Argentina and Brazil Foreign Affairs ministers said in Sao Paulo both countries are committed that the next Summit of the Americas to be held in April in Colombia is the last without the participation of Cuba. Read full article
South Atlantic isn't in South America. Are these people retards? What about the South Pacific area? You want to question whether there are any nuclear weapons there too?
A proven to be belligerent nation making demands. How quaint.
No doubt that Brazil-Argentina think logically and have right concerns
Britain's military objective is clear to maintain military bases control over maritime routes,and control over the national assets of the region that prey on it will
and also the permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like someting from the colonial past.
@4 The only reason the Falklands is militarised is because you little sh1ts decided to invade it in 1982. If invading other people's land and enshrining this in your laws isn't a colonial mentality then I don't know what is.
Argentina or Mar Mierda isn't worth thinking about in any political context. End of story.
10: what are you even talking about? The destroyers we have are better than anything the Americans have of a similar class and all future projects are not set to be reduced at any level. We have plenty of Typhoons on order and will start using F35Bs in a few years time, I would suggest that the Argentine navy with it's 3000 ton 30 year old corvettes and it's submarines that are the underwater equivalent of a rusting volvo would be better advised to address their future military spending, and quickly, before the rest of the country realises you don't actually have any money.
“This has to be the last summit in which Cuba does not participate”, said Argentine minister Hector Timerman Until the U.S. says otherwise!
Timerman, quoted by a release from the Argentine Foreign Affairs ministry said that South America is a region “free of nuclear weapons” and warned about the United Kingdom’s increasing militarization of the South Atlantic region.
He repeated that the UK government has neither confirmed nor denied the presence of nuclear weapons in the area and reaffirmed that bringing nuclear weapons in the region would be in direct contradiction with the Tlatelolco Treaty, which looks to keep Latin America free of nuclear weapons. Proof, feckwit. Where is the proof?
@4 Britain's military objective is clear to maintain military bases control over appropriate maritime routes, and control over the national assets of the British Overseas Territories and deny the aspirations of rogue countries that prey on them and also the permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like a responsible nation.
@8 & 10. Thanks. Nice to see you offering options for us to wipe you off the face of the planet. But we already have enough goodies to turn you into atoms without spending anywhere near as much. But thanks for the thought.
@14 To be fair, having a morally and economically bankrupt country stand up in support of any third party, isn't exactly doing said third party a favour.
Could you please find the off switch for it then? I think it's stuck in a un-ending repeat loop and the whine is beginning hurt my ears. We could leave it to burn out but I don't think that will happen for a while yet so i suggest putting it out of our misery now.
The only off switch is to ignore them. If they are not receiving any responses because they’ve been rumbled then the project becomes pointless as they can no longer glean data to measure their degree of success or improve their responses.
Internet forums are the ideal place to conduct such experiments because the tech is still primitive and would never be able to even remotely disguise itself in a one on one conversation.
I’ve seen the controllers announce who they are and what they’ve been doing a couple of times before. Once we were thanked for being unwitting participants in their experiment and once they had a bit of a gloat – I think the second one was part of a group of Bots and had won some sort of contest between them.
Well, Brazil and Argentina will simply withdraw if the US opposes Cuba at the table. I don't like the Cuban gov, but it's obvious that over 50 years of isolation has been an abject failure of US foreign policy and I think symbolic that it's a neighboring country who is still communist.
And then it wouldn't be much of a summit of the Americas, which is just another irrelevant summit like all others, both countries don't need it to have full diplomatic exchange.
@18 Sure, it's better for the Uruguay, Brazil and Chile to have effective bilateral agreements with USA than have to agree things through a furkshow completely destroyed by Cuba and Mar Mierda.
Then you don't have to sit through any b0ll0cks about Argentina wanting it's precious and how people have submarines which stop them bullying people.
The USA is not that relevant in either Brazil or Argentina trade, it's only 5-10% of exports, when exports are only 20% of the economy, so we are talking percentages of percentages, and any sanctions (totally unlikely), would only affect a small percentage of the trade percentage which itself is a percentage of the GDP.
Which is why economic sanctions rarely work.
The summit of the Americas has more symbolic significance for the US government than for Argentina or Brazil, and to be honest the US doesn't really have any concerns in Latin America nor does it care much really. Brazil has an eye on the US for hemispheric influence, since they see themselves as long-term competitors with them. So f-ing up their summit on this issue is not much of a risk to them.
