DESIRE Petroleum, the oil exploration company in which many Falkland Islanders are shareholders, has said it is hopeful of making a discovery, despite posting a £2.5 million pre-tax loss for the year ending December 31 2009. Read full article
some kind of 'welsh' fixation by the look of it ..... of course if the islands were populated by the Welsh then they'd probably want their independence!
arquero wrote for all understood ,there were opportunist grabbing by Brits in 1833
Not in the Falkland Islands though. The opportunists, with regard to the Falklands, were in fact Argentina.
By the way - using your logic, such as it is, you would have to concur that Argentina was being opportunist in the 1870's during its little Conquest of the Desert!
I note that once more the Argentines posting here don't respond when it is pointed out to them the hypocrisy of their claim given their genocidal colonial past. What is wrong with these people? Are they too ashamed to admit to it or does 'playing' the victim somehow wipe the memory of their colonial crimes away?
criston UK ( kingist kid) !!
yu must learn some foreign languages to understand outher World !
just like ,Spanish,Russian,Chinese,Hindu,Cornish,Welsh......
below text in Welsh language :
Cymunedolsy'n deillia o blant Prydain canoloesol yn aros,ymosod
ar y gwerrthhoedd o wledydd eraill.Tra bod y set o hunaian eu
rhyw !Os ydynt yn gweld yr Unol Daleithiau America gallant
weld eu hunain yn y drych ! Gallof ddeall y anace gwir deimland.
Wrth gwrs yn rolau eraill ,ni ddylai fod yn anghofio mewn gyflafan
Rhai a wnaed yn India yw'n gyfrinach !!
Rhai a wnaed yn Affrica yw'n gyfrinach !!
Er bod rhai o'r a wnaed yr Armeniaid yn adnabbyddus eyfrinach !!
criston ! Ooooouuuffffffgg ! i must be patients ! i must be patient !
firstly ; yu should understand that :
Argentina is an Independent Republic ! who has different History and
also it is not a member of any Military Pact ( Nato...Warsaw...etc )
what does this mean !? ..it has different culture ..it has different
perceptions...it has different reflexs..it has different security concepts..
i am from Europa origin too ...but here (as well USA)is not Europa !
gdr - you say that you have to be patient!!! That is nothing compared to what everyone else feels when you Argentines repeat the same tired comments, despite being shown all the facts that dispute such comments.
You still refuse to acknowledge your countries crimes of colonialism/genocidal past and instead try to change the subject, divert attention away, ignore it or refuse to accept it.
But you are correct to say that Argentina is different culturely and that is why the people of the Falkland Islands do not want your culture imposed upon them nor do they seem to want to be ruled by you.
gdr wrote ”i am from Europa origin too ...but here (as well USA)is not Europa !”
And nor is it what the indeginous peoples of South America wanted either. You don't add anything to the debate by making excuses as you do. You trip yourself up.
gdr wrote nothing of importance today - so no change there then. What else hasn't changed? Oh yes - the Falkland Islands are still not Argentine. Happy days;-)
jajajajaja pure crap, as usual christine wrote nothing of importance today!!!!!!!!
- We have time to wait, meanwhile, I'll see very amused how pirates in the islands pay fortunes for food living in front of the fifth world food exporter. LOL
Jihad Jorge - the coward - wrote We have time to wait, meanwhile, I'll see very amused how pirates in the islands pay fortunes for food living in front of the fifth world food exporter. LOL
More threats and impotent rants from one such as yourself who deep down knows that his tired country will never get its hands on the Falkland Islands.
Read resolution 2065. It quite clearly invites the governments to negotiate, it doesn't mandate them. General Assembly resolutions are non-binding in international law.
my God, we're in danger of losing our AAA rating ..... maybe.... perhaps... Now remind me, what was Argentina's rating ??? Oh, I remember .... B now that's really funny :-)
And Argentina risks losing that pathetic rating very soon. Cap in hand to the IMF and begging for cash to prop up its failing plastic princess. What a joke of a country it is. Jihad Jorge also forgets that there is an election on in the UK and opposition parties and their supporters play down what the incumbant government does in an attempt to get the vote out for their party.
jorge !!
at your(#41) link .there , i met our ChristopherUK' s
comment as the name of chris.
very interesting ; whenever he remarks here ,
then he loses his mind !!
Jihad Jorge ejaculated in impotent rage We never had AAA stupid c*nt and we don't f*cking care since that is all sh*t of your world. LOL
It is a good job that you don't care, or say you don't in an attempt to hide your dissappointment, as your silly country is far too corrupt to be trusted with a AAA rating LOL ROTFLMAO
gdr wrote ”at your(#41) link .there , i met our ChristopherUK' s
comment as the name of “ chris”.
DUH!!! Not my post dear boy. You do know that there are more people with the name Chris. I know that you see me everwhere as you are devoted to me - we even have Jihad Jorge trying to stalk me such is the desperation he feels at losing at every turn LOL
gdr wrote very interesting ; whenever he remarks here ,then he loses his mind !!”
gdr wrote ”ChristopherUK ( christon) ! don't use “” Viagra” much ! which has many repercussion !”
Have no need of Viagra and have never used it but thanks for the advice based upon your experiences of the use of the drug - it has obvioulsy had a negative effect upon you and I am sure many will learn fromyour experiences.
Could not help noticing that overtime the quality of the comments here as degraded significantly...
Back on topic, Desire is upbeat to prevent shares from continue the fall... if Rockhopper also finds gas then better sell quickly or be man enough to take the complete loss. With the North Sea running out, if UK doesn't secure this source of oil (to be determined) then it will have to knock on Chavez door for oil... now that's going to be funny.
Christon ! i know yu take Viagra but yu should be happy to have a girlfriend ! very normal that England is very cold and nonexotic place.
i ne'er used Viagra or similair drugs ..i take multivitamin-mineral
complex- tablet everyday...no smoke..drink wine sometimes...
i'm very healthy...in my family sexual activity tills to 70's old years !
don't drink coffee much ..becouse it makes prostate on males !
just frankly advice ..
i drink cacao everyday ( magnesium....antioksidan )instead of coffee !
yu can't show us any strong evidences on Malvinas...becouse all
discussed facts are just --dry formal history knowledges-- everyone
knows or accessible easily !
