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Image of Argentina’s patron Saint ready for final resting in Falklands
An image of Argentina’s patron saint, Our Lady of Lujan, which during the last five years was taken in peregrination all over the country, will be blessed this coming weekend at her sanctuary in Buenos Aires before been flown to be enshrined at the Darwin Argentine cemetery in the Falkland Islands, according to reports in the Argentine media. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“ the last piece of the Memorial to the fallen built in *our Islas Malvinas*”
Oct 02nd, 2009 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Erh - dream on. You will be a guest in anothers country not your own.
So far, the official name for the archipelago stands at Falkland-Malvinas Islands. They appear as simultaneously owned by two different countries, until the UN Decolonization Comission rules about it. Each of the two countries involved may claim ownership and treat the territories as theirs despite which is occupying it and which is not, albeit the inhabitants might try to obtain their full independence one day. Meanwhile, trying not to offend the other parties is, to my humble view, the best way to a peaceful solution.
Oct 03rd, 2009 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said Argie - your final sentence at least. We used to be able to deal with each other as neighbours under the “sovereighty umbrella” and it is a shame that current Argentina ditched that policy. The families come as guests into our country and we respect their need to visit. All we ask in return is that they respect the true international meaning of a war cemetery in another country and neither make nor wave any political statements or flags.
Oct 03rd, 2009 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0No offense to the islanders, they can stay if they want however Malvinas is part of Argentina and South America not UK nor Europe thousands of miles away, in another continent.
Oct 03rd, 2009 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No offence Marco, but the Falkland Islanders are the ones who make the decision, and if they decide to remain British then it's up to them, it's their choice and has nothing whatsoever to do with Argentina...
Oct 03rd, 2009 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argie,
Oct 03rd, 2009 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The official name is not Falkland-Malvinas Islands. This is simply a UN internal protocol by which the Islands are referred to in their official documents. The UN has no authority to rename any country, that is entirely a matter for the country's inhabitiants . The official name of the Islands is Falkland Islands as it is known by its own people.
Nor are they simultaneously owned by two different countries. They are owned by their own inhabitants. The UN does not rule on such matters to the best of my knowledge. It has simply asked the two disputing member states to resolve their differences regarding sovereignty and find a peaceful solution. Argentina's claim is therefore not recognised or supported by the UN at all. The UK for its part as the recognised administering country has devolved the decision regarding sovereignty to the inhabitants of the Falklands and leaves the final decision to them and is prepared to support whatever final decision they come to.
The Islanders make no running nor exacerbate the situation regarding the Argentine claim in any way, which is both agressive and predatory with no thought to any peaceful decision other than a surrender of sovereignty to Argentina.
Without Argentina pushing its claim peace and friendship would reign as you would seem to desire.
el problema principal es que Inglaterra usurpo las islas malvinas a la Argentina en 1833, desplazando a la comunidad argentina alli instalada, junto con su gobernador argentino Luis Vernet,esto fue como represalia por no haber podido tomar Buenos Aires en las invasiones inglesas de 1806 y 1807, por lo tanto no tienen titulos de propiedad sobre las islas las mantienen ocupadas por la fuerza , por lo que el Reino Unido se esta comprando un conflicto a perpetuidad ya que ninguna generacion de sudamericanos reconocera nunca que sean britanicas. Pero creo que hay que buscar una solucion pacifica a esto como lo fue la propuesta diplomatica durante la guerra de “LAS DOS BANDERAS” nosotros consideramos a los kelpers como hermanos y compatriotas ya que nacieron en suelo argentino
Oct 05th, 2009 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ariel, I think you need to re-study your history. They Islands were not Argentina's in 1833 any more than Neuquen, Rio Negro, Chubut, Santa Cruz and Tierra del Fuego. This is just Argentine government propaganda. The Argentine “community” you speak of was not kicked out. Only the officers were made to leave and most of the others remained, some of them well into the mid 1800s. If Luis Vernet was the Argentine governor, why did he ask the British resident in Bs As for permission to go to the Falklands?
Oct 05th, 2009 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You Argentines really have to get over the fact that the Falkland Islanders are the people who make the decisions. Their future is not Argentina's business.
The reality of the modern world and latin american nations will open your eyes. Since 1982 more countries are supporting our position, we got the support of russia recently, a member of the security council. Chinese maps show the islands with argentine names and those are practical measures not only words. Think about the chilean decision in 1999 regarding lan flights “we will resumpt the flights only with a stopover in argentina” they said and british wanted brazil or uruguay replace those flights and they refused to do it because of argentine claim. So you had no choice, it led to the july 1999 agreement. We can make more things like this, we just have to negotiate with our neighbours. This kind of measures will increase to perpetuity unless you do what you have to do. And the reality is that you live in a stolen land, everyone in the world know that but you although from the bottom of your being you know it as well. I know you'll say that it is argentine propaganda but you also say that the world don't believe or trust argentina. You're not coherent. There are also some commonwealth countries supporting us. We gained all this with patience and diplomacy and we can gain more in the future until uk had no choice to sit on the table to negotiate. We are optimists and move according to that optimism.
Oct 05th, 2009 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheers.
Ah the usual impotent Argentine rage about how they will force the British to negotiate and they will force the Falklanders to become Argentine against their will. That's about all you're good for, impotent rantings bullying a small island community, for an imagined claim because one of your ancestors once parked a tent in Britain's back garden.
Oct 05th, 2009 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patience and diplomacy? But refuse to speak to the islanders. You don't seem to realise that just because people mouth sympathetic platitudes because they want a trade deal, it doesn't translate into support.
Jorge, you are incorrect.Chile cut flights to the Islands as a protest to Pinochet,s arrest in UK. Only Then did Arg say it would not allow them to restart and overfly mainland Argentina until there was a new Agreement with UK. The monthly stopover in Argentina was purely for benefit of the families of those buries here - so they did not need to fly to Chile first. Before then they could only come on special RedCross flights.The 1999 Agreement was reached between a sensible reality Government in Argentina - both sides gave a bit and both sides gained a bit. A pity the same can not be said of the present Government you have.
Oct 06th, 2009 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Other countries and Chile have in recent years often asked to fly extra to here- but it is you who refuse to allow the overfly on mainland territory,not that they do not want to come.
We know the reality of international relations- countries side with each other at times for trade and other reasons, but when the chips are down and international principles are at stake then more serious decisions are made as to who you back or stay out of.
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