UK's economy sputtering in stagflation, just a colony of the US now. Poor little UKers reminiscing about a time looooooooonnnnnngggg ago when UK was powerful and wealthy. lol so hard at UK's gdp ppp nowadays, not even in the top 20 anymore rofl
@18 tobias
has been an abject failure of US foreign policy It cannot be overemphasized.
who is still communist I don't think so, Cuba is not communist anymore, it's a wannabe monarchy where King Fidel is trying to handle the power to his direct family.
The UKs Gross Domestic Product by Purchasing Power Parity is currently 7th or 8th in the world depending on whether you use the IMF, the World Bank or the CIA World Factbook as your measure.
Uk does not comment on where it's nukes are ever.
Hence the silliness that Brighton council declared itself a nuclear free zone and demanded of the ministry of defence that it states no nuclear weapons were stored at the TA ( army reserve ) bases in the town.
After a while a letter came back niether confirming or denying nuclear weapons were stored at any of the TA bases :)
Brighton is actually a hotbed of nuclear arms. The beach is littered with torpedoes of all shapes and sizes and all are claimed to possess the power of a nuclear weapon.
@ 8 Why are you scared, Malvinista? What happens? hahaha
@ 22 You really are an insignificant person, a loser, you can't have the islands and you feel happy thinking that the UK has problems. You're so narrow-minded, don't you think you deserve more than being a miserable man? Think about it :)
Per capita is a pretty meaningless stat and I doubt the UK was ever near the top of that. I assume you bow to the power of the mighty Qatar - or Luxembourg?
Oh look there's Argentina - not in the top 50 on the list you use to mock the UK.
Idlehands, come give me a good bootshine, you poor third world UKer. I wanna see my reflection in my shoes. Like your PM's doin for my president right now
@If the countries that existed in 1920 existed today, Argentina would be in the top 30. Those list include ridiculous territories like Hong Kong, Brunei, Lietschenstein, etc... Not that it shouldn't be much better regardless (the per capita should be on par with the EU).
...or Qatar - a tiny arab island with a tiny population sat over an enormous oilfield. If the hydrocarbon industry does flourish in the Falklands I'd expect them to be very near the top of that particular list too.
Good for them though. I really have never been able to feel resentment for others doing well. I want the Falklands to do well, I want Brazil to do well, I want Chile and Uruguay to do well. I want the UK or the USA or Europe to do well.
Too many people want others to do badly in order to feel better themselves.
I just want us to do better than everyone else. But for Argentina to go from 17,000 per capita to 31,000 would take 20-25 of good policies... a bit difficult to envision right now.
@51 If Argentina had a nice growing economy with a system of governance built upon justice and law, rather than corruption and coercion, then I'd certainly be happier. If they showed they were trustworthy, I'd certainly be happier.
If they had all the above they'd probably be able to engage with the falklanders on a mature level about assisting one another into becoming prosperous.
Sadly, however, this is not the case. The Ilex Wars continue.
We need more Argentine posters like tobias and less like havetocorrectthisretard. Others will be discouraged from joining the forum if they see exchanges like above taking hold here.
To be blunt, the problem many here pose (even serious debaters), is that some make it hard for people like me to show a completely realistic mindset, when they relentlessly tare you down solely based on nationality. When absolutely everything about your country is being assailed (not just the legitimate issues like policy and global relations, where the world has a genuine right to be furious, but its culture, its people), its rather difficult to come to an agreement with others, especially when the mere attept to refute some of the more ridiculous comments are interpreted by the serious posters as being full in with the malivinistas.
They seem to suggest the only way to prove you are not one of them, is to simply allow the rampant vulgarity towards us to go completely unchallenged. I suggest the problem is with those with such a minset, not mine.
There's nutters on both sides - they know who they are. The problem here is that although it is a South American news site it is dominated by the Falklands issue and posters are naturally drawn here who have an interest in that.
I enjoy having a dig occasionally but I try not to be offensive or to stereotype if I can help it. CFK does make it difficult though - the more I've learned about her administration over the last couple of years the more astonished i've become. She seems only concerned about cementing her place in Argentine history rather than furthering the interests of Argentines.
I was hoping to read this, and say, what a good meeting and not one reference to the islands, but no, he could not do it could he,, some argie bloggers go on abt always us picking on Argentina, and again and again argentine officials just cant go anywhere without mentioning the bloody islands,
Timerman, here he is again, going on abt them islands and nuclear weapons, as if it was Argentina that was invaded and being attacked on a daily bases with abuse,
Does they not stop to realise, that if they just stopped mentioning the islands every 5 minutes then it would at least quiet down, but no chance of that, and if the British government does not respond, [as they want them to] then they will ratchet it up again, and again until they get a response,, then they can accuse the British of provocative talk,
The fact is gentle men, [some] it is argentine officials that are ratching this up, and the same people will one day rue the unguided jaw that utters without thinking of the consequences.
