Thursday, March 28th 2013 - 10:15 UTC

Falklands’ sovereignty belongs to the ‘whole of Latinamerica’ says Uruguay

Foreign minister Luis Almagro said on Wednesday that Malvinas Islands’ sovereignty belongs to the whole of Latinamerica and as part of Latinamerica and the Caribbean, “we will defend the territorial integrity of the continent”.

Minister Almagro and his ‘brother’ Hector Timerman

Speaking with Uruguayan and Venezuelan media following the meeting in New York with UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon in support of Argentina’s claim over the Falklands, Almagro accused Britain of seeking to exploit the Islands' energy resources and called the referendum “dysfunctional,” saying it is not right to cut off part of Argentina through a referendum.

He added that the dispute is “becoming intolerable” for Latin America and for the U.N. itself and demanded a quick solution to the dispute through diplomacy.

“The British occupation of the Malvinas is nothing else but a colonial enclave that is intolerable for Latinamerica and the Caribbean in this time and age”, said Almagro adding that the recent Falklands’ referendum in which Islanders overwhelmingly voted to remain a British Overseas Territory was “absurd and ridiculous”.

Argentine Foreign minister praised Uruguay’s position in the Malvinas issue.

“Uruguay is a true brother in the defence of Argentina’s sovereignty in the Malvinas dispute with the English”, said Timerman who on Tuesday together with his peers from Uruguay, Cuba and Peru met with Ban Ki-Moon at the UN.

Uruguay’s Almagro attended in representation of Mercosur; Cuba’s Bruno Rodriguez for Celac (Community of Latinamerican and Caribbean States) and the Peruvian official, Jose Beraún Aranibar for Unasur, Union of South American Nations.

“There are more than plenty juridical arguments in support of Argentina’s claim over the Malvinas; a claim which is also supported by Mercosur, Celac and Unasur as well as the UN resolutions which the UK is determined in not respecting and complying” said Almagro.

“International law is valid for all members and we must abide by it if we pretend serious legitimate actions in the global scenario”, concluded the Uruguayan minister.

Uruguay as chair of Mercosur is hosting the group’s summit next June when Venezuela is expected to take over for the coming six months. Further statements from Mercosur in support of Argentina’s sovereignty claim are anticipated for next June.

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1 Anbar (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:21 am Report abuse

same people, same sayings, same total lack of progress.

(wasnt this all covered yesterday anyway?)
2 stick up your junta (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:32 am Report abuse
The British occupation of the Malvinas is nothing else but a colonial enclave that is intolerable for Latinamerica and the Caribbean in this time and age”

French Guiana?
3 Steveu (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:38 am Report abuse
Saint Martin/ Sint Maarten....shall we continue?
4 Think (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:43 am Report abuse
First we take les Goddams......
Then we take the Frogs.......*

*(Free after Leonard Cohen)
5 Anbar (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:53 am Report abuse
“Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.”
6 Monkeymagic (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:56 am Report abuse
Argentina is nothing but a Spanish colonial enclave
Brazil is nothing but a Portuguese colonial enclave
Uruguay is nothing but a Spanish colonial enclave
Canada is nothing but a British/French colonial enclave

In fact, the Falklands is the ONLY part of the Americas which ISN'T a colonial enclave, as it was uninhabitted at the time of discovery by the British.
7 screenname (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:56 am Report abuse
'Uruguayan Politician is Argentina's Bitch', is hardly a breaking news headline.

Luis Almagro (an amerindian name?) is in no position to talk about the territorial integrity of South America. The whole of that continent has borders based on an aggressive land grab by Europeans.

Their position is hardly suprising though, given that they are the cultural decendants of Castile, who found the idea of Muslims living in Iberia intolerable.

Latin and American - contradicting terms for anyone claiming to be indigenous to label themselves...and if they are not indigenous, then they are hypocrites
8 Anbar (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:00 am Report abuse
I would not get too derogatory of Uruguay btw - this is merely the public statement of one minister, hardly the feeling of the Nation or, indeed, its Government's official position away from the shine reflecting from Timmerman's pate.

Words for the Argentine masses, not for the real world.
9 Conqueror (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:09 am Report abuse
Very funny. “There are more than plenty juridical arguments in support of Argentina’s claim over the Malvinas; a claim which is also supported by Mercosur, Celac and Unasur as well as the UN resolutions which the UK is determined in not respecting and complying” And for the 5,000th time, what are the juridical arguments that argieland daren't take to the ICJ? mercosur, celac, unasur? Don't care. And we aren't “complying” with non-binding UN resolutions. Nor is there any obligation on us to do so. Argieland is now so desperate. “Everybody that we can get has to say how much they support us.” Joke!
10 screenname (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:13 am Report abuse
Almagro and Timmerman had each others wallet after this picture was taken.

11 Shed-time (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:20 am Report abuse
“There are more than plenty juridical arguments in support of Argentina’s claim over the Malvinas”... but not one juridicial ruling in support of Argentina's claim.

That referendum clearly got Argentina rattled. They now know their arguments are truly furked.
12 Diddles (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:23 am Report abuse
As said by others, what about French Guiana, The Netherlands Antilles, Martinque, not a word......come on challenge the French, the Dutch, and for that matter, what about the Spanish and their two colonial enclaves on the Moroccan coast, Cueta and Melilla....there is clearly a Latin bias against the British.....based upon a deep seated jealousy amogst many Latinos....its silly really when you consider the fact that the British have contributed many positive things in Latin America.

For starters, who brought the railways to South America.....the British....not the Spanish, the Italians or the Portuguese....who introduced football to South America....the British.....who introduced other sports like rugby union, polo and horse racing to South America....the British. For many years, Chileans have regarded themselves as the British of South America...the most businesslike, professional and least corrupt society within Latin America.

Today, many Latin countries would benefit from treating the Falkland Islands as a role model for good governance....with the exception of Chile (Brazil and particularly, Columbia have made some progress in recent times, and perhaps Costa Rica and Panama in Central America), most Latin American countries are still poorly governed and their populations suffer accordingly.But let's not talk about poor governance....Malvinistas and other bigoted Latin fools....just keep sprouting your usual anti-colonial for Uruguay....grow a backbone and stand up to Argentina for a change....if you were smart, you'd seek closer relations with Britain and America, along with Chile and Colombia, and by doing so, you'd be better able to stand up to Argentina.

One thing though, well done again to the two Uruguayan politicians who did show some intestinal fortitude and participated as observers in the Falklands referendum.
13 Shed-time (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:31 am Report abuse
So, in the photo who do we think is the stooper, and who is the stabber? Trimmerman's mouth looks a bit bruised so I'm guessing he 'went sissy'.

@12 Sure, Chili and the Falklands are good role models, but they understand the benefits of ethics and morality.
14 CaptainSilver (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:34 am Report abuse
Reminds me of children chanting in the playground. Tactics of desperation from failed diplomat. It's noticeable that all the trolls have nothing to troll with any more and have slithered back under their rocks. Falklands were clear winners in this round and can look forward to a bright prosperous and peaceful future. Just ignore the Rg know it makes sense.
15 M_of_FI (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:42 am Report abuse
“UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon in support of Argentina’s claim over the Falklands”

Do I really need to say more?
16 Terence Hill (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:49 am Report abuse
Simply stating something is legally invalid is not a sufficiency, you have to qualify it. I haven't yet seen one, let alone “plenty juridical arguments in support of Argentina’s claim”.
Obviously, the referendum was legal as:
1. There is no specific law that Argentina can rely on to nullify it.
2. Argentina by her failure to legally challenge it, has given tacit consent, with her acquiescence.
17 Musky (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:50 am Report abuse
@15 M Of FI
Bollocks. Where did you read that, on a tatoo on your mother's backside?

The minister Almagro is talking rubbish. All these ministers believe they talk for 100s of millions of latin americans and that they all speak with one voice. Public opinion can never be used to overrule international law, if it were not the case, then on pure opinion power alone, we'd want to grab all the countries with fantastic weather (again!).
18 Anbar (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:54 am Report abuse
“Do I really need to say more?”

Well, a link to where he said this would be helpful.


You cant do that? Why not?

Because he didnt actually say it?

19 Faz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:58 am Report abuse
Uruguay should stick to corned beef Do that quite well
20 Anbar (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:02 pm Report abuse
“Uruguay should stick to corned beef Do that quite well”

I guess nobody will point out that Montevideo is twinned with Melilla either...

ho hum, that could be embarassing ;-0
21 Steveu (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:06 pm Report abuse
@20 LMAO!

Usual failure to engage brain and more LatAm double standards!
22 v for victory (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:11 pm Report abuse
It doesn't, It belongs to the people on the Islands, not the immigrants (mostly spainish) that live on the mainland.
23 Islander1 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
Yhink - Dont forget - Uruguay needs its waterways dredging- that comes at a price they need to pay and this is certainly part of it.
Meanwhile of course no problem this end as ships and trade continues to and fro, includinmg Royal Navy visits.
If it keeps you and Timmerman happy - then yes - speak up
24 Escoses Doido (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
Mercopress, what are you playing at?

Posting a photograph of two penises like that.

Children can view this you know.
25 Orbit (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
The FI government need to publish “Argentine Lies Debunked Weekly”. Hell, a daily version would be pretty meaty. Sod that, we need a real-time feed !
26 darragh (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
“International law is valid for all members and we must abide by it if we are to pretend serious legitimate actions in the global scenario”

Oh like Argentina did in 1982.

Sorry, I forgot it wasn't Argentina that invaded the Falkland Islands in 1982 it was the “junta” and wasn't supported by a single Argentine.

You know, I first started looking at these threads because as an Irishman I was interested in modern history (actually studying it at uni) and I have to say that the continual whining, lying and exaggeration by the Argentine government and trolls has pushed me firmly into Britain's (and the Falkland Islanders) corner.

What is it exactly thet Argentina expects to achieve? Is their theory that if they keep acting like children Britain and the FI will get bored and just give up? or what?

