Last Americas Summit without Cuba, agree Argentina and Brazil
Argentina and Brazil Foreign Affairs ministers said in Sao Paulo both countries are committed that the next Summit of the Americas to be held in April in Colombia is the last without the participation of Cuba.
“This has to be the last summit in which Cuba does not participate”, said Argentine minister Hector Timerman, standing next to Brazil’s Antonio Patriota. The presence of Cuba is necessary so that “finally we have a Summit of the Americas”
Patriota recalled that at the previous summit then President Lula da Silva had openly expressed the support and need for Cuba to attend the meeting.
The Brazilian minister said he would be visiting Argentina ‘soon’ and announced more frequent meetings of deputy ministers to continue “intensifying the bilateral cooperation agenda”.
Patriota described the ministerial meeting as eminently ‘political’ during which there was a review of bilateral, regional and global issues.
The first summit of the Americas took place in Miami in 1994 with the attendance of the 34 active members from the Organization of American States from which Cuba was suspended in 1962. The suspension was lifted in 2009, but the Cuban government has not initiated the reincorporation process and has said it has no intentions of doing so.
The US government has openly expressed its refusal to accept Cuba at Cartagena de Indias, where the summit is taking place next April, since Havana does not comply with the 2001 democratic principles of the charter approved that year.
The two ministers also expressed concern about the “possible presence of nuclear weapons in the South Atlantic area”.
Timerman, quoted by a release from the Argentine Foreign Affairs ministry said that South America is a region “free of nuclear weapons” and warned about the United Kingdom’s increasing militarization of the South Atlantic region.
He repeated that the UK government has neither confirmed nor denied the presence of nuclear weapons in the area and reaffirmed that bringing nuclear weapons in the region would be in direct contradiction with the Tlatelolco Treaty, which looks to keep Latin America free of nuclear weapons.
Finally Patriota repeated that Brazil will continue to support Argentina in its sovereignty claim over the Falkland Islands.
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Any well educated politician would know that the UK would not confirm nor deny this, as it defeats the purpose of having the deterent.
GOD!!!!!!! You RG's are really really f'in stupid! mind you know one listens to timerman anyway !!!
A proven to be belligerent nation making demands. How quaint.
Britain's military objective is clear“” to maintain military bases control over maritime routes,and control over the national assets of the region that prey on it will“”
and also the permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like someting from the colonial past.
Argentina or Mar Mierda isn't worth thinking about in any political context. End of story.
Otherwise it's a bit silly.
Do the Russians or the Americans advise Argentina of the locations of their sea borne nuclear deterrents? ....and does Argentina demand to know?
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The funny part is that the posts are more sane than some of the real humans on here.
Timerman, quoted by a release from the Argentine Foreign Affairs ministry said that South America is a region “free of nuclear weapons” and warned about the United Kingdom’s increasing militarization of the South Atlantic region.
”He repeated that the UK government has neither confirmed nor denied the presence of nuclear weapons in the area and reaffirmed that bringing nuclear weapons in the region would be in direct contradiction with the Tlatelolco Treaty, which looks to keep Latin America free of nuclear weapons.“ Proof, feckwit. Where is the proof?”
@4 “Britain's military objective is clear to maintain military bases control over appropriate maritime routes, and control over the national assets of the British Overseas Territories and deny the aspirations of rogue countries that prey on them and also the permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like a responsible nation.”
@8 & 10. Thanks. Nice to see you offering options for us to wipe you off the face of the planet. But we already have enough goodies to turn you into atoms without spending anywhere near as much. But thanks for the thought.
WELL, that didn't work then did it.
No doubt Timmidman thinks his 'DEMAND' will work instead!
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Could you please find the off switch for it then? I think it's stuck in a un-ending repeat loop and the whine is beginning hurt my ears. We could leave it to burn out but I don't think that will happen for a while yet so i suggest putting it out of our misery now.
Internet forums are the ideal place to conduct such experiments because the tech is still primitive and would never be able to even remotely disguise itself in a one on one conversation.
