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Falklands prepares for the coming 2010/11 cruise season

Friday, July 2nd 2010 - 15:14 UTC
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The Falkland Islands Tourist Board has had the first indication from cruise companies on potential numbers of cruise ships to visit Stanley in 2010/11. Read full article

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  • stick up your junta

    A little bit of England in the South Atlantic, the Falkland Islands are home to fewer than 3,000 people and the main town, Stanley, is the smallest and most remote capital in the world. A self-guided maritime history trail recalls the days when great sailing ships called here on their voyages round Cape Horn, and there are tours of the battlefields fought over in the 1982 conflict

    Visitors to Buenos Aires and popular tourist destinations should be alert to muggers, pickpockets, scam artists, and purse-snatchers on the street, in hotel lobbies, at bus and train stations, and in cruise ship ports. Criminals usually work in groups and travelers should assume they are armed. Criminals employ a variety of ruses to distract and victimize unsuspecting visitors.

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    !!! BLOODY LIES !!!!

    The Pitcairn Islands are home to fewer than 50 people and the main town, Adamstown is the smallest and most remote capital in the world.

    They are a little bit of England in the South Pacific. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3705988.stm

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Traffic accidents are the primary threat to life and limb in Argentina. Pedestrians and drivers should exercise caution. Drivers frequently ignore traffic laws and vehicles often travel at excessive speeds. The rate and toll of traffic accidents has been a topic of much media attention. The Institute of Road Safety and Education, a private Buenos Aires organization dedicated to transportation safety issues, reports that Argentina has the highest traffic mortality rate in South America per 100,000 inhabitants.

    They drive on the left in Stanley, apart from a few weeks in 1982

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    According to the documentary “Falklands - The Islanders' War”, there was an instance in 1982 when an Islander, driving on the left in accordance with FI law, was faced with an Argentine vehicle driving on the wrong side of the road. When it became clear that the Islander was not prepared to comply with silly Argentine rules, the Argentine pulled over and drove on ther left. Might defeated by Right. And it will ever be so.

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Another scam is to entice tourists into a bar known as a “wiskeria” with a flyer for a shopping discount or free show. Once inside, the victim is not allowed to leave until he or she pays an exorbitant amount for a drink.

    Deano's Bar - Port Stanley Falkland Islands One of the hottest night spots in Port Stanley!
    Always lively on a Saturday night, even opens on Christmas day.
    You will find a friendly crowd

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    I was thinking about a cruise to the Falklands and Antarctica. I really liked the idea of a cruise and visiting the Falklands and Antarctica. But it was not to be. I found it was impossible to get there without the ship putting in to a South American port. Couldn't stand that idea. No sense spoiling the whole trip.

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Drive on the left... Rape on the church

    Dave Brown, the second to stand trial on the island, is accused of assaulting a series of girls as young as five.

    During one incident, Mr Brown is alleged to have indecently assaulted a girl aged about seven in the island's Seventh Day Adventist Church as her friend looked on.

    Seven male islanders, including mayor Steve Christian, are facing 55 charges of rape or indecent assault.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3705988.stm

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    My My Think you have another hobby

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    cruise ships , im all ok with this, i hear they carry missiles as well
    just in case they run into any argie-bergie

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Domestic flight schedules can be unreliable. Occasional work stoppages, over-scheduling of flights, and other technical problems can result in flight delays, cancellations, or missed connections. Consult local media for information about possible strikes or slow-downs before planning travel within Argentina.

    Visitors can reach the Falklands on the weekly LAN Airways flight via Chile or the charter flight operated twice weekly from RAF Brize Norton

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Shame on Britain.

    More than 40% of the male population of their Overseas Territory are convicted serial rapists....
    5 years old girls!!!!
    Shame.... shame.... on you!

    For a Covetous Man to inveigh against Prodigality.......

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @stick up your junta
    “Visitors to Buenos Aires and popular tourist destinations should be alert to muggers, pickpockets, scam artists, and purse-snatchers on the street, in hotel lobbies, at bus and train stations, and in cruise ship ports. Criminals usually work in groups and travelers should assume they are armed. Criminals employ a variety of ruses to distract and victimize unsuspecting visitors.”

    “Tourists to Malvinas/Falkland should be alert that they can be trapped in a zone of conflict.
    Recent diplomatic frictions between UK and Argentina has scaled the conflict and may be possible arm conflict.” Nichido Associated press

    I think that my propaganda would be more successful than yours a couple of post in the right places and websites and I will broke your entire tourism business.