If this is the case then they obviosly don't know the Brits.
27 Diddles (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:34 pm Report abuse
Come on Malvinistas and other fellow travellers, speak up.....Spain should surrender Cueta and Melilla; France should surrender French Guiana, Tahita, Martinque and new Caledonia; Netherlands should surrender the Netherlands Antilles and Chile should give up Easter Island and so on.....the so-called Decolonisation list doen't even places like Cueta and Melilla, French Guiana, Easter Island or the Netherlands much for consistency with that UN Committee. It's instances like this that allow for the UN to be held up for ridicule.
28 screenname (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:45 pm Report abuse
@8 Anbar:My comments were aimed at politicians and South Americans with roots in Europe ,that it seems would consider themselves the overlords of Falklanders if it were not for big brother UK having a rather large stick to hit them with if they try anything rough.

Anyone who is mature about this and can apply justice equally to both the Falklanders and South Americans, I have no problem with.

Judging by the look on Timmerman's face in the photo with his 'brother', is he thinking “Oh no! Last night was incest!”

or perhaps, “My Uruguayan friend went to all the bother of wearing a mullet wig in honour of Argentina, I hope he does not realise I'm from the USSR”

or how about, “RESULT! Argentinian's joy at beating the poor exchange rate by getting 2-for-1 offer at New York Specsavers.”
29 keithh (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
Will these poloticians respect the will of the people of Puerto Rico also? Or are they going to ignore their vote (to become a US State) and claim the Islands for all of South America.
Last time I looked at an atlas; they were still closer to the South.
Does that make Spain's decision to cede them to the USA as a colony (along with the Philippines and Guam) illegal?
Take that to the UN then!!!!!
30 Zool (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:59 pm Report abuse
Well at least now we wont feel guilty about Uruguay getting covered in radioactive ash when the nukes fall.
31 Shed-time (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:21 pm Report abuse
@29 Of course they'll respect the wishes of the people of Puerto Rico, because they're only racist towards anyone with 'Anglo' connections. Puerto Ricans consider themselves to be Latin Americans and therefore suffer the same levels of poverty and corruption as their peers, but they don't get completely ignored through discussions of ethnically cleansing their land.
32 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:34 pm Report abuse
Malvinas Islands’ sovereignty belongs to the whole of Latinamerica
No it doesn't see there you go lying again, they just can't stop themselves can they
33 Be serious (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
Hispanics are the best at playing the victim.
34 Simon68 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
“... “There are more than plenty juridical arguments in support of Argentina’s claim over the Malvinas; a claim which is also supported by Mercosur, Celac and Unasur as well as the UN resolutions which the UK is determined in not respecting and complying” said Almagro.”

Dear Don Héctor,

If the above statement by your “brother”, Luis Almagro, is true, WTF don't you take your “claim” to the ICJ??????
35 CaptainSilver (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:02 pm Report abuse
Malvinas Islands' sovereignty belongs to the whole of Latinamerica? Well since the Malvinas don't exist that's not much cop then is it? How can America be Latin? Ah, I remember, it was invaded by paella and spaghetti munching invaders armed with muskets and sabres who slaughtered the population and stole their land! Better watch out unless they try the same thing on our Islands. Still, their navy has sunk, their aircraft get impounded like their few remaining ships and they got soundly thrashed last time they tried it. Still there are quite a few Nazis in the population so better be careful...
36 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:08 pm Report abuse
I bet Uruguay would change its tune if they were offered to assist in moving the oil from the Falklands to around the globe
37 Britworker (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
All this is now just more about anti-British hatred being stirred up by Argentina and some if their cronies, they have lost all credibility. It's so important we keep our dignity and continue to ignore them, they are just despicable people.
38 malicious bloke (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
So, when Argentina invaded the islands in 1982 they raised the flags of every country in latinamerica ?


Didn't think so.
39 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:27 pm Report abuse

We are enemies, do you expect Argentina to talk well about you given you attempted to invade us three times before 1982 to try to deny us self-determination?

And if you think this generation of the 70s is anti-British, get ready when my generation assumes power. We are three times more inimical, but added to that we feel the same about all of Europe, not just you.
40 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:28 pm Report abuse
“Falklands’ sovereignty belongs to the ‘whole of Latinamerica’ says Uruguay”

Hold on a minute I don't think Crissy the botox queen wants that much support
41 Devolverislas (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:44 pm Report abuse
The tide of history is with the return of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas to Argentinian sovereignty. South America, including formerly British Guyana, is now solidly behind Argentina. Ironically, the position of the Falkland Islands in the world is more isolated after the referendum. Tea parties hosted by the British Embassy in Washington are not going to change the neutrality of the Obama Administration, which has called repeatedly for dialogue on sovereignty. The terms of the dispute are set in stone in UN Resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands (1965). The islanders will have no peace until there is a settlement between Argentina and the UK.
42 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:48 pm Report abuse

Our enemy is not those poor island bumpkins, we should let them be. Our enemy is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, their entire population.
43 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
John Troll the 3rd , A 3rd generation product of European immigrants.
44 txiki (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
@41 - what part of UN resolution 2065 says that Britain has to give the sovereignty to Argentina? I don't see it. All it does is recognize that there is a dispute over the sovereignty, and that it needs to be resolved bearing in mind resolution 1514. Of course, 1514 gives all populations the right to choose their own political status as an outcome of decolonisation - The UN is willing to accept independence, integration with a neighbouring country, integration with the colonial metropolitan country or free association with another country, as outcomes from decolonisation.

No hay que devolver nada.
45 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
@John Troll the 3rd So can you tell us all what that stupid whipping boy of the botox queen Hector Timerman achieved on Tuesday in New York?? I am sure the many poor Argentines are getting pissed with your governmant going on these stupid wateful exercises and coming back with sweet f.... all,I mean London, Rome, New York and still nothing where next???
46 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:02 pm Report abuse
London, Rome, New York, Madrid, etc should be inflicted heavy casualties. Lots of death and destruction. You need to learn your lesson once and for all.
47 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
@ 42 Snotty “When mygeneration assumes power” or usurps what little will be left? Butyou will probablyhave your particuular lights turned off long before then
48 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:10 pm Report abuse

Notice how all the enemies have left is ridiculous hyperbole. I can't recall the last time a genuine argument was formulated against my thesis.
49 Baxter (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
Between the remarks made ministers of Foreign Affairs and Defence one feels that they represent the feelings of all Uruguayans . In which case the UK should pull out its Embassy and sell both Embassy building and residence . Between them we will make a handsome profit . Uruguay can now live happily ever after with Argentina, Venezuela and Cuba . Let us not waste our money in a country which hates us . Though we did play a not small part in its independence .
50 CaptainSilver (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
#40 Wrong! He didn't say that he said “Malvinas sovereignty”. So, because the Malvinas do not exist... He is buggered! The Rgs can spout nonsense and whinge as much as they like, it won't get them diddly squat. Resolutions, statements with failed nations, anti British /English/European rhetoric is just ignored by all normal responsible and major trading nations. If these idiots want to continue marginalizing themselves and damaging their international trading prospects and wealth, that's their lookout. With winter approaching the lack of $ and credit things will get worse and worse for the average Rg. By the time they realise that their present stance is untenable it will be too late, condemning them to years of austerity and sorrow.
51 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:20 pm Report abuse

You don't have the dignity to even do that in Argentina. I don't know what we have to do to show that we hate you.
52 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
Dog troll the turd talks about dignity after his rant @ 46......... Classic what a stupid arse
53 hipolyte (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
hate is weight...
54 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:58 pm Report abuse

What's wrong with wanting you Europeans to suffer? Don't you want that of us Argentines? Of course you do. Don't pretend otherwise.
55 Faz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:03 pm Report abuse
This Troll is arse. Rolling Stones v popular in Arg wich has no music. Most stinking hole villas, dangerous too. Man cuddle nother man, in Arg its normal behavor. Nancys and pussie everwher
56 trenchtoast (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:04 pm Report abuse
They make a nice couple, I'm very happy for them.
57 Anbar (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:04 pm Report abuse
Devolverislas = new name for DoverOverDoverThinko then eh?
58 Think (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:08 pm Report abuse

Malvinas sovereignty belongs to the whole of Latinamerica says Uruguay.....

Guyane's sovereignty belongs to the whole of Latinamerica says Latinamerica.....

First we take les Goddams......
Then we take the Frogs.....*

*(Free after Leonard Cohen)
59 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:09 pm Report abuse
Oh, dear they hate us! Now I am definitely going to lose sleep over that. Comes about -50 on the, I could not give a flying ferk index!
60 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:13 pm Report abuse

Then I don't see why you have a problem here.
61 kelperabout (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
The Falklands belong to the Latin Americas.. What a load of old tripe. So now Argentina has persuaded all latten Americans that the Falkland belong to all of them. So it never did belong to Argentina I guess so argument is flawed and should be thrown out. The next thing we will be hearing is that The Falklands and Latin America belong to the rest of the world.

Where do they get these people from cuckoo land no doubt.
62 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:26 pm Report abuse

Well I'll go to the bottom of our garden! I could have swore I just typed that?

Sarcasm not a concept you are familiar with?
63 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
@54 i personally don't want to see anyone suffer except your stupid GOVERMENT certainly not decent Argentinians who just want to live a decent existence without being shafted. Still you voted TMBOA in so you,ll have to live with the fallout or vote her and her bunch of bullies out of power. Then perhaps we can put this whole sorry saga behind us and the Falkland Islands can get on with thier lives without the threat of invasion, constant bullying and rhetoric and realise the potential of thier beautiful islands. As well as getting stinking rich of course which is what really irks you lot in the long run isn't it? :)
64 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:00 pm Report abuse
Nice article..
The Falklands’ first commercial oil discovery will make the islands in the South Atlantic rich, bringing the British territory of 2,563 people US$10.5-billion in tax revenue over 25 years.

“There’s strong potential for more reservoirs to be discovered and developed,” said Ian McLelland, head of oil and gas at Edison Investment Research in London. “In time, it’s not unreasonable to think that there will be significantly larger discoveries than Sea Lion.”

