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Argentina plans “insecurity” for Falklands oil exploration and is tracking the rig
The Argentine government is looking for mechanisms to sanction all those vessels that somehow have participated in the Falkland Islands oil exploration logistics. Operations are set to begin next week with the arrival of the “Ocean Guardian” oil rig. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnother pathetic and pointless outburst. I can't believe how the Argentine citizens can take their politicians seriously. This is an example of how to cut off your nose to spite your face and will undermine much needed economic activity for Argentina.
Feb 13th, 2010 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sñr Taiana in his stupidity has simply created a “framework of insecurity” for the already insecure Argentine economy. He is deluded if he thinks exploration for oil around the Falklands will stop because of his proposed measures. The only outcome is that owners will think twice about sending their ships to Argentina and companies like Tenaris will simply stop doing business there. The only silver lining I can see (for some) is that a few “enchufado” peronistas might get work building the registry and monitoring movements - that's called creating jobs al estilo Argentino - which explains why their economy is in a semi-permanent state of insecurity...
Feb 13th, 2010 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina once again turn to the Falkland Islands when their economy begins to slum.
Feb 13th, 2010 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They use “we own the Falklands” as a life line to stay in power. The Argentine people should be aware that Britain will not give it up and have increased security to a permenant garrison of 1000 soldiers and eurofighters.
Pathetic government. Instead of hirining expert lawyers, get a historian. Britain occupied the Falklands decades before they even got independance.
During WW1 Britain sent a fleet to destroy a German fleet near the Falklands who before being destroyed earlier won a RARE victory over the Royal Navy.
Argentina give up on your “claim”. You have none and stop giving hope to your people with pathetic lies.
argentina has a history of making grave errors of judgement dont make another be warned the british will hit back if provoked
Feb 14th, 2010 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Arentina should cash in on the support business needed to run an offshore drilling operation. Shore support would mean sales of diesel, fresh water, drilling chemicals many of which are produced in Argentina, logisistics, pipe, emergency services, stand by vessels, etc. An operation like the one about to take place could mean millions of pesos per day... Rather than stand back and rage against the loss of the war in 82, Argentina should be embracing the 21st century reality..
Feb 14th, 2010 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bubba, never understimate the ability of the Argentine Government to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They'd rather cut their nose off to spite their face.
Feb 14th, 2010 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shame really, there are great people in Argentina but they do have a knack of electing prats.
The issue is not as clear cut as some of you would lead us to believe. As an impartial observer, and having done much research on the topic, I believe that Argentina does have a legitimate claim to the islands. The UN seems to think so as well. I wouldn't underestimate Argentina's resolve in this matter.
Feb 14th, 2010 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good Article<br />
Feb 14th, 2010 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.falklands
So Argentina can explore for oil in the billions of barrels around Argentine waters but now greedily want British sovereign territory too? Just how bad is their economy? Why should they benefit from the years of research and analysis done by Desire and the British in this region? Why are they not concentrating on their own drilling and production, which if done right could boost their economy considerably - instead of minding the business of the Falklands? As for all this 'occupation' rubbish, what island, nation or continent is NOT the product of some historical occupation/colonialism/immigration anyway? Am I right in guessing the Spaniards illegally uptipped the native Argentines out of Argentina many moons ago, illegally crushing language and culture along the way? So how can they talk? Ridiculous. I hope Britain/the Falkland Island peoples every success. Good luck guys!
Feb 14th, 2010 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Steve, no, it's an old article wrtten by a highly dubious lefty followed by a bunch of comments taking him to task. And research all you want, the Falklands comes under the same UN principle to self-governance as anyone else.
Feb 14th, 2010 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quoting Gott? That is desperate.<br />
Feb 14th, 2010 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0<br />
Contrary to what Argentina seems to believe the UN has no interest whatsoever.
For now of on, Argentina's official name is the Republic of Che Idiots.
Feb 14th, 2010 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BY GOTT HE'S Right!!