What a laugh this thread. Of course, UK among others will knock Chavez's doors. They will knock many other countries' doors. Just wait, it takes time.
We are watching the process of destruction of that country. Like the rome empire you know.
I know Taliban Jorge Rios, it is a laugh when you get going, as you have nothing to say!
There will be no knocking at the door of Chavez, as he is nothing and has nothing, oil doesn't last forever you know! We're quite happily developing our green energy and nuclear industry at the moment, 20 years time we will be a carbon free country, so then what will we need from Chavez or any other pathetic autocratic idiot in south America.
As for process of destruction like the Roman empire, you do know the roman empire was destroyed and sacked no less than 6 times and still came back? And that it was never actually destroyed but continued right up until the creation of the italian state?
Oh Jorge you better come up with a better analogdy than that!
But the question remains, what destruction? I think your just speaking out of turn again as per usual nothing constructive, no knowledge just like a parrot, it can't really speak it imitates, just like the entire Argentine nation, the big one speaks and the masses imitate
I wonder has there ever been a free thinking Argentine?
Make up your mind gdr - I have gone from being someone called Ball to someone called Williams. Why are you and Jihad Jorge so obsessed with me that you are at the point of stalking?
You are a so hypocrite man, appealing to the guilty strategy to make your point. You are so touching... you may me cry sniff... sniff.. haha
“You still refuse to acknowledge your countries crimes of colonialism/genocidal past and instead try to change the subject, divert attention away, ignore it or refuse to accept it.”
What about your colonialist adventures mate?
In India, Pakistan, China, Egypt, Palestine, South Africa, Australia, US, and more recent... Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, etc.
The remaining aborigines in north america are not happy with you. Do you know that? You almost exterminated them.
@ 69 NicoDin - well, as ever you jump in without having understood. I have never denied the UK past - what I was drawing upon was the colonial history of Argentina - something that many Argies posting here fail to recognise. Oh - whilst the UK, along with France, Germany, USA etc have a long colonial past it was Spain and Portugal that can be said to have started European colonialism - one that was genocidal. Something that, yet again, has been ignored - by you in this case. I am pointing out Argentine hypocrasy in that it isn't innocent in this regard but chooses to call others out. Not that I expect you to understand this point. As to you waiting for and wanting an apology - no way. If you didn't get the point then you are far too dim to care anyway.
I don't think a single one of the Brits who post to this website has denied the British colonial past. We all know very well what happened in the British Empire - the good AND the bad. We also acknowledge our involvement in slavery - something I notice Argentina, once a slave-owning nation, does not address in any way.
What you can't seem to get into your thick skull is that our Empire ended decades ago. The last major colony was given its independence in 1980. Most of them before that during the 1960s and the first to get it was in 1948. That's over 60 years ago when we started to dismantle our Empire. And yet you still try to pin an imperialist badge to us. What history does Argentina have of giving away territory and independence to the indigenous people of Argentina?
Finally, when you factor in what you Argentines did during the Conquest of the Desert, and continue to do to this day to the native people of Argentina then you most certainly do not have a leg to stand on. In fact it is you who is the hypocrite - and of the worst kind.
Sorry Christopher UK & co, but I don’t understand your logic and do you know why?
Because you are confused about us.
You are making a huge mistake we have nothing to do with Spain as you have nothing to do with the Roman Empire. Do you understand the idea?
The Romans colonized what is today UK in the year 55 and 54 before Jesus Christ and left and later they came again and created The city of London (the name of London was in honor of a Roman general from the legions called Londinium),
They also named the Island Britannia or Magna Bretagna this is written in the official documents found in the Oxford University and in accordance with the records kept by the Romans cartographers.
Romans had created the whole British civilization including commerce, the estate organization, bring the tax concept, money, parliament, bridges, pipes, water installation, bath, Roman Greek alphabetic, the writing, church and part of your language.
In fact the Roman legions sent to conquer what is today Britain were from Iberia peninsula (today Spain and Portugal).
And they stayed in the UK 400 hundred years. Hum! You seem to be pretty Latin I guess.
So my friend, will you apologize to the Celts, North African, etc killed by your relatives the Romans because they make up Great Britain?
I guess you don’t. I’m right?
We are not Spanish like you are not Romans, Spanish or Portuguese we both Brits and Argies speak a language related or deviated from Latin and mixture of Celts languages like the Gaelic stuff plus many other continental European languages.
Some people are descendent from Spanish but a lot are from Italian, German, French, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Netherlands, etc, etc.
If you want to find Spanish start at home Michel Portillo your Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer could be a good start.
NicoDin wrote You are making a huge mistake we have nothing to do with Spain as you have nothing to do with the Roman Empire. Do you understand the idea?
sorry mate but your attempt at jejune sophistry just does NOT wash. Can you take out a second to think as to why? Again - I advise you not to jump into anything without thinking first. As ever we have yet more examples of Argentine double speak...is it any wonder why the good people of the Falkland Islands want nothing to do with you?
Julia Roberts or Julio Roberts, please be smart You are not getting any way here with your reminiscence of the Conquest of the Desert or dessert? Can I have chocolate Ice cream please?.
Try another please even the most proud aborigines of they culture will laugh about your statement.
Do you see any indigenous person here wanting to kill any Argy?
In fact if someone comes surely will want to kill you more than me.
Any person with aborigine ancestors from Argentina can help me to show my point please?
Do you think we are morons? What do you want to Establish or accomplish hey?
Your are 8.000 miles away from your little Island (Britain) you took by force these Islands, UN tells you that is colonization, I know you know we know. So make me a colonialist make you happy?
Do you think this will solve your illegal occupation problems?
Ok let’s as you are so concern about the aborigines killed by the bloody Spanish (you make me cry) let’s make a deal.
You go away from the Islands and we will give the entire mass of land of the archipelago (Malvinas, Georgias, etc, etc) to the aborigines.