    Don’t play with fire Amigo you could end burned.

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    NicoDin. Do you have a personality disorder? From your post it appears you feel that you can destroy a whole business on your own with a keyboard and an internet connection?

    You need to see someone about your Narcisism.

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I think that my propaganda would be more successful than yours a couple of post in the right places and websites and I will broke your entire tourism business.

    Nicotine, the Argentine satanic judith chalmers

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    About (11) Think

    I’m not gone ballistic lads.....
    I was just trying to imitate the style of that Domingo turnip....:-)
    We have, of course, no right to interfere with those Islanders self-determination rights.
    Right?

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    My visits to the Falkland/Malvinas Islands have shown me principally a cold, windswept area (Port Stanley) full of 4-wheel drive vehicles being driven from bar to bar by the locals to get “loaded”, while all the manual labour (restaurant waiters and waitresses, desk clerks , etc.) being done by outside contract workers, as the locals had plenty of money from G.B. and chose not to work.

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    A Crappy Thing to Do; Argentina

    Should someone on the streets of Buenos Aires try to help wipe non-existent bird droppings from the back of your shirt, chances are that's not all they're wiping off you. Teams working in pairs use this technique to rob distracted, and disgusted, victims

    Argentina or the Falklands?

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (16) jerry
    Uhhhhhhh...........
    This comment will not be popular in here....
    If you are lucky they will ignore it....
    If not... Well.... Let's see what happens.. :-)

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Jerry - and your problem is? I've always had to walk from bar to bar getting loaded ...... couldn't afford a 4x4. Still, I'm not a jealous man :-)

    Jul 02nd, 2010 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    16: sounds simular to the uk, lol.

    Erm, what do you mean by outside contractors? they in every day to work there? Can't see that happening lol.

    If they live there. Doesn't that make them islanders...?

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (16) jerry
    Only two responses.......Well... One is pretty self-ironic.... The other... He is just a “Turnip Surprise” - “the surprise is : there's nothing in it except the turnip”.

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Think, the Sage and Onion

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Hypothetical thought Think ... leading on from Bill Hayes' view that independence for the Falkland Islands isn't unacceptable but that the real issue is getting the British out of the south Atlantic.

    What if .. the islanders in exercising their right to self determination decided that they did not wish to be British any longer and did not fancy independence ... but wanted to be a part of ... Chile instead!

    What then?

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • globetrotter

    1 & 3 How true! My wife has been robbed twice now in 3 years, our car was broken into 3 weeks ago, our house was also broken into 2 times this year, and squatters occupying my appartment in the south.....as for the traffic, 98 fatalities in Córdoba in the month of May / June alone. Methinks 2 is just a well versed gobshite who walks around in blinkers.

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Think - you have a new fan :-)

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Understandably, you want to move away from the embarrassing Adamstown Issue.
    Ok...
    But, next time one of the turnips in here, “in sincere outrage”, mentions that Argentinean officer pointing a gun to that settler’s girl..............
    Remember where your “dear fellow citizens” in Pitcairn stick their guns.....

    A similar hypothetical scenario was already suggested by me in some correspondence with Islander1 not so long ago.....
    I mentioned the potential demographic “Trojan Horse” effect of all those Chilenian (600 he said!) “outside contractors” as Jerry calls them.

    But.... The scenario is a “no starter”. The Treaty of Peace and Friendship of 1984 between Chile and Argentina. takes care of that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Peace_and_Friendship_of_1984_between_Chile_and_Argentina

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    British experience with the 1850 Convention for the Settlement of existing Differences and the re-establishment of Friendship' is an accurate guide to Argentine duplicity.

    http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1850_Convention_of_Settlement

    Res judicata? Res ipsa loquitur!

    Shame on Argentina!

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    “... The Treaty of Peace and Friendship ...” - didn't we have one of those with Argentina in 1850?

    Well, ok - maybe they would want to be Brazilian instead ...? hey, if the Turks and Cacos can seriously look at becoming Canadian, the Falkland Islanders have a huge choice!

    ps Pitcairn was a policing issue, then a judicial issue and is now a Prison Service issue ....and your point is?

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    :-)

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    :-)

    Interestingly, of course, the Islanders themselves have recently addressed the UN Decolonisation Committee & stated their view on their choice of nationality & free choice of association

    As is well- known, resolution 1514(XV) declares that repressive measures of all kinds directed against dependent peoples shall cease, & the sanctions against flights, shipping & hydrocarbons business & over-fishing policy are clear repressive economic measures under these terms.

