_0_846515532.html

'Britain preparing for new Falklands War?'
english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_13/Britain-preparing-for-new-Falklands-War/

'London is militarizing the Falklands'
hispantv.com/detail/2013/01/13/209297/default
148 briton (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
Who cares about visiting [cruise line ]

Obviously not your leaders,

But is it not true, that it actually hurts the argentine economy,
And thus rebounds on the people.
Tourist is a vital asset to a lot of countries including Argentina,

And once lost, is always hard to get them back,
And the long this goes on, the more shipping will not stop their, and go elsewhere..
149 KFC de Pollo (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 08:51 pm Report abuse
@147 why do you want them so bad then? :P
150 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
150 KFC de Pollo

Malvi doesn't know what he wants. All he knows is that his grown-up family members like him more when he goes all Malvinista like them.

Poor old deadbeats.

Chuckle chuckle.
151 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 09:39 pm Report abuse
151 Joe Bloggs

Poor Malvi, all that pent up rage and nowhere to vent it!!! must be hard to back the wrong horse all the time........

What a clown
152 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 09:59 pm Report abuse
152 toooldtodieyoung

The sad thing is all these deadbeats on here won't be content just to back the wrong horse themselves. They'll indoctrinate their kids and grand kids as well. So generations of bitter and twisted losers will grow up dreaming of getting the islands. A place they've never seen let alone visited. And as you can see by Malvi's post, they don't even think they like the islands. Poor Malvi's forgotten why he wants the islands. He just knows his deadbeat older family members treat him more like a grown up if he says MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS every now and again.

Luckily the majority of Argentines aren't like this.
153 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:13 pm Report abuse
153 Joe Bloggs

How sad is that?? wanting the islands not because they are in some way linked to you or people that you know, wanting them because your teacher at school and your perants tell you that you want them.

I'll bet that the people that wrote that into the constitution don't know why they want the Islands either, they just want them because they want them as well..........

The hope is, like you say “Luckily the majority of Argentines aren't like this” While there is Argentines like Simon68 then there is hope .
154 andy65 (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 10:15 pm Report abuse
@Think ,This Argentine lover Greaseball Think would do well to THINK more clearly before he selectively answers other forum users post and try talking reality of why is dear lover the botox Queen Crissy Cruchner wants to take her country down this path of destruction both financially and politically.

Don't hold your breath waiting for this GREAEBALL THINK

Once again read the title of the video and come to terms why your dream of these fantasy Islands Malvinas will never be anything more for you A FANTASY A DREAM that will become A NIGHTMARE if your beloved CRISSY continues.
155 quetzald (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 12:39 am Report abuse
rt.com/news/britain-war-falklands-argentina-914/
156 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 03:55 am Report abuse
@155quetzald

Thanks, Quetzal

Seems to justify the precautions and tactics of the Brits.
157 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 04:35 am Report abuse
QUETZAl#155: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This is better

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4I9jKLevUE
Poor deluded,bankrupt ex empire,filled with lazy bums...governed by a corrupt conservative..
BTW,Do you need some oil losers???

Which country has the most shale gas reserves outside of the United States and China?

Canada? Nope.

Australia? Wrong again.

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), Argentina ranks third in recoverable shale gas reserves. Argentina has 774 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of technically recoverable shale gas resources, with more than half of that in the Neuquén Basin on the western side of the country.

www.investmentu.com/2011/October/shale-gas-boom-in-argentina.html
AHAHAHAH I am laughing at the demented brits here....Who cares about MAlvinas and the uk? They are irrelevant..

Fundamentally Freund: Britain’s Falkland follies

The result has been periodic outbreaks of saber-rattling and occasional bloodshed, with no immediate end in sight to a dispute that seems as outdated as it is senseless.

I am referring, of course, to the British stranglehold on the Falkland Islands.

January 3 marked 180 years since British and Argentine naval vessels battled it out at sea, with King William IV’s forces emerging triumphant and asserting His Majesty’s control over the area.

In the finest tradition of British imperialism, a governor was quickly appointed, and some 1,800 settlers descended on the Falklands within 20 years, despite howls of protest from the Argentine government.

UNTIL TODAY, Argentina continues to demand the return of what they refer to as Las Malvinas, and the two countries fought a brief but bloody war over the islands in 1982 which left 900 dead.

www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=298992
158 Anglotino (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:50 am Report abuse
I thought the article was about the cruise industry starting to bypass Argentina.

Nice try Malvinero1 but we'll stick to topic. Keep this for an article on shale gas though mate.

So back to discussing the cruise industry preferring the Falklands over Argentina.....
159 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:18 am Report abuse
@157

The Falklands will do well in the short- term with assured tourism from the Cruiseships - good news!

