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Argentina to resume nuclear program in cooperation with Russia
Russian President Dimitri Medvedev met with President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner to commemorate 125 years of bilateral relations between Argentina and Russia and to sign several cooperation agreements in different fields including helping Argentina to develop its nuclear program. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“ ... the elimination of visa requirements for Argentine citizens, in return for Argentina's support of Russia to be made part of the World Trade Organization and their support for the Argentine cause in Malvinas sovereignty claim... ”
Apr 15th, 2010 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now there's a surprise ......... not that it'll make an ounce of difference :-)
Anyone is happy to support their position as it costs them nothing to do so. Active help is a very different matter - there will be none of that. Russia would do better to gain British support for joining the WTO. I'm sure Britain will support the Japanese over claims to the Kuril Islands that the Russians stole from them in return.
Apr 15th, 2010 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhh Mr “nothing happens” is still here. He seems to be a bit obssesed with this issue since his comments are also available in “Thetimes”. Of course, no difference to his usual crap!
Apr 16th, 2010 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas will be always there, just 500 km away from Patagonia, don't forget it!!!!!
Your daddy britain won't be for ever there. It's a promise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Las Malvinas fueron, son y serán Argentinas!!!
And indeed, nothing is happening ..... is it?
Apr 16th, 2010 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands are British ... live with it!
Brazil, Venezuela and now Argentina... just what the continent needs.. Peron bankrupt the country the first time dicking around with nukes and jets...
Apr 19th, 2010 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0How many Russian billionaires decide to make their home and base in Buenos Aries when compared to London? Take a look at the movement of people between London and Moscow and you will see which country Russia sees as more important in terms of trade and investment.
Apr 19th, 2010 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Verbal support for Argentina's claim for the Islands is worth nothing and CFK knows this. If oil is found then a numebr of SA countires that currently verbalise their support for Argentina will be more than happy to get involved in a hydrocarbon industry; they will follow the money. She is only using the islands as a political football for domestic purposes anyway.
Argentina adds a couple of MI-17 helicopters to its Air Force. I bet the Typhoon pilots at Mount Pleasant are crapping themselves at the thought of delaing with a couple of helicopters based on a 1960s design.
The drilling goes on and the ships come and go unipeded.
MEET, your comparison are so pathetic, they only show your lack of objetivity and the prejudgment that you have against argentina.
Apr 19th, 2010 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obvioulsy the russians will prefer firstly the u.k., it's a developed country, it's one of the most influent nations in the world, you can't compare the british development with our economy, that's why you comparison is pathetic.
About the support by the rusians to the malvinas's cause, we know that those are just words, we are not idiot, we know perfectly that we wont never recover the islands.
BUBBA, greasy, ignorant and idiot as usuall, you allways criticise strongly peron, it only shows your lack of objetivity and your ignorance.
Apr 19th, 2010 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I recognize that peron was demagogue and authoritarian, but no body can deny the fact that he gave such a great progress to argentina, before his presidene, the workers didnt have any benefit, since 1946 untill 1974 the middle class represented almost the 50% of the national rent, he industrialized the country, and he beleived also in the independence for the economy, you should reed others points of view, and not only the anglo perspective about peron, i am not peronist, i am just objetive when i judge our ex presidents, because i'm a profesor, anyway the history judges much better the presidents than all the rest of the people, unfortunately there are still some ignorants like you who believe that peron only gave shoes and candys to the poors.
Axel. Thank you for your post. Any issues I have with Argentina are meerly down to the ideological ramblings of your leadership as these have in the past have led to conflict. There also appear to be a core of hate filled muppets like Jihad Jorge who unlike you have a distorted sense of reality and are begging to have their noses rubbed in it. I trust that with you we can enjoy constructive debate and arrive at conclusions that are mutually beneficial.
Apr 19th, 2010 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid beef!!! The MI-17 helicopters will service antartic campaigns. You are so idiot!!!!!
Apr 20th, 2010 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russia has more trade with UK at the moment, but they, as any other country, are thinking about the future. They have to see prospections about the future, like food for instance, that's why an association with Argentina is strategic!.
