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Argentina expects more than five million foreign tourists in 2010

Monday, July 19th 2010 - 02:37 UTC
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Argentina is expecting over five million tourists this year, a historic record which represents a 15.5% increase over 2009, said Tourism Minister Enrique Meyer. Read full article

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  • Billy Hayes

    while 16% more; in kelperland the same but less.

    dispute is at kelper´s cost; big money; don´t fortget shareholders cost.

    Now I can understand why FKL invest her money in UK instead kelperland.

    dispute means money; when it will be end? I vote for negotiations. If I were a kelpers I will try independence when I talk about selfdetermination. Uk is a strange body in south america and is the main cause of kelper´s economic loss.

    Jul 19th, 2010 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Fred

    There would be more tourists in the Falklands if the cruise ships were not penalised by Argentina with respect to their passenger exchange stops having to take place in Ushuaia. If Argentina had not put in a ban on charter flights through their airspace then the cruise ships would have continued to change their pax in the Falklands. Yes the dispute costs the Falklands money but only because Argentina thinks that they can blockade the Falklands and for some reason think that by doing so will make the Falkland Islanders want to become Argentine. The most simple solution would be for Argentina to drop their silly claim and then everyone can start thinking about living in some degree of harmony. Billy you may vote for negotiations but to you I say Foxtrot Oscar!

    Jul 19th, 2010 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (2) Falkland Fred

    1) Argentina is not “blocading” Malvinas.
    We just don’t want anyone using OUR infrastructure to conduct any form of business with the Islands.
    We are working hard to convince our neighbours Chile Uruguay and Brazil to do the exactly the same.
    Right of admission reserved..... You know?...
    We don’t need your business.
    We don’t want your business.
    We don’t want you.

    2) Nobody in Argentina is dreaming about the Islanders becoming
    Argentinean. We would very much wish you to leave today sooner than tomorrow.
    But we are ready to respect your interests...........not your wishes.

    Everybody down here knows what those “wishes “are.
    And they are not “to live in some degree of harmony” as you so nicely put it.

    The British aggressive and intransigent position about oil exploration, the other South Atlantic Islands and Antarctica has made it clear for everybody.

    Jul 19th, 2010 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    Fred, I understand you are bitterly demanding cooperation and Argentina to drop her claim.

    Allow me to ask you a question...what are you prepared to offer in exchange to see your demands acomplished??

    If you are not prepared yet we can wait, don´t worry.

    Jul 19th, 2010 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Dont take no notice of think Fred, he is a bit grumpy been demonstrating a wee too much

    Despite a strong recovery, the economic and political crisis of 2001-02 has left its mark, particularly in the form of increased inequality and poverty. With around 35% of the population living below the poverty line there are occasional outbreaks of social unrest and demonstrations, which at times turn violent. You should monitor local media and avoid planned demonstrations and public gatherings. There has been an increase in the number of demonstrations outside the British Embassy by various activist groups in support of Argentina's position on the Falkland Islands.

    Jul 19th, 2010 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    they say the DEVIL has many followers,
    enough said

    Jul 19th, 2010 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Tourism Contributes 5% of GDP
    The Falkland Islands Tourist Board this week launched the Islands’ first Tourism Satellite Account (TSA), a United Nations endorsed international standard for measuring the true economic impact of tourism. The TSA reveals that tourists spent £6.6 million in the Falkland Islands in the 2008-9 season, 43% of which was spent by cruise passengers, with a further 43% spent by air passengers and 14% by domestic tourists. The spend of £6.6 million represents 5% of the Falkland Islands’ GDP, which is a significant value in comparison with many other countries

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (7)
    And thats precisely why we are targeting it!
    Plan is:
    1) Cruise Lines will have to choose: Malvinas or Argentina.
    (We are working on Chile and Uruguay to do the same.)
    2) Working hard for the cancellation of the Lan Chile's weekly flight Punta Arenas- Port Stanley.
    (The Cueto family is not totally negative to a closing of this“marginal” route in exchange for a better “slot allocation” to Buenos Aires)

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    “And thats precisely why we are targeting it!”

