MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Mrs. Kirchner vows to lead “profound, cultural, diplomatic battle” to regain Malvinas
Argentine President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner at the opening Tuesday of a photographic exhibition honouring the Malvinas women vowed before to lead “a profound, cultural, diplomatic and political battle on every front,” and to make use of “every resource made available by international law to regain the Malvinas Islands sovereignty.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYes, April 2 is a day to remember a sad event, but it is also a day for optimism!
Mar 30th, 2010 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will keep the phrase “”it is worth while fighting for what belongs to us, and no matter how powerful the adversary is, if on our side is the truth, reason and justice“”.
Yes Jorge, April 2 is a day of sadness for all, remembering and commemorating all those who lost ther lives for a cause. It is a day of reflection, the reason for looking optimistically into the future and that it will never happen again.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Instead of believing to fight for something that belongs to you, how about defending your beliefs, way of life and integrity? How about recognising and coexisting with your fellow human beings?
Mar 31st, 2010 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Things must be bad in Argentina if she's banging on about the Falklands this much. Wonder if she'll be able to sell those bonds?
Mar 31st, 2010 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge wrote “I will keep the phrase “”it is worth while fighting for what belongs to us, and no matter how powerful the adversary is, if on our side is the truth, reason and justice“”.”
Mar 31st, 2010 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The most important word in your post above is 'IF' - the fact of the matter is that, in reference to the Falkland Islands, truth, reason and justice are NOT on your side and only a fool would say that they are.
I heard Mrs. Kirchner speaking on Argentine TV and she did say very clearly that the Islanders should in no way fear about their welfare or way of life. She recognised that they have been in the Falklands for generations implying that they have full rights to their way of life. The issues are becoming clearer all the time. Argentina woud be prepared to recognise full rights to the Islanders on their land but wants to contest the exploitation of resources far beyond those borders as is happening with oil resources. I am all for negotiations as Argentina now seems to be offering full guarantees to the Islandres. . I am surprised that Mercopress seems to have missed out on that part of the Argentine President´s speech.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“woud be prepared to recognise full rights to the Islanders on THEIR land”
Mar 31st, 2010 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's nice of her.
There is nothing to negotiate Same,
Mar 31st, 2010 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina recognised the Islanders' rights enshrined in international law she would be forced to drop her claim.
You can read what you want into the Argentine recognition of the Islanders' “way of life” - it's even included in that odious provision in the latest constitution - but it is completely meaningless.
Progress is progress and it is significant that Argentina begins to spell out what a possible solution to the South Atlantic soveignity conflict would look like. I have the impression that Argentina is into a development curve not unlike Brazil. It has had an important GDP growth over the last few years so that it would be a superficial reading to think that it is engaging in the Falklands issue because of a supposed crisis at home. The most reasonable response for UK and the Islanders would be to negotiate. To pretend there is no problem is to hide ones head in the sand.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a problem but it is Argentinas problem. The Falklanders and the UK have no problem with the status of the Falkland Islands regardless of all the tiresome yapping coming from Kirchner.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Same, the Argentine position has not changed in years. What is being said now is nothing new. The “way of life” thing is been in the Argentine constitution since 1994. If anyone has their heads in the sand it is Argentina who refuse to recognise the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is there to negotiate?
Same “The most reasonable response for UK and the Islanders would be to negotiate. To pretend there is no problem is to hide ones head in the sand.”
Mar 31st, 2010 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argenitina would never negotiate with the Islanders because to do so would be to recognise their rights to Self Determination. Argentina only wants to negotiate with the UK, and the UK can't negotiate for the Islanders without their permission as they are a self governing territory and to do so would be illegal under UK law.
Same - just because Argentina claims the Falklands doesn't make that claim legitimate. Given that it is a spurious claim, why should the UK and the FIG give into it? Simply saying, by Argentina, that the Falklands are Argentine doesn't make it a factual statement. Their claim has no validity and therefore there is nothing to discuss. It would be like you being forced to sit down and give away your house just because I laid claim to it - even though my claim had no legitimacy. Would you think it fair if you were forced to surrender your house to me just because I said it was mine? Would you feel it OK if, whilst taking your house, people said - but he will still allow you to live in it. This would be the position you would be putting the Falkland Islanders. Argentina has ZERO claim to the Falklands - remember also that Argentina is a country that was built upon land forcefully taken from its indigenous population. Look up the Conquest of the Desert. Argentina is trying to force a colonial situation upon the Islands and that is immoral.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 globetrotter, I'm doing that. Why don't you tell them to forget colonialism and comply with UN mandates?!?!?!