    States may well have territorial ambitions in the South Atlantic, to increase lands and gain natural resource, & clearly as has oft been aptly said, states have no permanent friends, only permanent interests.
    Right or wrongs of these affairs are used simply to incite national mobs as a pretext to further each states national strategic aims. A ' great game'.

    This pretty much sums up the status quo, imho.

    However, rather than repeat the mistakes of the past, which lead to escalation & war, poeples should look to the guiding principles of the UN Charter and resolution 1514(XV).

    The peoples of nations can make a clear choice to abandon the territorial expansion policies of the past and seek common understanding, friendship and joint development leading to peace and prosperity or follow the old ways which have condemned humanity to war and misery.

    I'd hope that these repressive measures are circumvented, by choice of the South American peoples, rather than continued under a policy of incitement of popular bigotry against an ethnic minority, and replaced with a policy of reconciliatory and constructive relations.

    Rapprochement with the Islanders by the Argentines is what's needed, not repression. I see no sense in harming the welfare of Islanders people,
    if the aim is to peacefully persuade them to form closer times with the Argentine state of their own free will. Sadly the current policy is a policy of coercion & can easily backfire

    History will ultimately judge. Let's hope all proceed wisely

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Unfortunately the UN Decolonisation Committee consists of South American cronies.
    If the Falkland Islanders want to make a real impression, they should demand to appear at the General Assembly. Once there, they should eschew diplomatic language and tell it like it is.
    If the General Assembly of the United Nations will not give its support, they should tell the United Nations where to get off. In other words, “You refuse to support the wishes of the people you claim to be concerned about. For the future, keep your sanctimonious noses out of the affairs of our country.” It may also tell Argentina where THEY can get off.
    Britain will still be there.

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    Agreed. The UN Decolonisation Committee shall rotate members to impartial members; change shall happen. The current make-up of its committee reneges on its terms of reference to help dependent people achieve their independence according to 1514(XV) & instead corruptly follows its own biased regional political agenda; the members of the C24 are accountable for their wrong-doing and their culpability is on record.

    The General Assembly already gives its full support in its resolution 1514(XV) & confirms in resolution 2065(XX) that 1514(XV) coves the case of the Falklands.

    I see no reason why the UN General Assembly would not continue to support the UN Charter & 1514(XV) principle of self-determination as an imprescriptible, irreproachable and inviolate human right for all peoples.

    Whilst shouting in rage about C24 might be satisfying, it would produce little good I hope you feel better now you've got that off your chest. Better here, than at the UN!

    It is clear that the only thing that protects the islanders from Argentine colonial annexation against their will is the British guaranteeing their right to self-determination according to resolution 1514(XV)

    Argentine & other South American colonial states have been used to subjugating indigenous peoples & are furious at their impotence to subjugate the Islanders who resist all coercion

    Argentina is very lucky the British do not consider them a mortal enemy; rather as a truculent bad-mannered ill-behaved spoilt child Otherwise they would truly discover what military power was to there everlasting detriment. In 1982 the British deliberately limited their defence to the Falklands to avoid escalation & to ensure the survival of the Argentine state as an ally of the USA. No such consideration would protect the Argentines from unrestricted warfare if they invade the Islands again

    Argentina's fascist policy of political & economic oppression against the Islanders & escalation & confrontation against the UK is a disaster

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the only thing that stops the Falkland islanders from invading Argentina
    is the Hugh embarrassment the Argentineans would suffer at the UN .
    and the thought of argentines taking the Falklands to the European court of human rights claiming compensation for hurt feelings .lol

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    In 1971 Chile and Argentina agreed to binding arbitration to settle a boundary dispute (Beagle Channel Arbitration). On 22 May 1977 Queen Elizabeth II announced the judgment, which awarded the Picton, Nueva and Lennox islands to Chile. On 25 January 1978 Argentina rejected the decision and attempted to militarily coerce[1][2][3][4] Chile into negotiating a division of the islands that would produce a maritime boundary consistent with Argentine claims.

    The Argentine military planned an operation codenamed “Operación Soberanía” (Operation Sovereignty). The date for the assault was fixed for either 21 or 22 December 1978.

    Jul 03rd, 2010 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (34) Stiky

    I love when You people use our material at Wikipedia...

    If you are interested in the continuation... read some of my stuff :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina-Chile_relations

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Argentina rejected the decision
    So thats why the Argies wont go to the I C J over the Falklands

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Question solved!
    Case closed!
    The rocks are Chilenian
    You are still a “Turnip Surprise” - “the surprise is : there's nothing in it except the turnip”.