@55 Tobias, look at it from the other perspective. If a family was continuously bullying your little brother and then someone from that family came over to your house and said 'this bullying doesn't make any sense' it creates a mixed emotional state. To be fair, until a few years ago, i thought Argentinians were quite nice and everyone was getting along well. Then suddenly this little-brother bullying started up and what do you expect the reaction to be.
When you say its culture, its people are being challenged, the same could be said for the Falklanders, their culture and their people are in fear of annihilation. It's neighbour refuses to acknowledge their right to exist and continuously ramps up arguments about making it theirs as a 'national cause'.
You're making some sensible arguments, i cannot say I agree with all of them. But you cannot be surprised that you're met with a wall of emotion. These Falklanders aren't just physically tough, they're mentally tough, from years of this continuous threat.
59 you forget that Malvinas are a colonia from uk, it dosen t matter the way you want to make people think, islands are still a colonia in a land that doesen t belong to uk. STILL a COLONIA with second citizens rights, actually if the islands will continued spending tax money from real british citizens can make this people change the way.
Islands cost a lot of money to tax payers, why the islands can not produce enough money to afford to pay all the bills including deffence?, I think islanders are like parasitos that suck the british tax payers miney, it is time to the islanders to grow up and afford to pay the bills, to me islanders still are in mom and papi house.
It is the truth and real deal, grow up and stop sucking british people money.
face the real world to me all islanders are like 5 years old kids that still need the parents protection.
It is a easy life
Am I the only poster here who thinks that this Malvinas religion which is followed by a seemingly large part of the Argentine population is a form of institutionalised insanity,as was Nazism in Germany. There it led to extermination camps and mass murder ,here if followed through it would lead to ethnic cleansing in the 21st century.
There is nothing rational about the modern day peronist political establishment in Argentina.It relies on lies,disinformation and distortions as did the communists before they were found out.
In Argentina the inmates are running the asylum.
62, so ignorant! what do u know? come on.... u need to read more and looking for the inofrmation. Nowadays few kelpers in MALVINAS and few british, what else? perhaps I will find more indians in few years in Malvinas, e.g. as Fiji Island (more Indians than fijians).
@64 I know that the Falklanders have a right to choose how they live their lives, and to live those lives in peace without continuous threat of illegal violence from Marmierdans e.g. calls to ethnic cleansing like ”UK, GO OUT OF MALVINAS (with your Dear Kelpers)!”.
I know you Marmierdans aren't happy, with all that hatred inside, it's not surprising.
I don't know what any of it means so can you explain it to me please? I can see that Argentina is outside the top 50 in all of the columns. Can you explain that to me as well please? Cheers.
the fact is, the malvinas is like , atlantis, its just a myth,
many try but fail to distort the facts, with silly arguments of dementa and distractions,
you cannot just dismis facts today,
the falklands are british, not argentine,
the falklands are protected by the british, and not argentina,
and there is nothing CFK can do about it,
try as you may, but these facts are just that, [facts]
Tobias I think we are generally with you on this but can you not see that what you accusing the pro-Falklands group of doing is also being done by the 'Malvinistas@?
You are right, it is hard to think straight and talk seriously when somebody is attacking you because of your nationality or your point of view. Welcome to the club.
The problem Tobias has he is a sane logical chap and for every one of these we see from Argentina we see 20 other deluded fools spamming the forum with nonsense and lies.
Personally I'm often astonished that both the Argentine government and posters on here think the way to achieve their outcome is by aggression, lies and deceit.
The problem they have with this is they simply discredit themselves with world bodies UN, EU etc and strengthen British resolve and given the British are in a different league when it comes to economic, political and military power Argentina is always going to be on a losing position (as we have recently seen in a great number of incidents).
And after all this is said and done one can only surmise CFK is simply grandstanding to take the focus off Argentina's failed economy.
@60 Kipling
Why do you want the Falklands? Sure, fish & oil. But if ever Argentina rule the islands any economic gain will be shared between a few Buenos Aires' officials and an international company able to do the job, like Repsol. People at Argentina's mainland will never get anything as far as I can see.
62 Greekmierda, to me the mierda are you and all tbe people in Malvinas, I will be the first laughing if a Tzunami sink the island under the water and I hope Argentina did not let anybody from the islands come to Argentina.
Hope Argentina never let anyone from the islands touch Argentina land, I will be laughin in my house watchin on tv how all de mierdas in the islands beg to get a shelter in Argentina.
To me all you people are parasitos, bugs, living down there cos are not ready to have a life in a real world, losers is the deffinition, nothing more than losers.