Mar 31st, 2010 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas was/is/will be part of Argentina. You won't succed pirates!!!!
Mar 31st, 2010 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the crazy Hebe de Bonafini says....“”vayamos calentando el aceite“”......
Jorge wrote “Christopher UK, f**king pirate!!! I told you not to talk about me. BTW, your wife next to me told me to tell you she will be late tonight!”
Mar 31st, 2010 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear - Jorge reacts in his usual infantile manner. It is to be expected - the silly boy has been bested so often he has nothing left to offer but insults. I put it down to his impotence - which is common knowledge. I pity you Jorge.
Jorge wrote in impotent rage “Malvinas was/is/will be part of Argentina. You won't succed pirates!!!!”
Mar 31st, 2010 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only pirates, in regard to the Falklands, are Argentinean. Stop crying like a child Jorge - you are an embarressment to your country.
Oh dear, dear, Oh dear. As ever - Jorge proves just how stupid he is. Your envy is your own concern. By the way - you haven't been able to put your silly little flag on our Islands and keep it there and you never will. You are pathetic LOL. What a silly little boy you are - I really do pity you. I will set up a charity to buy you a clue;-)
Mar 31st, 2010 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Watch them, your people, your country!
Mar 31st, 2010 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you too embarrased aren't you Jennifer?!?!?!
What do you think about those videos Susan??!!??
They were not made by argentineans but british, weren't they Mary?!?!?
Jorge wrote in a fit of impotent rage “Our flag will be there again and I'll clean my ass with yours.”
Mar 31st, 2010 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you will slime boy - of course you will.
Not going well for you though, is it Jorge.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really do need to stop listening to those voices in your head Jorge. Do something useful with your life for once...end it. I'm sure you won't be missed, sonny;-)
Mar 31st, 2010 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a wonderful place Argieland must be. That is if you ignore the corruption, fraud, crime and the plastic president;-) No wonder the ugly fool is trying to divert attention away by trying to bully the Falklands.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WatH0ycfTrM
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Oh dear - this explains why Jorge is so mad.
Mar 31st, 2010 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJmcU-kwMM&NR=1
“Argentina has more psychiatrists per person than any other nation in the world. And Argetines seem more than happy to make use of them.”
When is your next appointment Jorge? Tell them that you want your money back as they have failed you;-)
You have to be more original Christine. Don't do what I do. I know, I know, from the bottom of your being, you admire me. LOL
Mar 31st, 2010 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know what your biggest mistake is??? Confussing being a powerful country with your national athem (Rule britania, rule the the waves). That is in the past my friend. You are always underestimating other nations around the world and sometimes you get a bloody nose. Remember you celebrated the sunk of Belgrano and one of your foreign office officials said we were monkeys and Britain didn't need weapons to fight us.
Apr 01st, 2010 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just to remind you,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4
Never, never again underestimate another nation you consider smaller or less developed than yours!!!!!!!
Jorge, your macho insults, cuckold, wife sitting next to you, etc... literally have no effect in our culture, except to laugh in amusement. I'm not sure if it's your age or the macho part of latino culture. Please keep us laughing at your silly insults. And please be more funny.
Apr 01st, 2010 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0.....“Jorge, your macho insults, cuckold, wife sitting next to you, etc... literally have no effect in our culture, except to laugh in amusement. I'm not sure if it's your age or the macho part of latino culture. Please keep us laughing at your silly insults. And please be more funny.”....
Apr 01st, 2010 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0- I will try, but don't get confused, I learnt those insults from the british and americans.
To say there is no dispute between UK, FIG and Argentina about sovereignity in the South Atlantic is a denial of history and reality. The so called right to self determination by FIG in no way implies laying claim to whatever resource comes to mind. International law recognises the problem and that is the sense of UN resolutions calling for a negotiated solution. Insulting one another gets nowhere. The UK should also listen to English speaking people in Argentina, the majority British, who want a reasonable solution.
Apr 01st, 2010 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Same, self determination for the Falkland Islanders is not a “so called” right. It is clearly and unambiguously enshrined in international law, the UN Charter and several UN Security Council and General Assembly Resolutions - some of them specifically referring to the Falkland Islands. The Resolutions which call upon the UK and Argentina to resolve their differences regarding sovereignty ALL reference the right to self determination. Argentina is simply ignoring her responsibility to recognise that right.
Apr 01st, 2010 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's long-standing position is that it will only negotiate the transfer of sovereignty. How can that be reasonable? The most reasonable solution would be for Argentina to drop her irredentist claim. And why should the UK listen to English-speaking Argentines any more than German-speaking, Italian-speaking or Spanish-speaking Argentines? If you want this problem to go away then why not lobby your government to understand its international obligations and recognise the Islanders rights?