“As far as many Falkland Islanders are concerned, using some of the money for defense would be something popular,” Luxton said

Does Argentina have a wealth fund?
65 golfcronie (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:03 pm Report abuse
YOU have a thesis. Pray elucidate, I have not seen your thesis, please elaborate.
66 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
So what's your thesis dog turd the 3rd? Can't wait for this lol
67 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:10 pm Report abuse
Snotty What thesis. A balanksheet of paperis a sure gamma minus marking
You live in Canada. You know why the Mounties havent picked you up yet for subversive activities? They are laughing at you and letyou to continue with your tripe posts n this site as you do an awful lot of damage to the supposed Argentine cause on the Falkands
68 ChrisR (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:14 pm Report abuse
49 Baxter

I am a Brit and have lived in Uruguay for almost two years now. It is a great country with lovely people.

It is clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the people of Uruguay and their ‘support’ for AR, because as far as I can tell it is non-existent. Do not believe everything you see in the papers.

Almagro is an ex UY Ambassador to AR and has quite obviously been turned. You only have to look at the wanabe homos in the photo to see that.

The Defence Minister of all 7,000 officers and men of the UY standing 'army' is the very best friend of Pepe, the soon to be gone President: himself a commie and gangster and even though he is no friend of TMBOA he is too weak to improve the position of his own country.

All of my Uruguayan friends and that is quite a few now, despair at the antics of Pepe and his wife and cannot wait for him to be gone.

There is evidence that the forthcoming president is already ‘sitting’ with Pepe to make sure as far as possible things are done correctly.

As for selling the Embassy that is counterproductive to the stated UK diplomatic aims of building up relationships and business in SA.
69 Steveu (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:39 pm Report abuse
The whole thing sounds like a euphemism for ethnic cleansing against the “Anglo” presence. Let's call a spade a spade and call it what it is.

How many countries on the C24 decolonisation list have English as their first language? How many speak Spanish?
70 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
Good post Chris.
71 Shed-time (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:47 pm Report abuse
@68 so which one is the stooper and which one is the stabber? I'm guessing that Uruguay takes it, given that's their role in South America to take it from an Argie and look like one loves it.
72 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse

While I do not support it in the Falklands, I do support ethnically cleansing all traces of Anglos in South America (except the Guyanas). Everywhere else, you have no business here.
73 Conqueror (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:55 pm Report abuse
@39 You're funny. Is this your latest bit of “history”? Are you going to clarify who you think is “us”? Let's go for what we know. 1806 & 1807. British forces mounted raids into the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata. Notice that. A SPANISH colony. During the Napoleonic Wars. When Spain was allied to France. Perfectly justified. And your “country” only started seeking independence in 1811. And only managed a declaration of independence in 1816. Anybody with a mind would say that the British raids took place 10 and 9 years before you were a “country”. The “usual” suggestion is that the next “invasion” took place in 1833. Was that in Buenos Aires? Or was it the British territory of the Falkland Islands on which your “country” was trespassing? Territory that had been discovered by Britain in 1690 and formally claimed in 1765. That's 51 years before your “country” existed. Or are you thinking of the Anglo-French blockade that started in 1845? Why don't you mention the French? What about the French blockade between 1838 and 1840? But wasn't Rosas your dictator at the time? Didn't he start the first “Conquest of the Desert” genocide? By 1845, wasn't Rosas occupying Uruguayan territory? Weren't the hostilities started by the Italian, Garibaldi? Wasn't Rosas seeking to control trade with cities upstream for his own benefit? All of these events are recorded. And they don't match your contention. So shall we say that you are “mistaken”, or that you are lying?
@41 Unforunately, non-binding resolution 2065 is no longer “valid”. Overtaken by the 1982 Falklands War started, and lost, by argieland.
@42 Xenophobe.
@46 Could you list the 70 or 80 most important argie cities/towns? Those with the largest populations? We have approximately 60 nuclear missiles. With multiple independent warheads. So if we “land” the first 40 missiles on the biggest, the remaining 20 can do two targets each!
@51 Try suicide bombers! You can probably kill 4 or 5 million argies.
@54 Not suffer. Die!
74 MagnusMaster (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:55 pm Report abuse
@26 “What is it exactly thet Argentina expects to achieve? Is their theory that if they keep acting like children Britain and the FI will get bored and just give up? or what?”

The Argentinian government has to complain or face political suicide. Remember that everyone in Argentina believes that Britain took the islands from Argentina by invasion in 1833 as the absolute truth, and wants them back. Of course everyone thinks that what CFK is doing is idiotic, but they won´t ever let the government stop doing anything they can to get the islands.
75 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:00 pm Report abuse

I have mentioned the French everytime in the 1845 crisis, and for that I also wish them suffering.

All of you inferior Europeans deserve centuries of suffering. And it has begun.
76 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
@John Troll the 3rd, Just think about it your Granny must have loved screwing a Spanish Pirate though or was it one of the many Nazi war criminals Argentina sheltered that so pleasured your Granny??
77 agent999 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
75 John Troll the 3rd

More of the same old rubbish

Poor child - we will troll for you
78 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:12 pm Report abuse
I admit, I have become a racist against Europeans. I can no longer hold the real hatred I hold inside. This is not a joke.

I have the right to hate and be racist however.
79 Clyde15 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
I am glad to hear it. If that is the case then we must be doing something right. Do we care ? Not in the slightest !
80 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:19 pm Report abuse

Yes you did. Reading these and other forums unveiled my eyes about the hellish people you are. Not even remotely compassionate or moral like us.
81 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
78. Your generation would give thier left arm to live legally anywhere in the EU UK USA. You have no idea how many requests I get for help trying to escape that horrible place on a monthly basis.
82 Monkeymagic (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:20 pm Report abuse

So hate Europeans...and should the continent of Europe be worried that a teenage Argentine virgin with personal hygiene issues hates us? Not really, it's quite funny.

You have a little ego problem don't you Nostril? Somehow you think you are important on this forum, and people listen to your it because nobody ever listens to you in real life?

Is it because everyone sees you as a little joke....poor Nostril..and his pathetic hatred.

Still not answered me from the other threads though Nostril. this hatred you have for's a simple question.

When, at sometime in the future, you finally have sex (urghhhhhh hideous, but there must be some wretched creature somewhere who could tolerate your clammy hands all over her), and maybe one day you have offspring.....

would you deny that offspring life-saving medical treatment if that treatment was invented/developed in Europe?

Yes or No Nossie....?? Hypocrite or sick fekker...which are you?
83 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:21 pm Report abuse

That's why the Argentine embassies all over Europe in Madrid, Rome, Munich, Paris, London, Miami people are lining up to get out of there (want pictures?), and that's why the embassies in Argentina of those countries have no lines whatsoever.

I'm sure pictures and reality are lying, and you are telling the truth lol.

That's why I'm not racist against Americans. You are too mentally atrophied to be hated. I just pitty americans.
84 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
Monkeymagic, Old Nossie can hate as much as he likes but it won't stop the European blood flowing through his slimy body he's probably related to some evil Nazi war criminal Argentina sheltered.
85 golfcronie (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
John Troll The 3Rd
Still waiting for your thesis. I am quaking with anticipation. In fact I would suggest that most of the bloggers on here are waiting with bated breath for your thesis. I hope you do not submit it the educational authorities in Argentina as to date you have a fail.
86 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:27 pm Report abuse
83. Stupid boy, nobody from the EU UK USA needs to apply for a visa to go to Argentina so why would there be lines?
Its probably Rgs lined up to get new passports that can't be made outside of Argentina any longer due to a paper shortage.

You are seriously retarded.

Go take a pic of the USA embassy for their 1pm line of the Rgs trying to come here. We had to expand staff to try to accommodate all of them trying to flee.
Luckily we turn most of them down
I love watching them cry about it.
87 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:29 pm Report abuse

I have said before I do not date Argentine women, they are too into independence and respect.

I would never touch a European (hairy-armed french, beaked-nosed italian, toothless-pizza faced english, terminator-jawed german, or squatting-tenor voiced spaniard)

So your premise is moot.
88 Orbit (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
@78 True, each to your own, although it would be a shame if you developed those views by reading these pages ... as we all know they are not representative of Argentine or non-Argentine public opinion. I mean how many Argentine Sussie's can there be?
89 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:33 pm Report abuse

Too late. I think the internet is representative of people's views. They say things they feel and would never say in person for fear of ridicule or physical harm.
90 ernest shackleton (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
“Territorial integrity is the principle under international law that nation-states should not attempt to promote secessionist movements or to promote border changes in other nation-states.”

The idea of a continent (as opposed to a nation state) demanding TI is totally contradictory. A continent is a purely geographical term - it already has TI or it wouldn't be a continent in the first place..! The FI is part of the South American continent, just as the Canary Islands are part of the African continent. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. If it did then Europe has much more right to demand back Eastern Thrace (part of Turkey).

“Territorial integrity” is a cynical device used by aggressively nationalistic totalitarian countries, like the Soviet Union and China, to preserve their militaristic empires and threaten dire punishment to any ethnic minority that might want to secede.
91 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:35 pm Report abuse

It's the argument your dictator Cameron uses to scare the Scotts into remaining lieges of London. “Territorial integrity”.
92 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
@John Troll the 3rd Talking of smelly hairy women take a look of Alica Castros daughter and her camel toe in London recently Alicia or her daughter have no place in a clasasy city like London they are both out of place!/2013/02/an-embarrassing-ambassador-alicia.html
93 Monkeymagic (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:35 pm Report abuse

I see, you don't like women, was that your choice, or were they all repulsed by your physical and social repugness?

Are you homosexual or celibate?

Just for the purpose of my premise, is there anyone you care about or cares about you, or does everyone find you repulsive? A parent perhaps or a sibling...someone who has retained some affection albeit tinged with pity and regret? Anyone you could apply the premise to?

Or perhaps even yourself, clearly you think of yourself as someone relevant, certainly you over-value your worthless opinion, so apply the premise there perhaps..

Would you deny yourself European medication or treatment or would you prefer death....

