Argentina’s newly appointed Foreign Affairs minister Hector Timerman confirmed Tuesday he will be present next Thursday/Friday at the United Nations when the Decolonization Committee addresses the “anachronistic colonial issue of the Malvinas Islands” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGood luck Timerman LOL
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Once again the Argentines tell porkies. The UN has never told the UK to discuss sovereignty. It has simply asked it AND Argentina to find a solution to their dispute, well the Argentine dispute. A completely different thing.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Next we'll hear Timerman trotting out that other Argentine lie about the Argentine population being ejected from the islands in 1833....
“The United Kingdom's colonialist policy in the Malvinas Islands is totally anachronistic in the 21st century due to the country's refusal to discuss the islands' sovereignty despite having been told by the UN to do so”
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you'll find we did sit down to negotiate, but the negotiations went now where because Argentina will only accept one outcome and is therefore not willing to negotitate.
Can anyone please explain to me how you are supposed to negotiate with someone who will only accept one outcome? That isn't a negotiation.
If Argentina want to negotiate with anyone, then they should be asking the islanders not the UK. The UK has abided by the UN charter and allowed the islanders self determination, so any negotiations should be between Argentina and the islanders, with the UK on acting as an advisory party to the islanders if they so ask.
They can't negotiate with the islanders Legion, to do that would be to acknowledge that they are a separate people from the United Kingdom and therefore are entitled to self determination.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0They aren't THAT silly.
... despite having been told by the UN to do so...
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I understand it the UN does not have the power to 'tell' anyone anything. Its resolutions do not qualify as international law and its various statements are only persuasive.
Anyone know of the UN 'telling' a Sovereign State to 'do' something, and that State complying. Iran? North Korea? Burma? ...... any?
While he's there, perhaps Sr. Timerman could clarify his country's attempt to interfere with the Falkland Islands by repressive measures directed against them in contravention of UN resolution 1514 as well as disruption of the Falkland Islands' territorial integrity.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly Hoyt. I don't remember Argentina doing what they were told to do in Security Council Resolution 502 of 1982, ie a complete withdrawal of their forces from the Falklands. In fact, I think Argentina completely ignored the resolution... so nothing new there then...
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UN does not have the power to 'tell' anyone anything.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It does...But it's not very effective.
When the UN tells someone to do something they can comply(most first world nations do) or defy them, The deterent is that if you continue to mess up in the end the security council will come knocking at your boarder.
Unless you have a veto, ofcourse.
Korea i think will be a perfect example of this. If they continue not listening to the UN the US will eventually just wade in and start blowing places up. and ofcourse we are likely to follow.
Don't think we'll be following the US into anything for a while. A friend and ally who does not stand beside you is no friend and ally.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The current British government will get NO support from the British people for involving our armed forces in another US-instigated military adventure.
As an Argentine I have bery litle faith in this man, not for his qualification but his background timerman is the son of jews the people who can't even manage to keep together their own UN made up state, how is someone who can't even keep their own state out of trouble help someone else who is dealing with the same problem ? what we need here is a Cuban, Iranian, or French or even an Argentine, not jewish, I really have to see him working as hard as Mr. Taiana.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 avargas2001 (#)
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was a disgraceful, idiotic and bigoted comment.
Well done.
Timmerman has started out with pure propaganda that: “The United Kingdom's colonialist policy in the Malvinas Islands is totally anachronistic in the 21st century due to the country's refusal to discuss the islands' sovereignty despite having been told by the UN to do so”
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK are complying under resolution 1514(XX) with the Islanders express democratic wish, namely:
Our expressed, democratic wish is to remain British. It is time the Argentine Government accepted that
It is false to claim the UN General Assembly has told the UK to discuss the Falklands sovereignty. Rather the truth resolution 2065(XX) invites:
”the Governments of Argentina & the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries & Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions & objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)”
However, the UN General Assembly reminded both the AR & the UK that the AR sovereignty dispute is petty, because the right to self-determination of the Islanders is expressly stated as the will of the UN General Assembly in resolution 1514(XV) as an irreproachable right & the Islanders right to self-determination completely removes the UK sovereignty rights & AR claim to sovereignty, thus:
Immediate steps shall be taken, in ... Non-Self-Governing Territories...to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will & desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence & freedom
Argentina must comply with 1514(XV) or be world criminals again!
Tsk - tsk
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Monobating again?