Jorge, the British national anthem is not “Rule Britannia”. Please get your facts right.
Apr 01st, 2010 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amusing video Christopher UK. More telling than the psychiatrists per capita was the hair-dressers per capita, that and the amount of “work” Christina Fdz has had on her face makes you wonder about national priorities...
Apr 01st, 2010 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0J.A.Roberts wrote “Amusing video Christopher UK. More telling than the psychiatrists per capita was the hair-dressers per capita, that and the amount of “work” Christina Fdz has had on her face makes you wonder about national priorities...”
Apr 01st, 2010 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed - though, from looking at the results on her face, it seems that their doctors are as good as their economists;-)
Jorge ejaculated “Never, never again underestimate another nation you consider smaller or less developed than yours!!!!!!!”
Apr 01st, 2010 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remind me again - who won the Falklands War? Oh yes...
So will she be leading this great struggle after she is ejected from office? I seem to remember some years ago:
Apr 01st, 2010 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/1522729/Argentina-renews-campaign-over-Falklands-claim.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/1522729/Argentina-renews-campaign-over-Falklands-claim.html
You See Argentina is all thunder but no Lightning, her words are nearly as impotent as her actions!
........“The most reasonable solution would be for Argentina to drop her irredentist claim.”.....
Apr 01st, 2010 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- The above was said by an unreasonable person.
Tell me then, I don't know what f*cking song is that. But sure I am that all of you sing it.
......“Remind me again - who won the Falklands War? Oh yes...”.....
- At what cost???? When you say “Oh yes...”, are you ejaculating like the british guy videotaping the abuse in Irak?
You know what the difference is between your videos and mines???
You cannot show Argentina invading other countries, torturing other societys or stealing their resources. I can show plenty of that about the british.
comment 35 from the repulsive insect is not worth replying.
Jorge “You know what the difference is between your videos and mines??? You cannot show Argentina invading other countries, torturing other societys or stealing their resources. I can show plenty of that about the british. comment 35 from the repulsive insect is not worth replying.”
Apr 01st, 2010 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you heard of the saying “People in glass house shouldn't throw stones”?
Yes there are unpleasant things in the history of Great Britain, but no more unpleasant than what the people of your country did to its indigeonous population. I'm sure if there were cameras back then the film would make for uncomfortable watching.
As for invading other countries - Argentina has wared with most of it's neighbours at one put or the other in it's short history so I fail to see how you can claim any high ground there.
Plus you invaded another country in 1982.
Exactly LegionNi, not the mention the unspeakable things Argentina did to its own people. Throwing them alive out of aircraft into the Rio de la Plata etc, etc.
Apr 01st, 2010 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha Jigaboo, so my evidence of succesive Argentine govts inaction on this issue stands then!
Apr 01st, 2010 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Truly the great leader and the people thunder, bellow and howl, but no lightning emerges... pretty much the story for the last 180 years even 1982 was a damp squib to say the least!
lol pawned by Rasta Bob MArley Craughwell the roach again! Now I'm hopping back into my flying pot to smoke some good reefer, cheerio jigaboo good luck with the councilling!
.......“Have you heard of the saying “People in glass house shouldn't throw stones”?”.........
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0- Yes I have and that applies perfectly to you.
........“Yes there are unpleasant things in the history of Great Britain, but no more unpleasant than what the people of your country did to its indigeonous population.”........
- No more unpleasant??? Really???
What you did to indigenous populations around the world was 100 times worst!!!!!! And remember, you did it around the world!
How could you compare that to the genocide of Roca????
Roca killed less than 100000 people while you killed millions around the world and still doing it in Afghanistan and in Iran any time soon?
Wait!!!!!.......... I know this is not a matter of quantities, one person is as important as 100000, but how could you say that your genocide wasn't more unpleasant?!?!?! That's ridiculous, incorrect and disrespectful with the history of the world!.
......“I'm sure if there were cameras back then the film would make for uncomfortable watching.”........
- I agree, but there are cameras now. You can see what you did in Irak and still doing in afghanistan, there is plenty of videos on the net. Is that uncomfortable watching for you????
So........ you are right saying “”People in glass house shouldn't throw stones“”.
.........“As for invading other countries - Argentina has wared with most of it's neighbours at one put or the other in it's short history so I fail to see how you can claim any high ground there.”........
- Argentina did not invade another country and you are wrong (again) blaming only Argentina for problems in the borders when those were standars at the time in the whole south America.
Didn't you know that Chile invaded Peru and Bolivia and took over their terretories. Didn't you know that Bolivia and Paraguay went to war over their borders???
