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“We would like nothing better than peaceful coexistence with Argentina”

Thursday, June 24th 2010 - 21:55 UTC
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“We would like nothing better than to have a peaceful coexistence with Argentina”, said Falkland Islands Member of the Legislative Assembly Gavin Short addressing the UN Decolonization Committee. Read full article

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  • Marco

    ”when his family first arrived (1842) there was no indigenous population“ Of course they were expelled to mainland Argentina 9 years earlier. I guess he can say the same thing about the Chagossians.

    The book The last Colonies by Robert Aldrich and John Connell page 200

    1833 ' The Brithish commander raise the Union Jack, claimed possession of the islands and expelled the Argentinians.
    The Falklands officially became a Crown colony in 1840, a governor and a few Scotsmen arrived to establish a Brithish pastoral settlement. Argentina hotly disputed the Brithish takeover, and Buenos Aires made continual diplomatic representations over the next 150 years to recover the islands”

    Jun 24th, 2010 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    An emotive and heart warming speech. It is time that the Argentine leadership indicated whether they believe in democracy or not. Given they appear to woo regional dictators and blatant abusers of human rights then their objection to the islanders democratic rights (enshrined by the UN) is hardly surprising.

    They appear to want to ethnically cleanse the Islands and thankfully the Islanders are protected by the Brtish garrison.

    Jun 24th, 2010 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    Lies and more lies wrote by their master in UK.
    Your only independence is to go back to UK after all you want to be British.

    Britain is a good place to start with. Tickets with promo code in www.despegar.com

    Jun 24th, 2010 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    NicoDin is an example of the attitude that some Argentines have and he wishes to see nothin short of an ethnic cleansing of the Islands. Argentina has a habit of acting like a coward and this current exchange is an example of such cowardly behavior.

    Nothing will change however, the drilling continues and the surrender monkeys continue to blow hit air. Pathetic!

    Jun 24th, 2010 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    The beginning of the end.

    “The UK's attempt to claim more of the seabed around Ascension Island for oil exploration has been blocked by the UN The United Kingdom's attempt to claim 200,000 square kilometres of the south Atlantic seabed around Ascension Island for mineral and oil exploration has been unexpectedly dismissed by a United Nations panel of experts.”

    Jun 24th, 2010 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    Marco, that's just...Not true.

    Atleast i've not seen or heard of any UN resolutions. A link? I mean a credible one, from the UN. Not something one of your politicians made up.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Marco owns a book! Just the one mind .... Ascension? What has Ascension got to do with the Falklands? Other than it provides a useful base should we need to send a task force ther again!

    Nico - you need to start checking out the lies your government issues. The UK government doesn't issue any lies .. it doesn't care enough!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    I also own the Book Marco quotes Ad Nauseum he missed out nearly 50 pages on the Falklands which are less then flattering about Argentina's claim and continued violation of self-determination of the islanders .... oops!

    I will recommend some essential reading for himself:

    Chehabi, H.E. ‘Self-Determination, Territorial Integrity, and the Falklands Islands’ Political Science Quarterly, 100 (1985), 215-225.

    Dunett, Denzel. ‘Self Determination and the Falklands’ Royal Institute of Foreign Affairs, 59 (1983), 415-428

    Guldele Viciute, Vita ‘Does the Principle of self-determination prevail over the principle of territorial integrity’ International Journal of Baltic Law 2 (2005) 48-74

    Metford, J.C.J. ‘Falklands or Malvinas? The background to the dispute’, Royal Institute of Foreign Affairs 44 (1968) 463-481

    Graham Pascal and Peter Pepper Getting it right: The real history of the Falkalnds/Malvinas- A reply to the Argentine seminar of 3rd December 2007
    (http://www.falklandshistory.org/gettingitright.pdf

    Escude, Carlos. ‘Argentine Territorial Nationalism’ Journal of Latin American Studies, 20 (1988) 139-165

