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“Malvinas pending issue for United Nations”, says Argentine ambassador Argüello

Monday, September 20th 2010 - 23:26 UTC
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Every day it becomes more difficult for the UK to justify before the international community why it looks down on United Nations General Assembly resolutions, said the Argentine ambassador before the UN in direct reference to the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty dispute. Read full article

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  • Hoytred

    The 'usual' statement from Argentina, to be followed no doubt by the 'usual' response from the UK. After 200 years you'd have thought that even Argentina would have worked out by now that they are not likely to get their thieving hands on the islands!

    As for anything being a 'pending issue', well the Falkland Islands are no issue at all.

    Sep 20th, 2010 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ale

    Mr#1 “well the Falkland Islands are no issue at all”
    Probably true in Europe or in the moon where you live.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Ale - if it was a real issue it would have been resolved a long time ago ....! It isn't an issue for anyone but Argentina, which is why nothing changes. I am a realist, unlike most Argentines.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Ale, Too be honest,not really an issue in S America either outside Argentina is it?
    Interesting that the Int Court of Justice recently ruled that SelfDetermination takes precedence over Territorialintegrity claims as well.
    What is the point of discussions at the Un when one side has the issue prejudged with only one possible outcome - full transfer of sovereign power and creration of a Colony against the wishes of the population?
    Sort of against the basic principles of the UN slightly isnt it?

    She will no doubt come up with the usual rant, and throw in the farce of UK alledgedly nicking her oil and risking polluting her nation when we are downwind etc! And a few countries that need a favour or two from Argentina will cheer and clap - we have all been here many times.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Ale, Spain has had a 300 year claim to Gibraltar, they don't make it an issue anymore.
    Morroco has had a 500 year claim to Ceuta Melilla, you don't see them making an issue.
    Argentina claims Chiles glaciers why don't they make a fuss about that.
    Bolivia claims part of Chile where is the UN demands.
    Venezuela claims 3/4 of Guyana where are the UN rants.

    Nope the only person kicking up a fuss is Argentina, easy you see to look macho and tough bullying 3,500 islanders.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    International Law? I thought the ICJ was the legal organ of the UN not the GA?

    I suppose Argentina must take the matter to the ICJ then?

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    “Nope the only person kicking up a fuss is Argentina, easy you see to look macho and tough bullying 3,500 islanders.”

    you may note that the real “machos” here are the ones that brought you there on the first place. There's no bullying, we want what's our, and the cost of that is your “indenpendence” by the british empire legislation.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    But they're not yours and never has been ..... and in relation to the article above, the British don't justify .... they quite clearly state that there is no doubt about the sovereignty and it's British !

    The Falkland Islands ARE British .... get used to it :-)

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    Dear Hoytred;

    Falkland islands are the british name for Malvinas and that's a disputed territory that's pure objectivity stated in many resolutions elsewhere YOU GET USED TO THAT, ISLANDERS ARE BRITISH NOT MALVINAS NOR FALKLANDS.

    “and in relation to the article above, the British don't justify .... they quite clearly state that there is no doubt about the sovereignty and it's British!”

    So what? Argentine govt. said Malvinas are Argentine. That's why it is a dispute, isn't it?

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    That's why it is a dispute, isn't it?

    In your little world maybe,the Falklands are not Argentine end of

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    “Malvinas” is a corruption of the French name for the Islands. Argentina has no claim to the Islands. Argentina is just greedy. The Islanders are staying and there is nothing that Argentina or the whole of South America can do about it. Don't bother with the UNGA, they are powerless. As is Mercosur, Unasur and the OAS.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    “the real “machos” here are the ones that brought you there on the first place”

    Well bugger me sideways I didn't know Immigrating by your own accord was an act of masculinity, In that case Argentina has a well deserved reputation for Machismo since it is the an even bigger Bastardized European immigrant nation than the Falklands.

    “There's no bullying”

    I guess then the 10,000 banditos in 1982 read the map wrong and got lost, and Madam Jerkners current hysterical rhetoric about how the a great Pan Latin American alliance of arse lickers the likes which haven't been seen since last week will crush and strangle the hordes of evil evil brutal bloodthirsty nasty islanders who oppress poor little Argentina by sitting on 12,000km2 of Rock and peat 400 km away from your nearest outpouring of nationalist outrage .... is but a mere slip of the tongue?

    “we want what's our”

    In my country If a man comes and knocks on my door and demands my house based on the fact that 200 years ago, someone ran an unsuccessful cattle venture from a mudhut in my less than aesthetically pleasing backyard, we tend to tell them to go forth and multiply several times with themselves.