.........“Plus you invaded another country in 1982.”.........
- Not even you believe that! You know that's not true!
.......“Exactly LegionNi, not the mention the unspeakable things Argentina did to its own people. Throwing them alive out of aircraft into the Rio de la Plata etc, etc.”........
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0- What the dictatorship did to argentines is none of your business!!!!
The dictatorship didn't do it to british or any other societies around the world as your country did, so that STAY OUT OF THAT!
.......“lol pawned by Rasta Bob MArley Craughwell the roach again! Now I'm hopping back into my flying pot to smoke some good reefer, cheerio jigaboo good luck with the councilling!”........
- OMG!!!!!!!!! You have no turning back! I'm so sorry!
Oh, what the dictatorship did is none of our business? Well the dictatorship invaded the Falklands so perhaps it is. Also you don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to the treatment of others. Britain does not have a stellar record, but then nor do you. Right from the Conquest of the Desert, more recently with episodes such as the Napalpi Massacre and then the dictatorship. If you treat your own people like you did during the dictatorship, then what chances are there of you treating anyone else fairly...
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge youve got more faces than plastic face! Estas falso, muy falso.
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0What the dictatorship did to argentines is none of your business!!!!
The dictatorship didn't do it to british or any other societies around the world as your country did, so that STAY OUT OF THAT!
Nowhere on this earth did Britain ever commit genocide on a people...by contrast your dictators made sure that members of my family got one way plane tickets into Dique san roque! Just make sure you and I never meet because as sure as eggs are eggs, I'll give you the third eye treatment you deserve.
@ Christopher UK
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are really a case. Do you?
The links you’ve provided as your proof of what would be how you said... Ah Yes “Argieland” was a video made in 2001 during the financial crisis and the collapse of the Argentina’s economy by a left win politician film maker to show his point about how bad is capitalism.
Thing that you will understand quickly if UK continues in the current path to collapse.
Because UK is in the stage of Argentina 1989 I mean before the collapse.
If the collapse happen knowing UK you will have riots in the streets and people killing each other for a piece of bread.
I really hope you don’t have to experience this really.
Take a look of how UK without the entire collapse of it economy the social problems had started.
Young gangsters killing each other in the streets of Brixton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH0LUt8R2k&feature=fvw
Anyway to avoid you to end up in one of these videos as “The Stupid British of the year” please see videos below for more information...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH0LUt8R2k&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH0LUt8R2k&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH0LUt8R2k&feature=fvw
I would take the time to explain you how wrong you are about Argentina.
Because ignorance mixed with arrogance is bad cocktail to make a huge mistake.
Especially with your macho man attitude expressed like “who won the Falklands War?”
You didn’t won a war just a battle that’s all the score is still 2 Argies 1 Brits. Like in football UK is always begin Argentina.
Remembers always this, a war against Argentina would not be a picnic or free of consequences for UK and the Islanders you can loose. Or even worse the conflict can escalate in the region with the intervention of countries like Venezuela hungry for a show up of its military power.
And believe me a good stock of Russian weapons is in the hands of Venezuela and the Russians also will be very glad to supply Argentina any time.
Having made clear just in case your
To Mecopress: This system is really a crap.
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having made clear the situation, just in case you are dreaming with a war please try to think again in what kind of scenario UK and the Islander will be in.
Next positives things so you can educate yourself a little bit.
To whom concern
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is the problem guys if “Same” wants to express Her/His point of view as a start to understand each other?
Will not harm, She/He will not loose any right, none here has power to take any action or decision pro or against Her/Him (sorry but I am not sure about your gender) or use what she/he says as a proof of anything.
This is very silly grow up fellows what are you afraid of?
Anyway for those like me that see that insulting each other will not contribute to nothing positive I will try to show you the normal Argentina that I see every day here in Buenos Aires (Sorry but is where I live now what can I do?)
Argentines are tolerant people and a multicultural society with a lot interest in others cultures, music, dance sports, travelling, friendship and all these kind of things that make life a wonderful thing.
Religion is no a issue in Argentina you can profess freely whatever you like and in fact Argentinean really don’t pay to much attention to that. Many express themselves as a catholic but I really doubt that they have been more than 2 times in a church in their entire life is more to have something to believe.
As the majority of Argentinean around 97% (according with statistics) are descendents of someone that came here from another country the majority from Europe and more recently from neighboring countries, diversity is part of the landscape.
The say that Argentineans are a monolithic Spanish culture is another lie. Argentina has influence from several countries and you can appreciate that in its architecture and its cuisine. Older part seem a Spanish period domination, then French/Italian (palace and building) British bridges and railways system with stations looking like French. The food is amazing from all over the world. Germans also are a big community and Celts. A lot of Chilean, Uruguayans, Bolivians, Brazilians and Paraguayan live in Argentina too.