    Never mind that it violates free trade agreements but then what is any agreement with Argentina worth? Like loan agreements for example.

    Cancelling the Lan-Chile flight won't affect the Falklands but it will simply make it more difficult for the families of the fallen to visit their relatives grave, assuming of course they get past all the crap that the Argentine Government puts in place.

    Coercion, always how the “mighty” Argentina is going to impose its will, never mind the historically dubious nature of its claim, or the agreements its signed etc. Dream on, you will be ignored as usual, Argentina is utterly irrelevant to the Falklands, it made itself that way.

    What pray tell is the balance of payments with the UK? Perhaps we should start targetting Argentine exports, seeing as we import 3 times what we export.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (9) Justin Kuntz

    The denial of use of infrastructure to ships or airplanes destined to potential “conflictive zones “ does not violate any free trade agreement.
    If you have any info that contradicts me, I would like to get a link..........

    Canceling the Lan Chile flight will:
    1) Deny the Islands of their first source of underpaid labor, the Chileans. No more cheap waiters, receptionists, cleaners, fishermen etc....
    2) Deny the possibility of any “triangular” tourism.
    3) Made clear for the Islanders that the aggressive British position on the South Atlantic/Pacific and Antarctica has antagonized others than Argentina.
    4) About the families of the fallen......... a minimal extra sacrifice in comparison with what they already have given, Mr. Kuntz.

    To finish, Argentina has no intention to let our little “Malvinas Issue” affect our excellent commercial relationship with Britain.
    We are very happy with our commercial balance with the UK and look forward to continued and improved business with private British companies (as long as they don’t participate in any Malvinas activities, of course)

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Think

    When you see a baby have a tantrum and throw all his toys from his pram do you try to ameliorate the problem or do you just laugh at him?

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    go on think treat yourself for next year
    http://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingportstanleyfalklandislands-10feb2011.html

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (12)
    Season 2010/2011:
    Already contracted and paid. We honor, of course, all existing agreements with the Cruising Lines. We don't want to antagonize them. They are darn good business!
    Season 2011/2012 and onwards:
    A total different story. Cruising Lines are informed and have plenty of time to choose and decide where they want to Cruise.......

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Cruises To Port Stanley, Falkland Islands get in quick twink

    Arriving
    During/On

    November 2010
    10 18 23

    December 2010
    04 12 24 26

    Arriving
    During/On

    January 2011
    02 11 12 14 23
    26 30 31

    February 2011
    02 04 08 10 13
    15 16 24

    March 2011
    02

    November 2011
    14 17 25 30

    December 2011
    05 10 15 16 24
    25 31

    Arriving
    During/On

    January 2012
    13 14 17 18 21
    27 28 30

    February 2012
    06 11 12 25 28
    29

    March 2012
    10 15

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    :-) Do me a favor..... Remenber to check the schedule in about 9 month OK? :-)

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Another great deal by British Petroleum and UK pirates. Let's all go to Libia!
    http://campbellbrown.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/15/senators-question-whether-bp-played-role-in-pan-am-bombers-release/?iref=allsearch

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Uhhh Marco.... Now you are in trouble......
    They don't like to hear about their corruption or creepy, sneaky, dodgy, crooked, dishonest, dubious shady dealings.
    Remember:
    The British are Human and Right(s)

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    @Think interference with free navigation is a violation of the UNCLOS, an economic blockade is of itself illegal without a UN resolution and given the balance of payments is in your favour, you have more to lose than we do. Feel free to act like a bunch of petulant children if you like, it will be to your detriment. But come as no surprise to anyone.

    Cancelling the Lan Chile flight will deny Chileans the right to work abroad, so what. They're merely replaced by someone else who wants the work; ie nothing changes.

    Doesn't deny the chance of triangular tourism, it will simply mean that Argentine ports miss out - like they did the last time. ie nothing changes.

