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Patagonian ports open to Chinese jiggers if they have no links with Falklands

Wednesday, January 27th 2010 - 11:21 UTC
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Argentine Fisheries Under-secretary Norberto Yauhar is sponsoring a fishing cooperation agreement with Beijing that will allow Chinese flagged vessels to enter Argentine ports for provisions, repairs, unloading catches and landing transfers. The only condition is that the Chinese vessels must not have commercial ties with the Falkland Islands government. Read full article

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  • Mike

    Another childish method in which Argentina attempts to stifle the Falkland Islands economy.

    Jan 28th, 2010 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chris

    And Argentina wonders why the Falkland Islanders want nothing to do with them. This will hurt Argentina - they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Argentina knows nothing of human rights - look at its history.

    Jan 28th, 2010 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • squidjiggeri

    Hi can anyone tell me if there catching squid in the falklands yet,and what price are they working for.

    Jan 28th, 2010 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    Well done Cristina! That's the way.

    Jan 28th, 2010 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander

    So far these acts have had little real effect, some companies work one side of the line others work the other side and its not hard for accountants and lawyers of international companies to keep their businesses legally seperate. What is of greater concern is Argentinas continual refusal to engage in joint scientific monitoring of stocks in the whole area to allow sensible conservation measures and sensible catch levels to achieve a long term sustainable industry for all. Their action on this almost certainly does them far more harm than us. As fisheries go down hill it is their ports that loose all the handling and processing jobs - not us.

    Jan 28th, 2010 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Well, the first good job of Cristina.. Maybe she is learning how handle diplomatically the territorial disputes.

    Jan 28th, 2010 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Good. Chile or Uruguay will get the business instead, it damages the Argentine economy and no one in the Falklands will notice. In Argentina fools will stand around and applaud Christina, no doubt the Falklands diversion will work it magic and she'll be re-elected only to mess the economy up further. I don't see a down side.

    Jan 29th, 2010 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    We have to go ahead slowly like the turtle improving our relationship with our neighbors and eventually we'll have a southamerican block. difficult process I know but it is working slowly.

    Jan 29th, 2010 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    well done Cristina!. Menem policy was useless!

    Jan 29th, 2010 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander

    Jorge,Nitrojuan, the worry is the future of YOUR fishery - now your scientists are not allowed to communicate with ours-scientist to scientist and NOTHING to do with politics- there is no joint pooling of information let alone any joint research monitoring cruises - and Arg, continues to issue Total catch Available Levels that are dangerously in excess of what scientist feel are the safe maximum levels to allow long term suvivability - why do you think there is already jobs lost end economic problems in some of your fishing ports? This situation will just get worde until there is nothing left to catch.
    The yes - the Islands will loose a bit of revenue - but your side will loose both that AND the several thousand shore side jobs.
    It appears to us that the Buenos Aires policy is “ To Hell with the Environment, To Hell with our own Fishing Industry and the Argentines that work in it on ships and ashore - if we can stuff the Islands Economy a bit - its worth ruining ourselves”!!! Are they all mad in Govt in B.A.?

    Jan 30th, 2010 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Luis

    Hi islander, i appreciate your consern about our fishing industry and jobs. Perhaps may be if this conflict end, this kind of desitions of fishing in the south atlantic could be more consensuated. So why dont you tell your government to resolve this sovereignty dispute sitting in the table of negotiation?.
    I guess when you said “our scientists” you refers to people who born in the north hemisphere, grew up there, studied there, and later became a “falklander” inmigrant, isnt it?. I guess at least that they have a “falkland” status.

    Jan 31st, 2010 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Usted debe conseguir una vida! Read our history, we are all immigrants from Galicia, Italy etc .. We were not even a country when people were inhabiting the Falklands. Argentina did not exist, when we decided to shoot and kill the indiginous people of South America, chopping their ears off for a small bounty to prove the kill. Now Argentina does exist we can't even run your own corrupt country!

    The Falkland Islanders are very happy people, getting on with life and making lots of close friends in Chile, Uruguay and Brazil. The economy is booming and us idiots do not realise how much the world resents our childish games. Through our ingnorance we are missing out on great love and friendship with the British people. We can lean so much from them. ¡Nuestra pérdida, no lo nuestro!

    Jan 31st, 2010 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Luis

    Marco, taking aside the fact that both languages used by you looks like a copy and paste from an internet translator, you first speak in first person as if you were an argentine, then you speak in third person so nobody can imagine from what point of view are you expresing those feelings.
    The only thing i can tell you is that nomatter how many nationalitys we have, if Argentina invade Manhattan, and plant our own population. We could not claim selfdetermination for those Argentines living there and should return its original population. Simple as that.

    Feb 01st, 2010 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • matias

    is true luis!

    Feb 01st, 2010 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    Marco, copiaste el mismo post desde el otro artículo. Que original que sos!
    I don't think you are an argentine and if you were one, I would say to you “tomate el palo flaco”.

    Feb 01st, 2010 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Expat Kelper

    Luis,

    To accept your argument we would have to accept that the Falklands belonged to Argentina by right in the first place.

    This is a completely debateable proposition and not at all a widely accepted fact.

    All the UN says is that you both claim the Islands, sort it under the rules and premises of the United Nations Charter and Resolutions. Nothing more nothing less.

    The Falklands and the UK are prepared to discuss all matters of mutual interest with Argentina under the Sovereignty Umbrella but because of Argentina's refusal to discuss anything other than a transfer of sovereignty they are getting on with developing the resources for the benefit of the inhabitants of the Islands and progressing at the desired pace agreed with Islanders towards implementing self-determination as laid down by the UN. As required this progress is reported to the UN on a
    regular basis without general dissent.

    It is Argentina dragging its feet in this matter, surely to its long term disadvantage

    Feb 01st, 2010 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Luis

    Expat, Its more simple than that. The UN recognize there is a colony in those islands, and a dispute for the sovereignty of that land. And is calling the two parts of the conflict, Argentina and the UK, to negotiate and solve the problem taking care the interest of inhabitants.
    So we are talking of a colonial situation, not who owned Uruguay or Chile.
    Expat, wake up the “falklands” and the uk is the same thing. and yes they are prepared to discuss all matters except sovereignty, becouse they are in a disputed land, So the goal of the british is to convince the argentine to drop their claim and legitimate the colony.
    And you are wrong, we want a transfer of sovereignty, but our goal is to negotiate sovereignty, which is different. The uk, after the war never showed disposition to talk.
    The colony is located in malvinas, so its normal that UN officials reports the conditions of the decolonization process from there and, like i said, the list of colony of the UN remains intact.

    Feb 02nd, 2010 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • islander

    Luis,actually some of our Fishery scientists are Islanders born here! Some are not, all have 20 years or more of experience in studying the South west Atlantic Fisheries so where they were born really is irrelevant!

    Feb 03rd, 2010 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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