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Hoyt, we do not fear your task force.
    Major set backs for you today?http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2010/gacol3212.doc.htm

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Marco,
    You would be taken more seriously if you spoke some truth instead of fantasy fiction - the people in the islands at the time of the british retaking them in 1833 were NOT forced out (only the soldiers) many of those people stayed on - you know it - I know it - the world knows it. Why deny it?
    As for Ascension and St Helena - I am sure both the people there and Britain would like Independence for them- if they can get to a stable level of economic development - perhaps a controlled maritime zone would do so.
    Nico - are you so daft you are implying that our elected leaders get heir speeches written by the British?? I think we probably developed past that 100 year ago!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    MAJOR SETBACK
    Really .................... you sure? If you're right, that makes what? .... 44 major setbacks in the last 30 years. Wow, it's getting serious then.

    Grow up lad, nothing's changed.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Really? , Well, may be you are so nervous today because you did not get any, my mistake.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Yup, your mistake ... and your evidence for 'nervous'?

    No British newspapers are reporting the C-24 result, because no-one cares. This is number 44 ... that alone should tell you something.

    This resolution will be passed to the General Assembly where .... nothing will happen.

    Merely another turn of the wheel. Now I've got to do the weekly shop ... far more inportant :-)

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Of course in Europe do not care, Malvinas is part of Argentina and South America, American countries do care and support Argentina by the way.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    ”when his family first arrived (1842) there was no indigenous population“ Of course they were expelled to mainland Argentina 9 years earlier.

    Marco, not a single person in Vernet's colony was indigenous, the Falklands never had any indigenous people. And not a single member of the colony was expelled when the British took over. Only the military garrison was removed, not the population.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Marco. If you are so certain that Argentina will gain control of the islands then what would you be willing to wager, put your money were you mouth is. The C24 minutes contain nothing that indicated any change in the status quo. I have got two buy orders in that will kick in when the initial results of the Toroa drill are known. If you are so certain these companies have no future then open up a short position and let it run long term!

    The charade of the C24 will in no way affect the sp of any of the expo companies. The last thing that I and other investors are concerned about is the behaviour of some South American nations who's favorite spectator sports are football, murder and drug dealing. Come back when you have matured a bit.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    The only thing that protects the Islanders from naked Argentine nationalist aggression is the British undertaking to defend their freedom as they did in 1982.

    Argentines & South Americans should be ashamed of themselves. If the Islanders spoke Spanish or Portuguese or Italian as their native language, their attitude would be a different matter. However, because they speak English, they are only dirty Gringos they are subject to racist repression & threats contrary to resolution 1514(XV).

    Unfortunately for the Argentine state indoctrinated nationalists, their claims are spurious, illegal and unjustified. Argentina's policy is simply a policy of territorial expansion by stealing land from people under false pretext, just like Nazi Germany under Hitler, and fascist Italy under Mussolini & Spain under Franco.

    I think the Argentine fascists who decided this opportunist expansionist policy in 1940 were inspired by Hitler but inept as Mussolini. I think they expected Britain's defeat and had planned to use this to steal British territory in the South Atlantic using their propaganda as a pretext. Unfortunately for them, but fortunately for the Islanders Britain and democracy & decency prevailed.

    Sadly for the world, Argentina was a haven for Italian fascist war criminals & German Nazi wae criminals, because Argentina sympathised with their evil political ideology.

    Therefore the “Big Lie” indoctrination continued in the Argentine state education system by successive military juntas and directly led to the Argentine use of force in 1982 when Argentina thought it could get away with the crime of invasion & subjugation by force.

    The fervour of the Argentine mob for the forced incorporation of the Islanders & their lands into Argentina against the freely expressed democratic wishes is being incited by reckless nationalist Argentine politicians who seek escalation & conflict rather than peaceful implementation of resolution 1514(XV).

    Shame on Argentina.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    From the New Boy - “ ... he mentioned the ”illegal presence of the United Kingdom's Malvinas-based military forces,“ and remarked the Argentine government's ”concern“ over the ”warmongering tone“ of certain statements coming from the islands inhabitants and the British government...”

