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Royal Navy: HMS Gloucester snub will not affect good relationship with Uruguay
The Royal Navy is “disappointed” with Uruguay's treatment of a warship heading to the Falkland Islands, but the incident will not affect “the good defence relationship with the Uruguayans, writes Michael Powell The News from Portsmouth Defence correspondent. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOf course it will not affect the good relationship......
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0President Mujica has tackled the situation magnifically, even telling the British “ambassadeur” that the situation is likely to repeat itself because of the hydrocarbons exploration in the “delicate” Malvinas area.
This man is a genius :-)
Everybody happy....
Easy and steady chaps........................
Of course it won't affect the relationship!
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But the Navy doesn't like snubs. So I guess Uruguay can say goodbye to profitable visits. A Type 42 has a complement of about 300. All that money. Gone.
300 bucks for a couple of days isn't much compared to 40 million ppl who LIVE constantly right across the river, and OFTEN visit Uruguay.
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr#2, 'So I guess Uruguay can say goodbye to profitable visits'
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May be a few british, instead they will get hundreds of thousands of Argentinian to visit Uruguay and spend there millions of dollars like normally do since I remenber.
But with all of that money that the muli-millionaires of Argentina will spend. Uruguay will need to decide on how to spend it for it's own development. If they want to invest in defense then BAE systems is the most world renowned company. Hmmm how could they get the best deal!
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#4... British warships calling in Montevideo would not stop the argentines going across to Uruguay to launder their money... that I believe is Argentinas biggest export to Uruguay... black money.
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh... and to smuggle back butter and sugar.....
And to walk streets not covered in dogshit....
What a difference, you know....!!!
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguayian Gvt. denying the call at it´s ports to RN ships due the possible consecuences from Argentina Gvt. (it president have no pants to do what the honour say) and Chile is no just receiving RN ships at our ports, even inviting them to participate in our most important naval parade on our 200 anniversary with the presence of our president and all the country's VIPs. (this guy have pants or guts to do what we want to do even facing the neighbours pressure).
After that CFK denied the extradition of a very dangerous lefty terrorist facing the Argentine Court ruling, as we are acostumed already.
That means that we are together but not scrambled, so please make distance and category..... We know how a friend must be treated.
Not a genius Think ..... a man with no balls ! But then he fears the 700,000 Uruguayans in Argentina being sent back maybe.
Sep 22nd, 2010 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahaha, it's hilarious how angry these UKer's are over their failing economy while Uruguay BOOMS!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what constitutes a 'boom' in a south american banana republic? The UK remains listed as the 6th biggest economy in the world ... now where does Uruguay come on that list?
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Totally wrong Think, as Sergio says Mujica was shown up as a wet little Kirschener stooge who has to do just what she says and is not in control of his own policy. he had to sneak in to see the British Ambassador using a plain car to try and pretend he was not doing it - did not even have the guts to do it in public - you are welcome to the little creep as your neighbour.
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let us consider the Argentine currency:
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 01 current peso = 100,000,000,000 1980 pesos. So that's what it's worth. At the same time, some Argentines think they're well-off because of how much the government pumps in in the way of subsidies.
And the word “BOOM”. It refers to something growing and expanding. Much like an explosion. After “BOOM” comes “BUST”.
So, we are loosing the Type 42s profitable visits, too!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a disgrace!!! :-(
Hahahahahaha
:-D
Pheel, suggest you ask that to the innocent Uruguayan ship stores company who has had to dump over US$10,000 of unsaleable provisions as a result of the last minute cancellation. Quite honestly from here we could not give a ****** about it - just shows up weak little men who have to cowtow to her majesty in the Casa Rosada- but in Mujica,s case are so scared they try to hide it as well.