Feb 15th, 2010 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.falklands
By Richard Gott
The Guardian, Monday 2 April 2007
Argentina's claim on the Falklands is still a good one
Nearly 40 years ago, in November 1968, I travelled to the Falklands with a group of diplomats in what was Britain's first and last attempt to get shot of the islands. Lord Chalfont, then a minister at the Foreign Office, was the leader of this expedition. He had the unenviable task of trying to persuade the 2,000 islanders that the British empire might not last for ever - and that they should start to entertain the notion they might be better off being friendly to their near-neighbour, Argentina, which had long claimed the islands. This was the moment when Britain was abandoning its “east of Suez” policy for financial reasons, and thinking of ways of winding up its residual empire. We had already forcibly deported the inhabitants of Diego Garcia in 1967 without much hostile publicity, and settled them in Mauritius and the Seychelles, handing over their islands to the Americans to build a gigantic air base. The Falklands were next on the list. Maybe the islanders could be paid to set up sheep farms in New Zealand.
Over 10 days, we visited just about every farm and homestead in the two principal islands. We were greeted everywhere - and we could see the slogans and the union flag from the air before we landed - with the same messages: “Chalfont Go Home” and sometimes “We Want To Stay British”. The islanders were adamant. They wanted nothing to do with Argentina, and Chalfont left them with a promise that nothing would happen without their agreement. Fourteen years later, in 1982, Britain and Argentina were at war over the islands, and nearly a thousand people lost their lives. Today we are invited to recall the 25th anniversary of that event, and the Argentinian government has reminded us of its claim, pulling out of the 1995 agreement about joint oil exploration that had been fondly embraced by the Foreign Office as an alternative to discussing anything as conflictive as sovereignty.
People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away, and because much of Latin America is now falling into the hands of the nationalist left, the government in Buenos Aires will enjoy growing rhetorical support in the continent (and indeed elsewhere, from the current government in Iraq, for example), to the increasing discomfiture of Britain. All governments in Argentina, of whatever stripe, will continue to claim the Malvinas, just as governments in Belgrade will always lay claim to Kosovo.
The Falklands were seized for Britain in January 1833 during an era of dramatic colonial expansion. Captain John Onslow of HMS Clio had instructions “to exercise the rights of sovereignty” over the islands, and he ordered the Argentinian commander to haul down his flag and withdraw his forces. Settlers from Argentina were replaced by those from Britain and elsewhere, notably Gibraltar. Britain and Argentina have disagreed ever since about the rights and wrongs of British occupation, and for much of the time the British authorities have been aware of the relative weakness of their case.
An item in the Public Record Office refers to a Foreign Office document of 1940 entitled “Offer made by His Majesty's government to reunify the Falkland Islands with Argentina and to agree to a lease-back”. Though its title survives, the document itself has been embargoed until 2015, although it may well exist in another archive. It was presumably an offer thrown out to the pro-German government of Argentina at the time, to keep them onside at a difficult moment in the war, though perhaps it was a draft or a jeu d'esprit dreamt up in the office.
The record suggests that successive UK governments have considered the British claim to the islands to be weak, and some have favoured negotiations. Recently released documents recall that James Callaghan, when foreign secretary in the 1970s, noted that “we must yield some ground and ... be prepared to discuss a lease-back arrangement”. The secretary of the cabinet pointed out that “there are many ways in which Argentina could act against us, including invasion of the islands ... and we are not in a position to reinforce and defend the islands as a long-term commitment. The alternative of standing firm and taking the consequences is accordingly not practicable.”
Of course, some people argue that Britain's physical possession of the islands, and its declared intention to hold them against all comers, makes its claim superior to Argentina's. Some believe that the Argentine invasion of the islands in 1982, and their subsequent forced retreat, in some way invalidates their original claim. Britain, above all, owes some debt to the heirs to the settlers who were originally sent there, a debt recognised in the Foreign Office mantra that, in all dealings with Argentina about the islands' future, the wishes of the islanders will be “paramount”. Yet no such debt was recognised in the case of the inhabitants of Diego Garcia, perhaps because Britain inherited them from the French rather than planting the settlers themselves.