I’ve seen the controllers announce who they are and what they’ve been doing a couple of times before. Once we were thanked for being unwitting participants in their experiment and once they had a bit of a gloat – I think the second one was part of a group of Bots and had won some sort of contest between them.
Well, Brazil and Argentina will simply withdraw if the US opposes Cuba at the table. I don't like the Cuban gov, but it's obvious that over 50 years of isolation has been an abject failure of US foreign policy and I think symbolic that it's a neighboring country who is still communist.
And then it wouldn't be much of a summit of the “Americas”, which is just another irrelevant summit like all others, both countries don't need it to have full diplomatic exchange.
Then you don't have to sit through any b0ll0cks about Argentina wanting it's precious and how people have submarines which stop them bullying people.
Which is why economic sanctions rarely work.
The summit of the Americas has more symbolic significance for the US government than for Argentina or Brazil, and to be honest the US doesn't really have any concerns in Latin America nor does it care much really. Brazil has an eye on the US for hemispheric influence, since they see themselves as long-term competitors with them. So f-ing up their summit on this issue is not much of a risk to them.
Have you heard the “” MRAP “”before ?
“has been an abject failure of US foreign policy” It cannot be overemphasized.
“who is still communist” I don't think so, Cuba is not communist anymore, it's a wannabe monarchy where King Fidel is trying to handle the power to his direct family.
The UKs Gross Domestic Product by Purchasing Power Parity is currently 7th or 8th in the world depending on whether you use the IMF, the World Bank or the CIA World Factbook as your measure.
Hence the silliness that Brighton council declared itself a nuclear free zone and demanded of the ministry of defence that it states no nuclear weapons were stored at the TA ( army reserve ) bases in the town.
After a while a letter came back niether confirming or denying nuclear weapons were stored at any of the TA bases :)
@ 22 You really are an insignificant person, a loser, you can't have the islands and you feel happy thinking that the UK has problems. You're so narrow-minded, don't you think you deserve more than being a miserable man? Think about it :)
ROFL @ UK so hard, not even in the top 20 anymore, pathetic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
ROFL, #27 by CIA's count, barely even in top 30 anymore, rofl
Oh look there's Argentina - not in the top 50 on the list you use to mock the UK.
Somebody has 2 usernames to create a sockpuppet and spam the forum.
@ 41 Yes, mastershakejb and Retard are the same user, he's furious because he can't have the Falklands.
Falkland Islands 27th
Argentina 57th
/me shakes his head at the stupidity/ignorance
Come give me a good shine, UK peasant!
@ 48 All of your comments are so depressing, siriously, you need help.
Too many people want others to do badly in order to feel better themselves.
I just want us to do better than everyone else. But for Argentina to go from 17,000 per capita to 31,000 would take 20-25 of good policies... a bit difficult to envision right now.
If they had all the above they'd probably be able to engage with the falklanders on a mature level about assisting one another into becoming prosperous.
Sadly, however, this is not the case. The Ilex Wars continue.
@48 Should tell you something. Because you're nothing now.
@51 Perhaps in a couple of hundred years.
They seem to suggest the only way to prove you are not one of them, is to simply allow the rampant vulgarity towards us to go completely unchallenged. I suggest the problem is with those with such a minset, not mine.
Go and have a look at this story,
Brazil turns protectionist: wants Mexico to limit car exports to 1.4bn in three years
look at the comments, you will see McClick being all wierd, I mean really, REALLY strange.
If he's not a BOT then he is definately on something, you don't get that strange just by accident y'know?
I enjoy having a dig occasionally but I try not to be offensive or to stereotype if I can help it. CFK does make it difficult though - the more I've learned about her administration over the last couple of years the more astonished i've become. She seems only concerned about cementing her place in Argentine history rather than furthering the interests of Argentines.
Timerman, here he is again, going on abt them islands and nuclear weapons, as if it was Argentina that was invaded and being attacked on a daily bases with abuse,
Does they not stop to realise, that if they just stopped mentioning the islands every 5 minutes then it would at least quiet down, but no chance of that, and if the British government does not respond, [as they want them to] then they will ratchet it up again, and again until they get a response,, then they can accuse the British of provocative talk,
The fact is gentle men, [some] it is argentine officials that are ratching this up, and the same people will one day rue the unguided jaw that utters without thinking of the consequences.