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry for the suppliers´ losses, but you have to agree with me that trying to sell us that our biz is to receive brits frigates is very laughable!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, Hoyted's angry cause UK's growing @ 0 percent GDP while only their DEBT expands, hahaha. meanwhile Uruguay is BOOMING. Also, shows what you know calling Uruguay a banana republic, those are central american countries, Uruguay can't even grow banana well here, a bit chilly. Anyway, thanks for displaying your ignorance, Hoyted. LOL @ your failing economy!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay can't even grow banana
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or your leader Balls
Pheel, of course nobody HAS to receive british or anybody,s warships - actually this one is a Destroyer - bigger. What is very impolite and actually shows how thick and rude Mujica is - is to say YES - which his Govt did many weeks ago - and then sneak up undercover to the British Ambassador just a few hours before a vessel arrives and say “sorry I am under pressure from her across the river, please tell it to go away”! If he had any guts and decency he would have simply declined the visit when it was first requested. Instead he got a false staement to be issued initially by his Govt to try and cover up - which he then had to correct when the truth came out and he was found out!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like your Country though and Uruguyans.
I regret if I seemed from Uruguay. Some of my ancestors have lived in the 19th century and I have many friends there, but in order to be honest I didn´t try to appear like Uruguayo. No problem to be one, but it´s not true.
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The joke of receiving frigates as a profitable business, made me to speak of “we”. (actually I feel united to Uruguay and dream to develop a second farm there, without kirchners and other plagues).
Now you can re-take the harsh tone with me. :-)
Not yet! Nothing against ordinary Argentine folk either- quite happy to argue and maybe agree to differ so long as its reasoned and not full of all the who shot/sunk what etc then and who could now! Dialogue one hopes will prevent that ever happening again! There are moderates and some hotheads on both sides on here.
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL @ UK'S FAILING ECONOMY! WHILE URUGUAY'S ECONOMY BOOMS!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 'failing economy' that milkshake keeps refering to is still richer than Uruguay + Argentina will ever be :-)
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Little countries, little people !
You can expect 20 years of stagnation and crisis, while Uruguay/Brazil grow for 20 years at an astounding rate! WOOT!
Sep 23rd, 2010 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.... and still not catch up :-)
Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol @ failure economy UK
Sep 24th, 2010 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina: 1 current peso = 100,000,000,000 1980 pesos. Whose economy failed?
Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina failed, and so is UK's currently. I live in Uruguay though, and Uruguay's economy is booming, while UK's is failing! LOL! and that trend will continue for two more decades :D
Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GDP per capita $12,700 PPP (2009 est.) Uruguay
Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GDP per capita UK GDP per capita was estimated at an average of £22,700
When we are as poor as you I will start to worry
“I wonder what constitutes a 'boom' in a south american banana republic? The UK remains listed as the 6th biggest economy in the world ... now where does Uruguay come on that list?”
Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay is far below in the list. But consider their population: about 3.5 mi people. The city in which I live has about the same population as that whole country.
And Uruguay is not a banana republic. Do you even know where that term comes from? Originally it referred to small and poor Central American countries whose economy depended heavily on agricultural exports, the production means of which were usually in the hands of small local elites and large multinational corporations. Banana republics are generally very politically unstable, something that results from class conflict between the poor - who usually are either miserable and unemployed or underpaid - and their employers, both national and foreign.
Aside from being a small country, no part of the above description fits Uruguay. Only about 4% of Uruguayan population can be considered miserable (ie, spends less than 2 dollars a day), the lowest rate in Latin America; corruption levels are also among the lowest in the region (Transparency International puts corruption perception rates in Uruguay on a par with those in France); and, according to the Democracy Index calculated by The Economist, it is one of the only two “full” democracies in Latin America (the other is Costa Rica).
Plus, if Uruguay were really the insignificant country the Brits in here are suggesting it is, they wouldn't pull this snark attitude toward that country.
“Originally it referred to small and poor Central American countries whose economy depended heavily on agricultural exports, the production means of which were usually in the hands of small local elites and large multinational corporations. Banana republics are generally very politically unstable, something that results from class conflict between the poor - who usually are either miserable and unemployed or underpaid - and their employers, both national and foreign.”
Sep 25th, 2010 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like Argentina. And where Argentina wants to force Uruguay and Paraguay down to.
Sounds like sales of jackboots must be booming!
Sep 28th, 2010 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0How ignorant you Brits are, and laughable if you think the docking of one miserable ship can take precedence over all the business conducted between Uruguay and Argentina.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would be where Argentina interferes in Uruguay's economic development, unilaterally blocks international bridges, interferes in Uruguay's ports and with its trade.
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