That would be fair to every one and we solve both problems your moral hazard problem and concern about the natives murdered by the Spanish and we will try to repair in some way the damage, violation, etc. Made by the Spanish colonialist when they arrived here.
NicoDin in post #76 shows an example or two of just what was being referred to with regard to Argentine hypocrisy...you just don't get it do you.
The Falklands are not now, nor have they ever been, legally Argentine. You really do need to stop posting Argentine propaganda as it is always exposed as such. The history you have been taught is wrong.
The UK does not occupy the Falkland Islands illegally. The people of the Falkland Islands occupy the islands and the UN has enshrined their rights to self determination. For Argentina to try to ignore their rights and what they have expressed is an act of colonialism on the part of today's Argentina.
Here is the thing - what you argies fail to grasp. If the islanders wanted to have the title of the Falklands transfered to Argentina then the UK would. They do not want that to happen and the UN says that it cannot happen unless they say so.
Well when you repeat the same old lies and untruths - despite seeing the evidence - then yes, we do think that you are morons. It isn't a nice thing to think of someone but, when you are trying to impose colonialism on the Falkland Islanders, then you act like morons.
Wow! Mate you don’t stop to surprise me “jejune sophistry” ok you have show me that you did go to the school and can made some pompous statements (in your own language of course I shouldn’t expect more anyway) by reading your old Collins dictionary but empty of concepts.
Did you spend so much time to find “jejune sophistry” or was just delirium tremens?
By the way the “NOT wash” was really disappointing.
Ok lets go again do you know what is analogy? If so read it again because your anti-Argy rhetoric seems to don’t help you in any way.
“Can you take out a second to think as to why”
Show me master I will be very anxious waiting or may be not. How knows?
“is it any wonder why the good people of the Falkland Islands want nothing to do with you?”
Do you represent the good people from the Falkland Island master?
I only heard you and you and may be you and your partner J Roberts, There is no women in the islands? Or you are like the Talibans?
Any lady out there to have an intelligent conversation?
My first question is mister taliban allows you to answer.
Does he represent the view of all Islanders? We are complicated if so haha.
“It isn't a nice thing to think of someone but, when you are trying to impose colonialism on the Falkland Islanders, then you act like morons”
Did we invade UK? No we didn’t
You are the guys in some one else house trying to impose your rules backing from a dangerous, colonialist, warmonger country called UK. Do you understand the concept?
Do you need an international pool to understand that? Explain me Iraq and Afghanistan please all lies and more lies.
You have and strange concept about the situation here you will be right if we invade Scotland, Dover, Cardiff, Conway, Wells, London, etc.
While the Islanders keep they tied with UK Argentina and the Argentinos will see you as a danger to its security.
Your governments are bloody warmongers from the left to the right, provocative and stupid.
And in your politician’s culture there is a strange thinking that wars resolve internal problems an old rule extracted from Niccoló Machiavelli’s book “The prince”.
Can you count? See how many wars had Argentina in the last 100 years and see UK list. Argentina 1 with UK.
The list of UK wars will not fit in the 2000 characters allowed here.
Who is the Moron? And who doesn’t want anything to do with the other?
NicoDin wrote And in your politician’s culture there is a strange thinking that wars resolve internal problems an old rule extracted from Niccoló Machiavelli’s book “The prince”.
OH the blessed IRONY LOL Oh my aching sides. What an own goal on your part.
“That is just what I have been doing. I will give you credit for finally acknowledging your place ;-)” ha ha ha
Thank you very much indeed my Lord. By the way Sir would you like your coffee with sugar or just as usual.
Am I doing well Sir?
As I was so diligent and obedient (from the Latin oboidiens) and docile (Uff again from the Latin docilis) can you bring me some of this funny paper that your normally print with the face of Elizabeth Queen II with the number 100 in the front better known as Quids.
Because I have a little problem here Wanna (from the African Zulu when you exploit them as slaves).
I ran out of toilette paper and you know you pay so little and I found out that on this days I can use this funny papers printed by your government what are more cheaper than the toilette paper.
“It isn't a nice thing to think of someone but, when you are trying to impose colonialism on the Falkland Islanders, then you act like morons”
Did we invade UK? No we didn’t
No, you invaded the Falklands FFS. You are trying to impose colonialism on the Falklands, not on the UK.
You are the guys in some one else house trying to impose your rules backing from a dangerous, colonialist, warmonger country called UK. Do you understand the concept?
NicoDin, learn something about acquisition of territory in international law. The Falklands have never been Argentine territory. Argentina did not inherit the Falklands from Spain, nor did it ever establish effective control over the whole archipelago.
Now, now NicoDin... I know that you want to test the waters and push boundaries but any more cheek towards your master will only result in you being sent off to bed without any supper.
dab14763 - do you want to take bets on what reply you get? They cannot produce anything that shows that they inhereted Spains contested title...but it is fun watching them go around in circles. Well, fun if it wasn't so tragic.
You annoy me can you try another thing more original.
We will and you will be our corrupt puppet I personally I will name you the King of Malvinas Argentinas so you will can visit the Royal family in UK and exchange some biscuits and tea. Don’t miss the more fascinating thing will be free paid with tax from the Islanders.
“do you want to take bets on what reply you get? They cannot produce anything that shows that they inhereted Spains contested title...but it is fun watching them go around in circles. Well, fun if it wasn't so tragic.”
Of course you are absolute right in this matter I am getting fun because and will be what have to be. Let’s say Malvinas back to Argentina. Case close.
NicoDin wrote Of course you are absolute right in this matter I am getting fun because and will be what have to be. Let’s say Malvinas back to Argentina
Ah, but the Falklands has never been legally Argentina's to give them back to. You never owned the islands. On that score it is indeed case closed.
“NicoDin, learn something about acquisition of territory in international law. The Falklands have never been Argentine territory. Argentina did not inherit the Falklands from Spain, nor did it ever establish effective control over the whole archipelago.”