Did you claim you were a businessman???? LOL
No Jihad Jorge. I have never claimed to be a businessman. I am an academic with a focus on the economics of healthcare.
Apr 20th, 2010 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know perfectly well what Mi-17s are for, just reiterating the point that Argentina has no chance at regaining the Falkland Islands either diplomatically or via force; there is no evidence to counter this. You appear to be in favour of developing some sort of ballistic missile programe to threaten the 3000 islanders in their own homes. Thankfully it seams that your leadership have no appetite for the vision of Armageddon you hold so dear. The purchase of these 1960s modelled transport helicopters makes it even clearer that Argentina is not and never will be a military threat to the UK or the Islanders we protect from the Jihadists like you.
The drilling continues and the ships come and go unimpeded.
BEEF, this is evident that we have diferent points of view about the sovereign dispute, the arguments of both sides are totally oposite, anyway untill the f.i.g accepts to sit and discuss with our goverment to find a fair solution for both sides, the status quo will remain maybe for the next 300 years, and our side can't keep on ignoring the islanders.
Apr 20th, 2010 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About a militar threaten by argentina, it was just a hipocrite and perverse affirmation shaked by the british press, and soported by the goverment for the u.k. surelly.
Therer is not doubt about the renounce of my country to use militar actions to recover the islands, i think really that the islanders dont know how to separate the context of the distatorship, and the actual context.
We are a democratic nation since 1983, most us are not going to allow a new invation to malvinas, cristina, or any other authority can't take the decition of invading the islands again, with out the consent of our people, it would be such a terrible politic coste for the idiot authority that decides to invade the islands one more time, i know what i am saying, because i live here, i know how most people thinks, on the other hand, i would like to know, where are you from?, i am from buenos aires.
About te future of the dispute, my hipothesis says that, if oil corporations dont find important reserves of oil, to be exploted and sold in hight volumens, i dont think that the u.k. will remain in the islands for along time, beside we have to wait untill the convemar expeds it's self about the fact of amplify our marine milles, i think that for that moment both sides will have to sit and get an agrement, to resolve what milles belong to eachother.
Beef , you are academist on Health Economy !? well !!
Apr 20th, 2010 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am an economist too ,not academist and additionally very
interested on Health Systems and their Economies .
All are collapsed , corrupted ,expensive,discontrolable,not ethical..
Off topic but need to talk shop with a fellow economic soul.
Apr 20th, 2010 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many economic models in the managment of healthcare systems are expensive and contain inefficencies. Remember that if a system become very efficient (finacially) then someones job becomes surpluss to requirments. In other words one mans corrupt and inefficient health services is another mans job opportunity (of which income is taxed, spent, reducing potential social security benefits required by this employed individual etc.) as a result it is impossible to manage any national or regional health economy to benefit all stakeholders.
Economies of healthcare (especially those in “westernised economies”)cannot be wholly analysed from the positivist paradigm and need to be considered in the light of the dominance of the neo-liberal agenda and the persuavie culture of performativity.
As to your conclusions about Health Systems one must be careful to jump to conclusions. In the post-modern age such hard and fast conclusions can be difficult to identify. In terms of control it depends on what level of control your are refering to. In the Performative cultre then control and obediance at a regional level can be gained by appropriate insentivisation etc. but this raises other issues for debate.
The biggest issue is that regardless of system there is always a politicisation of health care which can be detrimental depeinding on the motivation. E.g the Health minister in Nigeria once argused for spending over 50% of the health budget on mosquito nets rather than trying to offer a balanced provision for the population.
However, the biggest inefficency if the fact that most health services are in reality “disease mangement services” with USA being the clearest example of this proposition. The new reforms may see actual spending reduce and key health measures improve, but this will take time and there will be more political moves that may influence the quantitative and more importantly qualitative data.
Today, The Hague said that Uruguay have violated the “Uruguay River treaty” with Argentina (of course Mercopress an independent and uruguayan media hasnt publish any article) , where is the punishment to this country??? which punish will have UK to stolen our South Atlantic islands since 1833???