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    So, Twinky, parts of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina-Chile_relations are yours? Should have been able to tell by the poor English.
    Shall have to consider comments on the Discussion page to the effect that material is being written by a Argentine nationalist with propaganda based views.

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Twinky why are the Falklands the same colour as Argentina in the map?dont you know they belong to the UK

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    according to britainiapediaexpert.com [dont try looking for it][top secret] , the islands at the bottom of argentina and chile, should be independent in their own right, and if they in turn wish to become british, we will be only to happy to help them out lol

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    If Think is such an expert on the Beagle Channel dispute, then he would know that one of the things that blew the Argentine case out of the water was Argentina published numeorous maps in the 19th Century showing the disputed islands as Chilean. The same maps do not show the Falkland islands as Argentine and they also call them the Falkland Islands - common in Argentina till the 1930s.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_Channel_cartography_since_1881#The_Argentine_change_of_policy

    Another of Think's articles.

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (41) Justin
    How “turnip” can you be?
    Or are you drunk?

    In ALL the maps from the Wikipedia link you provide, the Malvinas are called Malvinas!

    What's wrong with you?
    With enemies like you, I don't need friends :-)

    Jul 04th, 2010 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    The only propaganda comes from UK to brainwashe ignorant islanders and it works well, but won't last for ever.

    Jul 05th, 2010 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Anyway, lets get back to the Merits of the Falklands over Argentina

    There are three churches including the Anglican Christ Church Cathedral the southernmost cathedral in the world. The cathedral makes tiny Stanley a city. .

    Ushuaia (Spanish pronunciation: [uˈswaʝa], English: /uːˈʃwaɪ.ə/) is the capital of the Argentine province of Tierra del Fuego. It is commonly regarded as the southernmost shithole in the world

    Jul 05th, 2010 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    I do understand that many cruise ship tourists are urging cruise companies not to bother with South American ports. A holiday is no time to view third-world poverty at excessive prices.
    Although there have been queries as to whether “native” South Americans will dive for small coins.

    Go for it, jorge! & co. Could be a chance for you to raise your standards.

    Jul 05th, 2010 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    in the years to come the falklands will grow in size, sadly this will happen,
    the population could well reach 30,000 , two large towns, beach hotels for the tourist, anything can happen , as the falklands get richer,?

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    you are right; future will come a prosperous kelper nation; with towns, hotels & mc donalds.

    a future with a no britain in south atlantic. britain is the underdeveloper factor; Malvinas has to potential to be like TDF, with two towns, as mr.B said.

    For medium grade oil only posibility are pipes; 400kms pipes.

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    or 2 million barrel capacity super tankers,to take all that lovely oil back to blighty

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    sadly the british will be around for centuries at least, the question is WILL argentina still be around, or a part of a greater brazil, or chile, you never know whats around the corner,

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    South America is, regrettably, stuck between two extremes. Argentina at one end and Venezuela at the other. Neither is particularly important, either in the world or on that continent. Sooner or later, the intelligent nations will marginalise them and then take them over.

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    hey harrier; your dealer is cheating you; the drugs you are buying are not good for mental health...bad alucinations.

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    Billy will hook you up with his dealer.

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    as long as all the wealth sails past argentina this way, who cares

    Jul 06th, 2010 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Don't drop your 'aitches Billy ... very bad English!

    Jul 07th, 2010 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Sorry, Billy. You are so off-base.
    Used to spend much of my life catching drug smugglers.
    Mostly from your part of the world.
    Quite successful too!

    Jul 07th, 2010 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    WOOOOT?
    I didn't know the Royal Mail had Anti Drug Smugglers commandos!!!
    What did you do?
    Open all Parcels from Holland?

    Jul 07th, 2010 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    Such a shame, think used to be such an intelligent person, it seems that pure nationalism has overclouded this intelligence, and as such he has devolved him in to a random spam posting argentinian.

    Jul 07th, 2010 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JoJo

    Perhaps harrier61 rather mixed with photomodels, oops, wasn't there one hiding in BA a few weeks ago?

    Jul 08th, 2010 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (58)JoJo
    Yeahhh nice chick that Colombian model....

    But i “think”, harrier61 is more interested in Brazilian shemales....
    I found a “nasty ”post from him once in “The Sun” volunteering to “Perform some duties in Brazil”......... Say no more.....

    Jul 08th, 2010 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Hey, put away an Argentine transexual. Pity. Preferable to put away all Argentines, castration, deportation. Problem?

    Jul 08th, 2010 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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