The Islander either and for that reason there is a territorial dispute, If someone make a claim (like Argentina did) there is not right settled. Basic knowledge of the litigation process so UK have to sit and make up its argument. And if you were reading your own press citing your own politicians off records your foreign office knows that very well.
Quote “we cannot make a strong case again Argentina without exposing us a colonialist” Guardian from your own govt. When consulting US about the matter.
”The Islander either and for that reason there is a territorial dispute, If someone make a claim (like Argentina did) there is not right settled.
Nobody has ever said the UK acquired sovereignty through inheritence. That is the basis for Argentina's claim, not the basis for the UK's sovereignty. The UK has sovereignty because it is the only state that has established full and effective control over the entire archipelago for a long enough period. Full sovereignty was established after 1833, before 1833 different countries had limited control of small areas of the Falklands, Port Egmont, Port Louis, but not over the entire archipelago.
Basic knowledge of the litigation process so UK have to sit and make up its argument.
What litigation process? There is no litigation process. Argentina is too afraid to test its claim in any court. And Argentina as the claimant is the one that has to prove its claim. Basic principle of jurisprudence.
And if you were reading your own press citing your own politicians off records your foreign office knows that very well.
Quote “we cannot make a strong case again Argentina without exposing us a colonialist” Guardian from your own govt. When consulting US about the matter.
Some civil servant at the foreign office may have said that, but it has never been the position of any British government. I would be interested to see what evidence that civil servant based his argument on. Probably on the lies that Argentina inherited the Falklands from Spain and the UK expelled the population.
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Apr 24th, 2010 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guest Settlers makes ESCAPING PRACTICES ... also in winter !!
www.falklands.info/history/82neverargentine.html
click : shops
click : falkland photos
click : midwinter swims 2006
click : view collection
click : pages 1,2,3,4
of course they understand that Malvinas ' experienced reality !!
in the near future ;
Apr 24th, 2010 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0we'll give all Malvinas to our Welsh origin citizens as a free gift !!
which they deserve !
#2 in Welsh language ;
Apr 24th, 2010 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yn fuan ,ynysoedd y Malvinas dras Cymreig i'n dinasyddion
byddwn yn rhoi fel rhoodd...Maent yn haeddu !
some kind of 'welsh' fixation by the look of it ..... of course if the islands were populated by the Welsh then they'd probably want their independence!
Apr 24th, 2010 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0i did'nt say that our Welsh origin citizen will be located in Malvinas !
Apr 24th, 2010 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0no body can live there !
Oh, but the British can .... and do ... :-)
Apr 24th, 2010 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps gdr is about to welsh out on something?;-)
Apr 24th, 2010 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0gdr wrote i did'nt say that our Welsh origin citizen will be located in Malvinas ! no body can live there !
Apr 24th, 2010 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0So who are those people who have built a very falklands/british way of life in the islands? Just what are you taught in school? Oh yes, lies.
i am not from Welsh origin...but i have some Welsh origin friends !
Apr 24th, 2010 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0in translation of Welsh language !!
dwdw i ddim yn nharddiadd Cymru ,yr wyf wedi
ffrindiau,mae rhai tarddiad Cymru !
mae ( Flk/ Brits) oes y ffordd o fyw,
Apr 24th, 2010 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0unig ffordd ofyw gwesteion dros dro !
[[ translation to english from welsh language ]]
there is no Falk/Brits way of life in the islands,
just merely,interim guest settlement living kind !
nid oer unrhyyw goed, oherwydd mae prydain yn
Apr 24th, 2010 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0hoff o goed ers Robin Hood !
[[ translation to English from Welsh language ]]
becouse, there are no any trees ,however the Brits
have always loved the trees,forests since Robin Hood !
www.cilmeri.org/eng/?page_id=5
Apr 24th, 2010 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gdr ##
Apr 24th, 2010 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0brits fear from you ##
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Apr 24th, 2010 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i know arq ! as yu see here ( as yu know , in your History)
Brits are always very opportunists !!
my technic is very simple that i block all their thinking reflexs !
their pink and sweet lifestyles are at the beginning of end !
Apr 24th, 2010 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0their behaviour reflexs show us , their acrimonies and incapabilies !
you seem derecho .....
Apr 24th, 2010 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for all understood,there were opportunistic grabbing in 1833 ....
arquero wrote for all understood,there were opportunistic grabbing in 1833 ....
Apr 24th, 2010 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That really does describe what Argentina was trying to do in 1833. Well done for finally realising that.
gdr has forgotten that his country is the product of a violent and genocidal past.
Apr 24th, 2010 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When will Argentina apologise for all that it did?
for all understood ,there were opportunist grabbing by Brits in 1833
Apr 24th, 2010 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0arquero wrote for all understood ,there were opportunist grabbing by Brits in 1833
Apr 24th, 2010 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not in the Falkland Islands though. The opportunists, with regard to the Falklands, were in fact Argentina.
By the way - using your logic, such as it is, you would have to concur that Argentina was being opportunist in the 1870's during its little Conquest of the Desert!
I note that once more the Argentines posting here don't respond when it is pointed out to them the hypocrisy of their claim given their genocidal colonial past. What is wrong with these people? Are they too ashamed to admit to it or does 'playing' the victim somehow wipe the memory of their colonial crimes away?
Apr 24th, 2010 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gdr - comment 11 - you know nothing about the islands do you? I can take a walk anyday among trees 40-60 feet high (15-20mtrs) and 100 years old.
Apr 25th, 2010 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0tim !!
Apr 25th, 2010 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0yu are very rightful...
many crowded population walk anyday among grass
15-20 mm high and one week old !
criston UK ( kingist kid) !!
Apr 25th, 2010 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0yu must learn some foreign languages to understand outher World !
just like ,Spanish,Russian,Chinese,Hindu,Cornish,Welsh......
below text in Welsh language :
Cymunedolsy'n deillia o blant Prydain canoloesol yn aros,ymosod
ar y gwerrthhoedd o wledydd eraill.Tra bod y set o hunaian eu
rhyw !Os ydynt yn gweld yr Unol Daleithiau America gallant
weld eu hunain yn y drych ! Gallof ddeall y anace gwir deimland.