@62 As long as you call the Falklands by 'Las Malvinas', which isn't it's name but an offensive term you use, then I'll keep calling Mar Mierda by the offensive term 'Argentina'.
You're just like Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because you're sour that they have a nice life and just like Iraq you cannot pay your debts.
Mad psychotic bitch is the best term for Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina!
Others around Cristina Kirchner that are also crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
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Are you crazy or in drugs?, how can you comapared Argentina with Irak?, after all and all the sitt that you said about Argentina, have you been in Argentina?, do you know Bs AS.
If hku did it, when?, if you did not, sorry but you don t have the autority and ever can discuss about Argentina, you have nothing more than newspapers said in your brain, that mean you just repeat what others say, you are not credible,
@ 72 qué loser que sos por favor, sos un tipo deprimente, todos tus comentarios son lloriqueos de maricona porque no podés tener las islas.
You Malvinistas are cowards, all you can do is cry, sad people, really.
@74 I understand your wish to get your point across BUT copying and pasting the same comment to a number of different articles is not the way to do it. It is very argie insofar as being an attempt to drown everyone else out. It is also BORING! Some of us have sufficient intelligence to be able to recall the import of a lengthy comment. Please stop it!
@75 it's quite easy. Iraq wanted kuwait and wanted the resources of kuwait. It accused kuwait of stealing it's own resources to which it was entitled and owed it a vast amount of money. Argentina wants the falklands and wants the resources of the falklands. It accused the falklands of stealing it's own resources to which it was entitled and has lost a vast amount of money. Both Iraq and Argentina have/had a nationalistic government with a family dictatorship and a controlled media. Iraq invaded kuwait because of this, and Argentina invaded the Falklands.
Both Kuwait and the Falklands were significantly militarized following the invasions. The difference is that Argentina didn't learn it's lesson the first time.
so if these guys want cuba on board, and the americans refuse to entertain this idea, what then happens,
does then the USA withdraw from this organisasion, and the OAS,
or just let cuba take part .
Comments
Disclaimer & comment rulesUK government has neither confirmed nor denied the presence of nuclear weapons in the area
Mar 14th, 2012 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any well educated politician would know that the UK would not confirm nor deny this, as it defeats the purpose of having the deterent.
GOD!!!!!!! You RG's are really really f'in stupid! mind you know one listens to timerman anyway !!!
Tinky Winky Timerman at it again with his fairy stories !
Mar 14th, 2012 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0South Atlantic isn't in South America. Are these people retards? What about the South Pacific area? You want to question whether there are any nuclear weapons there too?
Mar 14th, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0A proven to be belligerent nation making demands. How quaint.
No doubt that Brazil-Argentina think logically and have right concerns
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain's military objective is clear to maintain military bases control over maritime routes,and control over the national assets of the region that prey on it will
and also the permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like someting from the colonial past.
@4 The only reason the Falklands is militarised is because you little sh1ts decided to invade it in 1982. If invading other people's land and enshrining this in your laws isn't a colonial mentality then I don't know what is.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina or Mar Mierda isn't worth thinking about in any political context. End of story.
Maybe they should reserve their concerns until the moment a Trident goes bang
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Otherwise it's a bit silly.
Do the Russians or the Americans advise Argentina of the locations of their sea borne nuclear deterrents? ....and does Argentina demand to know?
@6 Don't they know subs cannot navigate in Mar Mierda? It's too thick.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 6 Idle
Mar 14th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I propose to try to purchase more sophisticated weapons for English instdead having ramshackles.
ı unit destroyer : Arleigh-Burke Class ..per price 1,299,million $
2 units Ocean Patrol P8-A Poseidon : per price 206,5 million $
6 units F-22 Raptors(equipped AIM-9 Seawinder missiles):Per price 211,6 million $
2 unit Virginia Class Submarine : per price 2,552,6 milions $
1 unit CVN-78 Class aircraft carrier : per price 9,782,3 million $
Posters will notice that MrClick hasn't even denied my allegation that he is a Bot project.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a computer to those unsure of what I'm talking about.
@ 9 Idle
Mar 14th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you don't have enough budget ,you can order cheaper planes.
F/A-18/F super Hornets ...per price : 90.8 million $
10: what are you even talking about? The destroyers we have are better than anything the Americans have of a similar class and all future projects are not set to be reduced at any level. We have plenty of Typhoons on order and will start using F35Bs in a few years time, I would suggest that the Argentine navy with it's 3000 ton 30 year old corvettes and it's submarines that are the underwater equivalent of a rusting volvo would be better advised to address their future military spending, and quickly, before the rest of the country realises you don't actually have any money.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I said - you're not talking to a person - you are talking to a computer algorithm
Mar 14th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://ai-programming.com/bot_tutorial.htm
The funny part is that the posts are more sane than some of the real humans on here.