    There is no aggressive posture from the British or the FIG; it is you that are talking up the dispute and proposing coercive measures. The FIG has made conciliatory overtures only for Argentina to spit its dummy out. ie nothing changes.

    And I simply note your utter lack of compassion for the bereaved, which simply reflects the fact that for the last 30 years Argentina has had the bad taste to use even the corpses of the dead to push its illogical, irredentist claim to land it never owned. ie nothing changes.

    This is why you're irrelevant and no matter what you do it will remain that way, ie nothing changes.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Abdelbeset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi, now 58, was released on compassionate grounds nearly a year ago after a doctor testified that he was dying of cancer, a decision that Scottish, British and Libyan officials

    Whats that got to do with us ENGLISH PIRATES that usurped in 1833 blah blah ENGLIHS COLONY blah blah.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (19)Stick
    Sometimes I wonder if you are pulling my leg or you really are so naive???

    A little touristic message for all of you on the“Old Car” (min 6:30 - 6:45)
    http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=QFrXqC77POc
    Enjoy

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Except that the decision to release Megrahi was one made by the Scottish Government, which was under the control of the Scottish Nationalist Party. It had nothing to do with the UK Government, controlled by the Labour Party and the SNP would have be delighted to highlight any coercion from the Government. Equally the current Conservative/Liberal Coalition Government would love nothing better than to hold any underhand dealings over the previous Labour administratioin.

    It was a courageous decision to make on compassionate grounds, to release a very ill man to spend his final days with his family. But then as I noted early, compassion isn't high on the Argentine agenda, particularly when you can make a cheap shot. Personally I agreed with it then and still do now. Keeping the man in jail would have been spite not justice.

    Don't judge people by your own low standards.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    You are forgetting a “liiiiitle detail”

    Mr. Al Megrahi has as much Cancer as I have British blood in my veins..

    Zero, Nada, Rien , Niente :-)

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    holy shit!!

    these bloody franchutes have that contagious disease!! malvinitis!!!

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Les Malouines , bien sûr.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Think, even for you denying a fact that anyone with an Internet connection can easily verify, one that not even the people who didn't want him freed would dispute, is stupid, mendacious and merely illustrates what an utter imbecile you are.

    But then here is an indepent document which spells it out:

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/07/144854.htm

    The decision to release Al-Megrahi was taken by the Scottish Government.

    The deal supported by BP was concluded a year before he was released.

    Al-Megrahi could have been transferred to a Libyan jail under the terms of the PTA. The Scottish Government chose not to.

    And everything is on the public record.

    Those are the facts, I disagree with the US and current UK Government's asessment that a release on compassionate grounds was wrong. To have kept a dying man in prison would have been spiteful and motivated solely by revenge, it would not have been justice.

    Go on Think, spit out your usual poisonous bile, if its how you justify your rascist outlook to yourself, go for it. Just goes to show what a pathetic little man you are, judging people by standards lower than a snake's belly. Your are an utter hypocrite.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Nice insults Mr. Kuntz
    Two facts:
    1) Mr. Al Megrahi is alive and kicking.
    So will he be next year...and next... and next ...and next... and next.. and next........etc.

    2) You government used the same “sick” excuse (on an inverse form) with your own personal dictator Mr. Augusto Pinochet.
    Remember?

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Ah right, so Megrahi hasn't died yet so fair game for sick innuendo, such compassion. I repeat don't judge others by your own standard, they merely expose how low you'll go.

    Pinochet who even Chilean officials recognised had dementia, what stopped him being tried in Chile? It didn't stop Argentina taking advantage of the situation to blackmail the British did it?

    And how many senior members of the Junta in Argentina saw jail time, I mean serious jail time, not a light slap on the wrist house arrest.

    Continue with the innuendo, people in glass houses and all that. Let the facts speak for themselves, including your own appalling record of hypocrisy and chutzpah.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    No he is not dead and he will not be for a loooong looooong time....