Wrth gwrs yn rolau eraill ,ni ddylai fod yn anghofio mewn gyflafan
Rhai a wnaed yn India yw'n gyfrinach !!
Rhai a wnaed yn Affrica yw'n gyfrinach !!
Er bod rhai o'r a wnaed yr Armeniaid yn adnabbyddus eyfrinach !!
gdr you have a lot to learn and your country a lot to seek forgiveness for. Now scuttle off back under your rock where you belong.
Apr 25th, 2010 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0criston ! Ooooouuuffffffgg ! i must be patients ! i must be patient !
Apr 25th, 2010 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0firstly ; yu should understand that :
Argentina is an Independent Republic ! who has different History and
also it is not a member of any Military Pact ( Nato...Warsaw...etc )
what does this mean !? ..it has different culture ..it has different
perceptions...it has different reflexs..it has different security concepts..
i am from Europa origin too ...but here (as well USA)is not Europa !
an example more !!
Apr 25th, 2010 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0you can not use some of Spain's spanish language in South America !
a normal word which used in Spain ,could has profanity meaning here.
gdr - you say that you have to be patient!!! That is nothing compared to what everyone else feels when you Argentines repeat the same tired comments, despite being shown all the facts that dispute such comments.
Apr 25th, 2010 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still refuse to acknowledge your countries crimes of colonialism/genocidal past and instead try to change the subject, divert attention away, ignore it or refuse to accept it.
But you are correct to say that Argentina is different culturely and that is why the people of the Falkland Islands do not want your culture imposed upon them nor do they seem to want to be ruled by you.
gdr wrote ”i am from Europa origin too ...but here (as well USA)is not Europa !”
Apr 25th, 2010 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0And nor is it what the indeginous peoples of South America wanted either. You don't add anything to the debate by making excuses as you do. You trip yourself up.
criston ! ......eich bywyd fel curo'r !
Apr 25th, 2010 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gdr wrote nothing of importance today - so no change there then. What else hasn't changed? Oh yes - the Falkland Islands are still not Argentine. Happy days;-)
Apr 25th, 2010 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0jajajajaja pure crap, as usual christine wrote nothing of importance today!!!!!!!!
Apr 25th, 2010 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- We have time to wait, meanwhile, I'll see very amused how pirates in the islands pay fortunes for food living in front of the fifth world food exporter. LOL
How would you know what they pay for food in the Falklands Jorgebobo? You've never been there...
Apr 25th, 2010 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jihad Jorge - the coward - wrote We have time to wait, meanwhile, I'll see very amused how pirates in the islands pay fortunes for food living in front of the fifth world food exporter. LOL
Apr 25th, 2010 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More threats and impotent rants from one such as yourself who deep down knows that his tired country will never get its hands on the Falkland Islands.
LOL
Apr 25th, 2010 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Archi-pelotudo, I know, I know what happens there.
Christine Ball, the liar retard, you won't do anything. I will put my foot there and become the governor.
Jihad Jorge wrote Christine Ball,
Apr 25th, 2010 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0??????????????????????????
Jihad Jorge wrote the liar retard, you won't do anything. I will put my foot there and become the governor.”
Keep dreaming - after all...dreams are all you have and all you ever will have.
http://www.elargentino.com/nota-88076-En-Malvinas-impera-la-logica-del-poder.html
Apr 26th, 2010 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.mapuche-nation.org/
Apr 26th, 2010 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge, re your pointless link
Apr 26th, 2010 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Read resolution 2065. It quite clearly invites the governments to negotiate, it doesn't mandate them. General Assembly resolutions are non-binding in international law.
lol and for those who ask how Argentina is gonna recover Malvinas,
Apr 26th, 2010 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I introduce you the british bomb that will explode anytime soon and will make disappear your country.
http://www.debtbombshell.com/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6539671/UK-more-at-risk-than-other-major-economies-of-losing-top-credit-rating.html
Apr 26th, 2010 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol. How funny it is........
my God, we're in danger of losing our AAA rating ..... maybe.... perhaps... Now remind me, what was Argentina's rating ??? Oh, I remember .... B now that's really funny :-)
Apr 26th, 2010 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Argentina risks losing that pathetic rating very soon. Cap in hand to the IMF and begging for cash to prop up its failing plastic princess. What a joke of a country it is. Jihad Jorge also forgets that there is an election on in the UK and opposition parties and their supporters play down what the incumbant government does in an attempt to get the vote out for their party.
Apr 26th, 2010 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0We never had AAA stupid c*nt and we don't f*cking care since that is all sh*t of your world. LOL
Apr 26th, 2010 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is now paying debts, we are not asking money to IMF. You are in the same path of Greece LOL
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=3038704&op=34&o=global&view=global&subj=25845468632&id=769385225&fbid=41794755225
Apr 26th, 2010 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Once again, your link doesn't work, Jorge. I know it's difficult for you, but perhaps you should ask someone to help you cut and paste.
Apr 26th, 2010 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0jorge !!
Apr 26th, 2010 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0at your(#41) link .there , i met our ChristopherUK' s
comment as the name of chris.
very interesting ; whenever he remarks here ,
then he loses his mind !!
Jihad Jorge ejaculated in impotent rage We never had AAA stupid c*nt and we don't f*cking care since that is all sh*t of your world. LOL
Apr 26th, 2010 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is a good job that you don't care, or say you don't in an attempt to hide your dissappointment, as your silly country is far too corrupt to be trusted with a AAA rating LOL ROTFLMAO
gdr wrote ”at your(#41) link .there , i met our ChristopherUK' s
Apr 26th, 2010 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0comment as the name of “ chris”.
DUH!!! Not my post dear boy. You do know that there are more people with the name Chris. I know that you see me everwhere as you are devoted to me - we even have Jihad Jorge trying to stalk me such is the desperation he feels at losing at every turn LOL
gdr wrote very interesting ; whenever he remarks here ,then he loses his mind !!”
You really do need to think before you post. LOL
You are right Gdr.
