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Argentine congress to vote bill discriminating companies working in the Falklands
Argentina’s Lower House issued on Tuesday a majority opinion, without dissent, on the bill that contemplates sanctions for companies that operate in Argentina and that wish to participate or are involved in oil activities in the Falklands/Malvinas Islands area under British administration. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo Argentina is going to close every branch of all the international banks and corporations that have invesments in the Falkland Island oil expo companies (e.g. Barclays - that arranged Argentinas debt swap deal).
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina decides to ignore the democratic rights of the Islanders and wants to restrict international business. With that and CFKs dodgy back street deals with Chavez (yes a dictator), Argentina is on a slippery slope to further financial difficulty. Election in 2011 anyone!
This is laughable
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even babies learn that if they throw all their toys from their pram all they end up with is no toys to play with.
This will be just as effective as the presidential shipping decree in February. Nothing will change...
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose that if Argentina was stupidly prepared to shoot itself in the foot in 1982 ..... that still leaves a spare foot :-)
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can I assume that as all these companies, BHP Billington included, which were forewarned of Argentina's proposed action, and on the assumption that they haven't been seen to complain very much, don't give a damn?
And why does it take Mercopress so long to read the Buenos Aires Herald, this story is 6 hours old!
Working from the declaration in UN Resolution 1514(XV):
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 04. All armed action or repressive measures of all kinds directed against dependent peoples shall cease in order to enable them to exercise peacefully and freely their right to complete independence, and the integrity of their national territory shall be respected.
AND
6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Surely this is a clear demonstration of Argentina's complete contempt for the UN except when they think they can con it in to supporting them?
Yes. Argentine is breaking the UN Charter & resolution 1514(XV) among many others.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are criminal. If they keep pushing escalation, sadly, they will reap the whirlwind. Che Idiots! Nationalism is so stupid.
What is needed is détente, cooperation & friendship by Argentina & other neighbouring countries not escalation & illegal economic sanctions, which are repressive measures forbidden by resolution 1514(XV).
It is very sad that Argentina seeks conflict not rather than its duty under resolution 2065(XV) to solve its sovereignty dispute with the UK in accordance with resolution 1514(xv), in defiance of the the UN General Assembly resolution 1514(XV).
Argentina must accept the Islanders wish to remain British. The Islanders have clearly stated their democratic decision:
“The message is simple and unequivocal. We are a distinct community with our own identity and separate Government. We have the right to self determination, the right to decide our own future, unhindered by any interference from any other government; and our expressed, democratic wish is to remain British. It is time the Argentine Government accepted that.”
What is so difficult about that to accept?
Sounds about right to me :-)
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is on its way to being a bandit nation. Breaches Convention on the Law of the Sea. Attempts economic repression of a neighbour state. Continues with anachronistic colonial claims.
Jun 24th, 2010 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how stupid can you get, they now wish to cut of the things that help them, and once again their people will follow them all the way down to hell, why don’t you tell your government to grow up. By stopping people and companies from Argentina if they trade with great Britain, could result in the following,
Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 01, the companies and banks could well pull out of Argentina
2, others will stop investing in Argentina
3, the oil companies will just trade or reroute from Chile.
4, and most important the British are well and truly capable of operating the whole thing from the UK and then the Argentineans can look out over the sea , and see all this trade, money, help, prosper, investors, power, riches, all sail by you, going to the UK, and the rest of the word, while you lot just sit their crying wondering how stupid you have been, but what the hell your Argentineans aren’t you, your clever , you dictate to the world don’t you, and you still believe in fairies,
but then whatever your government says must be the truth. but one day [yes] one day the argentine people will wake up and see their is a real world out their, and their government has been lying to them [again and again], perhaps then they will rise and get rid of these people who live in luxury while their people are poor, and rejoin the rest or the world , and be friends again with the British, who will not lie to them, and still willing to share the great wonders with them, you even you can see we are the good guys,, if you don’t want to sea all this wealth go north, then grow up except the reality of the free world, dump your greedy government, and be happy, [and if that’s all rubbish, and you are already happy] THEN STOP MOANING ??????????
No, no, no, no, no, you don't have any self-determination right! You are in someone else's territory, once you get real and accept that, then we can talk about rights. You can call us bullies and whatever you want, but you have to know you are alone with that, no South American country will support you and your daddy UK is far away.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm posting this wherever I can as Marco doesn't seem to want to respond on the appropriate article.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I have pointed out before, although Marcos obviously can't read anything because he's desperately trying to remember what someone told him to say:
1806 and 1807 were attacks by British expeditionary forces on outposts of the Spanish Empire, at the time a puppet-state of the Napoleonic French Empire with which Britain was at war. “Argentina” didn't exist.