I am sure the majority of the readers of these boards are hoping the latter...

best regards
94 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
Please post the pics of the Argentinian Embassy's with long lines.
I am so curious.
Methinks you are caught in yet another lie
Did I say just earlier it must be really frustrating to be wrong over and over again.
Over and over
95 Orbit (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
@80 - the compassionate argument doesn't stand up am afraid.
96 The Cestrian (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
Looks like The Botox Queen is having a bit of a meltdown on Twitter:

Clearly rattled. LOL.
97 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:41 pm Report abuse

We are compassionate only to other human beings, e.g. other Argentines.


No one cares what youthinks.


She is not pretty but not ugly, and probably that's the best looking woman in the UK at the time of her presence there.


I don't need medication. I never get sick.
98 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
96. You can tell by the tone of the Rgs posters here they know all is lost, Falklands, NY Courts, IMP, Economy.

I hear Drs are striking because they have no supplies, they worried about hygiene, no syringes, gloves, meds...getting ugly.

The hospitals were pretty gross during the sugar high economy of the last few years I can't imagine how awful they are now
99 Clyde15 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
Does the word compassion have a different meaning in Argentina ?
Let's see. Your govt. tries to threaten and bully a small island community because they covet their land. YOUR posters continually insult them on this forum and belittle them at every opportunity. Your rent-a thug crowds threaten cruise ship passengers trying to disembark at BA and Ushaia and you have the cheek to call yourselves compassionate ! As to moral ?
That is just a huge joke.
As for hating all Europeans, does that stop east of the Urals.
Are all people of European descent come into your hate list,and do 3 month old babies figure in your list ?
It sounds as if you are a fan of uncle Adolph and his views on the untermensch.
When you look in a mirror in the morning, do you smugly chant“ mirror mirror on the wall, who is the purest of them all” ME!! Grow up and get some experience of life rather than live in your imperfect academic fantasy world.
100 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:47 pm Report abuse

It includes everyone, all ages all geographies. One can't make exceptions or it encourages weakness. Once you decide to become a racist, you are all in. No middle ground.
101 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:48 pm Report abuse
97. You care and yet again you were caught in a lie because you have never left your slum so you don't know what it takes to travel anywhere.

I think its funny
102 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:49 pm Report abuse

Why would I ever want to leave? To experience mass shootings in person? That's the only think you have to offer. You are an awful country with pitiful people oozing in McD grease.
103 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:53 pm Report abuse
I have no idea you'd have to ask your 250k companeros in Miami that question.
I know I left because of the violence and the fact absolutely nothing works in that country.
absolutely nothing

Funny in Arg working at McDs is considered a pretty good job. Nice USA company where you are sure to get your check. Did they fire you or not call you back for an interview?
104 agent999 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:54 pm Report abuse
John Troll the 3rd

More of the same old, same old pure drivel

Poor child - we will troll for you
105 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:57 pm Report abuse
Nosey who ever you are?

Did you mention morals like ours, could swear I read you writing that?

Morals, now let's see, any of my grand parents, parents, brother, sisters, cousins gone to sleep at night, worrying that the door would be kicked in and they would disappear.

Any of them walked down a street without looking behind them for the green Ford Falcon? That would snatch them off the street and they would disappear.

Huh, nope, do not think so. Mind you if some of the people you gave sanctuary to, had their way, things could have been different!

Morals, don.'t make me laugh!
106 St.John (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
@ 12 Diddles

“For starters, who brought the railways to South America.....the British ...” add cold stores (frigorificos) which made export of meat feasible, and much else.

That is the problem - some Argentinos hate their benefactors because they were exactly that - benefactors.

People, in #15 M_of_FI is being sarcastic, writing “UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon in support of Argentina’s claim over the Falklands”.
107 yankeeboy (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
106. Even really dumb dogs know not to bite the hand that feeds you.

Are they dumber than dogs?
108 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
109 St.John (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
Not dogs.

It is a human trait to hate benefactors, because that shows you could not manage on your own.
110 andy65 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
@John Troll the 3rd, Are you taking the piss? Castros daughter looks dirty take a read of the blog who is Argentine also but obviously educated just wondering if Alicia knows who the father is do you know if she's married or was this the product of the mile high club
111 Orbit (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:20 pm Report abuse
@96 - good one. Looks like the FI are going to see off another Argentine “government”.
112 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
Dog turd the 3rd Take a good look around you in your comfy bolthole in Cananda, ever notice how most of the people look european, that's probably because most of them descended from european stock, hence they speak English or French, FFS your boyfriend probably is of european decendant. In fact your probably half european. What a numpty you are.
@108 110 Sussie do one the street and some drugs awaits you
113 El Capitan (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:34 pm
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114 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:35 pm
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115 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
@114 115 Sussie do one the street and some drugs awaits you
116 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:41 pm
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117 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:47 pm Report abuse
@117 Sussie do one the street and some drugs awaits you
118 El Capitan (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
stop blaming women!
119 Steve-33-uk (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
'‘The Falklands belong to Argentina – even a three-year-old knows that’: Argentina president Cristina Kirchner provokes Britain with latest tweet
She claimed that a child would find British ownership 'unsustainable'
Kirchner also suggested that 'the world' wanted dialogue between countries - 99.8% of islanders recently voted that they wished to remain British territory - But Kirchner has refused to accept vote that was discussed by UN this week - Argentine officials demanded talks with UK on sovereignty of islands

'Cristina Kirchner's extraordinary Twitter rant as she lashes out over Falklands'

'Barack Obama called ‘a hypocrite and a coward’ over Falklands betrayal – BBC audience applauds'

'Boudou out of “Falkland Islands” tour with the Mancha de Rolando - The Vice President and his favorite rock band to visit Tierra del Fuego for the vigil of April 2. Free recitals and La Campora campaign.'

'Hackers attack British video game company Malvinas by Argentina - Dattatec , who developed a map for Counter Strike on the Islands , reported having been the target of a cyber attack their servers from United Kingdom' ;)
120 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
Hows your Peruvian faher, Sussie? Still in a loving relationship?
121 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:54 pm
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122 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
Common guys leave Sussie alone!

Me I defended her on here.

Someone said she was not fit to f××× a pig, I said she was.

Damn, I suppose I now have to apologise to the pig. Sorry Mr Pig.
123 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
@118Sussie I wouldn't touch you with a barge pole don't know what I'd catch. In answer to your other question I have a really good life, nice three bed detached house, two and a half bathrooms as you say in the US, a nice car in the drive, a good job that lets me use the computer whilst I'm nightshift to wind you up and a very very good index linked pension care of the Royal Navy, thank you for asking. Now get yourself streetside theres a good girl.
124 briton (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
Mr tinman,
All mouth and no trousers,

They talk, they brag, they threaten , they abuse,
But they have no guts to back it up,
Cowards and losers,


The desperate do desperate things, do they not.
125 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
126 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:15 pm Report abuse
@126 yes you must be tired out all night selling your ???????????????
127 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
Rc you have the wrong gender. Our sussie is just a worn out old sow
128 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
@ 120 most three year olds have more sense than TMBOA, crikey even Sussie can manage the iq of a four year old. CFK is really losing the plot now, April the 2nd will show the world how deranged they are when they celebrate attacking the Falkland Islands (even though it wasn't thier fault but the Junta) and losing a war. All countries celebrate LOSING a war they started don't they?. It's like Germany celebrating invading Poland in 39. Unbelievable
129 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:33 pm
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130 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
128 127 as an ex -serviceman I find your remarks amusing !!!
131 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
@130 as a matelot even I have my limits, there are no beer goggles thick enough or detergent strong enough
132 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
Hey, as an ex serviceman, I am pissed off you missed me out.

Ps. Sally do not count!
133 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
@131 oh that's right sussie claims to have done service in the USN................or was that service the USN
134 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
Oh dear Sussie. An ex serviceman! How many servicemen did you serve? Or is your real name Monica Lewinsky? You cant get any higher up than that if thats true
135 fill00000 (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:00 pm
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136 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
@136 wow sussie that's good coming from you, well done, time for your meds now monica
137 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
Hey Slatzzz.
Famous signal, “England expects!”. Sorry mate it's your duty!

Let's not forget, regulations concerning self inflicted wounds, you are are not allowed to cut it off afterwards.

Damn, am I glad the coin was tails.
138 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
@137 oh bloody hell, can i have four bags and two crates just in case. Can't see Sussie being any less than a four bagger
139 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:39 pm Report abuse
Never did more than a two bagger, respect!
140 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
Shes a body bagger an does her stuff in the mortuary
141 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:45 pm Report abuse
any port in a storm.....need to be the perfect storm. A quick trip to sick bay to be issued some ibrufen and entinox afterwards, followed by a DTS to expel any nasty memories. To be honest can I just stick to my sock. :) Oh look Gollam's on film 4
142 redpoll (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
On the caption Timerman looks like a piece of dried haddock Alamagro likea dog with two tails
As a previousc ommentator has said Mr Al has probaby nicked the tinmans wallet
In for a nasty surprise when he finds its only got Argentine pesos in it
143 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:15 pm
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144 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
Argentina may ban all European flagged ships (EU members), if it does not change it's farming policy. Great news.
145 Steve-33-uk (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
Looking at this articles photo again, it looks like tinman and his new bum-chum Almagro were photographed as they left a late night bar after consuming 8 pints and 10 jagermeisters each. That's probably when Almagro made his ridiculous comments about the FI belonging to 'Latin America!

Its worth revisiting what Latin America means/is, according to Wikipedia Latin America is...

'Latin America (Spanish: América Latina or Latinoamérica; Portuguese: América Latina; French: Amérique latine, Dutch: Latijns-Amerika) is a region of the Americas where Romance languages (i.e., those derived from Latin) – particularly Spanish and Portuguese, and variably French – are primarily spoken.'

After reading a few article about this it seems, Latin-America derived its name from (Britain, USA, Canada) Anglo nations and simply means non Anglo-Saxon America. The FI speak English and the majority of people who live their are of British decent so the Falklands Islands are NOT Latin America...

