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Kirchner ‘social grassroots leader” proposes celebrating “Son of the b… Day”
A thug described as a “social grassroots leader” belonging to the Kirchner couple’s ‘black shirts’ cadres has proposed Argentina celebrate August 2 as the Day of the “Son of a b….” which is when former military dictator Jorge Rafael Videla was born. Read full article
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Jul 09th, 2010 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0'social grassroots leader', black shirts' - Hmmm, Think, why are you watching the political extreemists in Holland and Denmark? Seems there's some work to be done at home?
Jul 09th, 2010 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you can see at the picture ....
Jul 09th, 2010 - 06:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0he's wearing a pale shade of blue shirt.
.... next to the same shade of tie, ho humm it's a colourful world isn't it :-)
Jul 09th, 2010 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are mates after all... and..... blue and white are a popular color combination in Argentina.
Jul 09th, 2010 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's in mufti
Jul 09th, 2010 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0#3...to answer your comment from another section several days ago...here you have your cheer leader supporters of a “democratically elected junta in a different frock”
Jul 09th, 2010 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(7) Globetrotter
Jul 09th, 2010 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand now why you are having so many problems with Argentineans.
You say that people is occupying your properties, mugging you, robbing you, treating you badly etc.
Well.........Your comparison of our actual government with the old Juntas, makes me feel a profound and primal urge of slapping your face....................twice.
D’Elía has also admitted that he received $1 million (U.S.) from Chavez in Venezuela a few years ago to disrupt a meeting in Mar de Plata, Argentina because President Bush was attending.
Jul 09th, 2010 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why comment?
Jul 09th, 2010 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is still run by gangsters.
Twinky is just an apologist/propagandist.
#8. I would like to suggest you learn to read what was written elsewhere, before making stupid comments. I have no problems with my neighbours, I do carry strong objections however, towards those elements within our society which support extremism...left, as well as right and, I most certainly cannot condone the ever increasing crminal elements witin our society, who feel free to target the innocent and vulnerable. Most especially not when I or my family are affected. Gröfaz projected his image, influence and ideology in precisely the same manner. If you are unable to distinguish between this, and canvasing for political gain, in a democratic society, makes me believe you also support these methods.....head butt to your nose senor.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0You write at (7):
Jul 10th, 2010 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Democratically elected junta in a different frock”
This says it all for any thinking Argentine person!
You are comparing some of the most abject beasts this world has seen to a democratic elected government.
No political repression since 1983.
No political prisoners since 1983.
No disappeared since 1983.
No military or political aggressions against our neighbors since 1983.
The whole repressive “Top Brass” jailed or on their way to jail.
Total freedom of speech and press since 1983.
An amazing Social and economical rebound since 2001 where Argentina was virtually bankrupt be it morally or economically.
I could go on and on.
And you have the nerve to call us a “Junta in a different frock!”
Just because your wife got mugged in a bus?????
No amount of corrective “sweet talk” at (11) can erase that.
I profoundly dislike your “kind” and yearn for your prompt return to your society.
Evidently Argentina is not your society, even if you dishonestly say so in your text.
No political repression since 1983.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0No political prisoners since 1983.
No disappeared since 1983.
No military or political aggressions against our neighbors since 1983.
The whole repressive “Top Brass” jailed or on their way to jail.
Total freedom of speech and press since 1983.
courtesy of Her Majesty's Armed Forces
Sticky, allow me to modify a little bit your text.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Catalyzed by Her Majesty's Armed Forces”.
That would be more correct.
Your Armed Forces where the fundamental factor in the break-up of our Armed Farces.
No doubt about it. Thank you.....
But......
If you are aware of that....
Why do you speak to us as if you where speaking to our old Armed Faeces?
As I have said before your democracy is extremely questionable and you most certainly do not have freedom of the press.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.sipiapa.com/v4/index.php?page=det_informe&asamblea=25&infoid=389&idioma=us
K's have learned their dirty tricks from Chavez. Luckily Argentinians are a bit more educated and don't let them take it quite as far.
or political aggressions against our neighbors since 1983
Jul 10th, 2010 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are aving a larf aint you fink
(15) fredbdc
Jul 10th, 2010 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why not use the Real Thing?....
I wonder why?.....
Hmmmm....
The Press Freedom Index?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
Number 1:
- Shared by Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Norway and Sweden.
(No surprises here.........)
Number 20:
- Shared by Luxembourg, United Kingdom and USA.
Number 43:
- France
Number 44:
- Spain
Number 47:
- ARGENTINA (Yes Sir....... Argentina.....)
Number 49:
- Italia
(16) Stick
If you by any chance are referring to the Settlers in Malvinas.... Well.......
They are no Neighbors of ours, they are Squatters.
Twinky
Jul 10th, 2010 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“No political repression since 1983.
No political prisoners since 1983.
No disappeared since 1983.
No military or political aggressions against our neighbors since 1983.”
You have evidence of this of course? Not your unsupported word. Just some substantial non-South American sources.
If you by any chance are referring to the Settlers in Malvinas.... Well.......
Jul 10th, 2010 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are no Neighbors of ours, they are Squatters
Quite scary,Junta speak
Partly free is not free
Jul 10th, 2010 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/fop/2009/FreedomofthePress2009_MOPF.pdf
How can someone squat on land they're been in possession of for 177 years and have claimed sovereignty over for 320 years (I'm in a 1690 mood). In the UK a person can gain rights through 'adverse possession' in only 12 years. Is there not some similar law in Argentina?