So this is the Argentina I see every day in my case Buenos Aires with the same problems that have any huge city like Buenos Aires in any part of the world. But is far more secure than New York and London you can walk 4 am for the streets in the center without problem.
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The City of Buenos Aires
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Culture and dances
Trance
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Metal
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Classic Colon Theatre
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Tango
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Celtics
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Japanese
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Italian
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Bazilian
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German
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Spanish
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Indigenous /Argentinean coun
Jorge ejaculated “You know what the difference is between your videos and mines???
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You cannot show Argentina invading other countries, torturing other societys or stealing their resources.”
Oh dear, touched a nerve have we. Look to your own history you silly boy. You do make me laugh - not with you of course, but at you.
@ MarceloSKL
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at back at your dear friend Jorge's posts and then you will have an understanding as to why he gets the responses he does. They are made in kind and then only after having tried to reason with him for months. He gets what he deserves.
In reality - we Brits enjoy a lot of Argentinean culture. In fact there is to be a festival in July at Kings Place in London. This concert is but part of that festival celebrating Argentinean culture. Those that are due to march against the UK today in Argentina might care to see just how fair we are towards your country.
http://www.kingsplace.co.uk/music/weekly-themes/the-four-seasons-of-buenos-aires
Indigenous /Argentinean country folk
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZfslDVxUO0&feature=related
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@Mercopress
You have a serious problem here, with your javascript:
You need a boolean expression or a conditional expression with a sentence telling to your script to stop the summit in case the characters exceed the value 2000 and a alert telling “you have exceed the characters allows downsize your message please”. :)
@Christopher UK
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So I was writing all this for nothing? Bloody bad boys. ha ha.
I was close to smash my head on the wall,
You are good guys after all. Can you see? haha
Why we don't promote a chicas exchange as my American friend always says in his strange Spanghish.
This is culture also and we can reaffirm our fraternity while Gordon Brown and Cristina can resolve if they are going to address the Falkland/Malvinas Issue with Champange of fireworks?
Our possible postulants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q89Z8aIvMGU
I will see in the next oil drilling I guess or 2 of April.
regards,
@ MarceloSKL
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That video has done wonders for my blood pressure;-) I would love to have some of those ladies in my studio. When can such a 'cultural exchange be arranged;-)))))))
Jorge .........“Plus you invaded another country in 1982.”.........
Apr 02nd, 2010 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Not even you believe that! You know that's not true!
No your actually telling me what I believe, your arrogance truely knows no bonds. Just to clarify YES I truely believe you invaded British sovereign territory in 1982.
Jihad Jorge is a supporter of terrorism - that is now an incontrovertible fact as he has just said so in the Mercopress forums. He supports the actions of Al Quadia and has said so this very day! What a pathetic little worm he is. His responses will be as expected.....
Apr 03rd, 2010 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0AFTER 28 YEARS.
Apr 03rd, 2010 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all these years, what most us feel is such a great sadness, it's not easy to assimilate yet what happened in 1982, that day changed for good the destiny of argentina and the islands's.
It's not easy to recognize that if the war woulden't have happened, my country woulden't have recovered the democracy so soon, and the islands wouden't be so prosperous like they are now.
That repugnant dictatorship played in such a corrupter and perverse way with the wish of recovering the malvinas-falklands, that idea has allways been in the minds of most argentines, and now in the same perverse and corrupter way, the british press is shaking the ghost of a new invation by argentina, anyway i think that the islanders are not going to be so idiot and ignorant to beleive that.
The balance of all these years has many dark and clear sides, our country is totally diferent than it was in 1982, we have many debts with our people, but the democracy is the only one way to govern and live, i am sure that before i die, we will find a fair solution for to the coflict, i'm 28 years old, i'm young, i have a lot to live yet, and maybe i see changes between both sides to improve our situation.
..........“If you treat your own people like you did during the dictatorship, then what chances are there of you treating anyone else fairly...”......
Apr 04th, 2010 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0- We don't have a dictatorship anymore and I bet my life we won't have in future!!!!!!!!
......“Jorge youve got more faces than plastic face! Estas falso, muy falso.”.....
- You have to brush up your spanish my friend.
.......“Nowhere on this earth did Britain ever commit genocide on a people...by contrast your dictators made sure that members of my family got one way plane tickets into Dique san roque! Just make sure you and I never meet because as sure as eggs are eggs, I'll give you the third eye treatment you deserve.”.....
- My city of residence: Comodoro Rivadavia, Provincia del Chubut.