    Wow, the Argentine Government now appears to fear an invasion by the Islanders, a turn up for the books that!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Marco, your “major setback” is a draft resolution. Yes, DRAFT. Un borrador. It happens every year at the C24, they use virtually the same wording. It never gets accepted by the General Assembly. Hardly a major setback!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Can anybody see a distinct similarity between the C-24's latest statements and the previous 44 others?

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Nope - the dates are different!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    I am posting this wherever I can as Marco doesn't seem to want to respond on the appropriate article.

    As I have pointed out before, although Marcos obviously can't read anything because he's desperately trying to remember what someone told him to say:
    1806 and 1807 were attacks by British expeditionary forces on outposts of the Spanish Empire, at the time a puppet-state of the Napoleonic French Empire with which Britain was at war. “Argentina” didn't exist.
    1845. An Anglo-French naval squadron defeated and passed an embargo put in place by Juan Manuel de Rosas, dictator of the so-called Argentine Confederation, in an attempt to stop or profit from Anglo-French trade with Argentine inland cities that de Rosas did not control.

    Describe how the removal of the inhabitants of the Chagos Archipelago was an “atrocity”. And Marco conveniently forgets to mention that they were removed so that the USA could build a military base. (But he wouldn't want to upset the USA that he no doubt thinks is supporting Argentina). And then the dumb-dumb goes on to quote tens of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths. The Multinational Force Iraq composed troops of 40 nations. Four of them were South American. Can he quote the sources for attributing particular numbers of deaths to British Armed Forces?

    C'mon Marco, ante up. Quote your referenced sources for your comments. Or admit that you are just spouting government-inspired crap.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    Domingo, historically, your country was much more racist than us, so do not talk crap!
    Our claim is totally legal and justified! We won't drop it and we'll do whatever we can to presserve our rights. The current situation is your fault!!!!!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Your claim is by no means legal Jorgebobo, and it is certainly not justified.

    I think Domingo is Argentine, which makes me laugh Jorgebobo. Another own goal. The most amusing thing to me is how much you rely on all that “support” you get in the OAS, but for a long time Argentina would not join the OAS because it was too full of “grones”... You Argies are not innocent of racism and no better or worse than the British.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    The OAS are irrelevant.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Jihad Jorge. If you claim is legal then take your argument and evidence to the ICJ.

    If you are not prepared to do this then go and crawl back down the hole you came out or do something constuctive with your life like taking a trip to the Argentine Andes to scrape some salt of the floor.

    Still waiting for your secrect Al-Qaeda plan.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @J.A. Roberts

    Domingo seems to be “Yank wannabe” posting from Miami meanwhile dancing salsa, drinking Tequila and eating burritos. That’s all don’t worry BP will take care of him ASAP. Haha

    Back to your “You Argies are not innocent of racism and no better or worse than the British”

    Did we invent the slavery traffic? No
    Did we invent the Skinhead? No
    Concentration camps? No
    Colonialism? No
    The Nazis? No
    Did we exploit the Africans? No
    Did we create Apartheid? No
    Do we kill Iraqis for oil? No
    Afghani? NO

    My lawyer says we are quite clean about this but cannot say the same about you guys.

    You have all the patents of these wonderful things, so please can you say something real?

    Thanks we will appreciate accurate facts in your future post.

    Kind regards

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    “Did we invent the slavery traffic? No”
    Slavery has been around since the dawn of mankind. thousands of years before the British Empire even existed. Infact i believe us brits were once slaves(of sorts) to the roman empire.
    Did we invent the Skinhead? No
    Again, shaved head = bad?
    Concentration camps? No
    I believe you are mixing Britian up with nazi germany.
    Colonialism? No
    Technically, you was once part of spain, and you colonised Argentina, so yes you did participate in Colonialism.
    The Nazis? No
    We, the British are so very sorry for inventing the nazi's.
    Did we exploit the Africans? No
    Did we create Apartheid? No
    My history is fuzzy, but i believe that Apartheid was created after british withdrawl from the africa's.
    Do we kill Iraqis for oil? No
    UN Sanctioned mission.
    Afghani? NO
    UN Sanctioned mission.