    My compassion lies more on the side of the 270 Lockerbie victims.

    Even if my “personal” opinion is that Mr. Al Megrahi was just a “fall guy”

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Think you cant even catch em to let em go

    The embassy attack was followed by the July 18, 1994 bombing of the Buenos Aires' AMIA Jewish Center, which housed several Argentine Jewish organizations, that killed 86 and wounded about 300.

    After nine years, the government investigation has not produced results. Nobody has been tried. Nobody has even been arrested.

    The bombing of the Buenos Aires Israeli Embassy was the biggest attack against Israel abroad. Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres has urged the Argentine government to “redouble efforts to find those responsible for the attack and bring them to justice.”

    International organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League and B'nai B'rith continue to press the Argentine government to vigorously pursue its investigation. “The embassy bombing -- and the AMIA attack -- are issues of paramount importance to Jews around the world,” said B'nai B'rith International President Richard D. Heideman. “They should be so also to Argentina and all other countries as well. They were mass murders -- committed in violation of Argentine sovereignty and in disdain for the most elemental human rights.”

    The Argentine government also continues to be pressed for results by the Jewish Community of Argentina. Carlos Susevich, who lost his daughter in the attack, said, “We don't want to beg for justice, we demand it. We want the same fervor used in political speeches and campaign promises to be used to get results in the investigation.”

    Why hasn’t the Argentine government succeeded to find the terrorists? Could it be a matter of incompetence or corruption?

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    @Think, #10.

    You say:

    “The denial of use of infrastructure to ships or airplanes destined to potential “conflictive zones “ does not violate any free trade agreement.
    If you have any info that contradicts me, I would like to get a link..........”

    Happy to help. Argentina's repressive measures against the Islanders may not violate any free trade agreement, but it does violate UN General Resolution 1514(XV) which Argentina is bound by General Assembly majority vote to uphold for the Islanders, i.e.:

    http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_1514

    which covers the case of the Falklands/Malvinas, which Argentina voted for and the General Assembly passed by unanimous vote 89:0 and specifically demands Argentina & all member states of the UN cease :

    “All armed action or repressive measures of all kinds directed against dependent peoples... in order to enable them to exercise peacefully and freely their right to complete independence, and the integrity of their national territory shall be respected”

    and,

    “ Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence and freedom.”

    The Islanders have used their self-determination to express their democratic wish to remain British and to retain free association with Britain.

    Therefore Argentina should respect their choice, according to the UN Charter and Resolution 1514(XV).

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    And Think, if the Government had simply wanted to wash its hands of Megrahi all it had to do was transfer him to a Libyan jail per the PTA concluded a year before he left. Feel free to continue with the slanderous attacks, coming from the man who defended the Kirschners and their fabulous wealth, wealth in part accrued by vulturous acquistion of people's homes who'd lost their incomes in Argentina's economic woes but claims to defend the poor. Never mind the utter hypocrisy.

    Regarding your feigned compassion for the 270 victims of Lockerbie, its not in the least bit convincing coming from a man who lauds the Junta's invasion of the Falklands, the same Junta that murdered 30,000 Argentines.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (16) Marco
    I warned you at (17) didn't I?

    “They don't like to hear about their corruption or creepy, sneaky, dodgy, crooked, dishonest, dubious shady dealings.”

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    “They don't like to hear about their corruption or creepy, sneaky, dodgy, crooked, dishonest, dubious shady dealings

    You tend to shy away from yours

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Think

    That is BS and you know it, I'll condemn the Government for anything that is corrupt or dodgy, like the Iraq War or Diego Garcia - and I'm on the record doing so. But then I don't need to spread smears to justify “corruption or creepy, sneaky, dodgy, crooked, dishonest, dubious shady dealings” to myself the way you feel compelled to do.

    Not so long ago, you were defending the Kirschners and their “corruption or creepy, sneaky, dodgy, crooked, dishonest, dubious shady dealings”, like the suitcases of cash, the back handers etc. Don't judge people by your own standards.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    The only thing I have “ on record ” from you is that you are a very “foul mouthed” uneducated debater.
    Anybody can see that reading just this thread.......