“This has to be the last summit in which Cuba does not participate”, said Argentine minister Hector Timerman Until the U.S. says otherwise!
Mar 14th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman, quoted by a release from the Argentine Foreign Affairs ministry said that South America is a region “free of nuclear weapons” and warned about the United Kingdom’s increasing militarization of the South Atlantic region.
He repeated that the UK government has neither confirmed nor denied the presence of nuclear weapons in the area and reaffirmed that bringing nuclear weapons in the region would be in direct contradiction with the Tlatelolco Treaty, which looks to keep Latin America free of nuclear weapons. Proof, feckwit. Where is the proof?
@4 Britain's military objective is clear to maintain military bases control over appropriate maritime routes, and control over the national assets of the British Overseas Territories and deny the aspirations of rogue countries that prey on them and also the permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like a responsible nation.
@8 & 10. Thanks. Nice to see you offering options for us to wipe you off the face of the planet. But we already have enough goodies to turn you into atoms without spending anywhere near as much. But thanks for the thought.
Patriota recalled that at the previous summit then President Lula da Silva had openly expressed the support and need for Cuba to attend the meeting.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WELL, that didn't work then did it.
No doubt Timmidman thinks his 'DEMAND' will work instead!
Ha, Ha, etc. :o)
@14 To be fair, having a morally and economically bankrupt country stand up in support of any third party, isn't exactly doing said third party a favour.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 Idlehands
Mar 14th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could you please find the off switch for it then? I think it's stuck in a un-ending repeat loop and the whine is beginning hurt my ears. We could leave it to burn out but I don't think that will happen for a while yet so i suggest putting it out of our misery now.
The only off switch is to ignore them. If they are not receiving any responses because they’ve been rumbled then the project becomes pointless as they can no longer glean data to measure their degree of success or improve their responses.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Internet forums are the ideal place to conduct such experiments because the tech is still primitive and would never be able to even remotely disguise itself in a one on one conversation.
I’ve seen the controllers announce who they are and what they’ve been doing a couple of times before. Once we were thanked for being unwitting participants in their experiment and once they had a bit of a gloat – I think the second one was part of a group of Bots and had won some sort of contest between them.
@13
Mar 14th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, Brazil and Argentina will simply withdraw if the US opposes Cuba at the table. I don't like the Cuban gov, but it's obvious that over 50 years of isolation has been an abject failure of US foreign policy and I think symbolic that it's a neighboring country who is still communist.
And then it wouldn't be much of a summit of the Americas, which is just another irrelevant summit like all others, both countries don't need it to have full diplomatic exchange.
@18 Sure, it's better for the Uruguay, Brazil and Chile to have effective bilateral agreements with USA than have to agree things through a furkshow completely destroyed by Cuba and Mar Mierda.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then you don't have to sit through any b0ll0cks about Argentina wanting it's precious and how people have submarines which stop them bullying people.
lol, UK is just a US colony now. Poor little UK, loooooong ago an empire, now just a colony. They furious
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA is not that relevant in either Brazil or Argentina trade, it's only 5-10% of exports, when exports are only 20% of the economy, so we are talking percentages of percentages, and any sanctions (totally unlikely), would only affect a small percentage of the trade percentage which itself is a percentage of the GDP.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which is why economic sanctions rarely work.
The summit of the Americas has more symbolic significance for the US government than for Argentina or Brazil, and to be honest the US doesn't really have any concerns in Latin America nor does it care much really. Brazil has an eye on the US for hemispheric influence, since they see themselves as long-term competitors with them. So f-ing up their summit on this issue is not much of a risk to them.
UK's economy sputtering in stagflation, just a colony of the US now. Poor little UKers reminiscing about a time looooooooonnnnnngggg ago when UK was powerful and wealthy. lol so hard at UK's gdp ppp nowadays, not even in the top 20 anymore rofl
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 11
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you heard the MRAP before ?
UK's gdp ppp not even in the top 20 anymore, rofl
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0each MRAP price ... 1,6 million $
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 tobias
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0has been an abject failure of US foreign policy It cannot be overemphasized.
who is still communist I don't think so, Cuba is not communist anymore, it's a wannabe monarchy where King Fidel is trying to handle the power to his direct family.
UK's gdp ppp doesn't even make the top 20 anymore, rofl
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have to correct this retard.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UKs Gross Domestic Product by Purchasing Power Parity is currently 7th or 8th in the world depending on whether you use the IMF, the World Bank or the CIA World Factbook as your measure.