'Falkland Islands ~ an archipelago located in the South Atlantic Ocean'

Almagro had one too many?
146 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:54 pm Report abuse
Go ahead mate ban all EU ships, we would love it, not arrrfff!!!!!!
147 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
@144 great news indeed, lets hope they also include all EU and Bermuda flagged cruise liners, Bermuda being a BOT and all eh? Another nail goes in care of TMBOA
148 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
Oh please, please, please, please, ban All EU flagged ships, man that would be a result.
149 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
Don't forget all those ship registered in MALTA a member of the EU and THE COMMONWEALTH, Malta currently the biggest register of merchant and cruise ship in europe overtaking greece, which of course is in the EU so crack on losers, then you have the Bahamas (commonwealth), Trinidad and Tobago (commonwealth) ban em all i say good luck with that.
150 reality check (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:32 pm Report abuse
Oh come on Slatzzz, he did say they would allow in ships bringing them agricultural products. That's food to you and me, wow! What an innovative concept, a blockade against all ships except the nice ones that bring you food!

Shit, where do they educate these dickheads?
151 El capitano (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:36 pm Report abuse
Drake he's in his hammock an' a thousand miles away,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?)
Slung atween the round shot in Nombre Dios Bay,
An' dreamin' arl the time O' Plymouth Hoe.
Yarnder lumes the Island, yarnder lie the ships,
Wi' sailor lads a-dancing' heel-an'-toe,
An' the shore-lights flashin', an' the night-tide dashin',
He sees et arl so plainly as he saw et long ago.

Drake he was a Devon man, an' ruled the Devon seas,
(Capten, art tha' sleepin' there below?)
Roving' tho' his death fell, he went wi' heart at ease,
A' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe.
“Take my drum to England, hang et by the shore,
Strike et when your powder's runnin' low;
If the Dons sight Devon, I'll quit the port o' Heaven,
An' drum them up the Channel as we drumm'd them long ago.”

Drake he's in his hammock till the great Armadas come,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?)
Slung atween the round shot, listenin' for the drum,
An' dreamin arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe.
Call him on the deep sea, call him up the Sound,
Call him when ye sail to meet the foe;
Where the old trade's plyin' an' the old flag flyin'
They shall find him ware an' wakin', as they found him long ago!

Sir Francis Drake, daring naval captain, early circumnavigator of the globe and (to some) pirate, was buried at sea in a lead coffin, off Portobelo, Panama.

A state drum, painted with the arms of Sir Francis Drake, is preserved among other relics at Buckland Abbey, the stately home of the Drake family in Devon. Legend has it that in a time of national crisis for Britain, this drum will beat and Drake (or his spirit) will return to save his country, as he saved them with his victory over the Spanish Armada in 1588.

Drake's legendary bravura and cool is captured in the story about the way he greeted the arrival of Spain's formidable Armada, far more powerful than Drake's forces. When warned of the Spanish fleet's appearance, Drake was playing bowls on Plymouth Hoe. Instead of rushing off
152 slattzzz (#) Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:45 pm Report abuse
@150 some facts for dog troll the turd
■The EU is Argentina's second export market, after Brazil, China and US. Argentina exports primarily agricultural products and raw materials to the EU.
■The EU exports manufactured goods, such as machinery, transport equipment and chemicals to Argentina.
■The EU is the biggest foreign investor in Argentina, accounting for about half of the foreign direct investments in Argentina. EU investment stocks were worth € 49.5 billion in 2011 and cover important areas such as telecoms, automotive or energy.
Now ban all EU registered ships from rgenweener and heyho YOUR FOOKED and before you say it do you think for one minute EU countries would allow other registered ships to transport materials to rgenweener when they have blatantly picked a fight you are sorely mistaken, if this story has any creditability I will be most surprised even TMBOA wouldn't be that stupid would she? Simple answer would be ban all imports from rgenweener to EU, more than one way to skin a moggy, then watch TMBOA go into meltdown
153 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:01 am Report abuse
They can always count on North Korea.
154 redpoll (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:03 am Report abuse
TMBOA is that stupid.And her little still born hiding under the Queens skirt in Canada (which queen?) is her lapdog
Snotty the Royal Canadan Mounted Police are coming to serve you with an extradiion order when you are no further use to them
155 slattzzz (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:25 am Report abuse
I hope they do it (doubt it though) because for all the bluster an shite from Uruguay and the rest of them they will drop rgenweener like a hot brick. They know it. We know it and secretly so does dog turd the 3rd. I state once again we are argueing with a twat that lives in Canada has no pride no morals and is not worth toilet paper ie rg pesos
156 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:37 am Report abuse
Shit mate, most of them on here live anywhere else other than Argentina, it's fucking priceless! Our country is so great, we it love so much so, that we choose not to live there. It's magnificent in our minds, unfortunately our wallets and safety comes first!!!!!!!!!

They just ignore the fact that the rest of us laugh at their utter hypo racy!
157 slattzzz (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 01:01 am Report abuse
Correct RC, dog turd the third must break his heart every time he opens his wallet and sees a picture of her majesty looking back at him. One word COWARD. They talk about thier boys in the Falklands I say they haven't got a fuckin clue, to me they are the lowest of the low and disgust me by pretending to have actually been there. I have the utmost respect for the rg's conscripts that actuallly fought but pieces of shit that know fuck all piss me off and are disrespectful to those who have a bit of bottle. I'd actually be interested to hear the views from argentine people who actually fought in the war and know there perspective not some keyboard warriors who live in Scandinavia and Canada
158 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 01:35 am Report abuse
They are Vauxhall, we were first, now we are premier. Silly sods, should have stayed home, saved themselves a world of grief!

Not in our league mate!
159 Mortiboy (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 01:47 am Report abuse
I was in my local this evening in UK's west country, and several guys said that, even in their fifties, that if they were given a decent rifle like an SLR or or an SA80, they would fight Argentina if they invaded the Falklands again.

98% wishing to remain with the UK, may not represent a principle to CFK and HT, but in the UK it does.

What is going to drag the CFK régime down first? The US courts over Argentina's debt default or more hopeless mullarkey about the Falklands?
160 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:24 am Report abuse
SLR fired a 7.62 round, big heavy round, 20 rounds to a Mag. Average infantry soldier carried 6 too 8 mags. SLR meas, self loading rifle, a semi automatic rifle, one press of the trigger one round, no automatic fire. Derived from the Belgian FN, exactly the same rifle only automatic. Squeeze the trigger and it fires until you remove your finger from the trigger. Sounds good, gut you need a lot of ammo and unless you're strong, 7 out of 10 of your rounds are for the birds. Big heavy round no movie shit here, hide behind 18' of brick it will go ithrough it and take your arm off.

SA 80 as was, fires a smaller 5.56 round, 30 rounds to a mag, unlike his colleague in the Falklands, today's infantryman can carry 5 the ammunition for the same weight of the 7.65. The rifle is both automatic and semi automatic, though trained infantrymen only use automatic fire, when they close with the enemy in the final phase of an assault.

The 7.62 was a heavy ballistic round, it blew it's through flesh. The 5.56 is an aerodynamic round, it tumbles though flesh and does more damage.

Nice, isn't it?
161 Cristina Fernandez (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:39 am Report abuse
Unadulterated Racism. Plain & Simple. If the Falkland Islanders were spanish speaking things would look diffferent?
162 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:46 am Report abuse
Yeah, shabby and dirty!
163 Turnip Britons (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:08 am
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164 redpoll (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:37 am Report abuse
@ 163 Go away Sussie No clients panting at your door? Not surpised They might catch something other than Sussie
165 Elsa Martinez (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:52 am
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166 brit abroad (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 05:31 am Report abuse
No it doesnt belong to the whole of SA, as is quite plain to see.

Currently I believe the language/culture/flag happen to be all british! And there is absolutley nothing the whole of SA can do about it! It will be the british and Islanders decision to give up on the islands and no one elses!

Weep my little inbred RG whores, weep, as that happens to be FACT!!
167 fill00000 (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 06:05 am Report abuse
164 hampster balls
You appear to be an ex squaddie ( probably ex RPC ) with very little going on between your ears, one of lifes losers that just sucks of other people, doooooooooo, go get your daily handjob from your mummy
168 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:50 am Report abuse
Nope, your mummy Sussie, change from a fiver too! Pounds that, is not pesos, well stocked up on Andrex :-)

Do you mean off? Typo I suppose? Know what I mean, jerk of?

Whoops, hate it when that happens!
169 lsolde (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:25 am Report abuse
@160 reality check,
Yes, the SLR does pack a wallop.
l have fired them also & love them but they do get too heavy for me after a while.
l would have liked a bipod to hold the barrel up when firing prone, but of course that would just add to the weight when carrying the darling of a thing.
Haven't fired an SA80 yet.
ln New Guinea l had a chinese SKS assault rifle & a Brno .22.
Love the smell of gun oil!
170 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:58 am Report abuse
My late father was detached as a PSI to his TA Battalion, I first fired the SLR when I was 8 years old.

On a Sunday once a month, dad would empty the armoury and lay out all the weapons on the floor of the drill hall, him, mum and us kids would field strip and clean them all.

That was in the 1960's, I loved and was proud of my dad, just as I love and am proud of all the guys and girls today.

May they keep safe and return to the ones who love them, soon be over!
171 Shed-time (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 10:03 am Report abuse
So who was the stooper?
172 ChrisR (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 11:50 am Report abuse
160 reality check

The tumbling bit was and is a fallacy after the yanks shortened the twist rate in their barrels.

The SS109 NATO round (5.56 ball) used by the Brits and other NATO armies does not tumble in a SA80. The round is puny enough as it is without the extra energy loss of tumbling on the way to the target.

The 0.223 Remington is the (almost) direct equivalent and the NATO round was developed from it but with a longer bullet holding area (neck) for the heavier military bullet. This gives problems when firing 5.56 in 0.223 rifles. I prefer RG 5.56 cases and always had to trim back the neck to fit the chamber of my vermin and fox rifle to eliminate the possibility of excess throat erosion (the rifle, not me :o) ).

It must be remembered that the military top brass do not want the enemy killed in the normal course of warfare. Wounded combatants take up extra resources, so the 5.56 fits straight in.
173 Anbar (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:57 pm Report abuse
“My late father was detached as a PSI to his TA Battalion, I first fired the SLR when I was 8 years old.”

lol - did they have to peg you into the ground to stop the recoil throwing you backwards?