1845. An Anglo-French naval squadron defeated and passed an embargo put in place by Juan Manuel de Rosas, dictator of the so-called Argentine Confederation, in an attempt to stop or profit from Anglo-French trade with Argentine inland cities that de Rosas did not control.
Describe how the removal of the inhabitants of the Chagos Archipelago was an “atrocity”. And Marco conveniently forgets to mention that they were removed so that the USA could build a military base. (But he wouldn't want to upset the USA that he no doubt thinks is supporting Argentina). And then the dumb-dumb goes on to quote tens of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths. The Multinational Force Iraq composed troops of 40 nations. Four of them were South American. Can he quote the sources for attributing particular numbers of deaths to British Armed Forces?
C'mon Marco, ante up. Quote your referenced sources for your comments. Or admit that you are just spouting government-inspired crap.
“No, no, no, no, no, you don't have any self-determination right! You are in someone else's territory”
Jun 25th, 2010 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, Everyone in the world nomatter where they live is entitiled to Human Rights.
dont cry for me argentina,
Jun 25th, 2010 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0im british and i dont care
but please take out your dummy
and cuma fighting if you dare,
but if you attack the falklands again
we will again pull your hair,
so stop being a bully
or a kick in the goolies will fair,
so when you fall ,and you can call
dont cry for me argentina,
so stay at home and cry..
LOL. I heard stories about the british playing the actual song when they landed in the falklands/after they retook the islands.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Piss off jorge.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is it not true that the ancient anagram of Argentina, translates into
Jun 25th, 2010 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we love great Britain forever lolol
Going back for a moment to dipstick jorge.
Jun 26th, 2010 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands are a British territory for longer than your feeble brain (?) can imagine. And, incidentally, longer than your feeble country has existed. Over time the Islanders have moved to democratic self-government, a condition that Argentina has not yet reached.
Support from South American countries? Who gives a s**t? Yours is just a failing bandit banana republic.
You can't even see the forthcoming Communist/Fascist/Peronist domination orchestrated by the Kirchners for their private gain. Don't forget that Peronists are Fascists! Never mind, perhaps one day your South American allies will liberate you.
well, we all agree on that,,and long live great britain,
Jun 26th, 2010 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think it's great that Argentina is finally standing for their interests, If the british want to play dirty I guess they will play with themselves, I can live with that.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, self abuse is SAFE! But then if Argentina wants to play with the British, she'll find we're down right DANGEROUS!
Jun 27th, 2010 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, Prime Minister Cameron tells Botox Queen, “Keep your hands off the Falkland Islands or we'll cut them off.”
Jun 27th, 2010 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0today we were beaten by a better side. Well, back to the drawing board.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but before Argentina cheers, i have two honest opinions to say
1, i wish you all success in the world cup.
2, you still wont get the Falklands
10 Jorge - “No, no, no, no, no, you don't have any self-determination right! You are in someone else's territory, once you get real and accept that, then we can talk about rights. You can call us bullies and whatever you want, but you have to know you are alone with that, no South American country will support you and your daddy UK is far away.”
Jun 28th, 2010 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Erm no, they aren't in someone elses territory. They are in UK territory as established in 1765. I believe that is before Argentina existed as a country.
Argentina claims the islanders don't have the right to self determination because they were an implanted population, yet they base the claim on a settlement in the 1820's (which was orginally a private venture of Vernets. Britain rightfully protested when Bueno Aires appointed him governor to land they didn't own).
How can they not see the irony in this? The are basing their claim on a settlement of IMPLANTED people, made up of people from a spanish Colony of IMPLANTED people.
If the islanders don't have the right to self determination, then they can't claim that any settlement they might have had on the idlands had the right to self determination either.
If they say territorial integrity applies, then the islands are still UK territory as the the order of Bueno Aires to appoint Vernet governor was in breach of Britains territorial integrity in the 1830's.
Either way Argentina has no claim.
you can't have self determination over land that doesn't belong to you, if the illegal occupants of Malvinas want to stay, they should show us the land title sign by Vernet that says the land was bought from him, or else the ilegal aliens should get deported back to thei homeland britain or they are free to apply for Argentine citizenship, as all immigrants do around the world, I can't believe the queen would fight for the rights of 2000 british ilegal aliens occupying Malvinas, but would not give the land back to the 10th of thosands of natives in Canada, does this have to do with race or colour ?? I mean they tell us that racism is over and I wonder what that really means when they are still as racist as 200 years ago, british claims to Malvinas are ilegitimate because they invaded the island in 1833 and have not faced punishment by the nations ever since we want those ilegal alliens removed and sent home to their motherland.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0avargas2001, atleast do your own research before commenting.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vernet, for one asked the british for permission twice while living there. He was not a colonist, he was just a seal hunter. We did not expell him, the US did, because he was also a pirate.