Uk does not comment on where it's nukes are ever.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hence the silliness that Brighton council declared itself a nuclear free zone and demanded of the ministry of defence that it states no nuclear weapons were stored at the TA ( army reserve ) bases in the town.
After a while a letter came back niether confirming or denying nuclear weapons were stored at any of the TA bases :)
@29 By nuclear free? do they mean there are no atomic nuclei there?
Mar 14th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brighton is actually a hotbed of nuclear arms. The beach is littered with torpedoes of all shapes and sizes and all are claimed to possess the power of a nuclear weapon.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8 Why are you scared, Malvinista? What happens? hahaha
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 22 You really are an insignificant person, a loser, you can't have the islands and you feel happy thinking that the UK has problems. You're so narrow-minded, don't you think you deserve more than being a miserable man? Think about it :)
Actually UK's gdp per capita ppp does NOT break the top 20, fact, look it up, rofl, #22 now, or #24 even, depending on your source
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ROFL @ UK so hard, not even in the top 20 anymore, pathetic.
Here you go Mr Retard:
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ROFL, #27 by CIA's count, barely even in top 30 anymore, rofl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita HAAAHAHAHAHAHA UK mohammeds are furious! m/ not even in top 20 anymore, soon to not even be in top 30
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Per capita is a pretty meaningless stat and I doubt the UK was ever near the top of that. I assume you bow to the power of the mighty Qatar - or Luxembourg?
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh look there's Argentina - not in the top 50 on the list you use to mock the UK.
LOL @ furious, proven wrong, mohammed ^. So poor compared to us USA Americans, are you gonna beg me for alms? hahahahah!
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Idlehands, you can come across the ocean and lick my boots like Cameron is doing for Obama right now
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Somebody has 2 usernames to create a sockpuppet and spam the forum.
Come lick my boots like your PM
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really don't know when you are embarassing yourself do you?
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Idlehands, come give me a good bootshine, you poor third world UKer. I wanna see my reflection in my shoes. Like your PM's doin for my president right now
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 39 to us USA Americans excuse me? You are an Argentine, ¿a quién querés engañar Malvinista? Loser.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 41 Yes, mastershakejb and Retard are the same user, he's furious because he can't have the Falklands.
By your own preferred stats:
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islands 27th
Argentina 57th
lol, oh I'm an Argentine? that's news to me, lol since when?
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0/me shakes his head at the stupidity/ignorance
Come give me a good shine, UK peasant!
@If the countries that existed in 1920 existed today, Argentina would be in the top 30. Those list include ridiculous territories like Hong Kong, Brunei, Lietschenstein, etc... Not that it shouldn't be much better regardless (the per capita should be on par with the EU).
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...or Qatar - a tiny arab island with a tiny population sat over an enormous oilfield. If the hydrocarbon industry does flourish in the Falklands I'd expect them to be very near the top of that particular list too.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 yes you are an Argentine, tontito :) and you are also a homosexual foot fetishist. I can't stand your faggotry, sorry.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 48 All of your comments are so depressing, siriously, you need help.
Good for them though. I really have never been able to feel resentment for others doing well. I want the Falklands to do well, I want Brazil to do well, I want Chile and Uruguay to do well. I want the UK or the USA or Europe to do well.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too many people want others to do badly in order to feel better themselves.
I just want us to do better than everyone else. But for Argentina to go from 17,000 per capita to 31,000 would take 20-25 of good policies... a bit difficult to envision right now.
@51 If Argentina had a nice growing economy with a system of governance built upon justice and law, rather than corruption and coercion, then I'd certainly be happier. If they showed they were trustworthy, I'd certainly be happier.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they had all the above they'd probably be able to engage with the falklanders on a mature level about assisting one another into becoming prosperous.
Sadly, however, this is not the case. The Ilex Wars continue.
We need more Argentine posters like tobias and less like havetocorrectthisretard. Others will be discouraged from joining the forum if they see exchanges like above taking hold here.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20, 22, 24, 27, 33, 34, 36, 37, 39, 40, 42, 44 & 47 Poor little child(ren). Back to the nursery now. Grown-up people are talking.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 Should tell you something. Because you're nothing now.
@51 Perhaps in a couple of hundred years.
To be blunt, the problem many here pose (even serious debaters), is that some make it hard for people like me to show a completely realistic mindset, when they relentlessly tare you down solely based on nationality. When absolutely everything about your country is being assailed (not just the legitimate issues like policy and global relations, where the world has a genuine right to be furious, but its culture, its people), its rather difficult to come to an agreement with others, especially when the mere attept to refute some of the more ridiculous comments are interpreted by the serious posters as being full in with the malivinistas.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They seem to suggest the only way to prove you are not one of them, is to simply allow the rampant vulgarity towards us to go completely unchallenged. I suggest the problem is with those with such a minset, not mine.