My Adress: Emilio Frei 457.
My University: Universidad Nacional de la Patagonia San Juan Bosco.
Some times I'm in my parents house.
My parant's city of residence: Caleta Olivia, Provincia de Santa Cruz.
My parents house adress: Chacabuco 2112.
With that information you can find me. I will be waiting for you to come over and give me that treaty I desserve. You will know that sometimes you better shut up!!!
.......“Oh dear, touched a nerve have we. Look to your own history you silly boy. You do make me laugh - not with you of course, but at you.”....
- Would you please provide a youtube link so that I can see it????
You make me laugh! If I make you laugh, then that is good, laughing is good.
.......“Look at back at your dear friend Jorge's posts and then you will have an understanding as to why he gets the responses he does. They are made in kind and then only after having tried to reason with him for months. He gets what he deserves.”........
- Are you trying to justificate your ignorance about Argentina, you little boy????
......“No your actually telling me what I believe, your arrogance truely knows no bonds. Just to clarify YES I truely believe you invaded British sovereign territory in 1982.”.........
- Ignorant!
.....“Jihad Jorge is a supporter of terrorism - that is now an incontrovertible fact as he has just said so in the Mercopress forums. He supports the actions of Al Quadia and has said so this very day! What a pathetic little worm he is. His responses will be as expected.....”.....
Apr 04th, 2010 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0- LOL Truth hurts you. You invented Al-Qaeda, you deal with it now.
Again, LOL.
Oh I forgot, Globetrotter said “”Estas falso, muy falso“”.
Apr 04th, 2010 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it too difficult for english speaking people to translate the verb “to be”?????
Yeah I know it is also difficult for us to say “I'm 27 years old” and not “ I have 27 years old”. That verb “to be” which has two meanings in spanish (ser ó estar) is a big problem. The use you made of it has showed me you are not an argentinean as you wanted to make me believe the other day saying I am your countryman.
Very predictable you know?!?!?! Verb “to be” always gives yourself away, two meanings in spanish, which one to use??? Only a very good spanish speaker could decide without hesitation.
Apr 04th, 2010 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh I forgot again, too much beer this saturday night.
Apr 04th, 2010 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Christine, you won't have those women on the videos, you better keep your old ugly Tatcher. ROFLMFAO
Jorge! - ” ... I will keep the phrase “”it is worth while fighting for what belongs to us, and no matter how powerful the adversary is, if on our side is the truth, reason and justice“”. ....
Apr 04th, 2010 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0but is it jorgy boy, is it?? What if your historians only provide a biased view of history, what if your politicians tell you lies, what if the international community thinks that independence is 'reasonable' and what if justice dictates that the islanders be the ones to determine their own future? What then jorgy boy? What then?
Jihad Jorge ejaculated “Christine, you won't have those women on the videos, you better keep your old ugly Tatcher. ROFLMFAO”
Apr 04th, 2010 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0If only you knew what I did for a living LOL. You are a loser sonny.
Jihad Jorge wrote “Oh I forgot again, too much beer this saturday night.”
Apr 04th, 2010 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really need to stop posting whilst under the influence of alcohol. Though that alone will not mitigate your stupidity.
......“If only you knew what I did for a living LOL. You are a loser sonny.”.....
Apr 04th, 2010 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Well, I don't know. Full Monthy???? LOL
........“You really need to stop posting whilst under the influence of alcohol. Though that alone will not mitigate your stupidity.”.....
- Maybe, but that only occurs when there is a very long weekend like this one when everybody get out of here.
If you want to know about Jorge and his cuckold insults, ask him about his mum. Thoughtful lady, that she is. Keeping up the morale of the troops like that.
Apr 05th, 2010 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Justin, what hapened to you???? Did I insult your mother??? Then you are gonna say that I'm the one who starts with the insults! Be carefull!!!
Apr 05th, 2010 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge. You insulted evey victim of Al-Qaeda and describe the deaths of those on 9/11 (including the Argentines) as collateral damage. You take the biscuit in the insult stakes.
Apr 05th, 2010 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW your president apears to be doing nothing but talking and shouting and is consitently using the Falkland Islands for her own political security. Your Junta tried the same thing which resulted in over 600 Argentine military personel dying for a murderous corrupt dictator. The ones who survived have since been largely abandoned by subseqent leadership.
Your president couldn't lead a booze up in a brewery, but she is certainly good as mismanaging an economy. Anybody care to receive some bonds that are likley to be defaulted?
You know where the Islands are. If you want them come and get them. You won't because you can't.
......”Jorge. You insulted evey victim of Al-Qaeda and describe the deaths of those on 9/11 (including the Argentines) as collateral damage. You take the biscuit in the insult stakes.“.......