    “cost of that is your “independence” by the British empire legislation”

    How benevolent of you to liberate Islanders, Now here is the million $ Question, what happens if the islanders say no? and what exactly is this “British empire Legislation” you speak of?

    “ISLANDERS ARE BRITISH NOT MALVINAS NOR FALKLANDS”

    And who has granted you the moral authority to decide peoples perception of themselves, shall we look at your CV?

    1. Are you and Islander: No
    2. Have an Islander relative: No
    3. Ancestors who were Islanders: No
    4. Live in the Islands: No
    5. Ever Visited the Islands: No
    6. ever Spoken to an islander: No
    7. Been granted the moral power and authority by democratic consent of the islanders to decide who and what they are: No

    Is it me or are Malvinists thick, inbred or both?

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Both and more.

    Sep 21st, 2010 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    What dispute? We have no doubt about British sovereignty .... didn't I just say that?

    As for meaningless resolutions from the discredited C-24 ..... well, as I said, 'meaningless' !

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    ...“creration of a Colony against the wishes of the population?”...

    - Tell that to the people living in the islands in 1833!!!

    ...“Argentina claims Chiles glaciers why don't they make a fuss about that.”...

    - First of all, they are not chilean, there is an agreement between our countries signed in 1998 to fix the problem.
    Second of all, you don't read the chilean press, so you don't know what kind of nationalism is there.

    ...“But they're not yours and never has been”...

    - They are OURS and ALWAYS BEEN!!!

    ...“In my country If a man comes and knocks on my door and demands my house based on the fact that 200 years ago, someone ran an unsuccessful cattle venture from a mudhut in my less than aesthetically pleasing backyard, we tend to tell them to go forth and multiply several times with themselves.”...

    - If a man comes to my house and claim it for himself and have children here, then grandchildren an so on to pretend to have the so-called “self-determination”, I'll kick his ass anytime I have the oportunity to do so or I'll make his life miserable!

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    In 1833 the only population on the islands was a commercial enterprise acting with British permission and an illegal Argentine garrison that did not have British permission. As a result they were invited to leave. The commercial enterprise continued ... with British permission!

    So no, the Falkland Islands HAVE NEVER belonged to Argentina :-)

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I'll kick his ass anytime I have the oportunity to do so or I'll make his life miserable!

    The only ass kicking took place to evict the cowardly argies out of the Falklands in 1982

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    I have to admit, gorge, you are a life-changing experience. I have some problem getting to grips with how someone who comes out with so much drivel gets on a computer. Must be a really progressive asylum you live in.

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    ah the Psychotic parrot makes a come back, his latest foray into the mating season has proved fruitless yet again.

    - Tell that to the people living in the islands in 1833!!!

    why don't you ask them? They didn't exactly seem overly opposed to British rule seeing as they stayed.

    “First of all, they are not Chilean, there is an agreement between our countries signed in 1998 to fix the problem”

    Isn't that what you said about the Beagal islands? turns out they where! and the 1998 agreement you refer to, Argentina scrapped it this year, keep up El Parrota!

    “you don't read the chilean press, so you don't know what kind of nationalism is there”

    -I would imagine it is no different to Argentina's, except that it is not obsessed like Argentina is with its own importance and belief that Argentina has something to give the world.

    “They are OURS and ALWAYS BEEN!!!”

    Well they haven't been yours since 1833, only an Argentine could claim that 4 years, 6 mud huts with a pathetic cattle business 200 years ago donates sovereignty over an entire archipelago.
    -“If a man comes to my house and claim it for himself and have children here”

    The Falklands where never YOUR personal property Jigaboo, and I was specifically referring to the shite hovel in the back garden that characterized Vernets colony, not the house built subsequently later, if Argentina's so desperate I'm sure we will declare the remains of the mud huts and fossilized cow dung as sacred Argentine soil, quite fitting really since Argentina's claim is a load of shite.

    “So-called self-determination”

    So how did Argentina declare its independence then jigaboo? Not through self-determination heaven forbid????

    “I'll kick his ass anytime I have the oportunity to do so or I'll make his life miserable!”

    I doubt you could kick even your own arse hard man, and haven't you being saying that you'd make the islanders miserable for months, turns out there's enough oil to make them very comfortable for centuries.

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Argentina didn't declare its independence. Argentina didn't exist. And it's a rebel colony of immigrants from Spain and their descendants.

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    ...“The only ass kicking took place to evict the cowardly argies out of the Falklands in 1982”...

    - Ufff! You don't know history! You are an ignaorant and with that nickname is not a surprise!

    18 Typhoon, if there are “people” who come out with so much drivel when it comes to Argentina, those are you! and my name is Jorge, not gorge. Did you go to school?