    More than 40 nations have participated in the iraq and afghan missions. And to be honest i am not ashamed of it, i don't see why you mention it like we should be ashamed of it.

    Most capable militarys have been called to help, which is probably why your armed forces were not asked to help? Dunno.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Nicodin-
    Did you get the falkland islands back - NO!

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Still no response from Marco. Or perhaps he's Jihad Jorge or Nicotine or Twinky in disguise

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    @NicoDim,

    Did we invent the slavery traffic? No, that's been around for much longer than the UK. The Romans were shipping in slaves from Nubia when we were still running around in skins. If you mean the Atlantic slave trade then you should already know that the Portuguese started it and ended up shipped way more slaves across the Atlantic than we did, the Spanish only slightly fewer than us, so we're in good company. BTW, Argentina banned slavery in 1853, a full TWENTY years after Britain.

    Did we invent the Skinhead? No, your point?

    Concentration camps? Sadly yes, during the Boer War. At least we never through people, alive, out of the back of aircraft into the sea.

    Colonialism? No, that was around long before the UK, and what about the “Conquista del Desierto”, was that not naked colonialism?

    The Nazis? No, we fought against them, and beat them, but Argentina gave many of them a home after the war. Thanks!

    Did we exploit the Africans? Yes, but so did you. Where do you think the Argentine slaves came from - see above.

    Did we create Apartheid? No, that was South Africa, long after it got its independence (1910) from the UK, and don't try and tell me there was no colour bar in Argentina, because there still is, in your constitution: You openly discriminate against non-Europeans (ie dirty filthy “grones” from Paraguay etc), I quote the 1994 version:

    Artículo 25
    El Gobierno federal fomentará la inmigración EUROPEA; y no podrá restringir, limitar ni gravar con impuesto alguno la entrada en el territorio argentino de los extranjeros que traigan por objeto labrar la tierra, mejorar las industrias, e introducir y enseñar las ciencias y las artes.

    Do we kill Iraqis for oil? No, nor did we.
    Afghani? NO, us neither (there's no oil in Afghanistan by the way).

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • avargas2001

    I will post this again hoping everyone here gets the point, the colonist have the right and freedom to go to their homeland britain or become Argentine citizens and stay in Malvinas as every ilegal alien does in USA and Canada, what's up with this dubble standards ? I think there are more then 3000 Argentines here in Canada and I am sure they all had to do their papers, what's soo hard about that ? ooo no ! wait ! they are white people, if they where native canadians or blacks they could ship them somewhere else or herd them into a reserve, british people are a joke.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    avargas2001: They are in their homeland. They've been living there for almost as long as argentina has been a nation.

    Before they lived there, quite a few nations claimed and lived on the islands for a few years here and there. But 170 years living on those islands gives them the absolute right to live there.

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    pretty fucking old colonists avargarse 180 years continually habitation and 6 generations counting? Are they just colonists to you because they don't speak Spanish or shout viva la parrot tree every waking hour? In which case are you a racist?

    So when did you lot stop becoming Colonists? when you found hypocrisy in the dictionary no less?

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I think you will find that you Argies are the clowns,you have a chemical imbalance that effects your brains when the Falklands are mentioned,you are a laughing stock to the rest of the world

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Well Sñr Vargas, you seem to overlook a simple fact: The Falklands are not (and have never been) part of Argentina, so it is impossible for the Falkland Islanders be “illegal aliens” in their own countries, just like Canadians and Americans are not illegal alients in their own countries. The reason Argies in Canada had to “do their papers” is be cause they are not Canadian. Simple, really, although you seem to have trouble understanding these things... and especially confusing your nationalities. US and Canadian citizens are not British, so what they did to the native Americans/Canadians has nothing to do with Britain..

