Brown/ Cristina agree they have differences of opinion on Falklands/Malvinas

Sunday, March 29th 2009 - 16:56 UTC

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With a strong sense of dejà-vu ended the open agenda meeting Saturday morning between Argentine president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, which among other issues addressed the Argentine sovereignty claim over the Falklands/Malvinas. Read full article

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Jonathan Butler
Interesting, Argentina never listened or wanted to comply with the UN Resolutions in 1982, now they are telling the UK to take note of the Resolutions! The Falkland are British and have been for over 160 years. They should respect the wishes of the community in the Falklands and try to stop the poverty in their own own country before telling the UK how to run their own affairs.
Mar 29th, 2009 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pedro
Jonathan: Las Malvinas (bad known as Facklands) belong to Argentina, they are situated in Argentina's continental shelf and England seized them in 1833 (i.e many years after Argentine people has established there). Argentina's claim for sovereignty has not ceased since those years and the United Nations guarantee Argentine position. Nobody has doubt in that respect, England has always been one of the most violent colonialist countries in the world (e.g territories of South-Africa, Asia, America, etc).
Mar 30th, 2009 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Byron
The issue has been settled, the islands are British. Stop being sore losers and stop crying about the Falklands. We won the war, so why don't you guys just worry about making the terrain you do own better for all your people. You can say whatever you want about us, but the fact is that we will always be better off than you and you will always be part of the third-world. So there, how do you like that?
Mar 30th, 2009 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Monty
Oi Pedro, fight you for it. The Royal Marines and Parachute Regiment are always ready for round 2
Mar 30th, 2009 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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rigby, jimmy
you won the battle but not the war...Malvinas were, are and will always be Argentine !
Mar 31st, 2009 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Monty
Oh really? after 25 years without a shot fired the war is still on? pray tell me what flag is flying on the island at the moment? The British Union Jack. Like i said we're more than ready.
Mar 31st, 2009 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Marcos
The islanders should remember Diego Garcia. When Britain's government finds itself between a rock and a hard place economically speaking... they will barter a great deal for Argentine natural resources (which, obviously will be negative for Argentina, but no government of ours would pass on regaining the islands) in exchange for the islands, and relocate those who don't want to stay. You are three thousand, Diego Garcia were two thousand, not much difference. For the right price the americans have a wonderful military base there, don't they? Right now you are nothing but red numbers for Britain, keeping 2000+ strong and military aircraft there costs money... I give the situation no more than 20 years.
Mar 31st, 2009 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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juan
Invaders in Malvinas have repeated the same robotic phrase: “ The Self Determination ” since 1833. They think that they justify their ocupation repeting that. I live in Ushuaia (Tierra del Fuego & South Atlantic Islands Province) and we were a penal colony (like in Autralia) now we are a prosperous province with 120.000 inhabitants.... Ushuaia the capital, the southermost city in the world and the door of Antartica... Stanley dont exist with the British Ocupation !!!!! It is a colonial enclave in the XXI Century ! For the world Malvinas are forever ”Argentinian
Mar 31st, 2009 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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jorge
Why british people here is such ignorant about the matter??? Stop being arrogants. Those islands are ours and if the islanders don't want to be part of argentina then go to Britain! We(Argentinians) have to make things more difficult for people like Councillor Mike Summer and their bisness there and you(British) will see. There is too litle you can do without fallin in extra cost for british tax payers. I don't see you(Union Jack) in the future, so, do me a favor, GO AWAY RIGHT NOW!!!
Apr 01st, 2009 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Sorren
The MALVINAS were stolen from Argentina on the 2nd of January 1833.To you poms (the ignorant ones) just have a look at a world atlas where is The uk and where is Argentina ?what is Argentinas proximity to the islands? They are also located on the Mar Argentino on Argentinas continental shelf.But to the english like they have done in India,Pakistan,Scotland,Ireland (for over 600 years),South Africa, THe Maori wars etc etc every country you set foot on you created chaos and death!You are getting yours but in Iraq and Afghanistan you once used your colonies as canon fodder now you are the cannon fodder to the yanks!Hey Monty (you soap dodging pom) It“s 2-1 we smashed you both times you came to Argentina .Why don”t you fight without your colonial slaves and the yanks? why do you need arms embargoes? I“ll hit you twice and put you in your grave !Come to Argentina where I”m from you”ll leave in a body bag! LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS !!!!
Apr 02nd, 2009 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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monty
soap dodging pom??? hardly.
now correct me if i'm wrong but the last time the Royal Marines toured the Falklands we won, i think???
(i'm not talking about taking argentina, you can keep it!!)
and i certainly don't think there were any yanks getting their feet wet either.

