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Timerman meets Hillary Clinton to elaborate bilateral and regional agenda
Argentine Foreign Affairs Minister Héctor Timerman is travelling to Washington for a series of meetings with several of US President Barack Obama's advisors in relation to regional, economic and nuclear issues in Latin America. Read full article
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Aug 11th, 2010 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/Timerman-reunido-Hillary-Clinton_0_314968678.html
yes marco, the worlds first cross dresser to meet Hillary, he has to learn to crawl if he is to impress her into helping Argentina find the great Malvinas, perhaps its in the Bermuda triangle, lol
Aug 11th, 2010 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sorry briton that Mr Obama and Hillary does not support your case anymore. Remember a few months?
Aug 11th, 2010 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7047309.ece
Hello from the USA (Will be back in the UK on Sat).
Aug 11th, 2010 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marco - What you miss is the fact that the USA has always held a position of neutrality. The UK response was “thanks but no thanks” and I didn't see the US finding this response offensive. Does the USA support the Argentine position? A = No.
Let us look at some facts.
The Ocean Guardian is owned by a US company. US support there then!
The FI oil companies are also listed on the US exchanges. US support there as well!
When it comes to diplomacy it is important to spread your wealth so the US will say the right things in Argentina to gain some regional popularity. As Argentina's claim to the Islands is a non-issue the comments earlier this year were not even raised when Cameron and Obama met recently. There are far more important issues to deal with compared to domestic Argentine discourse.
As far as the US and UK are concerned, Afghanistan not Argentina is the more important issue.
When your leadership are ready to have a grown up discussion the UK and the FI govt will be more than happy to sit down and look to foster greater economic collaboration.
Really beef?
Aug 12th, 2010 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/25/president-obama%E2%80%99s-refusal-to-back-britain-on-falklands-is-disgrace/
Yep Marco really. If you wish to continue to post links to biased right wing blogs then why not go the whole hog and quote Fox News?
Aug 12th, 2010 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like I identifed above, Diamond Offshore Drilling is a US company contracting its equipment to the FI drilling and the companies have listings in the US.
If you are happy with non binding verbal discussion (not support if you read closely) the carry on as you are. I prefer my support to be something tanglible with a dollar value.
Explain how the US (or any other country for that matter) is supporting your claim to the Islands with $?
Run along little boy.
Today they talked again about malvinas. Mr.T didn´t say the word sovereignty.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hillary knows that is for the best interests of american business that the parts find a way to solution.
Beef, since you are in the US, you should know that Obama administration has no sympathy for oil companies,. foreign or locals.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0He put a moratorium on deep drilling in the gulf of Mexico for 6 months, after British Petroleum disaster, oil companies hate him .
On top of that the British tortured his grandfather, he mentioned that in his book.He is not friend of UK believe.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3543882/Barack-Obamas-grandfather-tortured-by-British.html
(6) Beef
Aug 12th, 2010 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Goodmorning
I have a pair of questions about oil..............(your favorite)
Maybe you can help :-)
1) What's happening with the shares of Argos Resources? Flat line on 33P for a whole week?
2) Shouldn't Rockhopper have been out with some news already?
Good or bad?
3) Any thruth about those comments from Germany and Hong Kong about Rockhopper's Sea Lion? Some people are begining to ask serious questions about the credibility of the fund. Comparing it to Desire's trick some time ago.
“British Petroleum disaster, oil companies hate him .
Aug 12th, 2010 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0On top of that the British tortured his grandfather, he mentioned that in his book.He is not friend of UK believe.”
First of all, it's not british petroleum.
Yes that was mentioned in his book, and at first when gordon was in charge things didn't look good, since cameron has taken over, they have a very good relationship, even drinking beer with eachother, talking often.
The US was neutral last time on this subject untill it went to war, they they offered all sorts of help.
Nomatter what blogs say there is no proof that the UK and US are best of allies, we usually always help eachother out im times of crysis, this will not change.
Marco: Obama is not going to be around after 2012 and will have his hands tied with the new Congress in 2010. What the Ks did to Bush on his last visit was a disgrace and has not been forgotten. Argentina is not strategic any longer you don't produce anything anyone needs. The US has stronger allies in Chile, Peru, Colombia and strong trade with Brazil what would they need with Argentina? NOTHING. CFK couldn't even get a private meeting last time, had to talk in the hallway between meetings. UK has been our strongest ally for 200+years in the end we will ALWAYS support them.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fredbdc is right. The term special relationship is more than a term bitish MP's love to use. It's a level of cooperation that no two other nations have.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0british-US companys joint work on black ops which are usually classified to other nations. Intelegence sharing which has recently spread to austrailia and canada has been going on since the end of the second war. One of our carriers was recently invited to join a US navy war game to prepair for our new carriers, which will be slotting in with us carrier groups when the need arises. Us marines and harriers on british ships learning to cooperate better.
If it did kick off again im sure the US would be more than happy to lend us a few harriers(ours are no longer air to air) our pilots are trained to use the US ones, or i guess we could un-retire the sea harrier.