Apr 26th, 2010 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christine, there is a lot of people with that name, but how many sily, sissy, pirate, retard and asshole christines are??? Not much. LOL
Oh dear - is that the best that you can do...of course it is the best you can do..as everyone knows. Jihad Jorge is a retarded little girl;-)
Apr 26th, 2010 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL
Apr 26th, 2010 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ChristopherUK ( christon) !
Apr 28th, 2010 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0don't use Viagra” much ! which has many repercussion !
gdr wrote ”ChristopherUK ( christon) ! don't use “” Viagra” much ! which has many repercussion !”
Apr 28th, 2010 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have no need of Viagra and have never used it but thanks for the advice based upon your experiences of the use of the drug - it has obvioulsy had a negative effect upon you and I am sure many will learn fromyour experiences.
Could not help noticing that overtime the quality of the comments here as degraded significantly...
Apr 28th, 2010 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Back on topic, Desire is upbeat to prevent shares from continue the fall... if Rockhopper also finds gas then better sell quickly or be man enough to take the complete loss. With the North Sea running out, if UK doesn't secure this source of oil (to be determined) then it will have to knock on Chavez door for oil... now that's going to be funny.
Christon ! i know yu take Viagra but yu should be happy to have a girlfriend ! very normal that England is very cold and nonexotic place.
Apr 28th, 2010 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0i ne'er used Viagra or similair drugs ..i take multivitamin-mineral
complex- tablet everyday...no smoke..drink wine sometimes...
i'm very healthy...in my family sexual activity tills to 70's old years !
Christon ! by the way !
Apr 28th, 2010 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0don't drink coffee much ..becouse it makes prostate on males !
just frankly advice ..
i drink cacao everyday ( magnesium....antioksidan )instead of coffee !
gdr wrote Christon ! i know yu take “ Viagra”
Apr 28th, 2010 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Evidence please! What you have none...what a surprise. Just like you have no evidence to back up your spurious claim to the Falklands!!
Christon ! Malvinas idee fixed man !
Apr 28th, 2010 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0yu can't show us any strong evidences on Malvinas...becouse all
discussed facts are just --dry formal history knowledges-- everyone
knows or accessible easily !
yu don't know Charles Darwin' s life story !? ...then
Apr 28th, 2010 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0yu don't know anythings about Malvinas !!
Charles Darwin visited the Falklands twice, on both occasions recording meeting the people Argentina claimed were expelled before he arrived.
Apr 28th, 2010 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0justin ! are yu sure ? do yu want to tell about the life story
Apr 28th, 2010 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of Charles Darwin !
What a laugh this thread. Of course, UK among others will knock Chavez's doors. They will knock many other countries' doors. Just wait, it takes time.
Apr 28th, 2010 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are watching the process of destruction of that country. Like the rome empire you know.
I know Taliban Jorge Rios, it is a laugh when you get going, as you have nothing to say!
Apr 29th, 2010 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0There will be no knocking at the door of Chavez, as he is nothing and has nothing, oil doesn't last forever you know! We're quite happily developing our green energy and nuclear industry at the moment, 20 years time we will be a carbon free country, so then what will we need from Chavez or any other pathetic autocratic idiot in south America.
As for process of destruction like the Roman empire, you do know the roman empire was destroyed and sacked no less than 6 times and still came back? And that it was never actually destroyed but continued right up until the creation of the italian state?
Oh Jorge you better come up with a better analogdy than that!
But the question remains, what destruction? I think your just speaking out of turn again as per usual nothing constructive, no knowledge just like a parrot, it can't really speak it imitates, just like the entire Argentine nation, the big one speaks and the masses imitate
I wonder has there ever been a free thinking Argentine?
heeeey ChristopherUK (Christon) where are yu !?
Apr 29th, 2010 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are yu there !?
www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Williams/66548666
mmmmm it seems there is another obssesed with me. Good luck Bob!!! Don't smoke too much!!!
Apr 29th, 2010 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0keep away fom all British's Petroleum !
Apr 29th, 2010 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.businessinsider.com/about-the-bp-deepwater-gulf-oil-spill-2010-4
Make up your mind gdr - I have gone from being someone called Ball to someone called Williams. Why are you and Jihad Jorge so obsessed with me that you are at the point of stalking?
Apr 29th, 2010 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Christopher UK
Apr 30th, 2010 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a so hypocrite man, appealing to the guilty strategy to make your point. You are so touching... you may me cry sniff... sniff.. haha
“You still refuse to acknowledge your countries crimes of colonialism/genocidal past and instead try to change the subject, divert attention away, ignore it or refuse to accept it.”
What about your colonialist adventures mate?
In India, Pakistan, China, Egypt, Palestine, South Africa, Australia, US, and more recent... Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, etc.
The remaining aborigines in north america are not happy with you. Do you know that? You almost exterminated them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Colony just to show you how silly you are.
Your warmongering culture had killed more aborigines and people than the rest of the world.
I want to here your apologizes please, I am waiting...
@ 69 NicoDin - well, as ever you jump in without having understood. I have never denied the UK past - what I was drawing upon was the colonial history of Argentina - something that many Argies posting here fail to recognise. Oh - whilst the UK, along with France, Germany, USA etc have a long colonial past it was Spain and Portugal that can be said to have started European colonialism - one that was genocidal. Something that, yet again, has been ignored - by you in this case. I am pointing out Argentine hypocrasy in that it isn't innocent in this regard but chooses to call others out. Not that I expect you to understand this point. As to you waiting for and wanting an apology - no way. If you didn't get the point then you are far too dim to care anyway.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NicoDin,
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think a single one of the Brits who post to this website has denied the British colonial past. We all know very well what happened in the British Empire - the good AND the bad. We also acknowledge our involvement in slavery - something I notice Argentina, once a slave-owning nation, does not address in any way.
What you can't seem to get into your thick skull is that our Empire ended decades ago. The last major colony was given its independence in 1980. Most of them before that during the 1960s and the first to get it was in 1948. That's over 60 years ago when we started to dismantle our Empire. And yet you still try to pin an imperialist badge to us. What history does Argentina have of giving away territory and independence to the indigenous people of Argentina?