    Jun 25th, 2010 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Well said Mr. Roberts, just the usual wind from avarGAS !

    As for 'double standards' thats a good one coming from an Argentine lol

    Jun 26th, 2010 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    37 Hoytred: I disagree. Double Standards? They don't seem to have any standards to begin with.

    Jun 26th, 2010 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    It is a very sad & ugly fact that neo-fascist indoctrination of the Argentine population post World War II has been so successful, with the sole purpose of providing a pretext to Argentine fascist territorial expansion claims in the South Atlantic. It is a sad victory for the “Big Lie” propaganda technique:

    “in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying
    —Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X”

    The Argentine neo-fascists learnt their lessons well from Il Duce, Hitler & Franco. When they seized power, they sowed their seeds of indoctrination well, to provide a mob mentality, easy to manipulate. They have succeeded in deliberately corrupting an entire nation. A false irredentist revanchanist history has been deliberately engineered: School history text books have been falsified & children indoctrinated with propaganda slogans from their earliest ages

    This serves the modern-day neo-fascists well. AR foreign policy is all about territorial expansion, & sadly he end justifies the means.

    Shame on Kirchner & the AR

    Jun 26th, 2010 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Good point Domingo. A good example is where our colleague on these threads, axel arg, says the dictatorship lied to and manipulated the Argentine public about everything... except, apparently, the Falklands Islands.

    #132
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/09/oas-assembly-gives-full-support-to-argentina-s-malvinas-claim

    Jun 26th, 2010 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    May I beg the indulgence of mentioning that Marco STILL hasn't answered me!!
    I've been a bit busy so thanks to those of you who responded to SA tossers when I was otherwise occupied.

    I turn my attention now to avargas2001 who, it appears, is in Canada. What, avargas2001, are you doing in part of the old British Empire? A country that fought to remain British when attacked by American colonists. A country that progressed through stages to full independence but still remembered enough to be amongst the first to come to the aid of Britain in the First and Second World Wars. A country that, although it goes its own way now, still prizes its links to Britain, as does the Falkland Islands.
    I have looked carefully at the history and can say, unequivocally, that the Falkland Islands was established as a British territory long before Argentina was even thought of. So the Falkland Islands are much more their homeland than South America is yours. No point in tracking back through the Argentine Confederation, the United Provinces of South America, the United Provinces of the Rio del Plata, the Viceroyalty of the Rio del Plata to plain COLONY of the Spanish Empire.
    If anyone should go home it is you - on two fronts. Leave the country that you are currently occupying, no doubt on the basis of getting an education unobtainable in your own country. And when you get back to Argentina, remember that you are an illegal PLANTED by the Spanish Empire. Back to Spain for you.
    Would you like to come visit where I live? It's called Aldershot. Otherwise known as the Home of the British Army. Love to see you walk into a local pub, announce your nationality and then give your views on the Falklands.

    Jun 26th, 2010 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Domingo, on another thread that has closed I asked you a couple of questions. On rechecking my notes I find that I already had the answers but thank you - if only for reminding me that information doesn't seem to stay in my head as well as it once did :-)

    Jun 27th, 2010 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    We Argentines would like nothing better than peaceful coexistence with the inhabitants of our insular province Malvinas. Cheers!

    Jun 28th, 2010 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    At last some sense from Argie. Congratulations!! Just keep your noses, and all other parts of your anatomies, out of Falklands affairs.

    Jun 28th, 2010 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Typical illogical Argie comment: “We want to be friends, but we want your country as well...”

    I'm pretty certain that hell will freeze over before the Falklands become a “province” of Argentina.