Apr 20th, 2010 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Axel. Thank you for another thoughful response. It is certainly appreciated and is a good break from the pathic bile spouted by some others on this board.
Apr 20th, 2010 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FYI, I am British and have a financial interest in the oil exploration in the Islands. We will disagree on the soverignty issue but in reality this is an issue for the Islanders and as such your analysis that the status quo will be maintained is accurate.
It is likley that some form of Hydrocarbon industry will emerge in the Islands with the number of licences, drilling option and the CoS across the prospects it is indeed likley that a comercially viable source will emerge. A 60bn barrell amount is unlikely although I would like it to be true.
Although there may be disagreements in terms of sovereignty, it would be benefical for all involved to sit down and discuss issues of mutual interest; South Atlantic issues and the potential for collaboration in hydrocarbon exploration and production. Both nations did have an agreement but Argentina unilaterally walked away from this which was unfortuante and meant that the FIG had no other option but to press on alone.
The current UK government (and any future government) and the FIG have indicated thier willingness to discuss issues of mutual interest with Argentina but not the issue of soverignty, this is reasonable considering the Islanders have the right to self-determination. These overtures have rebuffed by the current Argentine leadership who appear to then get all hot under the collar when the Islanders go ahead regardless.
I expect that the current Argentine leadership will be deselected by the electorate next year (tell me if this is an innacurate assumption) and that a new Argentine government will be much less jingoistic.
We dont expect Argentina to simply drop the sovereignty claim but would like them to be fair business partners for the benefits of the Islands and Southern Argentina.
Nitrojuan. Have you taken your issue with regards to the Falklands Islands to the ICJ in The Hague? If want want to seek a legal resolution then you need to present your evidence to the ICJ. This would be a good start if you want to press some kind of legal argument.
Apr 20th, 2010 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef OK !
Apr 20th, 2010 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the Health System is not a Capitalism nor a Socialism game !
Reforms are not sufficient ,there need to make Revolution at this subject
becouse , our main problem is to make design of this spesific System and
to settling into the General Economic System (!). now then, you must
realize it by coordinated optimal Organization Technics !!...
eventually it have to work on permanently ,harmless for the
General Economic System (!)..of course by inner control mechanisms...
you saw that ,recently inept and infamous cosmetic enacting embarks
in the USA ...which will be highly burden on Budgets !
our other main problem is ,if we have a new system then we can
realize by whom and how easily by convincing them ?.
politicians , drug firms , doctors , secret services, military forces ,,
academics ,......and some others .
but they never should forget that there are more ,more bigger powers
around ! I know their names who are called as -- virus-- .!!!!
geo. Are you coming from a far left perspective? I thing something is being lost in translation?
Apr 20th, 2010 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0beef ....
Apr 20th, 2010 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as I said that this spesific problem is not Capitalism nor Socialism game !
first of all ,we Economists should be independent ,have higly
social-ethic values and honest.!!
everbody see that poor current Economiy Science's stands !!
and unfortunately it's Academic World's inabilities !!
WE CAN NOT TRANSFER OUR POWERS TO THE PARASITES
OF THE GENERAL ECONOMIC SYSTEM !!
Nitrojuan. All you had to do was look:
Apr 21st, 2010 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2010/04/20/argentina-s-environmental-hypocrisy
And, no, Britain did not steal “your” islands in 1833. They were not yours then and are not yours now.
12. Stupid beef, I don't want to threaten islanders, just the british. The misile has to be ready to hit Mount Pleasant base, just in case of course!!!!
Apr 21st, 2010 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I want my country to rebuild its army, What is wrong with that????
Don't you like your country has a good army??? Hypocrite!!!!
Nitro, as you can see, that court is biased to economic interests. It says Argentina is right, but the pulp stays!!!!!!!
I can imagine what it would say if it adressed Malvinas issue, it would be like this:
“”UK has violated argentine sovereignty, but UK is not obligated to negotiate the sovereignty“”
LOL. No we cannot be so stupid to go there!!!!
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