Finally, when you factor in what you Argentines did during the Conquest of the Desert, and continue to do to this day to the native people of Argentina then you most certainly do not have a leg to stand on. In fact it is you who is the hypocrite - and of the worst kind.
Sorry Christopher UK & co, but I don’t understand your logic and do you know why?
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because you are confused about us.
You are making a huge mistake we have nothing to do with Spain as you have nothing to do with the Roman Empire. Do you understand the idea?
The Romans colonized what is today UK in the year 55 and 54 before Jesus Christ and left and later they came again and created The city of London (the name of London was in honor of a Roman general from the legions called Londinium),
They also named the Island Britannia or Magna Bretagna this is written in the official documents found in the Oxford University and in accordance with the records kept by the Romans cartographers.
For 810.00 Quids you can learn you own history but the tube is not included and not accommodation is giving.
http://international.conted.ox.ac.uk/courses/coursequeries.php?id=O09I507JDR
Well if cannot afford the 810 Quids try this one is free but for kids, sorry I know knowledge cost a lot in UK.
http://international.conted.ox.ac.uk/courses/coursequeries.php?id=O09I507JDR
To be continue below...
Romans had created the whole British civilization including commerce, the estate organization, bring the tax concept, money, parliament, bridges, pipes, water installation, bath, Roman Greek alphabetic, the writing, church and part of your language.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact the Roman legions sent to conquer what is today Britain were from Iberia peninsula (today Spain and Portugal).
And they stayed in the UK 400 hundred years. Hum! You seem to be pretty Latin I guess.
See the map of the Roman Empire Oops there is a province of the empire called Britain. Bloody bastards they made you Latin as well...
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Roman_Empire_map.svg
Hallo, sum wav foug Mediterranean?
So my friend, will you apologize to the Celts, North African, etc killed by your relatives the Romans because they make up Great Britain?
I guess you don’t. I’m right?
We are not Spanish like you are not Romans, Spanish or Portuguese we both Brits and Argies speak a language related or deviated from Latin and mixture of Celts languages like the Gaelic stuff plus many other continental European languages.
Some people are descendent from Spanish but a lot are from Italian, German, French, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Netherlands, etc, etc.
If you want to find Spanish start at home Michel Portillo your Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer could be a good start.
..and the Englishness History of UK !
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?cat=150
NicoDin wrote You are making a huge mistake we have nothing to do with Spain as you have nothing to do with the Roman Empire. Do you understand the idea?
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sorry mate but your attempt at jejune sophistry just does NOT wash. Can you take out a second to think as to why? Again - I advise you not to jump into anything without thinking first. As ever we have yet more examples of Argentine double speak...is it any wonder why the good people of the Falkland Islands want nothing to do with you?
Julia Roberts or Julio Roberts, please be smart You are not getting any way here with your reminiscence of the Conquest of the Desert or dessert? Can I have chocolate Ice cream please?.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try another please even the most proud aborigines of they culture will laugh about your statement.
Do you see any indigenous person here wanting to kill any Argy?
In fact if someone comes surely will want to kill you more than me.
Any person with aborigine ancestors from Argentina can help me to show my point please?
Do you think we are morons? What do you want to Establish or accomplish hey?
Your are 8.000 miles away from your little Island (Britain) you took by force these Islands, UN tells you that is colonization, I know you know we know. So make me a colonialist make you happy?
Do you think this will solve your illegal occupation problems?
Ok let’s as you are so concern about the aborigines killed by the bloody Spanish (you make me cry) let’s make a deal.
You go away from the Islands and we will give the entire mass of land of the archipelago (Malvinas, Georgias, etc, etc) to the aborigines.
That would be fair to every one and we solve both problems your moral hazard problem and concern about the natives murdered by the Spanish and we will try to repair in some way the damage, violation, etc. Made by the Spanish colonialist when they arrived here.
Were and when do we have to sign?
NicoDin in post #76 shows an example or two of just what was being referred to with regard to Argentine hypocrisy...you just don't get it do you.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands are not now, nor have they ever been, legally Argentine. You really do need to stop posting Argentine propaganda as it is always exposed as such. The history you have been taught is wrong.
The UK does not occupy the Falkland Islands illegally. The people of the Falkland Islands occupy the islands and the UN has enshrined their rights to self determination. For Argentina to try to ignore their rights and what they have expressed is an act of colonialism on the part of today's Argentina.
Here is the thing - what you argies fail to grasp. If the islanders wanted to have the title of the Falklands transfered to Argentina then the UK would. They do not want that to happen and the UN says that it cannot happen unless they say so.
NicoDin wrote Do you think we are morons?
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well when you repeat the same old lies and untruths - despite seeing the evidence - then yes, we do think that you are morons. It isn't a nice thing to think of someone but, when you are trying to impose colonialism on the Falkland Islanders, then you act like morons.
www.counterpunch.org/kelly04302010.html
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow! Mate you don’t stop to surprise me “jejune sophistry” ok you have show me that you did go to the school and can made some pompous statements (in your own language of course I shouldn’t expect more anyway) by reading your old Collins dictionary but empty of concepts.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you spend so much time to find “jejune sophistry” or was just delirium tremens?
By the way the “NOT wash” was really disappointing.
Ok lets go again do you know what is analogy? If so read it again because your anti-Argy rhetoric seems to don’t help you in any way.
“Can you take out a second to think as to why”
Show me master I will be very anxious waiting or may be not. How knows?
“is it any wonder why the good people of the Falkland Islands want nothing to do with you?”
Do you represent the good people from the Falkland Island master?
I only heard you and you and may be you and your partner J Roberts, There is no women in the islands? Or you are like the Talibans?
Any lady out there to have an intelligent conversation?
My first question is mister taliban allows you to answer.
Does he represent the view of all Islanders? We are complicated if so haha.