Ironically, the Falkland islanders are the outcome of a 19th-century scheme of settlement not very different from the experience of Argentina in the same century, which brought in settlers from Italy, Germany, England and Wales, and planted them on land from which the native Indians had been cleared and exterminated. The record of the islanders looks rather cleaner by comparison. Yet the Argentinian claim is still a good one, and it will never go away. At some stage, sovereignty and lease-back will have to be on the agenda again, regardless of the wishes of the islanders. Ideally, the Falklands should be included in a wider post-colonial cleanup of ancient territories. This would rid Britain of responsibility for Northern Ireland (almost gone), Gibraltar (under discussion), and for Diego Garcia (de facto given to the Americans), and anywhere else that anyone can still remember.
This post-colonial policy should have been adopted many years ago (and perhaps Harold Wilson's government was groping towards this end in the 1960s when Denis Healey abandoned British commitments east of Suez, and when Chalfont was sent to Port Stanley), and it should at least have been considered when we abandoned Hong Kong in the 1990s. Yet the strength of Blair's imperial revivalism, forever echoed in the popular press, suggests that this prospect is as far away as it was in 1982.
• Richard Gott's latest book is Cuba: A New History (Yale University Press)
So, Cuba reverts to the US?? All of Latin America and the Phillipines to Spain, Brazil to Portugal, northern coast of Chile to Bolivia? Gott is just another self loathing post EU Brit.
Feb 15th, 2010 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0(#12 ) nicholas ! a citizen of the Atlantic Republic !
Feb 15th, 2010 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0he must be happy becouse he will be free from
volunteer soldierness in the real worlds !
Gott is full of it, I take it you don't know about his expenses paid for by the KGB.
Feb 15th, 2010 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0i feel certain that ** jason archibald &company** will be skillful
Feb 15th, 2010 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0for the Republic of England !!!
KGB agents should be sought around the England Universities,,pubs,,,...
Gott has Gott it wrong, (as he often does regarding the Falklands) there were no Argentine settlers in the Falklands in 1833 wh0 could possibly qualify for that title. They were all tied employees of Vernet who did his bidding or else. Vernet himself had not been there for a year and the whole Buenos Aires Republic (he founded his settlement in the name of the Buenos Aires Republic) idea of implanting a Colony (yes, that's what they called it) had collapsed in an inglorious heap. Nobody there in any event had lived there for in excess of three years. So much for the expulsion of the “inhabitants”!!<br /><br />
Feb 15th, 2010 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0<br /><br />
By most national laws this term would not even qualify anyone to apply for national status. At best they were Vernet's serfs and glad to escape his clutches. Those twenty odd who remained could not even get any money he owed them on the promissory notes he had issue in lieu of money. UK Parliamentary reports show that the British Government paid them what they were owed instead.
I've read with interst the articles in the press recently pertaining to the Falkland Islands, and the posts by readers of this forum.<br /><br /><br />
Feb 15th, 2010 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt everyone has their own opinion, it belongs to the UK, or it belongs to Argentina.<br /><br /><br />
I am a serving member of HM Forces,and have personally visited Diego Garcia, lived in Gibraltar and was posted to the Falkland Islands.<br /><br /><br />
Diewgo Garcia is not an American Island, it may have an American Base there, but it is part of B.I.O.T., British Indian Ocean Territories and is administered by the British Military. Gibraltar once again, has a long running history of conflict over ownership. The British previously occupied Majorca in the Maditerranean, but gave up this for the strategically placed Rock of Gibraltar, but the Spain has Ceuta across the straits, part of mainland Morrocco, but then you never hear much about that dispute.<br /><br /><br />
With regards the Falklands, the islanders have expressed a desire to stay British, I may be wrong, but I believe post the 1982 conflict the islanders were offerred finnancial incentives to relinquish British rule by the Argentines (a bribe) which they declined. Furthermore, I may be wrong again, but in 1833, the French had a claim, its been a few days since I read the article but wikipidia was very informative on the whole history of Argentina, and thats not clear cut either.<br /><br /><br />
I'll watch this dispute unfurl, but a comment above hit the nail on the head, rather than opose the expoloration of Oil in the region, Argentina should look to support it and reap the benifits for doing so with various support contacts that the Falklans are probably not best located or able to support. No one wants a repeat of 1982, Britain will never relinquish control unless thats what the islanders want, and I can's see that happenning.