And how was your shoulder afterwards?


the SLR was a beast of a rifle, personally i hated it over the SA80 in so far as the SA80 was lighter, you could carry more ammo and, more importantly for me, I could hit stuff with it!
174 Baxter (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
69 ChrisR Apologies for late reply . So I know nothing about Uruguay ? Pray tell me how many Uruguayans have openly come out to ask their Government to cease stupid attacks against the UK . So far only El Pais has condemned Mujica and company . The rest silence which means agreement . The real problem is that the Government thinks that it will earn “ brownie ” points attacking the UK . They are wasting their time .
175 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:16 pm Report abuse

Why do you think you are being frozen to death, and your cattle.

Why do you think you are being gripped by a disastrous economic meltdown.

Why do you think you have rising poverty and unemployment.

Why do you think you are suffering terrorist attacks from within (Breivik, ETA, IRA), and out (Al Qaeda).

God is mad at you.

Repent, you evils.
176 inthegutter (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
#175 And yet despite all those things Europe is an infinitely better place than South America:

More wealth and importantly a fairer distribution of wealth. Much better health indicators. Much lower crime. Better infrastructure.
177 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:44 pm Report abuse

Argentina is much better than South America too, and than Europe. Sure a bit less wealthy, but it more than makes up in environment, culture, family, and open nature.
178 reality check (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
Standing in a firing pit with it resting on a sand bag and dad next me.

Never hit a bloody thing though!
179 Troy Tempest (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
@177 teen TT

don't forget that there is a Havanna on every corner, as well!

go there, drink your sweet-milk and forget the approaching storm
180 Steve-33-uk (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
'Controversy in Tierra del Fuego for the Falklands
The governor justified the charges for purchases in the islands; Cristina chair the act of April 2'

'Granovsky: Falklands conflict is no longer an Argentine, but regional - The theme of the Malvinas is not a conflict of Argentina, but a regional conflict. Each of the agencies that coordinated with the Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman presentation this week before Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, has its own matrix.'

'Almagro calls on Ban Ki-moon reactivate mission of good offices for negotiations Malvinas - The foreign minister, Luis Almagro, reactivate the mission called “good offices” of the United Nations Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon, for the resumption of negotiations between Argentina and Britain over the Falkland Islands.'

More Brainwashing???
'Canal Encuentro prepares a special grid on the Falklands War
Meeting Channel will offer a special program on Tuesday, April 2, which includes chapters in the series “Thinking Malvinas”, “History of country houses. Argentina twentieth century”, “Owed Stories IV”, “Malvinas, history of theft” and “Film and Falkland, 30 years of war”, upon completion of 31 years of the Falklands War.'

'Inaugurate a NOE MURAL ON FALKLAND Quilmes ~ With the slogan “A 180 years of the usurpation of the Malvinas Islands. At 30 years of war. Memory, justice and sovereignty”, the project was presented last year as part of the Days of “History, memory, and communication.”,9bbbf8587a2bd310VgnCLD2000000dc6eb0
181 yankeeboy (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
177. Spoken by someone who's only contact with the outside world is through a computer screen.
Complete loser
Just like Think.
182 agent999 (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
John Troll the 3rd

Argentina :-
Teachers still on strike
Unemployment increasing
Housing and property down
Oil shortages, power outages, polluted rivers
Soy-bean and wheat harvests down - bad weather
Economic chaos

Inflation keeps on rising
$ exchange rate keeps rising

and the list goes on.

Don't worry poor boy - we will troll for you !
183 Brit Bob (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
Dear Hector and Co,

UN resolution 2065 made in 1965 was made void by Argentina's decision to settle its sovereignty dispute with the UK by its unlawful invasion in 1982. Asking the UK to honour 2065 is like Hitler asking Chamberlain to honour the 1938 Munich agreement in 1939 after he had invaded Poland. Hence, there is no requirement for anyone in the UK government to sit down and discuss the sovereignty of the Falklands.

Also, the Falkland islanders do have the right to self-detemination under the UN Charter and General Assembly resolution 1514(XV) which states, 'All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.' Unfortunately for Argentina, this RIGHT IS NOT QUALIFIED AND ATTEMPTS TO QUALIFY IT WITHIN THE UN HAVE BEEN REJECTED.

184 ChrisR (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 05:08 pm Report abuse
174 Baxter

Thank you for the apology.

I think the “The rest silence which means agreement” is erroneous and means nothing of the kind.

I only read the electronic versions of the papers and, for a while, contributed to a government blog site with constructively critical posts. This was fine until the Pluna affair and the moderator did not like what I said (which was completely truthful) and they chucked me off and cancelled my details!

The Uruguayo are a very laid back people until they get worked up. They will get worked up for the elections and that will be the end of it.
185 silly britons (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 06:05 pm
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186 Gordo1 (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
It seems to me that the Cuban delegate for CELAC, Bruno Rodríguez, can hardly be talking for all the Commonwealth Members of CELAC or even the French and Dutch territories.
187 El capitano (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
Haw haw cant make this shit up...!!
188 Anbar (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 07:13 pm Report abuse
“”God is mad at you.

Repent, you evils.“”

farkinL resorting to religious jibes now? that is SERIOUSLY desperate ;-0


technically i live below the European Poverty Line because i cannot afford one foreign holiday a year and my TV is under 42 inches in screen size... only own 1 car (even if its new) and have fewer bedrooms in the house than people who live there.

poor me eh?

On the plus side we aint going to run out of LNG this year (unlike Argentina)... also on the plus side i can get USD$ whenever i like, dont need to explain to anybody why or where I am going on holiday, have free health care and employ a trio of Argentines who are just grateful to be outside of Argentina, even if they do have to post money back home every month to help their families get through day-to-day hardships... like finding a food store with fully stocked shelves that they can afford.

I guess they are religious, I never asked, so they could repent - presumably. Me? I am an atheist, so not only couldn't I repent, but I dont think that talking to 'Mr Invisible-in-the-sky-Person' is going to help out with the Nation's economic problems.

Good luck to those who do...but I wont be holding my breath. ;-0

(Its a bit like begging “Mr-Invisible-lives-in-the-Sky-Persons Personal PR-Rep-in-the-real-world” aka The Pope, to 'get the Falklands back': seemed a good idea at the time, but turned out to be a total flop ( It appears that once Argentines leave Argentina they gain the ability to tell their president to Foxtrot Oscar, and use every opportunity they can to do just that)
189 Liliana (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:24 pm
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190 briton (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
Mr tinman and CFK have found another supporter to their claim,
Rodrigo’s mustaphalaugh, an ex-Cuban Ecuadorian, rose seller,
Who swears it were brits who destroyed his rose bush, when they invaded argentina on a secret mission in 1982,
The roses imported from Uruguay, but grown in Venezuela from seeds grown in Bolivia,
And sent via Colombia,

States he demands compensation,
And as his roses are Latin-American in origin,
This represents a latim problem,

I just want my roses back,
[Asked] how he knew they were brits,
And looking at tinman for advice,
Stated, why you have to get technical all the time,
Then was escorted back to the asylum.

So they say.

191 Liliana (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:53 pm
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192 briton (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
you mean?????????
Rodrigo’s mustaphalaugh ??????????
is actualy

YOU ???????????????
poor lilly no roses
193 golfcronie (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
Nice to see the Argentinian intelligencia back on this forum. Such intelligence you must have been educated in BA
194 Orbit (#) Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
Timerman, multiple choice for you ... please pick a word or expression for your strategy (with thanks to Roget):

failure; nonsuccess, nonfulfillment; dead failure, successlessness; brutum fulmen; labor in vain; no go; inefficacy; inefficaciousness; vain attempt, ineffectual attempt, abortive attempt, abortive efforts; flash in the pan, frustration; slip 'twixt cup and lip? not succeed; make vain efforts; do in vain, labor in vain, toil in vain; flunk; lose one's labor, take nothing by one's motion; bring to naught, make nothing of; roll the stones of Sisyphus; lose ground; fall short of ;miss, miss one's aim, miss the mark, miss one's footing; slip up, trip, stumble; make a slip, blunder, make a mess of, make a botch of; botch it, go up like a rocket and come down like the stick, reckon without one's host; get the wrong pig by the tail, get the wrong sow by the ear; limp, halt, hobble, titubate; fall, tumble; lose one's balance; fall to the ground, fall between two stools; flounder, falter, stick in the mud, run aground, split upon a rock; run one's head against a stone wall, knock one's head against a stone wall, dash one's head against a stone wall; break one's back; break down, sink, drown, founder, have the ground cut from under one; get into trouble, get into a mess, get into a scrape; come to grief; go to the wall, go to the dogs, go to pot; lick the dust, bite the dust; be defeated; have the worst of it, lose the day, come off second best, lose; fall a prey to; not have a leg to stand on, come to nothing, end in smoke; fall to the ground, fall through, fall dead, fall flat; slip through one's fingers; hang fire, miss fire

And my favourite ...