Get yaself a gal, dudes!
avargas2001.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anti-Semite criminal.
Twinky.
Can't keep your word, liar. And now the sort of brain-dead comments reminiscent of jorge!
Likely result at C24? Timerman will stand up, ramble through his speech written by the Botox Queen, then trot off because he's busy. (This is Argentine for can't listen to the truth). C24 will come up with their usual biased report. (After all, the OAS bloc has, what, 13 members on the C24?). Will they come up with another draft resolution for the GA to ignore? Will they come up with a draft resolution that the GA approves? Who knows! Will they come up with a resolution to be considered by the Security Council? Unlikely.
To Monobate:
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To present the conventional wisdom without discussing whether it is valid or even consistent with objective facts. In contrast to debating in which one presents a controversial opinion and defends it.
As in In that Symposium of narcissistic TV pundits, they just sat around monobating.
Let all of us with intelligence remember that Twink, or perhaps Twinky, said he was leaving.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No point in responding to any crapulous comments posted under his (its?) tag.
Ok guys !!!
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is serious business now!!
Just beat the germans on Sunday and then:
We'll meet again, we know where, we know when.....
Trala lala.
Dame Vera Lynn
yawn
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twinky.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who's up for the Hand of God this time? Keep your fingers crossed. There may be some Argentine players still able to walk off the field. After all, knowing the innate fairness of English players, broken arms, broken legs, cracked skulls could only be accidents.
Domingo you are loosing the battle and your time , Malvinas is part of Argentina and South America unless you figure how to move the Islands close to England.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ermmmm...
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let all of us with intelligence remember that Twink, or perhaps Twinky, said he was leaving.
No point in responding to any crapulous comments posted under his (its?) tag.
AvarGAS - you some kind of neoNazi? What has the New Boy's faith got to do with Israel? Now whilst I have a number of issues with Israel, they seem to have held out for 60 odd years whilst surrounded (ish) by beligerent neighbours. Can't fault their determination or their courage.
Jun 23rd, 2010 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marco - our Domingo is winning, constantly, every day. What has changed, exactly, since 1982 lets say .... or 1833? And how does being 300 miles off the coast of South America automatically make the islands Argentina's property? Haven't you heard - it's not size that matters but what you do with it (this of course MAY be a lie in certain, different, circumstances)
Think - missed you, it's been what? Days, hours?
I guess we are in for that i told you so he so promised us, Hoytred.
Jun 24th, 2010 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh wait..Never mind, Nothing has changed.
Since you guys like this quote so much;
Jun 24th, 2010 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quote from your favorite British newspaper, yes The Guardian:
”People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away, and because much of Latin America is now falling into the hands of the nationalist left, the government in Buenos Aires will enjoy growing rhetorical support in the continent (and indeed elsewhere, from the current government in Iraq, for example), to the increasing discomfiture of Britain. All governments in Argentina, of whatever stripe, will continue to claim the Malvinas”
Repetition is just a sign of wind, gas, hot air!
Jun 24th, 2010 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Guardian is a little lefty newspaper largely ignored inside the UK. Try the Morning Star, they've got some sympathy too ... but they're even more insignificant.
And I haven't seen any discomfort in Britain over this issue. Its a done deal as far as the British people are concerned ... and its Argentina that got 'done' in 1982 ... and 1883 ... and when they were Spanish, in 1771. You're not bright you lot, are you?
22) Hoyt
Jun 24th, 2010 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just turning the lights off ....
And Junior; always remember :
Monobation can make you blind and crippled.
Good night and take care pibe.
morning all
Jun 24th, 2010 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hasta manana, Think (does tomorrow ever come?)
Jun 24th, 2010 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe it was the guardian who opposed us going to the falklands war, Some people just aren't very British.
Jun 24th, 2010 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Guardian. A newspaper owned by a trust (the Scott Trust) formed for the purpose of avoiding the payment of tax. What a pedigree!!
Jun 24th, 2010 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marco I thought I already pointed out that Richard Gott was in the pay of the KGB as a man of influence.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0And here is a tip in life, posting the same four highly selected quotes from highly selective newspapers (I don't think you've used anything except the Guardian?) does make you look any cleverer it just makes us think you have a limited argument on this issue, not that any of your sources and quotes were that good anyway.