If history is written by the winners,
Feb 17th, 2010 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0this means that there is another story:
the real story,
Who wants to hear let him hear.
We burn the words, we are silenced,
and the voice of the people will ever hear.
Needless to kill,
death proof
that life exists ...
While I do not mean to offend... I must say that this is one of the dumbest and most arrogant Argentine administrations I've seen in a while. Then again it is a permanent political-economy, where the sole purpose of the economy is to get politicians re-elected until the country defaults or re/devalues the currency again and again every 5 to 10 years.
Feb 17th, 2010 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0-They ban beef exports to bring the prices down a few pennies before an election and permanently lose many international contracts (which have gone to Uruguay and Brazil) and lose the FOREX they need to pay back their defaulted debts.
-They tax the hell out of the farmers in a drought.
-They lie about economic statistics until even the INDEC employees go on strike (not like any economists believe the statistics anyway - just go to a store and track the inflation yourself).
-The land thieving Kirchners continue to pose as heroes of the common man they professionally robbed as lawyers and continued to some how increase their personal wealth by millions while in office (wonder how they did that).
-They throw away the possibility of profit sharing on oil or supplying support services which would earn them hard currency.
I would go on.... but the Kirchners are just pathetic at handling the economy since they fired an economy minister who truly led the post 2001/2002 recovery and continue to steer away central bank presidents and capable employees.
You's think they were hired to personally assassinate the Argentine economy.
Does this couple really wake up on the same planet everyday?
-Marc
for all we see ; Marc compiled his knowledge from
Feb 17th, 2010 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo-Saxonphonic Media ..he wouldn't go on .
<<If history is written by the winners,
Feb 17th, 2010 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this means that there is another story:>> Of course that would be the (his)story of the loser.
<<George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four is a fictional account of the manipulation of the historical record for nationalist aims and manipulation of power. In the book, he wrote, “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.” The creation of a “national story” by way of management of the historical record is at the heart of the debate about history as propaganda. To some degree, all nations are active in the promotion of such “national stories,” with ethnicity, nationalism, gender, power, heroic figures, class considerations and important national events and trends all clashing and competing within the narrative.>>
<<With the number of Jefferson Davis highways vs the number of Abraham Lincoln highways, one would think that in fact the South won.>>
With the proliferation of places, airports, schools, districts and buildings renamed 'Islas Malvinas' in Argentina we see the reality of 'he who writes history' in splendid progress and if not a very edifying spectacle at least a spectacle of the manipulation of history Orwell style and the management of the historical record in full view.
Give us a break Maria and study your own history in detail before spouting on here.
please!! stop finding excuses !!!!! Argentina's economy that all the islanders arguments suggest that Argentina's economy has nothing to do??? the issue is the claim of sovereignty and continental shelf and protect our natural resources that exist there ... all the countries of the world regulate the use of territorial waters ....if so you could say they are alos English pirates, imperialists and their power is based on applying its power and domination over weaker countries .... is not that worse than having a bad economy?? greetings
Feb 17th, 2010 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0maria,
Feb 17th, 2010 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately Argentina's claim is just that...a claim, it has yet to be proven to have any real substance in international law.
The UK is a good friend in all respects and is no threat to Argentina or its proven legitimate resources, in fact it is Argentina that in recent years has carried out a military attack on the Falklands and subsequently pursued a policy of restaint of trade against the islands and now embraces also confrontation regarding legitimate island resouce development encouraged and legitimised by the UN. In the meantime Islanders make whatever alliances and arrangements necessary to defend themselves against your depredations.