by the way this:-

“I”ll hit you twice and put you in your grave !Come to Argentina where I“m from you”ll leave in a body bag!”

sheer quality - sounds like the frenzied scribblings of a really bad teenage rapper
Apr 02nd, 2009 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Marcos
Monty, I think you should stop arguing with a war mongering teenager from AR. We grown people in AR are here too to discuss seriously about this matter... you should not talk the way you do, war was a terrible event for a lot of people, in both sides. We do not want war again ever, a peaceful resolution will do. Yor RM stationed in the islands are costly and sooner or later will be removed from there, what do you think of that? Perhaps Britain is now involved in some other conflicts that require more attention than a defensive force... when there is basically no attacker. Argentina military forces are greatly diminished and there is a strong Democratic movement in Argentina... in which no party advocates for another forceful recovery of the Islands. I guess for the men there is obviously better than being sent to Afghanistan or Iraq for obvious reasons...
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Expat Kelper
Talking about soldiers leaving... and by the way only two Argentine civilian couples among the lot....not much of an expulsion of the civil population methinks....

Soldiers and Civilians who left Port Louis
on the Argentine Schooner Sarandí on 5 January 1833,
and the Prisoners sent to Buenos Aires by José María Pinedo
in the British Schooner Rapid on 1 January 1833

Lista de la Tropa, sus familias y Peones de la Isla de Malvinas,
que vienen de pasaje en la “Sarandí”
Capitan: D. Juan Antonio Gomila
Cabo I. Miguel Hernandez y su mujer Maria Romero
Soldados: José Barrera, José Gómez, Manuel Francisco Fernández, Toribio Montesuma

Batallon del Río de la Plata:
Sargento: Santiago Almandos
Soldados: José Soto, José Rodríguez

Patricios de Buenos Aires:
Soldados: Juan Castro y su mujer Manuela Navarro, Antonio García

Guardia Argentina:
Cabo: Daniel Molina
Soldados: Juan J. Rivas y su mujer María I. Beldaño, Dionisio Godoy, Hipólito Villarreal y su mujer Lucía Correa y dos hijos, Gregorio Durán y su mujer Carmen Manzanares, con dos hijos, Benito Vidal y su mujer Maria Saisa

Individuos de la Isla (no pertenecientes a la Comandancia militar):
Joaquín Acuña, su mujer Juana
Mateo González, su mujer Marica

Extranjeros: José Viel, Juan Quedy, Francisco Ferreyra
1 preso: Máximo Vbarnes (Warnes), que fué destinado

Mujeres pertenecientes a los militares que vienen presos
en la goleta inglesa “Rapid” y que vienen en dicha “Sarandí”
María Rodríguez, con tres hijos; Anastasia Romero; Encarnación Álvarez; Carmen Benítez; Tránsita González, con un hijo

Militares que venían presos en la goleta inglesa “Rapid”
Batallón de Artillería:
Soldado: José Antonio Díaz

Rio de la Plata:
Soldados: Manuel Delgado, Mariano Gadea, Manuel Suares

Patricios de Buenos Aires:
Cabo I: Francisco Ramírez
Soldados: Bernardino Cáceres, Manuel Sáenz Valiente, Antonio Moncada
Sargento 2: José María Díaz

y José María Pinedo (quien firma)
Buenos Aires, 16 de enero de 1833
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