I'm posting this where I can as Marco doesn't seem to want to respond on the appropriate article.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I have pointed out before, although Marcos obviously can't read anything because he's desperately trying to remember what someone told him to say:
1806 and 1807 were attacks by British expeditionary forces on outposts of the Spanish Empire, at the time a puppet-state of the Napoleonic French Empire with which Britain was at war. “Argentina” didn't exist.
1845. An Anglo-French naval squadron defeated and passed an embargo put in place by Juan Manuel de Rosas, dictator of the so-called Argentine Confederation, in an attempt to stop or profit from Anglo-French trade with Argentine inland cities that de Rosas did not control.
Describe how the removal of the inhabitants of the Chagos Archipelago was an “atrocity”. And Marco conveniently forgets to mention that they were removed so that the USA could build a military base. (But he wouldn't want to upset the USA that he no doubt thinks is supporting Argentina). And then the dumb-dumb goes on to quote tens of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths. The Multinational Force Iraq composed troops of 40 nations. Four of them were South American. Can he quote the sources for attributing particular numbers of deaths to British Armed Forces?
C'mon Marco, ante up. Quote your referenced sources for your comments. Or admit that you are just spouting government-inspired crap.
Argentina is a democratic country we have laws, and if the colonist don't want Argentine citizenship they have the freedom to go home to britain if they deside of their own free will to stay in Malvinas they can choose to get their Argentine Citizenship, all latin Americans get papers when we travel to north america and we are a lot more then the 3000 colonists, do we have to be white to be afforded the same treatment ?? I am not making this a racial issue as a matter of fact it is.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, how does your 2 year period of time on those islands give you rights over the people who have peacfully lived there for 170 years? it doesn't.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep banging on about we was there first, but you wasnt. Britian was there before you was even a nation and the french was there before anyone. By all means wouldn't that mean the islands belong to france?
Vargas your Argentina democracy and laws have nothing to do with the Falkland Islands. The Falklands are not and have never been part of Argentina.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where you Argies travel and what papers you need is irrelevant, the Falkland Islanders are certainly not interested...
Do you see French people making that claim zethe ? althought it would give Argentina a lot more fire power, or did you already forget the exocets missiles ? What''s we have here is failure to communicate, right I forgot we are not in 1833 and the colonist are not Argentine, it's 170 years later and they are british, wouldn't you like to know how that happend ? Luis Vernet was not a figure of Argentine imagination, as a matter of fact Vernet's job was as real as the ships he inpounded while doing his job,the job UK and Argentina wouldn't or couldn't do, whatever their reason was to betray Vernet beats me but his settlement didn't get the treatment we are expected to give this colonists, in any case no body is suguesting any linching.
Jun 25th, 2010 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exocets are very outdated now, we even used them for a while and have since decomissioned their use for new equipment. Also there are defences against such weapons in modern navys. We actually have the falklands war to thank for such defences, After the war most modern navys created defences against anti ship missiles.
Jun 26th, 2010 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0So when does one stop being a colonist and just become a normal person. By your own defenition arent you a colonist? If it was not for your nation, these people would be an independant nation.
Like i keep saying, you keep banging on about the past when it's exactly that: The past. It's irrelevant.
My point was that treaties and plaques left 200 years back are an outdated process. The world now believes in Human Rights, Self Determination is one of these rights.
This is why our government does and will continue to ignore Argentina, and if you try to force your way back on to the islands we will boot you back out.
It's really as simple as that. No ammount of international moaning will change this. It is not only a matter of Human Rights, but one of National Pride for us(as it is for you) the difference is we hold all the cards. You have no leverage, And as such, your complaints will fall on deaf ears.
avargas2001 wrote Luis Vernet was not a figure of Argentine imagination
Jun 26th, 2010 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nor is he a product of British imagination. We know that he was real, and we know that he knew that the Falklands are British, we know this because Luis Vernet sought permission from Britain for his venture. In doing so he was acknowledging British title to the islands. Later he went back on his word and he tried to play off the UK and the UP. He was illegally made governor and Britain protested. This forced the UK to conduct a restrained police action in 1833. Those settlers who wanted to stay were encouraged to do so - and many did stay despite the lies of modern Argentina.
So we, in the UK, know full well that Luis Vernet existed...we are aware that he was a despicable man who couldn't keep his word. He was a man without honour...why Argentian praises a man without any honour is ... oh yes I see why you do...