In contrast the UK and the Falklands have shown their honesty and willingness to talk to you on all subjects of mutual interest and have done so and made agreements with you which you now cowardly eschew since 2007. The exception of course is that there will be no talks on a transfer of sovereignty to Argentina as this is definitely not what is called for in UN Resolutions; they simply call for a peaceful resolution to your sovereignty claim from which the dispute arises. So if you can come up with a sensible and realistic agenda for talks to solve the dispute maybe talks can begin. In the meantime if you want to delude yourself by believing your own nationalistic propaganda you will find yourself waiting forever. The Falklands has always managed to survive without your presence or assistance, or in spite of it, and will continue to do so.
England is open to dialogue?? think I lost a part !!!!! secondly what did the president of Argentina was to sign a decree requiring authorization to cross Argentine waters .... simply a decree ... .. while England already has ready soldiers and no more ..... it will not be much???? has! hopefully they find oil, because in a time when it ends this nonrenewable resource, I guess will be very cold to live on that island ....( PUMA certainly will go to some Caribbean countries)
Feb 17th, 2010 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In response to GDR.
Feb 17th, 2010 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GDR's statement:
“for all we see ; Marc compiled his knowledge from
Anglo-Saxonphonic Media ..he wouldn't go on .”
Actually... the majority of what I said I read in the Argentine media.
The Argentine statistical offices were forced to lie and protested accordingly.
I'm not even a UK citizen.
I've noticed the “brilliant” (more like the hijos de papa who contributed top the Kirchner campaigns) communications specialists of the Kirchner administration often come up with cheap and nationalistic comebacks... who do you work for?
Will you stop me from blogging with another media law?
-Marc
Why didn't the Monroe Doctrine kick in when Britain took the Islands in 1833 (was it 1833?) Regardless of Britains claim to the Islands their taking them back was in violation of the Monroe Doctrine, especially given the fact that Argentina claimed the Islands and had folks forcibly removed. It's not like Britain gave the Islanders Independence, it's been a British Colony ever since. The purpose of the Monroe Doctrine was to prevent European powers from colonizing in the Western Hemisphere, go figure. Argentina has been protesting ever since . I guess it's nice to have friends in high places (USA).
Feb 18th, 2010 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, what is wrong with Gott's article? Based on what I've read it looks historically acurate. For a Brit I think he does a good job of explaining the Argentine view of things. This issue is not that clear cut.
Feb 18th, 2010 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marc !!
Feb 18th, 2010 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0haven't you learn that all medias in all countries are ignorants, liers,stallers,distracters...their works on manipulations only !
if you are carefully then you can see have similair news !
for example !! in here Mercopress there are too many ,unnecessary,
Malvinas News (articles)which can't have knowledge values
we are stalking horses here !? i wish the Mercopress would be more qualfd.
1774 :: Brits withdrawal from colony
Feb 18th, 2010 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 01776 :: Brits leave plaque to assert claim on abondoned colony
1811 :: Spaniards withdraw from colony
1816 :: United Prov.of S.Amr' independence from Spain
1820 :: flag of Un.Pr.S.Amr(later Argentina) raised on islands
1828 :: Argentine settlements colony founded
1831 :: US warships destroy this settlements
1832 :: Argentina send a governor who killed in mutiny
1833 :: Brits return to islands again.....
Back in 1833, the US recognised the Falklands as British; ie the Monroe Doctrine didn't apply and the US didn't appreciate Argentine privateers seizing American ships.
Feb 18th, 2010 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is wrong with Gott's article? Its a load of crap, it advocates slinging the Falkland Islanders from their homes and its historically inaccurate.
Gaucho !! muy bien ..
Feb 18th, 2010 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tactics and shams are the same in today 's Iraq as like were in
1831--1832--1833......at the front lines wretched American kids(soldiers)
at back lines cunning British Companies ( BP,,,Shell,,.....etc)
and also as the “”same “”as in these forums :
at the front line --Chenney idiots-- American Poors like Nicholas..others
at the back line --sneaky ,arrogant-- Brits bees like Jason.Arch.Roberts...