9 Idlehands
Mar 14th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go and have a look at this story,
Brazil turns protectionist: wants Mexico to limit car exports to 1.4bn in three years
look at the comments, you will see McClick being all wierd, I mean really, REALLY strange.
If he's not a BOT then he is definately on something, you don't get that strange just by accident y'know?
There's nutters on both sides - they know who they are. The problem here is that although it is a South American news site it is dominated by the Falklands issue and posters are naturally drawn here who have an interest in that.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I enjoy having a dig occasionally but I try not to be offensive or to stereotype if I can help it. CFK does make it difficult though - the more I've learned about her administration over the last couple of years the more astonished i've become. She seems only concerned about cementing her place in Argentine history rather than furthering the interests of Argentines.
I was hoping to read this, and say, what a good meeting and not one reference to the islands, but no, he could not do it could he,, some argie bloggers go on abt always us picking on Argentina, and again and again argentine officials just cant go anywhere without mentioning the bloody islands,
Mar 14th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman, here he is again, going on abt them islands and nuclear weapons, as if it was Argentina that was invaded and being attacked on a daily bases with abuse,
Does they not stop to realise, that if they just stopped mentioning the islands every 5 minutes then it would at least quiet down, but no chance of that, and if the British government does not respond, [as they want them to] then they will ratchet it up again, and again until they get a response,, then they can accuse the British of provocative talk,
The fact is gentle men, [some] it is argentine officials that are ratching this up, and the same people will one day rue the unguided jaw that utters without thinking of the consequences.
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@55 Tobias, look at it from the other perspective. If a family was continuously bullying your little brother and then someone from that family came over to your house and said 'this bullying doesn't make any sense' it creates a mixed emotional state. To be fair, until a few years ago, i thought Argentinians were quite nice and everyone was getting along well. Then suddenly this little-brother bullying started up and what do you expect the reaction to be.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you say its culture, its people are being challenged, the same could be said for the Falklanders, their culture and their people are in fear of annihilation. It's neighbour refuses to acknowledge their right to exist and continuously ramps up arguments about making it theirs as a 'national cause'.
You're making some sensible arguments, i cannot say I agree with all of them. But you cannot be surprised that you're met with a wall of emotion. These Falklanders aren't just physically tough, they're mentally tough, from years of this continuous threat.
UK, GO OUT OF MALVINAS (with your Dear Kelpers)!
Mar 14th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 059 you forget that Malvinas are a colonia from uk, it dosen t matter the way you want to make people think, islands are still a colonia in a land that doesen t belong to uk. STILL a COLONIA with second citizens rights, actually if the islands will continued spending tax money from real british citizens can make this people change the way.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islands cost a lot of money to tax payers, why the islands can not produce enough money to afford to pay all the bills including deffence?, I think islanders are like parasitos that suck the british tax payers miney, it is time to the islanders to grow up and afford to pay the bills, to me islanders still are in mom and papi house.
It is the truth and real deal, grow up and stop sucking british people money.
face the real world to me all islanders are like 5 years old kids that still need the parents protection.
It is a easy life
@61 ... and you forget Marmierdas are 'colonia' from Spain, and your land belongs to the first nations people.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So where does that leave us?
Am I the only poster here who thinks that this Malvinas religion which is followed by a seemingly large part of the Argentine population is a form of institutionalised insanity,as was Nazism in Germany. There it led to extermination camps and mass murder ,here if followed through it would lead to ethnic cleansing in the 21st century.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing rational about the modern day peronist political establishment in Argentina.It relies on lies,disinformation and distortions as did the communists before they were found out.
In Argentina the inmates are running the asylum.
62, so ignorant! what do u know? come on.... u need to read more and looking for the inofrmation. Nowadays few kelpers in MALVINAS and few british, what else? perhaps I will find more indians in few years in Malvinas, e.g. as Fiji Island (more Indians than fijians).
Mar 14th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 I know that the Falklanders have a right to choose how they live their lives, and to live those lives in peace without continuous threat of illegal violence from Marmierdans e.g. calls to ethnic cleansing like ”UK, GO OUT OF MALVINAS (with your Dear Kelpers)!”.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know you Marmierdans aren't happy, with all that hatred inside, it's not surprising.