The last Argentine people on the island which you refer to came a few years later. But as you know, there were about 4 nations at this time all with claims to the island. You can argue till you are blue in the face who had more right at the time but it's pointless because the islanders have been living there for 170 years, you was on the island for 2 years, they have 168 years on your claim.
They are entitled to live there.
Another thing, You should do well to know that canada is a seperate nation of which the UK has no say over. same with all ex colonys. It does not do you justace if you can't even work that simple fact out.
“but would not give the land back to the 10th of thosands of natives in Canada, does this have to do with race or colour ?? ”
Erm, what about the natives of argentina? i ask the same question of you.
Humour avergas. He's a psychotic, lunatic wetback currently at large on the North American continent, having snuck across the US Mexican border, after escaping from the psychiatric wing of his prison.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's just crazy, this is like the 5th time i've had to tell an argentine this stuff. How can people leave school while not having a basic understanding of the world? it's rediculous.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are the natives in Canada concidered wetbacks and not whites like this thieving colony ? I mean what's the reason for brits to agree on the demand of 3000 white colonist and not listen to the natives in Canada who want their land back as well. doesn't the UN deffend natives ? or just the white people, maybe natives should vote for brit land to be returned to the natives and claim independence from Canada, I wil love to see how the brits and UN react, I am sure they will ignore them as they have untill now.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I mean what's the reason for brits to agree on the demand of 3000 white colonist and not listen to the natives in Canada who want their land back as well”
Jun 28th, 2010 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because, like i've said about 8 times to you. Canada is not a part of the UK. lol.
25 zethe (#)
Jun 28th, 2010 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We did not expell him, the US did, because he was also a pirate. ”
The US did not expel him either. He and his family had already left when the USS Lexington arrived.
Ah, my mistake, the source i read did not mention what happened to him personally, just that the ship arrived, and that it was the last time he saw the islands. I assumed they arrested him.
Jun 29th, 2010 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ignorants! Self-determination right is to end colonialism, you are the colonizers, you have to be finished according to self-determination right!
Jun 29th, 2010 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge, how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you don't even understand what you are talking about?
Jun 29th, 2010 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Self-determination is the free choice of one’s own acts without external compulsion. In politics it is seen as the freedom of the people of a given territory or national grouping to determine their own political status and how they will be governed without undue influence from any other country.
In short, Self Determination is the right of choise. Which is what we are giving the islanders.
Give them that choice in your territory, not in ours!
Jun 29th, 2010 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You illegaly removed our authorities there in 1833, fron then on, everything you do there is ilegal, just consequencies of piracy!
You are not giving anything to them, but using them to have presence in the South Atlantic, but one day it will end and islanders will realize any status they have in future has to be agreed with Argentina, otherwise, they will suffer politic and economic darkness, and it will be their own fault. Surely future generations will do things better!
They've suffered political and economical isolation from your nation for 170 years, it doesn't bother them. It just makes their resolve stronger.
Jun 29th, 2010 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have no leverage.
34 Jorge “Give them that choice in your territory, not in ours!
Jun 29th, 2010 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You illegaly removed our authorities there in 1833, fron then on, everything you do there is ilegal, just consequencies of piracy!
You are not giving anything to them, but using them to have presence in the South Atlantic, but one day it will end and islanders will realize any status they have in future has to be agreed with Argentina, otherwise, they will suffer politic and economic darkness, and it will be their own fault. Surely future generations will do things better! ”
Jorge Argentina's presence on the islands in 1833 was illegal and thethe removal of the Argentine garrison was an entirely legitimate police action. You were trying to steal land which did not belong to you and you were stopped.
You know, Marco has never answered me. No answers, eh, sonny boy?
Jun 29th, 2010 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, argentine presence in the islands was NOT ilegal, but yours.
Jul 01st, 2010 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and zethe, you are wrong. Argentina didn't isolate the islands before 1982, there wasn't a political link, there wasn't agreements, except the air link singned in 1971, that doesn't mean Argentina was isolating Malvinas. Isolation policy started in 2003 with Kirchner's government and won't end in the foreseable future unless something different come out from UK.
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