Marco - For your information opinion on oil expo is very split out here at present. The moratorium is being challenged by others in the US government. As the US is a mature democracy then you can have support even if the president doesn't wish to be vocal. On the ground (I am near to the Gulf by the way) most people think that BP has done a good job in fixing the problem especially be employing those that have lost their jobs by the disaster.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0(9) Think
1 - It was an IPO, what do you expect. The current sp is 31.75. Oil expo companies only move on developments and ARG will require more seismic data for and big ins or outs.
2 - No. The RNS said 30 days from spud. We could have something early but I would not expect any early news until next week.
3 - RKH have logs, wireline data, api and confirmed resevoir quality. How can this be similar to DES's first drill? The est on 242m recoverable is a low estimate (significant upside potential) and the flow test is the only way to get more data. For anyone to come up with any suggestions on sea-lion would require them to get a rig, re-enter the well and perfomr further testing.
By on rumour - sell on fact. Hope you are learning from me Think.
Question for you, Billy. How do YOU know?
Aug 12th, 2010 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(13)
Aug 12th, 2010 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm certainly learning :-)
1) About Argos: I do not know what I was supposed to expect but ...........with all the hype on all those “Independent” oil specialists blogs I Think I was expecting some more.........
2) Same blogs mentioned above are saying otherwise... a bloke is complaining about having to wait sooo long to buy hia new BMW X6 :-)
3) Yes, RKH surely has all that fine stuff you mention but............. has anybody outide the company seen them?
As you know,“ I know nothing”
Beef,”On the ground (I am near to the Gulf by the way) most people think that BP has done a good job in fixing the problem especially be employing those that have lost their jobs by the disaster”
Aug 12th, 2010 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been drinking in Orleans?, Americans are so angry about the destruction of the coastal areas, fishing, lost of jobs, lost of tourist , they want to throw in the water anybody with british accent, not to mention how much they love Tony Hayward...
MARCO. How do YOU know?
Aug 12th, 2010 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marco: You are wrong, although we aren't happy that we had this accident BP did a great job and we are not about to stop drilling for any reason. What you see on the media are a bunch of eviro-terrorist crying, the rest of us know that we need the oil and are willing to take the risks to get it. Again, we do not hate the British everyone loves them here.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they want to throw in the water anybody with british accent,
Aug 12th, 2010 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am ok then they think I am a Australian when I speak :-)
They think you are a monkey when you speak :-)
Aug 12th, 2010 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats not nice piltdown ponce :-)
Aug 12th, 2010 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0marco you just throw mud to the wind, and see who picks it up.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0everybody thinks British petroleum, but people like you and the rest of the brain dead totally miss the facts,
1, it is not British petroleum, [its just BP]
2, the Americans own a very big chunk of it
3, the oil rig was not made or owned by the british, or BP
4, the rig had American management and crew .
5, a storm caused this to happen,
6, yes a brit in charge was chosen to face the American press.
and mess it up,
7, now an American is in charge, same company same problem
8, if the Americans destroyed BP they would suffer just as much.
9, all will turn out in the end, its just one of those things in nature that happen, as long as you have oil wells./ rigs their will be accidents, [savvy]
BP stopped being british when they merged with an american company called AMOCO. Which is when it renamed to just BP.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shareholders are as such.
UK 40%
US 39%
Europe 10%
Rest of world 7%
Misc 4%
The only british thing about the company was as you said, at the time it had a british CEO. The Chairman is swedish. six British directors and six Americans. 22,000 american employees, 10,000 british.
so in fact, the Americans should have got equal blame with BP
Aug 12th, 2010 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0swings and roundabouts ?
American legistation, american workers. British CEO.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0briton, zethe. You are wasting your time. People like Marco and Billy the Haze wander around with their eyes shut and their hands over their ears to avoid seeing or hearing anything that challenges their psychosis. Notice that Billy hasn't come up with an answer to my question at (14) and Marco hasn't come up with an answer to my question at (17). Now you've come up with some FACTS. So either someone will say you're lying or they'll go off at a tangent. It may even be time for Twinky to join in with one of his non sequiturs.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree, but it's fun to feed the trolls. Although, i shouldn't pick on people less fortunate than i am.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I agree, but it's fun to feed the trolls.”
Aug 13th, 2010 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's the only reason I hang around here. It's fun to trip up their fantasies and logical gymnastics on facts. Intelligent debate is a non-starter...
I'm pretty sure that some of them even believe the stuff they come out with.
Aug 13th, 2010 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You reckon? I still believe they have to trot off and ask some government department what they're supposed to say next!!
Aug 13th, 2010 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on guys you cannot feed a dead duck.
Aug 13th, 2010 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway Zethe can you find someone from London to have a more interesting conversation?
The smell of countryside is just killing me, wooff
Richmond, Kew Garden or Kensington would be a plus.
Thank we will appreciate that.
Are you assuming that i'm not from london? I live in north central london, islington.
Aug 13th, 2010 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's your own smell, Nico.