“lame and impotent conclusion” [Othello]
195 Big Bad John (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:10 am
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196 stick up your junta (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:33 am Report abuse
Look who is talking about “intellegence”...= the bloody rubbish english people

Take this three n six and go out and buy yourself a scratch card of “intelligence,” before posting on here
197 Clyde15 (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:40 am Report abuse
I have asked time and time again, why do you stutter when you post-- UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUJAJAJA ?
The vowel U is typed 22 times followed by a Germanic JA three times. To an English speaker this means an incoherent stutter or cry of pain followed by YES YES YES. The effect is that it shows that the writer has serious mental problems.
Your other diatribe has not been worded to your advantage. “intellegence”...= the bloody rubbish english people
A person conversant in English would take this to mean that the English are intelligent which begs the question if they are bloody rubbish and intelligent, how far down the scale does that put you. ? Somewhere slightly higher than an amoeba ?
198 Conqueror (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 01:10 pm Report abuse
@75 You lie!
@78 Feel free. We have the right to kill you! YOU, personally.
@87 Shame for you. Working at an international airport has benefits! All the argentine women I've “come” across have been only too happy to get their knees up beside their ears and wide apart. Some have even complained that they are not that “deep”. Watch out for them. They walk bandy-legged now. Must be something to do with the floppy pencils of argie “men”. And the girls have good “suction” as well. Argentine women obviously “need” real men. None to be found in argieland. Too busy “stabbing” each other. But, for us, when the Aerolineas flight landed, it was “ploughing time”! Nothing better than a desperate argentine slag.
@102 Strange how you tried, on another thread, to suggest that you were/are a “proper” American with, if I recall, the comment that “you” somehow bailed Britain out in WW2. Only to have it pointed that “you” were, effectively, brainless cannon fodder. I remember my father mentioning that “Americans” could only think of 3 things. Gum, ice-cream and comics. “South” America was, of course, mostly cowardly. But, back then, Uruguay, or at least one Uruguayan, had balls and integrity. Shame they've lost both!
@122 Please explain. How could a cow fxxx a pig?
@144 I agree. Argieland starves or goes even more mad as it consumes its own produce! What could be better? Oh, I know, we could mix your usual pigswill with faeces. Bet you'd love that!
@159 Would you have any “spare” rifles? Please? I want to mount an argie head on my wall. I believe they can sound like a drum.
@177 “open nature”. Oh, good. Straight in with the bayonet. In the guts. Then the upward rip to the throat. Argie guts on the ground. Dog food!
199 asd.88 (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 02:58 pm
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200 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:01 pm Report abuse

Yes... happy times in Europe as the Euros here depict are so evident in their leader's faces!
201 darragh (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:08 pm Report abuse

I'm Irish and I'm English speaking so keep your useless racist paranoia to yourself you peurile piece of filth.
202 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:10 pm Report abuse

Racism against Europeans in Argentina is growing by exponential figures. Get used to it.
203 darragh (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
but the vast majority of you are Europeans or of European descent so you're being racist against yourselves - what a bunch of morons!!!
204 redpoll (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
Darragh Our Snotty prides himself on his linguistic abilities so perhaps you could insult him Irish next time?
205 Clyde15 (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:05 pm Report abuse
Sorry, but I don't speak or read third world languages or comprehend your miserable attempts at ungrammatical English. I presume you speak a sort of bastardised Spanish which would be scorned in educated circles, in which, obviously you are barred from frequenting.
Not only that, you don't appear too know WHO you are.
I was replying to 195. Who are you ? It looks like as if you are in the mid stages of dementia as you can't remember in what name you posted last time.
Also. I speak English but I am Scottish. I am quite happy to read and speak the most popular language in the world. You should try it sometime. It would probably raise you out of the gutter where you reside.
206 golfcronie (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
You bloody rubbish Castellano speaking ARSE!
207 Joe Bloggs (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
Well I could die of boredom waiting for the Malvinistas to actually attempt a move towards getting their hands on the islands.

In the meantime. I found the photo with this story quite amusing when I saw it last week.

Caption competition!

Minister Almagro (to his colleagues): Look at this pissed fool. He can't even stand up.

Tin Man: It's okay for you. You don't have to go back and face that mad cow of a fucking boss of mine.
208 briton (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
why must you be shown to be childish,

are all argie trolls uneducated like you 209

you lost, so get over it,
and stop throwing your dolly out of your pram.
209 Sussie,US (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:26 pm
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210 briton (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
mmm just because you say it,
does not meen you earn it, or that you are an american,

after all we could say we earned one million pounts abd we are canadian,
would you belive it,
as for 209, we think someone at merco press is playing with the replies.
211 Joe Bloggs (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
209 Sussie

USD45,000, and you're boasting about that? LMAO.
212 fill00000 (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:45 pm
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213 briton (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
but how do you know they are , sad,
when they do it ??
214 Sussie,US (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:58 pm
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215 ChrisR (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:11 pm
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216 Pirat-Hunter (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
Poor brits sooner or later they will run out of friends, and more and more people will push for a national nuclear defense program to keep the thieves from stealing natural resources from natives. I think this people should be hunted down and sent home.
217 Clyde15 (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:57 pm Report abuse
Like you !!!
218 lsolde (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:05 pm Report abuse
Alex has raised his ugly head again!
Like a snake arising from a woodpile.
219 axel arg (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:17 pm
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220 Monty69 (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:36 pm Report abuse
219 axel arg

Why don't you just give it a rest, you boring boring person.
You continue to spout the same tedious drivel, unsupported by any evidence whatsoever, and we're all sick to death of it.
This isn't about what the UK or Argentina wants. It's about us, the Falkland Islanders, and our right to live unmolested under the government of our choosing. You have never provided a shred of evidence that the UN doesn't recognise our right not to be subjugated.
This isn't propaganda. And your easy dismisal of us is a perfect illustration of everything that's wrong with you, and your government, and your ludicrous 200 year old tantrum.
What's necessary is for you to wonder what you would do with a population that really don't want you, with a society, economy, legal and political system that has been nearly two centuries in the making.
Actually, I think I know what you would do with us. There are precedents, and you don't need to look too far back to find them.
221 axel arg (#) Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:58 pm Report abuse
For being honest, i feel so frustrated every time i see that people who have such a decadent thought answer my comments, especially when i see that some of them recur to the horrible things that happened in arg. in the past, like you did in your comment, in order to compare them with the actual context, or to speculate about what might happen in the future, it shows how mediocre those people are. I have always expected to have a serious debate, but i realize it's not easy.
I have never been interested in persuading absoluty anybody in this forum, what i just want to do, is to give my opinion, and to tell what is omitted by both governments, however wether you or anybody else take what i say, is irrelevant for me, because everybody have right to think whatever they want, but there s nothing more important than the facts.
Accept them or not, the facts show that self determination has never been applied for this case, in fact, i recommended you and many others to get into the website of the u. n., and you'll see that there is not any resolution which says: application of the right to self determination for the population from the malvinas-falkland islands. Anyway, beyond this fact, i have never denied that perhaps that right is applicable for the people from the islands, but because of the u. n's posture, i have always thought that the application of self determination for this case is hightly arguable.
222 Monty69 (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:18 am Report abuse
221 axel arg
The UN's posture, and you will find this in every press release from the C24, is that there are 16 territories, including the Falkland Islands, yet to exercise their right to self determination and become decolonised.
There is no resolution that specifically applies the right to self determination to the Falkland Islands; there is no resolution applying that right to any of the other territories either. I have looked on the website of the UN, and that is what it says. It doesn't need to pass a resolution saying that the Falkland Islanders have the same rights as any other non-self- governing territory.
Don't give me all that stuff about a 'serious debate'. No-one can have a serious debate with you because you ignore the 'facts' if they don't support your position. All you ever do is say the same thing, over and over again.
I'll give you this advice for free; don't pin all your hopes on something the UN said fifty years ago. It's a different world now. The Secretary General of the UN said as much, quite recently.
223 AlanR (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:39 am
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224 Musky (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:34 am Report abuse
@19 axel arg
Argentina is untrustworthy. When it lost the ICJ case over the Beagle Channel Islands after promising to abide by the outcome, it sent in its army to acquire them by force. War was oververted by Intervention of Pope John Paul II.
225 Clyde15 (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:02 am Report abuse
WHO reads your comments?
Only the bloody rubbish english people!
By your own words you must be english as you have read his comments and are replying.
Really Sussie you are getting confused , drugs or just plain stupid. Every time you post something ,under a different name , you make exactly the the same comments.
Argentine is anti-British, do we care ? Not really.
To be equated with people like you would be a serious insult.
226 Shed-time (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:51 am Report abuse
@219 biased unnamed professor from low grade university is still biased. She's a product of the same garbage in garbage out educational system that you are teaching in and probably Aligns their beliefs with all argentines that the islands should be ethnically cleansed as they contain no Latinos, therefore no one worth considering.

Axel your fascist views make normal people nauseous. Your lack of citations make you foolsome.
227 lsolde (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:15 am Report abuse
Axel spouting lies again.
Not too much changed then.
Axel, for the umteenth time, you have NO RIGHTS here.
This is NOT Argentine land.
Stop telling lies about what the UN is supposed to have said.
Self-determination DOES apply to us, Axel.
Just go far away, you tedious & mediocre person.
228 briton (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:24 am Report abuse
agreed ..
229 fill00000 (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
230 Don Gutierrez (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 06:51 pm
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231 briton (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:11 pm Report abuse
Héctor Marcos Timerman (born December 16, 1953) is an Argentine journalist, sociologist, political and human rights activist [human rights, laugh laugh ]

He was named editor-in-chief of La Tarde in 1976, and steered the daily in support of the newly installed dictatorship.-- in 1981, he co-founded Americas Watch, the western hemisphere chapter of Human Rights Watch. He later served in the board of directors of the Fund for Free Expression
[two faced hypercrit or what,
In 2012, he expressed that Prince William's RAF search and rescue uniform during his service on the Falkland Islands was “that of a conqueror”.[5]
In 2013 Timerman walked away from a member of the Falkland Islands parliament and refused to accept a letter
Hector Marcos Timerman
The hypercrit who champions free speech , human rights , and self determination,

Then disgustingly refuses all 3 to the Falkland’s islanders.
CFK will never ever get the Falkland’s, her governments words are never to be trusted, and any promises, , agreements , or contracts, would be broken the first chance they got.

Great Britain, the country you can trust..

232 Clyde15 (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:51 pm Report abuse
I was replying to the crap posted by #223-guess what. That piece of garbage was removed by MercoPress and I had nothing to do with it.
And who are you to make bad comments about the UK and The Falklands ? Actually, which name do you post in mostly.
Isn't it amazing the number of Argies who suddenly appear and then disappear on this forum only to pop up again uttering the same old tripe, with the same spelling and grammar mistakes, pretending to be a new poster.
I will bad mouth Argentina until they give up the ridiculous notion that the Falklands belong to them and until you lot of posters stop behaving with the manners of a troop of adolescent baboons. Does that answer your question ?
As to the rest of South America refusing to do business with the Falklands that remains to be seen. When Argentina implodes once again, there will be a sigh of relief from its neighbours.
The Falklanders will still be there getting on with life and attracting new settlers and business.
233 RogerO (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:24 pm
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234 Shed-time (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:40 pm Report abuse
@233 I think you'll find it was the argentines that turned negotiations into a military conflict, not the British.