    ...“why don't you ask them? They didn't exactly seem overly opposed to British rule seeing as they stayed.”...

    - What the **** do you know? No one likes another country to take over one's territory.

    ...“Isn't that what you said about the Beagal islands?.......and the 1998 agreement you refer to, Argentina scrapped it this year, keep up El Parrota!”...

    - Never said that, you liar! Argentina didn't scrap anything, Argentina is asking to resume the work with its chilean counterpart, ignorant!

    ...“I would imagine it is no different to Argentina's, except that it is not obsessed like Argentina....”...

    - You imagine stupid things! In Argentine press there is not too much about this issue, chilean's instead is all about borders with Argentina, Peru and Bolivia. If you don't read the press, don't talk about it!

    ...“Well they haven't been yours since 1833....”...

    - You can take over my house, but it will always be my house, no matter how long you occupy it.

    ...“The Falklands where never YOUR personal property Jigaboo”...

    - Malvinas is the property of MY NATION, not mine.

    ...“if Argentina's so desperate I'm sure ....”...

    - We are not desperate, Malvinas will always be here, and in the long run things will change!

    ...“So how did Argentina declare its independence then jigaboo”...

    - We declared our independence form the colonizers. In Malvinas, you are the colonizers, that's the BIG diference!!!

    ...“I doubt you could kick even your own arse hard man”...

    - You can come and try it, litle man!

    ...“turns out there's enough oil to make them very comfortable for centuries.”...

    - Oil is not always a blessing! :-)

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Well, gorge. The Botox Queen is going to speak. Good time for everyone to pop out for a burger, fries and coffee.

    As you go on, you'll find out why I call you gorge. Here's a clue. It takes a small brain and a big mouth to g----. Get it?

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    “ ... What the **** do you know? No one likes another country to take over one's territory... ”

    Right again Jorgy Boy ... which is why we threw you out in 1833 and 1982 :-)

    Sep 22nd, 2010 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PomInOz

    The posts from the Malvinistas here are, incredible as it may seem, even more hilarious than the bunch of inept terroristas from a few days ago! Sorry, been away for a few days and came back to this and had to put on my incontinent pants!!!!!

    Sep 23rd, 2010 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Tell you what, gorge. I'll offer you a deal.

    When(If)ever you come on one of these threads and post like a courteous, intelligent, responsible, sane human being, I'll call you jorge!

    When you come on and post in your persona as an ignorant, brain-dead, brain-washed, hate-filled, stupid, Argentine moron, I'll call you gorge.

    Can't say fairer than that. Your choice!

    Sep 23rd, 2010 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    “What the **** do you know?”
    -Considerably more than you, please name one piece of evidence that suggests they were opposed to British rule, the fact that nobody on the original settlement left under British rule, yet under Argentine ownership they immigrated in droves and even murdered their own governor for using force to keep them in the islands, is pretty damming in itself Jigaboo!

    “Argentina didn't scrap anything; Argentina is asking to resume the work with its chilean counterpart, ignorant!”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2006/08/29/argentine-chilean-controversy-over-tourism-map
    http://en.mercopress.com/2006/08/29/argentine-chilean-controversy-over-tourism-map
    -Hmm? Releasing tourist maps and government sanctioned maps showing large chunks of Chilean territory as Argentine isn’t exactly what I would call “Asking to resume work” eh Jigaboo? Ignorant!!1

    “If you don't read the press, don't talk about it!”
    -Jigaboo amend the words “read” and “Press” with the phrase “Think”, and then re-apply the new sentence to yourself.

    “You can take over my house, but it will always be my house, no matter how long you occupy it”
    -So if you’ve been dead 200 years and your ancestors and descendents haven’t bothered to live in the house the intervening years, its still yours? specifically referred to the mud huts and cow dung in the grubby back yard, not the decent infrastructure and proper investment the islanders made.

    “Malvinas is the property of MY NATION, not mine”
    -So a psychotic lunatic parrot is now the embodiment of the Argentine nation?

    “We are not desperate”
    -So why the desperation? Could it be that the oil find, an increasingly autonomous FIG and the imminent 180 year anniversary of British rule are making Argentine sovereignty demands look more like the anachronistic nationalist Imperialist land grab it is?
    “Malvinas will always be here”
    -On your maps and in your mind only, meanwhile in the real world
    “in the long run things will chan

    Sep 27th, 2010 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Well, we were right. The Botox Queen's tirade at the UN was a waste of time. Except that she managed to destroy the historical basis that so many of our Argentine “friends” like to go on about. “It is not a historical claim”, she said.

    Sep 27th, 2010 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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