@34.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
I don't know what any of it means so can you explain it to me please? I can see that Argentina is outside the top 50 in all of the columns. Can you explain that to me as well please? Cheers.
the fact is, the malvinas is like , atlantis, its just a myth,
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0many try but fail to distort the facts, with silly arguments of dementa and distractions,
you cannot just dismis facts today,
the falklands are british, not argentine,
the falklands are protected by the british, and not argentina,
and there is nothing CFK can do about it,
try as you may, but these facts are just that, [facts]
@55 tobias (#)
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias I think we are generally with you on this but can you not see that what you accusing the pro-Falklands group of doing is also being done by the 'Malvinistas@?
You are right, it is hard to think straight and talk seriously when somebody is attacking you because of your nationality or your point of view. Welcome to the club.
The problem Tobias has he is a sane logical chap and for every one of these we see from Argentina we see 20 other deluded fools spamming the forum with nonsense and lies.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Personally I'm often astonished that both the Argentine government and posters on here think the way to achieve their outcome is by aggression, lies and deceit.
The problem they have with this is they simply discredit themselves with world bodies UN, EU etc and strengthen British resolve and given the British are in a different league when it comes to economic, political and military power Argentina is always going to be on a losing position (as we have recently seen in a great number of incidents).
And after all this is said and done one can only surmise CFK is simply grandstanding to take the focus off Argentina's failed economy.
@60 Kipling
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you want the Falklands? Sure, fish & oil. But if ever Argentina rule the islands any economic gain will be shared between a few Buenos Aires' officials and an international company able to do the job, like Repsol. People at Argentina's mainland will never get anything as far as I can see.
Give me a good shine, UK peasants!
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 062 Greekmierda, to me the mierda are you and all tbe people in Malvinas, I will be the first laughing if a Tzunami sink the island under the water and I hope Argentina did not let anybody from the islands come to Argentina.
Mar 15th, 2012 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hope Argentina never let anyone from the islands touch Argentina land, I will be laughin in my house watchin on tv how all de mierdas in the islands beg to get a shelter in Argentina.
To me all you people are parasitos, bugs, living down there cos are not ready to have a life in a real world, losers is the deffinition, nothing more than losers.
@62 As long as you call the Falklands by 'Las Malvinas', which isn't it's name but an offensive term you use, then I'll keep calling Mar Mierda by the offensive term 'Argentina'.
Mar 15th, 2012 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're just like Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because you're sour that they have a nice life and just like Iraq you cannot pay your debts.
Mad psychotic bitch is the best term for Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina!
Mar 15th, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Others around Cristina Kirchner that are also crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
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Mar 15th, 2012 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you crazy or in drugs?, how can you comapared Argentina with Irak?, after all and all the sitt that you said about Argentina, have you been in Argentina?, do you know Bs AS.
If hku did it, when?, if you did not, sorry but you don t have the autority and ever can discuss about Argentina, you have nothing more than newspapers said in your brain, that mean you just repeat what others say, you are not credible,
@ 72 qué loser que sos por favor, sos un tipo deprimente, todos tus comentarios son lloriqueos de maricona porque no podés tener las islas.
Mar 15th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0You Malvinistas are cowards, all you can do is cry, sad people, really.
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Mar 15th, 2012 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@74 I understand your wish to get your point across BUT copying and pasting the same comment to a number of different articles is not the way to do it. It is very argie insofar as being an attempt to drown everyone else out. It is also BORING! Some of us have sufficient intelligence to be able to recall the import of a lengthy comment. Please stop it!
Mar 15th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75 it's quite easy. Iraq wanted kuwait and wanted the resources of kuwait. It accused kuwait of stealing it's own resources to which it was entitled and owed it a vast amount of money. Argentina wants the falklands and wants the resources of the falklands. It accused the falklands of stealing it's own resources to which it was entitled and has lost a vast amount of money. Both Iraq and Argentina have/had a nationalistic government with a family dictatorship and a controlled media. Iraq invaded kuwait because of this, and Argentina invaded the Falklands.
Mar 15th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both Kuwait and the Falklands were significantly militarized following the invasions. The difference is that Argentina didn't learn it's lesson the first time.
So, we'll see what happens the next time.
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Mar 15th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So in summary...
Mar 15th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Iraq = Arentina
Kuwait = Falklands
Resources = Resources
so if these guys want cuba on board, and the americans refuse to entertain this idea, what then happens,
Mar 15th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does then the USA withdraw from this organisasion, and the OAS,
or just let cuba take part .
82 briton
Mar 15th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone GAF what Cuba does?
It is run by two old unreconstructed commie farts who are starting to lose control / realise the experitment of communism has failed world-wide.
Even the Chinese are acting like a psuedo advanced commercial coutry but with the threat of a massive army in reserve, just in case.
Does anyone GAF what Cuba does?
Mar 15th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nope .
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