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Dealing with “Terrorists” the argie way

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    So to hypocrisy, you can add lying, seeing as my views on several matters is a matter of written record, one that can easily be checked.

    Foul mouthed? Calling BS when you're spouting it is simply direct speech.

    Equally anyone reading this thread can see you for the mendacious hypocrite that you are.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    :-)

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Yawn, null points, do not pass go, do not collect £200.

    Stick a fork in this one, its done.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Think (#)
    The British are Human and Right
    THINK this is the most honest thing you have said, and we all agree with you,
    well done, we will convert you yet,

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Looks like the UK GOV. released a murdered terrorist who had few weeks to live(they said), bunch of liars like always , he can live like a king for ten years in Libia and free. Hundreds in the airplane and some in land did not have that chance.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38256677/ns/world_news-europe

    Think , I love the message written on that car: Malvinas Argentinas.

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    we did not release him , the scottish governent did,

    Jul 20th, 2010 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    BP has admitted that it lobbied the British government over a prisoner transfer deal with Libya in late 2007.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    Kadaffy´s son said no prisoner no oil deal. deal done!!

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    Sorry did not know Kadaffy's son rules UK...
    UK always will do anything for money.. and then put excuses and lies to justify their illegal actions.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (40) Briton
    :-)))))))))))))))

    The slogan of the Argentinean dictatorship was:
    ”The Argentinean are Human and Right(s)“

    So.... No surprise that you lot likes:
    ”The British are Human and Right(s)”

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    No so hot on your guests Human Rights
    http://www.globalpolitician.com/21744-argentina-bolivia

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (47)
    Human exploitation by humans is a big concern for our government and we work hard everyday to make conditions better for our fellow citizens.
    Just like Britain:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Morecambe_Bay_cockling_disaster

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Ah yes Think, illegal immigrants, exploited by criminals to work illegally and for minimal pay, criminals who have been brought to book by the British Government. But then the typical Think technique of distraction by posting links to unrelated material.

    And again for the Argentines who missed it, the Prisoner Transfer Agreement was agreed a year before Megrahi was released. There was nothing to stop him being transferred to a Libyan jail.

    But then as it seems that Argentines have no compassion or respect for Human Rights please continue with the smears. Judging people by your own standard merely shows how low they are.

    So if you're so concerned about corruption, why do you invest so much in defending the Kirschners. So what isn't corrupt about a suitcase full of cash in the middle of an election.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    The disaster led to the Gangmaster Licensing Act 2004 and the formation of the Gangmasters Licensing Authority

    And the argies?

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    DYOR

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Twinky. I revert to this because you have reverted to your previous perverse and inane ways.

    Let us consider your comments on this thread:
    No.17. Diversion. From an expert in the field of corruption or creepy, sneaky, dodgy, crooked, dishonest, dubious shady dealings. An Argentine. No.22. You are a doctor? And you have examined the individual? More diversionary crap! No.26. Where do you get your crystal ball? Or is just “voices in your head”? Another unsupported diversion. No.28. Too late for compassion for the victims. Your “compassion” would be more appropriate to the bereaved relatives. And “fall guy”? You have evidence. Sorry, I was forgetting. He comes from a country much like your own!! No.32. No response to 29-31. Just a little private conversation with your brother delinquent. No.35. But you don't debate. You just interject mindless, irrelevant, snide remarks. So how would you be qualified to judge? No.48. The only exploitation your “government” is concerned with as how much of it they can get away with before the deluded population finds out the real truth.