Get your facts right.
235 golfcronie (#) Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
All “ Comment removed by editor” seem to be Argie bloggers, any reason for that or can you lot not argue your corner sensibly. Anyway you ( Argies can argue into you are blue in the face ) The FALKLANDS will remain a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY until the FALKLANDERS decide otherwise. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? NUMTIE, TOODLEPIP
236 briton (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 12:16 am Report abuse
they never learn,
they cant learn,
thus they will always be
237 R0gerO (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:06 am
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238 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 04:57 am Report abuse
@237 Sussie

Laughing at you.
239 Clyde15 (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:49 am Report abuse
Obviously annoy you Sussie !!!!!!!
240 lsolde (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:34 am Report abuse
your mother smelled of elderberries
& l fart in your general direction.
241 golfcronie (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:13 am Report abuse
I very interesting statement. See you can make statements on Mercopress without being removed by the editor. Not difficult is it, or perhaps it is, having been educated in BA. Don't expect YOU to UNDERSTAND THIS though.
242 Conqueror (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:48 am Report abuse
@240 Isolde, Was it you that identified the argentine approach to “life” because I've forgotten the term?
243 Anbar (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 11:41 am Report abuse
“”“For being honest, i feel so frustrated every time i see that people who have such a decadent thought answer my comments, especially when i see that some of them recur to the horrible things that happened in arg. in the past, like you did in your comment, in order to compare them with the actual context, or to speculate about what might happen in the future, it shows how mediocre those people are. I have always expected to have a serious debate, but i realize it's not easy.”“”

i think you misunderstand the meaning of debate.

You “debate” as all the argentine malvos do: you repeat state propaganda and claim it as fact.

that isnt debate: its regurgitation.
244 Conqueror (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
@243 I don't think you understand “axel”. By his own statements, he is a “teacher”. Therefore, he is amongst the lowest of the argie low. In order to be an argie “teacher” you have to be essentially unemployable. “Teacher” equates to “benefits claimant”. But it also neatly avoids having to “declare” a correct unemployment figure. Most argie “teachers” would be hard put to explain why 1 + 1 equals 2. But there's more. They are part of the argie government indoctrination programme. They operate the regular compulsory government brainwashing sessions. So what credibility does this member of the argie government “mind-warp” gestapo actually have? Track him (?) back through the articles. He's supposed to be a “teacher”. Has his “English” improved? Of course not. He doesn't have that much education or intelligence. He still relies on the government-supplied script. He isn't even funny anymore. Just ignore him. At least, I think it's a “him”. Could “it” be female, a transexual, a hermaphodite, an androgyne?
245 Liberty12 (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
Clyde: Why are you on line so much? Another goldbricker of the UK welfare state? Who says Argentines will implode or that Lat Am will be happy ? Certainly the USA will not be happy-Argenitna owes them lots of money. Why would anyone be happy to see any country implode-- unless of course they are depraved or stupid. Remember Argentina is a major trading partner of Lat Am, USA and the UK. Brits get their meat supply from Argentina ; without them you starve-you will not be able to afford meat-good bye to McDonalds of UK. The links between the British middle class and Argentina are too strong to be broken.
246 briton (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
you live in cuckoo land.

CLYDE is as entitled to be here, as you are.
247 axel arg (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
It was obvious that you both were going to give me such decadent answers. If i were somebody who doesn't have any critic posture like you are, i just would take into account what our official history says about this conflict, and what our politicians express before the international forums. However, you already know what i think about these two issues.
On the other hand, you don't need to believe what i say, just search in the news archive from this website, what the president from the d. c. said twice in 9 months, about the reaosns why self determination is not applicable for this case, the last time he refered to this case, was at a few days before the referendum. If you prefer to invalid what he said, because the concept that he expressed doesn't coincid with what you want to hear, sorry, but neather your lack of intellectual honesty, nor your low level of debate will change the legal situation of this conflict.
Anyway, shed time is right when he says that i should date my arguments, in my comment 219, i said i had an interview with an ex professor of public international right, but in my next comments i'm going to start to type some paragraphes of different authors who i included in my investigation, in order to support what i say.
248 slattzzz (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
poor sussie everytime she post's her crap under 10+ different names it gets removed must be really annoying still leaves her more time to get her massive arse streetside. Do our American cousins on here notice an unnatural dark period of time now and again , well thats when she goes streeetside, full eclipse of the moon due to arse
249 lsolde (#) Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
@242 Conqueror,
Can you be more specific? Not sure what you mean.
@247 Axel,
Go away, you lying,tedious & mediocre little man.
250 Clyde15 (#) Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:50 pm Report abuse
#245 Why are you on line so much?“
Because I am running a daily program to copy 100,000 colour slides and negatives to my computer. As I have to hang around waiting on them processing, I keep my email running and watch what is happening in the posts.
”Another goldbricker of the UK welfare state?“
Depends on your point of view. I retired from the UK Civil Service at the mandatory age of 60 after working for 41 years.
I received my state pension at the age of 65 - hardly goldbricking.
”Why would anyone be happy to see any country implode-- unless of course they are depraved or stupid. “
Have you actually read what many of your Argentinian poster have written ? They all wish the UK serious harm.
MercoPress have had to remove 22 in this forum alone because they were highly offensive .
As to Argentina imploding, I think that with their current attitude and behaviour, there is a very good chance of it happening. I personally do not wish any Argentinian harm and if they gave up this continual ”we demand“ and ”world wide concern and support“ for las Malvinas, I would not bother reading MercoPress again.
As to trade with Argentina, your country keeps calling for boycotts of UK shipping and goods.
I was unaware that we got any meat from Argentina.
In all the shops and supermarkets where we shop, the beef is almost 100% Scotch with some Irish. The last time I saw Argentinian beef was in about 1952.
I personally would not be unhappy if McDonalds closed down. I have never eaten there.
”The links between the British middle class and Argentina are too strong to be broken”
Tell that to your government as they are the ones hell-bent on breaking it..
251 axel arg (#) Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
Some of the books i used for my investigations are:
Las islas Malvinas y el derecho internacional, by Enrique Ferrer Vieyra.
Segunda cronología anotada sobre la cuestion Malvinas (Falkland islands), by Enrique Ferrer Vieyra.
In my next comments i can type some paragraphes that in included in my investgations, which belong to different athors who investigated about this question.
252 ChrisR (#) Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
251 axel arg

Try “The Case Of Argentina” by Carlos Escude and learn the truth from an Argentine.
253 axel arg (#) Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:39 pm Report abuse
Carlos escudé is a very serious and reliable politic analist, i often listen to him when i see him on tv, if i see him talking about this conflict, then i'll hear on what he thinks.
254 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 03rd, 2013 - 05:16 pm Report abuse

Good article.
255 candalone (#) Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
As an Uruguayan, I'm very ashamed of the disgusting words of Almagro and the stupid position of my government. It's not representative of the feeling that the well informed part of Uruguayan population has about Malvinas (as we'll always call Falkland in Spanish, no matter what islanders say. Sorry)

Only ignorant people and decadent ultra left-wingers could support argie position.

Remember the anagram of the Spanish demonym “argentino”? In Spanish it's “ignorante”.
Do you need a translation for the anagram?
256 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 04th, 2013 - 03:04 am Report abuse

Thank you for your honest post.

You are confirming what most of us believe, I think - these Uruguaysn politicos do NOT speak for the people of Uruguay. They have their own agenda.
Interesting that Pepe said nothing, himself.
257 John III (Pope) (#) Apr 04th, 2013 - 09:18 am Report abuse
But Almagro does speak for all Uruguayans. He was appointed by President Mujica, who was democratically elected, to speak for all Uruguayans on matters of foreign policy.

I think that we can safely assume that caalone did not vote for Mujica though.
258 candalone (#) Apr 04th, 2013 - 01:34 pm Report abuse
No. You are absolutely wrong. This is not a matter of left or right, of who voted Mujica or not. It's a matter of information and sensibility. So you can't assume nothing about things you ignore. For example, the normal point of view of uruguayan or chilean people about argie “reclamations”.

As I wrote before, Almagro words does not represent the majority voice of the people in Uruguay. But you can be sure, people does not vote thinking in Malvinas affairs. Nowhere but Argentina (and not always).

You said that Almagro speaks for all Uruguayans, etc. Half of the population did not vote Mujica. However, in both halves you can find people supporting, rejecting or ignoring argie reclamations.

But the point remains that Almagro words and official positions are not welcomed. In fact, most of the people feel disgusted here with this kind of disrepectful and insensitive words supporting argie aggressive claims. (@255 Pepe said nothing maybe but I'm pretty sure he thinks more or less the same than Almagro)

@256 again, in what parallel universe do you live? I don't know where your home is but it's astounding you believe your government or even your own elected representatives (including those you voted on purpose) always speak for you, your family, friends or neighbours. Or the whole nation.
259 John III (Pope) (#) Apr 05th, 2013 - 06:56 am Report abuse
The Uruguayan Secretary is appointed by the democratically elected president to speak for all Uruguayans on matters of foreign policy. That's the job description. So he does speak for Uruguay and all Uruguayans - including you!

If you do not like what he says then you should have elected a different president.
260 candalone (#) Apr 05th, 2013 - 12:13 pm Report abuse
@259 Funny comment, but it's a fallacy in the end. You know exactly what I mean.
261 John III (Pope) (#) Apr 06th, 2013 - 05:11 am Report abuse
As a matter of fact I have no idea what you mean. Are you saying that Luis Almagro is not the foreign minister of Uruguay?
262 candalone (#) Apr 06th, 2013 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
I'm saying that if you plan to give lessons in democracy and representativeness, first try to remember (or to learn most probably) that Cuba or North Korea are examples of countries where you can say what you said.
On the contrary, in democratic countries you are free to feel and say aloud that your government, including your foreign minister, does not speak for you and for most of your countrymen. And in this case, declarations about Falkland, it's just plain obvious in Chilean and Uruguayan societies.

Enough said.

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