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When you say “its culture, its people” are being challenged, the same could be said for the Falklanders, their culture and their people are in fear of annihilation. It's neighbour refuses to acknowledge their right to exist and continuously ramps up arguments about making it theirs as a 'national cause'.
You're making some sensible arguments, i cannot say I agree with all of them. But you cannot be surprised that you're met with a wall of emotion. These Falklanders aren't just physically tough, they're mentally tough, from years of this continuous threat.
Islands cost a lot of money to tax payers, why the islands can not produce enough money to afford to pay all the bills including deffence?, I think islanders are like parasitos that suck the british tax payers miney, it is time to the islanders to grow up and afford to pay the bills, to me islanders still are in mom and papi house.
It is the truth and real deal, grow up and stop sucking british people money.
face the real world to me all islanders are like 5 years old kids that still need the parents protection.
It is a easy life
So where does that leave us?
There is nothing rational about the modern day peronist political establishment in Argentina.It relies on lies,disinformation and distortions as did the communists before they were found out.
In Argentina the inmates are running the asylum.
I know you Marmierdans aren't happy, with all that hatred inside, it's not surprising.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
I don't know what any of it means so can you explain it to me please? I can see that Argentina is outside the top 50 in all of the columns. Can you explain that to me as well please? Cheers.
many try but fail to distort the facts, with silly arguments of dementa and distractions,
you cannot just dismis facts today,
the falklands are british, not argentine,
the falklands are protected by the british, and not argentina,
and there is nothing CFK can do about it,
try as you may, but these facts are just that, [facts]
Tobias I think we are generally with you on this but can you not see that what you accusing the pro-Falklands group of doing is also being done by the 'Malvinistas@?
You are right, it is hard to think straight and talk seriously when somebody is attacking you because of your nationality or your point of view. Welcome to the club.
Personally I'm often astonished that both the Argentine government and posters on here think the way to achieve their outcome is by aggression, lies and deceit.
The problem they have with this is they simply discredit themselves with world bodies UN, EU etc and strengthen British resolve and given the British are in a different league when it comes to economic, political and military power Argentina is always going to be on a losing position (as we have recently seen in a great number of incidents).
And after all this is said and done one can only surmise CFK is simply grandstanding to take the focus off Argentina's failed economy.
Why do you want the Falklands? Sure, fish & oil. But if ever Argentina rule the islands any economic gain will be shared between a few Buenos Aires' officials and an international company able to do the job, like Repsol. People at Argentina's mainland will never get anything as far as I can see.
Hope Argentina never let anyone from the islands touch Argentina land, I will be laughin in my house watchin on tv how all de mierdas in the islands beg to get a shelter in Argentina.
To me all you people are parasitos, bugs, living down there cos are not ready to have a life in a real world, losers is the deffinition, nothing more than losers.
You're just like Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because you're sour that they have a nice life and just like Iraq you cannot pay your debts.
Others around Cristina Kirchner that are also crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
Are you crazy or in drugs?, how can you comapared Argentina with Irak?, after all and all the sitt that you said about Argentina, have you been in Argentina?, do you know Bs AS.
If hku did it, when?, if you did not, sorry but you don t have the autority and ever can discuss about Argentina, you have nothing more than newspapers said in your brain, that mean you just repeat what others say, you are not credible,
You Malvinistas are cowards, all you can do is cry, sad people, really.
Both Kuwait and the Falklands were significantly militarized following the invasions. The difference is that Argentina didn't learn it's lesson the first time.
So, we'll see what happens the next time.
Iraq = Arentina
Kuwait = Falklands
Resources = Resources
does then the USA withdraw from this organisasion, and the OAS,
or just let cuba take part .
Does anyone GAF what Cuba does?
It is run by two old unreconstructed commie farts who are starting to lose control / realise the experitment of communism has failed world-wide.
Even the Chinese are acting like a psuedo advanced commercial coutry but with the threat of a massive army in reserve, just in case.
nope .
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