    So. Inescapable conclusions. You. Waste of space. Hot air. Narcissist. Snide. Conceited. Argentine.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cadfael

    THERE IS NO CONNECTION!
    The yanks are very good at conspiracy theories, making tenuous connections where there are none! I sometimes wonder if they have Erich von Danniken working for them!
    Megrahi was given a compassionate release based on the best medical evidence available at that time, by Scotland's justice minister.
    My own feeling is that Megrahi was simply the fall-guy.
    What ever happened to the guy in Malta who reportedly emigrated to Oz? I doubt we'll ever know the real truth, sadly!
    It has nothing to do with BP, Westminster, Cameron or Obama and they should all keep their gobs shut till they KNOW what they're talking about.
    Whatever grilling Cameron gets in the states is nothing compared to the stick he'll get when he comes up here ..or deserves to get at any rate!!
    THERE IS NO CONNECTION!!!

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    But Argentina should protect its infrastructure, its airports, its ports, its services. Good idea to plant metal bars all around their borders. At least it'll keep the buggers in!

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (53) Cadfael

    Ahhh..... Mr Von Däniken he was a character (just checked, he’s still alive!)

    “There is no connection!!! “You say......
    Old story, BP has already admitted it.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66E1JJ20100715
    How many other Libyan prisoners where/are in British jails?
    How many have been exchanged or released not counting Mr. Al Megrahi?

    And then the classical “Washing of Hands”
    “It was not us it was Scotland!”
    “It is not ours it’s the Falkland’s”
    “BP is not British, it’s international”

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    So, Twinky, no responses to uncomfortable questions?

    Just hot air. Be useful for once. Trot off and contribute to your “country's” methane production.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    No there is no connection, BP lobbied for a prisoner transfer agreement, agreed a year before Megrahi was released. All done in the open and unrelated to the Megrahi release.

    BP lobbied the UK Government, openly, it did not lobby the Scottish Government who alone had the ability to release Megrahi under the PTA or on compassionate grounds.

    Yes is leaves the UK open to smears by people with an agenda but its better than closed door deals with suitcases of cash the way they do it in Argentina.

    And yes BP is international, its BP Amoco, stemming from a merger with a major US company. The initials BP haven't stood for British Petroleum for some time.

    So again, please explain why you resort to smears, yet defend the Kirschners caught bang to rights with a suitcase full of cash for cough, cough ... er.....um .....“consultancy fees” (bribes)? Hypocrisy, nationalist jingoism and a complete lack of either credibility or principle?

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (57)
    Think more insult less.

    The Kirchners are quite well off.... Yes...and getting richer by using politics... Yes.... Probably corrupt ... Yes.... Never denied it.

    But........................Nobody is presenting any proof.
    Even their worst enemies can only produce something like this:

    “The fortune of Argentine presidential couple Cristina and Nestor Kirchner soared 700% since they first took office in 2003, according to their latest income statements delivered to the country’s Anti Corruption Office.
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/07/09/kirchner-couple-fortune-climbs-20.6-in-one-year-totalling-14.5-million-usd

    But after that................... just a lot of hot air........
    700% increase in seven years ......remarkably good but hardly impossible.........

    In comparison; their fortune is only 1/3 of Tony Blair’s£ 40 million:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/07/09/kirchner-couple-fortune-climbs-20.6-in-one-year-totalling-14.5-million-usd

    Or 1/5 of Mark Tatcher’s £60 million:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/07/09/kirchner-couple-fortune-climbs-20.6-in-one-year-totalling-14.5-million-usd

    I refresh your memory about the fact that your politicians get very rich very fast too.
    Maybe not by buying cheap land in Surrey but by negotiating big Arms Contracts or getting incredibly well paid retirement jobs in “African” Oil Companies or unusual mixtures of commercial, charitable and religious income streams or whatever.....

    So stop whining and get real........

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Where did I ever defend Tony Blair? Specifically I am on the written record as criticising his decision to go to war in Iraq.

    Where did I ever defend Mark Thatcher? Never commented on him, I do think his dealings are dodgy.

    As usual Red Herrings to distract from your own failings.

    You did defend the Kirschners and yet acknowledge they are corrupt - specific example suitcase full of cash. Specific example, documented fact which I note you ignore yet again.