I was under the impression that the US raided the islands because had pirated three ships, and that was the last Vernet saw of the islands.
Jun 26th, 2010 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lt. Col. José María Pinedo was the commander when the british arrived and he couldn't resist because most of his crew were British mercenarys who would never fight the RN.
This wasn't the same settlement that Vernet set up for seal hunting. it was a penal colony, a prison.
I could be wrong, i am no expert in the matter.
Vernet was doing the job britain and Argentina couldn't do and was punished for doing it the end, britain knew of vernets claims to Malvinas and let him settle because UK had no claims to the Malvinas, aparently UK wanted fakland witch at the time didn't exeist until british colonist created it., those british colonist in Malvinas have the choice to go home to britain or become Argenine citizens and stay in Malvinas, that freedom is a lot better then the freedom offered to latino's in USA and Canada, we must not let illegal aliens steal Argenine land, ilegal aliens in America don't come in to steal land.
Jun 26th, 2010 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was you kicked out of the USA avargas2001 ?you seem a bit bitter and twisted towards their immigration policy
Jun 26th, 2010 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0britain knew of vernets claims to Malvinas and let him settle because UK had no claims to the Malvinas
Jun 26th, 2010 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as i've read(again, no expert) He applied for british permission twice to live on the islands.
May I beg the indulgence of mentioning that Marco STILL hasn't answered me!!
Jun 26th, 2010 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been a bit busy so thanks to those of you who responded to SA tossers when I was otherwise occupied.
I turn my attention now to avargas2001 who, it appears, is in Canada. What, avargas2001, are you doing in part of the old British Empire? A country that fought to remain British when attacked by American colonists. A country that progressed through stages to full independence but still remembered enough to be amongst the first to come to the aid of Britain in the First and Second World Wars. A country that, although it goes its own way now, still prizes its links to Britain, as does the Falkland Islands.
I have looked carefully at the history and can say, unequivocally, that the Falkland Islands was established as a British territory long before Argentina was even thought of. So the Falkland Islands are much more their homeland than South America is yours. No point in tracking back through the Argentine Confederation, the United Provinces of South America, the United Provinces of the Rio del Plata, the Viceroyalty of the Rio del Plata to plain COLONY of the Spanish Empire.
If anyone should go home it is you - on two fronts. Leave the country that you are currently occupying, no doubt on the basis of getting an education unobtainable in your own country. And when you get back to Argentina, remember that you are an illegal PLANTED by the Spanish Empire. Back to Spain for you.
Would you like to come visit where I live? It's called Aldershot. Otherwise known as the Home of the British Army. Love to see you walk into a local pub, announce your nationality and then give your views on the Falklands.
I live in America, and no matter who thinks they have the right to ask me off this continent I am proud to tell them to put it on writing and clean their back end with it, and since brits don't seem to care for our stand on Malvinas I suddenly seem to careless what a brit says, thinks or does. I still believe that the british colony in Malvinas should go to their british homeland, or get their Argentine citizenship if they really really want to stay but that's is their choice after all Argentina is a democratic country with laws and everything.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why should the falklanders do what you or your government think? You have ansolutely no right to tell them what to do. Your country needs to grow up and stop acting like an overgrown child.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There homeland IS THE FALKLANDS. They've been living there for 8 generations. Longer than ANYONE in the history of mankind.
Argentine citizenship? LOL. after all your nation has done to them? Thats just rediculous. Your country might be defined as a democratic nation but you arent acting like one.
Breaking News !!!
Jun 27th, 2010 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina’s Foreign Minister Timerman most popular person according to Independent British news Agency!
Minister Timerman occupies all top five “most commented” places in the MercoPress list.
Twinky.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're repeating yourself again!
So, Prime Minister Cameron tells Botox Queen, “Keep your hands off the Falkland Islands or we'll cut them off.”
I am a Brutish citizen, born and raised in Brutain and I vehemently demand an immediate retaliatory nuclear bombardment of Montevideo by the Brutish Royal Navy.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Larrionda
That’s why!
God Save the King
If you search hard enough im sure you can find somewhere else to post that, incase someone else hasn't seen it 8 times yet.
Jun 27th, 2010 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THIMC
Jun 28th, 2010 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0After nearly 2 weeks debating in this forum I have come to the conclusion that many of you believe that:
The Malvinas Basin can just be develop as we want, Argentina can do nothing and if they don’t want to cooperate we have other options like Chile, Uruguay or Brazil.