Apr 06th, 2010 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0- Stop it!!!!! I didn't insult anyone, you instead insulted the memory of argentine soldiers who fought for our land against pirates and colonialism's supporters like you!!!
.......”BTW your president apears to be doing nothing but talking and shouting and is consitently using the Falkland Islands for her own political security.“.......
- Do you read yourself??? Do you realize how stupid you are???
You are repeating like a fool all the bullshit your governments say!!!
......”Your Junta tried the same thing which resulted in over 600 Argentine military personel dying for a murderous corrupt dictator. The ones who survived have since been largely abandoned by subseqent leadership.“.......
- And you forgot to say that they were insulted by you!!!!!
....”Your president couldn't lead a booze up in a brewery, but she is certainly good as mismanaging an economy. Anybody care to receive some bonds that are likley to be defaulted?”.....
- If you don't want to buy them, just don't do it!!!!!! There are many people and businessmen who trust Argentina. Ask Google and Vollkswagen for instance. They don't care what your stupid Financial Times says, they just see what is happening here and invest their money.
Ignorant!!!!!!
......“You know where the Islands are. If you want them come and get them. You won't because you can't.”.......
Apr 06th, 2010 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0- That's the typical arrogance that will become a pain in the for you in future. LOL
That's the behaviour of yours that led to the creation of organizations like Al-Qaeda. Deal with it!!!!!!!!
Keep going with that behaviour and you will have more Al-Qaedas and more IRAs. I knew stupidity didn't have boundaries, but you are all a case!!!!!!!!
“Justin, what hapened to you???? Did I insult your mother??? Then you are gonna say that I'm the one who starts with the insults! Be carefull!!! ”
Apr 06th, 2010 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe you made disparaging remarks about someone's wife, a simple device to bring your attention to it, not for one second do I expect you to apologise. I just pointed something out that demonstrates your typically hypocritical double standards.
“the memory of argentine soldiers who fought for our land against pirates and colonialism's supporters like you!!!”
Apr 06th, 2010 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0No British soldiers liberated a small island community from a despotic and corrupt military regime, whose preferred method of dealing with political dissent involved throwing people out of the back of a plane over the South Atlantic sans parachute.
The only nation interested in colonialism is Argentina these days, everyone else is getting on with life, while Argentina bleats on about how it could have been a contender.
Ah somebody rattled the chief Parrots cage again! keep squawking Jorgios-Rios it's music to my ears!
Apr 06th, 2010 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jihad Jorge has indicated that Argentina is a good place to invest. I certainly hope is it as they are going to need all the help they can get now the Chinese have decided that Argentine soya bean oil is not up to scratch. Those individuals who live in the shanty towns surrounding BA certainly need all the help they can get and thier lot will certainly not be helped by Argentina's biggest export being given the cold shoulder by the biggest soya bean importer in the world.
Apr 06th, 2010 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It also looks like Brazil are more than happy to provide the Chinese with the quality of soya-oil that Argentina cannot deliver. This indicates, that although regional leaders with a limited mandate can claim to support Argentina in its supposed claim to the Falkland Islands, in reality they are more than happy to see Argentina hurt so they can take the business opportunity for their benefit. Nice to have such good friends Jorge. Neighbours who will shout in an open forum and not put their intentions down on paper and stab you in the back at the first opportunity.
Perhaps if your excuse for a leadership focused on important things that will actually make a difference for the hard pressed Argentines then your country would attract real investment worthy of note.
I doubt those living in a shanty town give a toss about the Falkland Islands. They are probably more concerend with, food, clean water, security, healthcare and education. Just like your veterans from the Falkland war, your goverment has abandoned its own citizens (except when it wants their votes then it is bribes all round).
Carry on Jorge.
70 JustinKuntz, I didn't insult you nor your mother as you did!!!!
Apr 06th, 2010 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are now angry because I demostrates your argument about 1850 convention is pure crap!!!!
You couldn't rebutte that was one of your many agressions against Argentina.
What I tell others is none of your business or are they your machos????
.......“No British soldiers liberated a small island community from a despotic and corrupt military regime, whose preferred method of dealing with political dissent involved throwing people out of the back of a plane over the South Atlantic sans parachute.”......
- British soldiers didn't liberate anything, they just couldn't put up with a third-world nation like Argentina gets into its own terretory without asking permission to the old imperial power.
........“The only nation interested in colonialism is Argentina these days, everyone else is getting on with life, while Argentina bleats on about how it could have been a contender.”......
- No, UK resist the idea of taking apart its colonial enclave. There is no room for colonialism in XXI century, much less 14000 km away.