    All you've claimed about Megrahi is smears and innuendo, zero basis in fact. You take what is in the open, try to make more out of it than there is. The guy was given 3 months, he's terminally ill. Point of fact, my grandfather had terminal cancer and was given 3 months, stubborn bastard took 10 years to die just to prove them wrong.

    I am whining about nothing, I'm confronting a mendacious, lying hypocrite that is all.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    At least Tony Blair had the decency to step down before coining it in

    So stop whining and get real
    should be branded on every Argies forhead in relation to Falklands concerning the Falklands

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (59)
    In short, yet another similarity between Britain and Argentina.
    Corruption is a plague and should be eradicated.....

    I do like the Kirchners, no secret about that. They are doing a great job.
    I do like Lula da Silva, no secret about that. He is doing a great job.
    I do like Pepe Mujica, no secret about that. He is doing a great job.
    I do like Evo Morales, no secret about that. He is doing a great job.
    I do like Fernando Lugo, no secret about that. He is doing a great job.
    I even like Sebastian Piñera. He is doing an OK job.

    Lawyers, union man, freedom fighter, indian peasant, catholic bishop or billionaire. All of them fine democratic elected presidents.

    Thirthy years ago South America was one of the bleakest places on this planet
    Today we have a bright future.
    And Malvinas is the perfect catalizator for our new progressive forces.
    An oddity in the South Atlantic defended by a group of grumblers with a deep nostalgic colonial frustration.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    defended by a group of grumblers with a deep nostalgic colonial frustration.

    No defended by Her Majesty's Armed Forces,and that is what so frustrates you bullies

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    ““The fortune of Argentine presidential couple Cristina and Nestor Kirchner soared 700% since they first took office in 2003, according to their latest income statements delivered to the country’s Anti Corruption Office.”

    And by what percentage has your fortune “soared” in the same period, Twinky?
    “Today we have a bright future.” Turn around, you've been staring into the sun for too long. Try the real world. Export markets collapsing, energy supplies failing, can't work in international money markets, tiny archipelago 300 miles away telling you to bugger off and mind your own business, international forums you have managed to subvert not really helping your illegal aspirations. What a sorry bunch you are.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    58 Think:
    “It was not us it was Scotland!”
    “It is not ours it’s the Falkland’s”
    “BP is not British, it’s international”

    1. Scotland is britain.
    2. The islands are “ours” untill they wish not to be.
    3. A mostly american owned company who messed up while being staffed by mexicans. Not a british matter.

    Jul 21st, 2010 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Right so smears and innuendo but lauding Argentine officials demonstrably tainted by corruption.

    There we have it folks, Think in a nutshell.

    Jul 22nd, 2010 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    So.... No surprise that you lot likes:
    ”The British are Human and Right,, yes think, as you said,
    you crafty old fox, you always admired the british, hearts and minds week, be nice to our secret admirers, , you cant cant get away from it, you like the british,

    Jul 22nd, 2010 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    I don't specially dislike them....

    Jul 22nd, 2010 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    No-one would have been able to tell...............

    Jul 22nd, 2010 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    67 Think (#)
    I don't specially dislike them
    .........
    yahhhhh, we know you admired the brits you old dog,
    still you need to take sides, , think is a brit admirer

    Jul 23rd, 2010 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    How about a million homosexuals, a million lesbians, a million transexuals and a million hermaphrodites.

    What a gay town Buenos Aires will be. Won't be able to turn round for................!

    Actually, probably best not to turn around.

    Jul 23rd, 2010 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    mind you its woth THINKing about

    Jul 23rd, 2010 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cadfael

    I wouldnt like to be named Ben Dover!!

    Jul 24th, 2010 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argentino

    harrier61: “What a gay town Buenos Aires will be. Won't be able to turn round for................!”

    The same as London and many other british cities, right?

    Jul 25th, 2010 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    THIS is REALLY GOOD news!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE&feature=related

    Jul 25th, 2010 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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