Well........as Mr.Beef, our resident oil and investment expert always says:
Do your own research!
(I include just a few links from an ”independent” source.)
en.mercopress.com/2010/06/23/argentine-congress-to-vote-bill-discriminating-companies-working-in-the-falklands
en.mercopress.com/2010/05/06/china-s-main-oil-corporation-closes-3.1-billion-deal-with-argentina-s-bridas
en.mercopress.com/2010/04/09/argentina-to-drill-two-wells-next-to-falklands-waters-in-last-quarter
en.mercopress.com/2009/12/10/chile-denies-any-plans-to-work-with-fogl-in-falklands-oil-exploration
en.mercopress.com/2009/07/02/ypfpetrobrasgalp-to-explore-for-oil-in-uruguayan-waters
en.mercopress.com/2009/06/09/repsol-petrobras-and-bp-to-explore-for-oil-next-to-falklands-waters
As you can read, all four countries in the region are already cooperating in substantial oil projects.
It is improbable they would risk loosing an already existing business for the sake of some “long shot” projects run by some small British oil companies.
As my Grandpapa used to say: “A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.”
Argentina’s political strategy is, of course, to make it economically unattractive for our neighbors to collaborate with anybody making business with Malvinas.
My honest conclusion as newly started amateur oil investment consultant is that Argentina can do plenty to upset the British development of the Malvinas Basin and that She is doing it.
A detail any potential investor should not be oblivious of.
And remember: Never invest more than you can afford to loose!
Think Oil Inc.
I'm pretty sure Think and Jorge! have merged into one entity, Two braincells became one.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do we know where avargas is? Not really. After all, there have been posts on here before that were critical when America was used instead of United States. But if he is........... Probably blends in well with the wetbacks. Maybe he is a wetback!
Jun 28th, 2010 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0zethe. Evolution in reverse. What happens after two amoeba merge into one amoeba? I suppose it just goes on until there's only one big blob of gucky jelly.
Canadian natives can go to hell according to this news, we have the queen of britain go to the other end of the world to steal land from Argenina and defend white pirats, but yet tha natives in Canada are put behind a court system that loughts at them, their rights to the land and lets other white groups pollute their land, they say racism is over, REALLY ?? the KKK and UK are still the same racist war mongers.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0avargas2001: Going to say this again. The queen does not run any country, nation, island or anything.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Canada, runs itself. Ask a canadian.
The queen, does not even run the UK. Thats what our Prime minister does.
Good god, is this how well most Argentines are educated?
avargas has been identified! He's a psychotic, lunatic wetback at large on the North American continent, having snuck across the US Mexican border, after escaping from his prison's psychiatric wing.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL Canada runs itself, what it UK or USA LOL, so tell me why is it that natives in Canada are not afforded the same rights as fakland ? is it because they are not white or is it because they like wetback ? I did ask Canadians they know their state is runned by USA or UK the faklanders don't know who they are dealing with yet, but I am sure BP will teach them.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Medication time Gas
Jun 28th, 2010 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0avargas2001 : You are either insane, or an idiot. Possibly both.
Jun 28th, 2010 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Canada is an independant nation. It's quite possible that the natives in Canada don't have the same rights as the falklands islands because the people in Canada are Canadian, and the Falklands islanders are British.
As for the US and UK running Canada, when we invaded iraq(uk/us invasion) Canada declined to participate. We do not run Canada.
THIMC
Jun 29th, 2010 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I luuuuv how this journalist avoids by any means to mention the ”A” word
en.mercopress.com/2010/06/28/soccer-first-played-by-the-guarani-paraguay-according-to-the-vatican#comments
He chooses to write:
Soccer was born ....in San Ignacio Miní during the XVII century, in a region now identified as Misiones to the south of Paraguay’s capital Asunción.
He should have written:
Soccer was born ....in San Ignacio Miní during the XVII century, in a region now identified as the province of Misiones, to the north of Argentina’s capital Buenos Aires.
Anyhow..... the rest of the article is just useless Catholic South-American judeo-communist brainwash.
Everybody knows that it was the Chinese who invented Football.
Gassy. Didn't a permanent ban on Wikipedia teach you ANYTHING? I read what you were banned for and it is clearly you.
Jun 29th, 2010 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why not take your crap and shove it where it will do you most good, down your throat?
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