Jul 11th, 2010 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0(21) Hoyt
Jul 11th, 2010 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wooooow.....
Has this“little detail” about the Argentinean legal stand on the “Squatters” eluded you so long?
No wonder we have an Issue!
Sorry Think, Argentina doesn't have a legal stand .... legless in fact!
Jul 11th, 2010 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0And WE have NO issue :-)
Legless??????.......... Legless!!!!!!
Jul 11th, 2010 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0As a Pyramid you mean?
Nope ... as a man with no legs ... nothing to stand on!
Jul 11th, 2010 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean... ........
Jul 11th, 2010 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Firmly planted on his ground without any prospect of stumbling?
:-) A man with no legs is merely arsing about!
Jul 11th, 2010 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like this one?
Jul 11th, 2010 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Pistorius
In case you tire of argie pilots daring do in the Falklands War
Jul 11th, 2010 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader
(27) Hoyt
Jul 11th, 2010 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You better apologize the cripplings.............. they can outrun you and the can shot you down! :-)
Repeat.
Jul 11th, 2010 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twinky
“No political repression since 1983.
No political prisoners since 1983.
No disappeared since 1983.
No military or political aggressions against our neighbors since 1983.”
You have evidence of this of course? Not your unsupported word. Just some substantial non-South American sources.
Jelou Guys............
Jul 11th, 2010 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Usefull Info for Debaters:
(Monobaters, just keep reading “The Sun”)
Full 2010 Report on Argentina:
(Square and Fair critic)
http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=22&country=7771&year=2010
Good Critical English E-News about Argentina:
(Written mostly by PomSinArg)
http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=22&country=7771&year=2010
Have a Sunny Sunday
#12. evidently you fail to read and digest what your eyes see.“democratically elected junta in a different frock” is rhetoric and a catachresis as opposed to a common metphor or similie. Therefore old boy, no comparison was made. Beyond this however, I do not agree with some of your denials and, since there is insufficient space here, I can only touch upon a few examples:
Jul 11th, 2010 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Telecommunications and media laws were introduced by Videla...yes he's in prison together with other cronies but, how convenient of successive governments to keep this law active? The K's attempted to reform this only very recently however, the reformed laws will prove to be fuurther state manipulation through the appointment of 7 members of a regulatory body, of which 5 are incidentally from the state besides, we all know the relationship between media and the K's. The media we have, is a prolongation of that introduced by Videla.
You have conveniently ommited to recognise that the present government were colaborators of the junta. There is ample information available both at home and overseas. The attitudes and direction of this government has not changed significantly since those days.
Only the pressures applied on successive governments by leading human rights organisations, international goverments & individuals, particularly from Europe (since 1983) brought about necessary changes to the judiciary which, until 2005 was incapable, unwilling to make democratic changes to civil laws. Many laws introduced during the 70's still fail to conform with the highest standards of civil liberty and privacy. Correo argentino is a good eg. There are a multitude of other irregularities which successive governments are loath to deal with.
There is an inherent, disturbing racist, macho attitude within society, with historical roots going back to the persecution of indios, negros, and women.
My impression is that you fit into the later category, and support the likes of D'elia or even Julius Röhm.
“Rhetoric a catachresis as opposed to a common metphor or similie” my arse...
Jul 11th, 2010 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Boys - Boys - Stick to the subject!
Jul 11th, 2010 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(35) Jerry
Jul 12th, 2010 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0This IS the subject!
Thugs and acolytes.
Globetrotter’s intention when planting terms like “GröFaZ” “Rhöm” or “Democratic Juntas” on his opponents are unmistakable...
However, his deep satisfaction when mentioning those things is evident; there he is at home.
Subsequently he Denies, Attacks and Reverses the Victim into the Offender.
He may fool the British readers in here with his “balanced critical tone”
But I have been dealing with his kind for decades and I can smell them from a long distance.
Repeat.
Jul 12th, 2010 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Twinky
“No political repression since 1983.
No political prisoners since 1983.
No disappeared since 1983.
No military or political aggressions against our neighbors since 1983.”
You have evidence of this of course? Not your unsupported word. Just some substantial non-South American sources.
Think here
Jul 12th, 2010 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well lads.......
The moment finally arrived...
My account has been “Regulated” (Closed:-)
Too much “Foul language I suppose???
After too many years with censorship in Argentina I don’t “think” it’s funny so..... ....
Let’s see if they delete this farewell!
(Sending this from a new account just to say good bye to the “intelligent ones”)
Take care
No happy returns for Twinky.
Jul 14th, 2010 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Today Arg. is the first country to aproval the gay marriage in Latam, and 10th in the world. Gays Uruguayan and people from Malvinas (with their Arg Documents) can marry here too in a real develop country. If the Malvinas people want to leave their dictartopship regime (like Cuba) could make their documents in a real free socity in Ushuaia (Capital of TDF, Antarctica & South Atlantic Islands Province) . All press around the world have shown this new , except Mercopress of course.
Jul 15th, 2010 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Today Arg. is the first country to aproval the gay marriage in Latam”
Jul 18th, 2010 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mexico legalised same sex marrage a couple years back.
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