Aug 13th, 2010 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0better the fields of london, than the killing fields of argentina,
Aug 13th, 2010 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rbread and born in notting hill now live in the countryside,
luvly jubly
FREDBDC.
Aug 16th, 2010 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have to answer you here, because the other articule is already closed.
Firstly, you are misinformed as usual, the 5000% of inflation that we had once, happened during the hiperinflation of 1989, during the decade of the 80, our economic growth was very weack, so, you are wrong.
Beside, it's notable how you keep on understanding just what you want, i never denyed the serious problems of my country, and inflation is one of those problems that must be solved, regarding the delicuence, i dont deny it neather, thet are planty of delicuence cases, but the reality is not exactly what the media shows, i go to dance every saturday in the night, and i come back to my house after 22hs every day, and i am not affraid, i only take care of my self, the day that i feel affraid, i dot get out of my house any more, some times people uses some words, but they actually dont know really what they means.
Beside if you watch the news chanels, you would feel that every time you take a breath, we have a new delit, but when you get out to the street, you''ll see that the reality is not as terrible as the media shows, it makes really a perverse treatment of the problematic of the delicuence, beside argentina is not only buenos aires, if you travel no more of 200 km from the metropolitan city, the delicuence almost does not exist.
About inflation, i respect your posture, but i dont agree with you, i can talk about my experience too, beside, i repeat that any of the prediction of those false economic gurus finally happened, that's why i dont believe in what you say, because you repeat exactly the same than them, i here since 2003 that my country is going to fell again, beside last year all of them almost assured that we were going to have a new default, were you aware about a new argentine default, i wasen't, they also forecasted that the crisis was going to be terrible for my country, and finally we all know what happened.
“Beside, it's notable how you keep on understanding just what you want”
Aug 16th, 2010 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Speak for yourself Axel!
Axel: I can't teach you an economics class in this forum. Suffice it to say you are pretty well through the expansion part of your economic cycle and due for the crash. As I said before the economists that have been predicting the crash didn't take into account the theft and redistribution of private property that CFK has perpetrated over the last few years to keep the expansion going.
Aug 16th, 2010 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once INDEC is reporting correct inflation again, they wil have to recalculate the CER interest payments for the last few years. ARG owes MULTI BILLION US$ in back payments. This will probably limit their ability to sell new bonds IN-COUNTRY until it is paid.
As for security, it is bad and getting worse. If I can be mugged in broad daylight in front of Recolta Cemetary with Police on every corner, it is out of control. It is not crime but it is security, doesn't having 21 deaths this year on public buses alone ring any alarm bells? Seriously what is wrong with your country?
I still heard beeeeeeeee
Aug 16th, 2010 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@fredbdc
“Seriously what is wrong with your country”
Nothing, but I see a mess in yours.
What is wrong with your country fredbdc?
“Nothing”
Aug 16th, 2010 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL.
@ nicotine
Aug 16th, 2010 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0there's nowt wrong with the country,just the inhabitants
Do you mean in UKI Sticky?
Aug 17th, 2010 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Zethe
Are you Yank? You confuse me all the time mate.
You're South American. Of course you're confused all the time. Off to see the psychoanalyst again in the morning.
Aug 17th, 2010 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yea, the SA “continent is isolated” without you.
Aug 17th, 2010 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let´s make it an absolute concept: remain us isolated.
FREDBDC:
Aug 17th, 2010 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding the indec, no one believes in it, we all take into account only the private stadistics, and i think that what you say about the cer is truth, but forget about the posibility that the gov. maybe changes it, the kirchner are not idiots, they are corrupters surelly, but not morons.
Regarding what you call a theft of private property, i think i can guess what you mean, i think you are refering to the nationalization of the pension sistem right?, it's one more show about how little you know about us, private pensions were a big trick, it was necesary to recover them, because in the future, people were going to charges 2 pesos.
Since the pension sistem was nationalized, it gives a better protection to the poor people, and it funds also every kind of productive projects that create more and more jobs, i know that it's repugnant for your to read this, because it's fucking socialism, but like it or not, its works very weel, it gives full support to the small and big enterprises, and the 90% of our children have a social protection.
Regarding what is going on in my country, i already told you what i think about it, every country have serious problems, including mine, but we have also good aspects, your problem is that your idiot resentent does not let you recognize them.
I am not economist, but my life experince makes me distrust of most them, including those from the foreign, i am sure that i a going to hear in a couple of days that argentina is going to default in 2011, that's why what YOU economist can say, is irrelevant, anyway i will keep on reading your comments, and comparing them with te reality, and will see one more time, tat you are just rediculus gurus, only a few economist are respectable, and they dont coincid in absolut with your catastrophic predictions.
Axel, Since you like to do so much research why don't you find one country in history that has done what the Ks are doing and show me how it they succeeded. Do yo think the laws of economics don't apply to Argentina? Unfortunately Miceli and CFK thinks so! Don't you remember Miceli getting laughed at during her last World Bank speech here in DC? Do you think everyone one is wrong but CFK? You really need some help. As i said before one of us will be right and one will be wrong but I have time on my side.
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