.....“Ah somebody rattled the chief Parrots cage again! keep squawking Jorgios-Rios it's music to my ears!”......
- Keep trying to find me on the net, you have nothing in life except doing that. Insect!!!!
.......“Jihad Jorge has indicated that Argentina is a good place to invest. I certainly hope is it as they are going to need all the help they can get now the Chinese have decided that Argentine soya bean oil is not up to scratch. Those individuals who live in the shanty towns surrounding BA certainly need all the help they can get and thier lot will certainly not be helped by Argentina's biggest export being given the cold shoulder by the biggest soya bean importer in the world. ”.......
Apr 06th, 2010 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- I will begin to call you fascist and stupid beef if you keep calling me jihad.
You don't know what is happening, China is pressuring for Argentina to lift restriccions over chinnese goods . It's just business. How can be possible that you don't understand????? Are you a religious reader of Financial Times??? Well, stop doing it!!!!! Did you research about Volkswagen and Google in Argentina????? Fiat is another, there are many international companies investing in Argentina because they came and saw what was going on here and decided to make strong investments. Get your facts right!!!!
.......“It also looks like Brazil are more than happy to provide the Chinese with the quality of soya-oil that Argentina cannot deliver. This indicates, that although regional leaders with a limited mandate can claim to support Argentina in its supposed claim to the Falkland Islands, in reality they are more than happy to see Argentina hurt so they can take the business opportunity for their benefit. Nice to have such good friends Jorge.”......
- Don't be ignorant man!!! If we decide to ban imports from UK, surely France will be glad to suply them! This is all business!!! Pragmatism!!!!
Very rare that someone like you who claims to be an investor, a businessman don't know how this works!!!!!
.......“Neighbours who will shout in an open forum and not put their intentions down on paper and stab you in the back at the first opportunity.”.......
Apr 06th, 2010 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Most of commonwealth countries (not all of them) support the unreal, false, contrived and spurious “self-determination of islanders” but when it comes to business they could easily change, examples of that are caribean English speaking countries that never before supported argentine claim and they are backing us!!!
They have no power to make UK change its behaviour regarding international law since UK only understand the law of weapons and wars.
Anyway, if Argentina offered something that were very interesting to Australia or New Zealand, they surely would change its possition with regard to Malvinas. Again, this is all about business, this world works that way, it took some time for me to understand it.
......“Perhaps if your excuse for a leadership focused on important things that will actually make a difference for the hard pressed Argentines then your country would attract real investment worthy of note.”......
- We were the country with more foreign investment during 90's and the claim for Malvinas was there very healthy, indeed, during 90's the claim was stamped in our constitucion and nothing has changed for investors. You seem to ignore that investors don't care those kind of claims, they only care their business, that's why Argentina bans fisheries companies with pirate permissions to fish in the sea controlled by us. Those companies don't care the claim but its money. So, if you want to fish in Malvinas with pirate permission, that's fine, but you won't get permission to do it here. If you are an intelligent investor, you would preffer to do it in the argentine zone which is much extense and much more profitable and in future you could ask for services in our ports.
.......“I doubt those living in a shanty town give a toss about the Falkland Islands. They are probably more concerend with, food, clean water, security, healthcare and education.”.......
Apr 06th, 2010 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Partially true. Food, clean water, security, healthcare and education are urgent needs for many argentines, they don't have the opportunity to enjoy the net as I do. What you say crashs with the typical argument of your country that states “”argentine governments claim Malvinas to divert people's attention from other issues“”. You said it!. Many, I would say most of us have many other concerns much more important than a couple of islands, but that doesn't mean we can't still claim them. Governments cannot divert people's attention with Malvinas issues, that have happened before in the dictatorship, will never again!!!!!
.....”Just like your veterans from the Falkland war, your goverment has abandoned its own citizens (except when it wants their votes then it is bribes all round).“......
- Now you are treating our veterans as stupids who cannot think by themselves and vote according to their will.
Anyway, I suggest you to start looking at your current country's issues. There are as never before there, people without healthcare and affordable housing, many gang bands and violence is increasing. What economic and social argentine history was so far, could become yours.
........”Carry on Jorge.”........
- Don't worry about that!
P.S. Seriously, stop refering to me as jihad, I told you before I don't give a sh*t about religions, all of them suck, they are good for nothing!
intriguing it took you 4 paragraphs to say absolutely nothing......carry on
Apr 06th, 2010 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said enough I think. Yeah!!!!!!!!!
Apr 06th, 2010 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW it helps me to develop a better communication in english. I've been paying in the institute to do it, but now I have you for free!!! LOL
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