My buddy ... GDR!!!
Feb 19th, 2010 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose it was ok as long as Clarin was toting the Kirchers' party line, but when it stopped...uh oh... new media law.
I doubt the whole world and even the Argentine media, INDEC, and the rest are all liars and the Kirchners' defenders of the truth?
I doubt the average Argentine when he buys groceries and sees the prices rising will believe the Kirchners' excuses? You can only use that damned “extranero” excuse so often.
-Marc
Mark !!
Feb 19th, 2010 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0please don't ignore “” the intelligent secret services “” !
don't make obsession on Kirchners !
Economy Indicators should be discussed at technical debates !
i look at - all- daily technical web-sites..they know nothing !
.....“The only outcome is that owners will think twice about sending their ships to Argentina and companies like Tenaris will simply stop doing business there”....
Feb 19th, 2010 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tenaris is an argentine company and it has its roots here. It won't stop doing business here. Today, Feb 19th, its owner is in a meeting with Kirchners and other businessman. Your news are not accurate or not up-dated. Get informed!!!!
.....“Pathetic government. Instead of hirining expert lawyers, get a historian. Britain occupied the Falklands decades before they even got independance.”....
get a historian????? like Justin Kuntz???? ROFL. Just let him take the place of J.A. Roberts who seems to be vacationing.
Someone said.....“I hope Britain/the Falkland Island peoples every success.”....
I hope exact the opposite!
.....“For now of on, Argentina's official name is the Republic of Che Idiots.”...
Nicholas (gay in the closet), why don't you take care of your shitty country instead of talking your usual crap, you idiot???
Pay attention all of you anti-Kirchner idiots. In 2011 we'll have another goverment, in 2015 another one, in 2019 another one and so forth. All of them will claim Malvinas. What are you gonna say in 2025??? Mr. xxxxxx goverment is in low rating regarding pools and that's why he/she does what he/she does???
I'm disappointed. I thought you were a little bit more intelligent. Reality shows you are not.
Right, the drilling rig left months ago and Argentina said nothing. Its been planned for years.
Feb 20th, 2010 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet with inflation nudging 30%, the controversy over the use of bank reserves to pay debts, the forcing out of the Bank chief and all of a sudden the issue comes top of the agenda.
Grow up.
Hmm Jorge, Tenaris is registered in Luxembourg no? And it's roots are a lot more Italian than Argentine... anyway I said “companies LIKE Tenaris”... If Argentina makes things too complicated for companies LIKE Tenaris they will simply take their business elsewhere. Even a Economics 101 student could predict such an outcome.
Feb 20th, 2010 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm Archibalito querido, you are wrong again. Tenaris belongs to Techint group. It was founded by an italian engineer called Agostino Roca and he emigrated to Argentina and inmediatly placed placed his company here. This company grew a lot here and bought others companys here in Argentina and others latam countries. They are now “Techint Group”. It's an argentine group
Feb 22nd, 2010 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the history lesson Jorgito but you even say it yourself: Agostino Rocca (two c's by the way) was Italian. So surely Techint can't have Argentine roots, unless of course they were Italian roots “implanted” in Argentina? I thought Techint was first founded in Milan anyway...
Feb 22nd, 2010 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....“So surely Techint can't have Argentine roots, unless of course they were Italian roots “implanted” in Argentina? I thought Techint was first founded in Milan anyway...”.....
Feb 22nd, 2010 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes they have their roots here. Techint was nothing in Italy and it had a very short live there. It grew here. Its owner is Paolo Roca, he is argentine and lives here. Get informed.
Jorge, I see my little “implated” jibe flew right over the top of your head.
Feb 22nd, 2010 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paolo Rocca (Two c's), “he is argentine” - after only two generations? And the Falkland Islanders after 9 generations are still “implanted”... double standards I think.
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