    Jun 28th, 2010 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    LOL. You Roberts are such a laugh! You, being a british cannot accuse anyone of being racist, you have always discriminated “grones” and other people you considered “inferior”, you should shut your mouth when talking about racism!
    Aparte te la das de vivo y sos un logi! Apuesto a que si vivís en Argentina no te perdés un sólo programa de Tinelli! Esas palabritas que usas del lunfardo te pintan de cuerpo entero.

    Jun 29th, 2010 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    jorge, England is one of the most multicultural nations there is. apart from a few old men in the pub i dont see hardly any racism.

    Jun 29th, 2010 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    What's a “grone”? I don't believe in racism except in the case of Argentine dagos.

    Jun 29th, 2010 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    'grone' is the syllables of 'Negro' swapped around. Swapping syllables around in words is a common form of secret language among the young in South America and maybe elsewhere. And some of the resulting words, such as 'grone', have entered the general colloquial language of South American countries as well.

    Jun 29th, 2010 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    So he's accusing us of racism, while using a racist word native to South America?

    Brilliant.

    Jun 29th, 2010 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    The word 'negro' is not racist in Spanish. It simply means 'black'. Though that doesn't mean there isn't any racism in South America, because there is. Plenty of it.

    Jun 30th, 2010 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    I think it's you who should shut up Jorge. We might have been racist in the past and there is still racism all over the world, but the UK does not discriminate against anyone on the basis of their race. However you Argies CONTINUE to discriminate on the basis of race, in this day an age, in 2010. It's a disgrace, you should be deeply ashamed!

    You discriminate against non-Europeans in your constitution, yes, that's right, racial discrimination your constitution as amended in 1994. YOU Jorgebobo AND all your compatriots should hang your heads in shame!

    I quote:

    Artículo 25
    El Gobierno federal fomentará la inmigración EUROPEA; y no podrá restringir, limitar ni gravar con impuesto alguno la entrada en el territorio argentino de los extranjeros que traigan por objeto labrar la tierra, mejorar las industrias, e introducir y enseñar las ciencias y las artes.

    Jun 30th, 2010 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • katraskin II

    “To see the mote in another's eye and not the beam in one's own”
    With regard to what Jorge wrote about racism (46), well done Mr. Roberts! You made a point here quoting our Constitution. This is refreshing. Hats off to you. We should talk about IDEAS not insults.

    Jun 30th, 2010 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cadfael

    Marco, of course you should not fear our task force, after all, we are not going to invade your country ...you've got nothing worth the effort!
    In 1982, our lads killed 649, as against capturing 11,313, all of whom were subsequently repatriated.
    How many people have your government “disappeared”, do their mothers still parade with placards of the lost?
    You should fear your own government!!
    We dont!!!

    Jul 01st, 2010 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    52 J.A. Roberts, you are talking bullshit once again, you have gangs in London who act violently against inmigrants, soldiers who torturate people in Irak just for pleasure, a real family's son who wears nazi costumes, etc.

    y me podés decír ¿cómo es que el estado argentino fomenta la inmigración europea? ¿Cómo lo hace? Explicámelo ya que te hacés el conocedor de todo!

    Jul 01st, 2010 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Your not talking about our REAL FAMILY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!
    we will get the REAL AIRFORCE TO BOMB YOU

    jorgey boy if brains was explosives you wouldnt have enough to blow your nose

    Jul 01st, 2010 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    55: We have gangs in london who act violently against everyone. Crime is a problem everywhere in the world. We don't openly condone it.

    As for the nazi costume. I duno why people moaned so much about that. It was a fancy dress party lol.

    Jul 01st, 2010 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Gangs in London who act violently against immigrants? Guess most of my London friends with their best immigrant credentials have either been remarkably lucky or suffered severe amnesia.

    As for Squaddies torturing for pleasure please show the evidence, and that is quite rich coming from an individual who condones the Junta and murder of civilians and ethnic cleansing so long as it is directed against peaceful Falklanders.

    What are the real family by the way?

    Jul 01st, 2010 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Jorgebobo, whatever you say does not change the FACT that your country's constitution is RACIST!

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