Britain and France could share their aircraft carrier capability in a dramatic co-operation pact designed to maintain military power while cutting costs, it has been reported, reports the UK Press Association. Read full article
After all; France and Great Britain have a long history of…. friendship…….
That proves that “minor differences” should and can not hinder cooperation between countries…...
Will be quite interesting to read those: Special protocols about what should happen if a uniquely British interest, such as the Falkland Islands, comes under threat when the French are in charge……. :-)
Such a union has been discussed many times in the past. It makes sence for the two most powerful militaries in the EU to share capacity.
The Falkland Islands are also of interest to Europe and the explicit mention in the Lisbon Treaty makes Europes position clear. Even Spain distances herself from the Argentines by saying it is a bilateral issue.
I think this, if it happens will be the start of a one europe army, france has in the past asked to use british carriers for this task and i believe it's the way forward.
1 Think: If it was to happen, the whole point would be that if either nation came under attack, then both nations navy's would spring into action, that would be the only point in having the new system. If the french were in charge at the time, they would be backed up by whatever british ships were in the area and sail on down to the islands. Same as if a frence territory was attacked and we was in charge.
Not going to happen. The British public are up in arms against it with suggestions that Fox and Cameron be prosecuted for treason.
At the same time, calls are being heard for the £30 billion profit expected from the taxpayers' share of the banks to be ring-fenced for the armed forces.
Since when do the Brits care about a “one european army”?
If their is a problem in the Falklands (UK) and they might need the help of the French. Do the French really care about helping you in that area they barely have interests in? Remember, their French department (French Guiana) is more secured and has more stable neighbors, Brazil and Surinam (former Dutch Guyana where they Speak English on the west, center Dutch, and in the east French, though their official language is Dutch while the people speak for fun on the streets in their capital NegroEnglish, what is a mix of Dutch, English, Portuguese and African words... fascinating)
okay back to the so called European Army. Are Europeans that really united for an European Army with so many differences in their cultures? I doubt that, and I'm sure the experts who know it better than me, doubt that either.
On several occasions leaders of both france and the UK have mentioned a one europe army. If this was to happen, it would be a start on a very long journey.
Nicholas, You are right, currently they have no reason to care about the islands. IF, and i say if. This agreement was to go through, which is doubtfull, then both navys would be automaticly pledged to help eachother, nomatter the conflict in the event of an invasion on eachothers territory, it would be a pact of mutual defence, the french know that we would honor the agreement and aren't affraid of a fight.
It would also boost the power projection of both fleets.
This is the reason the world needs to build up their nuclear defence programs, what do you all think this ships are used for if not to opress other nations, I never heard any of this ships being used for anything other then war, get the hint people, don't you all be acting like blind stupid sheeps, build your defence programs as Israel, Pakistan and India did.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA mature and sensible “cost cutting” decision…..
Aug 31st, 2010 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0After all; France and Great Britain have a long history of…. friendship…….
That proves that “minor differences” should and can not hinder cooperation between countries…...
Will be quite interesting to read those: Special protocols about what should happen if a uniquely British interest, such as the Falkland Islands, comes under threat when the French are in charge……. :-)
Should be easy to organise ..... after all, there are 'uniquely French interests' in South America too :-)
Aug 31st, 2010 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0(2) Hoyt
Aug 31st, 2010 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0So we agree that Malvinas, yet again, are a Special Case as the C24 so correctly concluded :-)
Such a union has been discussed many times in the past. It makes sence for the two most powerful militaries in the EU to share capacity.
Aug 31st, 2010 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands are also of interest to Europe and the explicit mention in the Lisbon Treaty makes Europes position clear. Even Spain distances herself from the Argentines by saying it is a bilateral issue.
I think this, if it happens will be the start of a one europe army, france has in the past asked to use british carriers for this task and i believe it's the way forward.
Aug 31st, 2010 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 01 Think: If it was to happen, the whole point would be that if either nation came under attack, then both nations navy's would spring into action, that would be the only point in having the new system. If the french were in charge at the time, they would be backed up by whatever british ships were in the area and sail on down to the islands. Same as if a frence territory was attacked and we was in charge.
Not going to happen. The British public are up in arms against it with suggestions that Fox and Cameron be prosecuted for treason.
Aug 31st, 2010 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the same time, calls are being heard for the £30 billion profit expected from the taxpayers' share of the banks to be ring-fenced for the armed forces.
Since when do the Brits care about a “one european army”?
Aug 31st, 2010 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If their is a problem in the Falklands (UK) and they might need the help of the French. Do the French really care about helping you in that area they barely have interests in? Remember, their French department (French Guiana) is more secured and has more stable neighbors, Brazil and Surinam (former Dutch Guyana where they Speak English on the west, center Dutch, and in the east French, though their official language is Dutch while the people speak for fun on the streets in their capital NegroEnglish, what is a mix of Dutch, English, Portuguese and African words... fascinating)
okay back to the so called European Army. Are Europeans that really united for an European Army with so many differences in their cultures? I doubt that, and I'm sure the experts who know it better than me, doubt that either.
On several occasions leaders of both france and the UK have mentioned a one europe army. If this was to happen, it would be a start on a very long journey.
Aug 31st, 2010 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nicholas, You are right, currently they have no reason to care about the islands. IF, and i say if. This agreement was to go through, which is doubtfull, then both navys would be automaticly pledged to help eachother, nomatter the conflict in the event of an invasion on eachothers territory, it would be a pact of mutual defence, the french know that we would honor the agreement and aren't affraid of a fight.
It would also boost the power projection of both fleets.
This is the reason the world needs to build up their nuclear defence programs, what do you all think this ships are used for if not to opress other nations, I never heard any of this ships being used for anything other then war, get the hint people, don't you all be acting like blind stupid sheeps, build your defence programs as Israel, Pakistan and India did.
Sep 01st, 2010 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I never heard any of this ships being used for anything other then war
Sep 01st, 2010 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then you need to read more you idiot, naval vessels are often used in humanitarian efforts to give nations aid and they combat piracy all the time.
What other use, other than killing everyone on the planet has a nuke got?
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