Falkland Islands’ referendum vote blasted unanimously in both Houses of Argentina’s Congress
The Argentine Congress in extraordinary sessions held on Wednesday in both Houses unanimously rejected the Falkland Islands referendum in which the local population overwhelmingly decided to remain as a British Overseas Territory.
The Senate resolution “rejects the vote in the Malvinas by the Islanders” since they are “settlers implanted in the Malvinas Islands”.
The statement said “the referendum distorts the true juridical situation” of the Islands and recalls that UN records indicate that “it excludes any principle of self-determination” in the case.
In stronger terms the Lower House of the Argentine congress “energetically rejects the ballot” because it is a unilateral and illegitimate action, contrary to what is established in the UN resolutions, and thus with no international law consequences.
In a second paragraph it ratifies the position expressed by the Argentine congress in the Ushuaia Declaration regarding rejection of British colonialism in the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and surrounding maritime spaces”.
Among the speeches in the Senate which had a greater impact was that of Senator Damiel Filmus, chairman of the Foreign Affairs committee and belonging to the ruling coalition, who said the (Falklands’) vote was an “exercise of self satisfaction” and quoted a column from The Guardian which stated that “the only thing new we know is that there are three inhabitants in the Islands who do not agree” with British sovereignty.
“The excuse of the 1982 conflict can’t be used to deny negotiations with Argentina”, said Filmus who then warned that the UK plans to project its occupation of the Falklands onto the Antarctica territory, which boils down to “an aggression for the entire region”.
Opposition members both in the Senate and the Lower House supported both motions.
A couple of hours later the Lower House approved a strong declaration.
Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee Guillermo Carmona said that Britain’s attitude “is provocative with much to do with the context since during the last year the Argentine position collected support from South American countries, Caribbean, Africa and G7”.
“The actions from the British government have a clear absurd condition in so far it asks the citizens of a country if they want to continue being part of an Overseas Territory in the South Atlantic”, said Carmona.
However the discussions despite the unanimous spirit were not harmonious when a recess was requested to listen to the words of the new Pope, Jorge Bergoglio from Argentina and which was rejected by the members from Cristina Fernandez majority grouping.
The incident ended in a shouting contest and exchange of coarse language since the request for the recess meant suspending homage ceremony to former president Hugo Chavez.
Finally a statement in support of the new pope was agreed expressing “pride, emotion and satisfaction with the naming of Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio as head of the Catholic Church”.
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Argentine parliament - great substitute for a circus! You couldn't make it up!
Aaaargh no....please. Anything but the strong declaration.
Lol they keep saying that, but in the real reality on the planet called earth, UN states the opposite as it is a universal right off all people. the islanders a people and as a group are classed as peoples.
oh!
Look!
It IS the expansionist bullying neo-colonial neighbour!
at this rate they will get the comfy chair out
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnS49c9KZw8
Lol. Looked like Jan Cheek being inquisitioned by Pope Francis's lot over ownership of Falklands.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tym0MObFpTI
That's funny. The ”excuse“ of a conflict started by argieland. WE ”deny negotiations with Argentina“ because argieland, and particularly the argie ”government“, is replete with cheats, liars and thieves. And they aren't trustworthy either.
”the UK plans to project its occupation of the Falklands onto the Antarctica territory“. Would that be the part called the British Antarctic Territory? The part of Antarctica that argieland tried to steal while the UK was fighting a global war that argieland didn't have the guts to take part in. Especially as its pal Hitler had assured it that the UK was going to lose the war. The war that Germany started. What is it about these addled and ignorant buffoons that makes them hang on to ”positions“ long after ”reason“ has departed? What is it that gets put into their ”food“ and water that destroys any ”brain” that they might once have had?
So it looks like we are going to have to kick them out of Antarctica. Just as we kicked them off the Falklands. When shall we go for it? 2021? Is the clock ticking?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:12 am
Good point. Well made.
Some will undoubtedly be career politicians who most likely think its farcical but have to perpetuate the lie as to do anything else could be bad for their careers. They could only do otherwise if they were very high up the political food chain as to take another stance could stop their progression.
Who's going to be brave enough to speak the truth?
Who cares?
I believe there are 28 Argentine nationals on the Falklands electoral role, so only 10% of Argentinians voted no (assuming it was them).
NO, - NOT THE COMFY CHAIR!!!!!!!!!!!! (dan, dan, daaaaannnnn)
19 lsolde
Exactly GALlamosa,
Who cares?
The referendum. Who would care?
Rejection matter of opinion and UN global public. In their statements have said that they have no legal value.
The sovereignty dispute remains.
The Argentine Congress with unaminidad in all political forces have rejected.
The people of Argentina as a whole has rejected.
See the following link: “Unilateral action illegitimate”
www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-215784-2013-03-14.html
That's it then, we had better give all the islands and Antarctic to the mad woman.
The people of Argentina as a whole can reject whatever they like, but since they don't own or live on the Islands it has absolutely nothing to do with them.
All the Argies believed this because they never got to hear from the Falklanders themselves
Well how things have changed!!! Now both houses of Parliament are debating this ´meaningless referendum´& the whole of Argentina & much of the world now know of the islanders´wishes ..............stroke of genius!!!