In the long term, the improvements to their berthing facilities will make it easier for those same ships in the future, as well as servicing the tankers that will be coming in just a few years.

A very positive story, indeed !
160 ChrisR (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 10:05 am Report abuse
157 Malvinero1

1) Which country PROBABLY has the most shale gas in the World?: AG.

2) Can these fields be developed with existing technology?: Probably not, we need to develop new techniques to release the gas - none other than the CEO of YPF.

3) Are AG capable of developing the techniques on their own?: NO.

4) Does any other company possess techniques that can extract the gas?: NO.

5) Does Chevron have the ability to develop suitable techniques?: PROBABLY but not for the existing contract price.

6) How long will it be before gas can be recovered?: Longer than TMBO has left before the mass of the population wise up to the fact she is thieving the country blind and she has to run for it.

Understand now?
161 Isolde (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:58 am Report abuse
@157 Malvinero1,
You got someone to write that for you, signor.
Your earlier posts are full of AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHH
And AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
You wrote down to Fundementally Freund,
Some more intelligent person than you completed the post.
Remember Malvi, it should be all your own work or back to the naughty corner with you.
@87 Think,
Your quote has deviated from the original. lt is:-
“The Mills of God turn(some say ”grind”) slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine”.
Get it right, eh?
btw-where & what are these malvinas that you mention?
some lakes in Sweden, maybe?
162 redpoll (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
@157 Malicia 130 years since the Argentine (?) navy battled it out? Is that in Argentine history books too? Cant find any reference to that. Elucidate please. Or are you just telling porkers again?
163 inthegutter (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
Malvinistas: Given that your main claim to the Falklands is that it was illegally annexed by the UK do you think the land forcibly stripped from the Amerindians by Argentina should be returned? Should you return the land seized from Paraguay after the War of the Triple Alliance? If not, then why?
164 quetzald (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
Thanks malvinero You light our way!!!!!!
165 reality check (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
180 years ago, King William IV. What fucking search engine is he using??????????????????????
166 hjarta (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:10 pm Report abuse
Will our so called American friends stop landing their cruise ships in Argentina like P and O have. The Americans seem to want to try and tell us here in Britain what to do so Mr cameron should ask him for this small favour
167 reality check (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:21 pm Report abuse
Obama might give us the time of day, then deny he did it if the time was wrong. Case in point, Libya.
168 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:45 pm Report abuse
@167reality

“ Case in point, Libya.”

My understanding was - US/UK wanted to aid the rebels, but China and Russia prevented them.
Is that not correct?
169 reality check (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:05 am Report abuse
Plausible deniability, love that term. He abandonned his Ambassador and two brave men died trying to protect him. Now he's trying to hide the truth, “We keave no one behind” yeah, we all saw that!
170 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:19 am Report abuse
First verse:
Free Patagonia... free it,
It's not a part of Mar de Mierda,
It's a free independent country,
free of peronism, free of corruption

chorus:
we don't want peron,
we don't want hitler,
we don't want kirchner, that maximo neither,
just give us freedom, oh yeh.
171 quetzald (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 01:48 am Report abuse
hahahaahahahahahahah
Only a child could have invented a song like that .. that stupidity largest..
We don´t want Peron?????? hahahahahaahah
we don't want kirchner, that maximo neither, this is stupid
172 ajoknoblauch (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 02:38 am Report abuse
@166 It's up to private companies to decide whether or not they care to dock in Buenos Aires or any other Argentine port. P&O has clearly decided it's not worth the trouble, and others may or may not follow suit.
173 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 03:21 am Report abuse
@269reality

Sorry, I'm thinking of Syria, not Libya.
My mistake.
I don't know what 'really' happened in Libya.
I can't see the US wanting it to go that way. Was it a gross mis-reading of Intelligence, or something else ?
I suppose this is off-topic.
174 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 07:19 am Report abuse
Lets not forget who we are talking about here, some illegal aliens need to drill and fish all the natural resources to transfer the wealth to UK. If the Brits think they are going to catch a piggy back ride on the infrastructure of tourism, they might have to rethink their strategy. You got to love CFK she has done more for Argentina then any other politician, long live CFK!
www.fihplc.com/index.php?section=0
175 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 09:18 am Report abuse
@174 PH DOOFUS

you'll have to get a real Argentinian to tell you about it one day - you'll never live there.
176 Clyde15 (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
#174
“You got to love CFK she has done Argentina more then any other politician, long live CFK!”
And so say all of us !!!!!
177 CJvR (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
@174 - “she has done more for Argentina then any other politician”

You got that right.
178 Pete Bog (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
@174
So it's good for Argentina to lose her tourist trade then, because of her stupidity?
179 Shed-time (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 11:10 am Report abuse
@178 is there a category of trade that Argentina hasn't lost because of her stupidity?

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