NicoDin wrote Show me master
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is just what I have been doing. I will give you credit for finally acknowledging your place ;-)
Again, again and again
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It isn't a nice thing to think of someone but, when you are trying to impose colonialism on the Falkland Islanders, then you act like morons”
Did we invade UK? No we didn’t
You are the guys in some one else house trying to impose your rules backing from a dangerous, colonialist, warmonger country called UK. Do you understand the concept?
Do you need an international pool to understand that? Explain me Iraq and Afghanistan please all lies and more lies.
You have and strange concept about the situation here you will be right if we invade Scotland, Dover, Cardiff, Conway, Wells, London, etc.
While the Islanders keep they tied with UK Argentina and the Argentinos will see you as a danger to its security.
Your governments are bloody warmongers from the left to the right, provocative and stupid.
And in your politician’s culture there is a strange thinking that wars resolve internal problems an old rule extracted from Niccoló Machiavelli’s book “The prince”.
Can you count? See how many wars had Argentina in the last 100 years and see UK list. Argentina 1 with UK.
The list of UK wars will not fit in the 2000 characters allowed here.
Who is the Moron? And who doesn’t want anything to do with the other?
NicoDin asked of his Master Who is the Moron?
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and his Master answered - with regard to the Falklands issue, you are.
Now, be off with you...
NicoDin wrote And in your politician’s culture there is a strange thinking that wars resolve internal problems an old rule extracted from Niccoló Machiavelli’s book “The prince”.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OH the blessed IRONY LOL Oh my aching sides. What an own goal on your part.
Christopher, Christopher, Christopher ...
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That is just what I have been doing. I will give you credit for finally acknowledging your place ;-)” ha ha ha
Thank you very much indeed my Lord. By the way Sir would you like your coffee with sugar or just as usual.
Am I doing well Sir?
As I was so diligent and obedient (from the Latin oboidiens) and docile (Uff again from the Latin docilis) can you bring me some of this funny paper that your normally print with the face of Elizabeth Queen II with the number 100 in the front better known as Quids.
Because I have a little problem here Wanna (from the African Zulu when you exploit them as slaves).
I ran out of toilette paper and you know you pay so little and I found out that on this days I can use this funny papers printed by your government what are more cheaper than the toilette paper.
Me grateful Sir god bless you.
“It isn't a nice thing to think of someone but, when you are trying to impose colonialism on the Falkland Islanders, then you act like morons”
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did we invade UK? No we didn’t
No, you invaded the Falklands FFS. You are trying to impose colonialism on the Falklands, not on the UK.
You are the guys in some one else house trying to impose your rules backing from a dangerous, colonialist, warmonger country called UK. Do you understand the concept?
NicoDin, learn something about acquisition of territory in international law. The Falklands have never been Argentine territory. Argentina did not inherit the Falklands from Spain, nor did it ever establish effective control over the whole archipelago.
Now, now NicoDin... I know that you want to test the waters and push boundaries but any more cheek towards your master will only result in you being sent off to bed without any supper.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dab14763 - do you want to take bets on what reply you get? They cannot produce anything that shows that they inhereted Spains contested title...but it is fun watching them go around in circles. Well, fun if it wasn't so tragic.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@dab14763
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You annoy me can you try another thing more original.
We will and you will be our corrupt puppet I personally I will name you the King of Malvinas Argentinas so you will can visit the Royal family in UK and exchange some biscuits and tea. Don’t miss the more fascinating thing will be free paid with tax from the Islanders.
Next please
@Christopher UK,
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“do you want to take bets on what reply you get? They cannot produce anything that shows that they inhereted Spains contested title...but it is fun watching them go around in circles. Well, fun if it wasn't so tragic.”
Of course you are absolute right in this matter I am getting fun because and will be what have to be. Let’s say Malvinas back to Argentina. Case close.
Good bye...
#87 +#88
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rhai,a wnaed yn India yw'n gyfrinach !?
Rhai,a wnaed yn Affrica yw'n gyfrinach !?
Malvinas oedd ,yn a bydd yn Ariannin !
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NicoDin wrote Of course you are absolute right in this matter I am getting fun because and will be what have to be. Let’s say Malvinas back to Argentina
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, but the Falklands has never been legally Argentina's to give them back to. You never owned the islands. On that score it is indeed case closed.
@dab14763
Apr 30th, 2010 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“NicoDin, learn something about acquisition of territory in international law. The Falklands have never been Argentine territory. Argentina did not inherit the Falklands from Spain, nor did it ever establish effective control over the whole archipelago.”
The Islander either and for that reason there is a territorial dispute, If someone make a claim (like Argentina did) there is not right settled. Basic knowledge of the litigation process so UK have to sit and make up its argument. And if you were reading your own press citing your own politicians off records your foreign office knows that very well.
Quote “we cannot make a strong case again Argentina without exposing us a colonialist” Guardian from your own govt. When consulting US about the matter.
Have a nice day.
”The Islander either and for that reason there is a territorial dispute, If someone make a claim (like Argentina did) there is not right settled.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody has ever said the UK acquired sovereignty through inheritence. That is the basis for Argentina's claim, not the basis for the UK's sovereignty. The UK has sovereignty because it is the only state that has established full and effective control over the entire archipelago for a long enough period. Full sovereignty was established after 1833, before 1833 different countries had limited control of small areas of the Falklands, Port Egmont, Port Louis, but not over the entire archipelago.
Basic knowledge of the litigation process so UK have to sit and make up its argument.
What litigation process? There is no litigation process. Argentina is too afraid to test its claim in any court. And Argentina as the claimant is the one that has to prove its claim. Basic principle of jurisprudence.
And if you were reading your own press citing your own politicians off records your foreign office knows that very well.
Quote “we cannot make a strong case again Argentina without exposing us a colonialist” Guardian from your own govt. When consulting US about the matter.
Some civil servant at the foreign office may have said that, but it has never been the position of any British government. I would be interested to see what evidence that civil servant based his argument on. Probably on the lies that Argentina inherited the Falklands from Spain and the UK expelled the population.
Have a nice day.”
A good day to you, too
LOL.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Muy bien dicho NicoDin, como diría un amigo mío, ZAAAAAASSSSSS en toda la jeta jajajaja.
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