Argentina has never owned the island nor has it ever ruled the islands save for a few weeks and a illegal invasion where it also violated UN resolutions (something the UK has never done).
Argentina has zero power and zero influence so feel free to reject some more because your opinion also counts for ZERO!
If you guys learn history the way you did with geography...ooppss estem fotits
I live in the Falklands and would be surprised if the “Falklands 3” were any of our resident Argentinians. They have chosen to integrate into our community, they pull their weight and (with no wish to patronise them) I believe they are well aware of the benefits of living here. I would attribute the 3 no votes to enthusiasm for independence, which most of us feel is a possibility for the future but not for now.
Honoria....RFLMAO
whats funny about that? I've still dont know where these ”las malvinas” place is. The Falklands I know about, but I cannot find anything relating to some mythical Malvinas place on any map.
You just made my day LMAO
No surprises there. I expected nothing less of you.
By the way I was refering to the people in the UK, you people have problems with reading and comprehension don´t you? Read more carefully next time.
Boy this place is a goldmine......
I can see see why our resident Argentines decided to throw their lot in with us.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:19 pm
“... Rejection matter of opinion and UN global public. In their statements have said that they have no legal value...”
The UN has not said anything about “have o legal value.”
What they HAVE said is:
”Note in response to questions about the referendum on the Falklands/Malvinas
New York, 12 March 2013
In response to questions about the referendum on the Falklands/Malvinas, the Spokesperson has the following to say:
“The Secretary-General has taken note of the referendum. He reminds Argentina and the United Kingdom that his good offices remain available if both parties engage.”
Please see: www.un.org/sg/offthecuff/index.asp?nid=2738
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Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:25 pm
¨I remember some time ago when people in the UK thought Las Malvinas were somewhere near...Scotland LMAO.
If you guys learn history the way you did with geography...ooppss estem fotits¨
Man, you need help, seriously.
Apparently not as much as you do.
You posted:
Whats funny about that? HAHAHAHAHA Brits claiming lands that they can't even place on a map and you ask me what's funny?????
You just made my day LMAO.
And here is my response to that:
Claiming, who the hells claiming anything, where have you been, doing bird or something? they have lived there for 9 generations, that's not claiming. Why do they need a map, they only have to look out the window and there it is.
There simple enough for you, Simon!
Check your head first, will you?
Yes nuts
Bet you couldnt count yours and come up with the same answer twice
Particularly like the bit, ”Crude substitute for an arguement.”
Bipolar disorder they call it. Do you have anger issues? Your goat doesn't love you anymore? Your girl ran away with an argie?
Seek some help urgently...and stick to your nick. One person, one nick.
Wish all the best at the nuthouse
What's the matter with you, you have a problem with people who do not agree with your point of view?
The solution is simple, don't post them.
There male you feel better!
Both using blank ammo,
Who cares what they think,
We won’t listen, and they have no say or control over the British,
So soddy offy coffee
.
yep weve heard it all before,
CFK on the other hand ??
How long has the 98 percent white European Argentine population been squatting in the native Indians lands?????
“you people have problems with reading and comprehension don´t you?”
You people?? You people?? You've got serious issues there flower, it's time to get you professional help...............
“Argies claim the land, they have absolutely no desire to control the Brits, the Scots, nor the Welsh”
WOW!! You actually believe those lies you are telling don't you flower?
...........Brainwashed anyone??
SELF-DETERMINATION!
This has consistently been the UK governments position and nothing is going to change.
Of course you care. You care, all of your widdle troll friends care. That's why you're on here now, trying to talk the talk with your widdle nursery school attitude and half informed opinions, not actually thinking for yourself, just regugatating what someone has told you.
Tell you what son:- You start using your brain and then come back to me and we'll talk ok?
“As far as Argentina is concerned they can stay”
I remember the Falklands war. You know, the one in 1982? You were probably still swimming around in your daddy's balls at that time. So I remember exactly what happened to the Islanders when Argentina was last in charge.
Clown
Speaking of balls, could you explain why 3000 islanders 300 miles away are such a devastating threat to the national manhood?
I did have fun LMAO
latest sub,,,
watch it argies .lol.
And most Argentinians are European settlers implanted in Argentina.
So?
“that UN records indicate that “it excludes any principle of self-determination” in the case.
Where does it excluse SD ? In what records? Somebody has yet to point us to these.
”illegitimate action, contrary to what is established in the UN resolutions, ”
The UN resolutions say that Independance should be taken into account, that the negotiations must refer tothe UN charter and that the interests of the population (the resolutions do not mention the interests of the Argentines) must be taken into account. The referendum was correct (it was not fixed -no bribes), and is in the interests of the Islanders (the population). So it cannot break the resolutions.
Try reading the resolutions, Filmus.
“the only thing new we know is that there are three inhabitants in the Islands who do not agree” with British sovereignty.”
Don't hold your breath Clingfilm, how do you know those 3 didn't vote for independence? (They would have to vote no).
“The excuse of the 1982 conflict can’t be used to deny negotiations with Argentina”
Technically it can. The invasion broke resolution 2065.
Also the small matter of unmarked mines, napalm and bullying the islanders would not find favour with the UN.
Try again Clingfilm, and next time actually read what it says in the resolutions and the UN charter, (if you are capable).
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