MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentine blockade expected to boost Falklands fishing industry local activities
A Spanish flagged trawler that operates in Falkland Islands waters and was heading to Montevideo to unload 700 tons of fish was denied “innocent pass” through Argentine waters and had to steam an additional 17 hours at a cost of 7,000 litres of fuel before it finally unloaded its cargo in the Uruguayan port. Read full article
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Sep 29th, 2010 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Improved Falkland Islands port facilities ..... wow, way to go. A nice new deep sea port would increase profits for all concerned and cut out the whinging neighbours. Sounds purrrrfect :-)
Sep 29th, 2010 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0haha right..
Sep 29th, 2010 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well if I had any doubts about MercoPress being British I now have none.
MercoPress is based in Montevideo, Uruguay.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0We all know it's not, no Uruguayan news agency would write all its articles in English, impose all comments to be written only in English or write so many articles about Malvinas, much less as “The Falklands”.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you imagine? A South American news agency that deliberately alienates all the Spanish speaking countries in favor of English speaking countries?? Such as... lets say the UK and its colonists on Malvinas? Why? Why exactly would anyone in South America do this?
Does any real islander know the address of MercoPress?
Sep 29th, 2010 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0And why this company hides its location?
That's an interesting question, I'd love to stop by and congratulate them.. their skill in the use of the English language is unbelievable! I mean for a team of South American journalists.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I seem to recall that Think has spoken to Mercopress in the past.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for 'alienation', perhaps Mercopress is really just the voice of reason in a biased Latin sea. Without the ability to comment, most Agrentines would be contentedly immersed in a world of indoctrination where they are unable to perceive the opposing arguments and the truth of history.
Hooray for Mercopress, a light in the dark south cone :-)
@Ocampo_RA
Sep 29th, 2010 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's the MercoPress spanish site:
http://es.mercopress.com/
Proving that the agency does not “write all its articles in English” and that it does not “alienate all the Spanish speaking countries”. English is the world's lingua franca so any serious news agency would obviously produce their news in English, no? Oh, and another thing, the translations on the English version of MercoPress are not always that hot, and quite obviously translated by a non-native speaker.
8 &9 - I think that you have both “hit the nail on the head”.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The “Spanish version” is a surprisingly close approximation to proper Spanish but, no, I can see obvious mistakes, whoever is writing these articles is not a native speaker, not of Uruguay anyway.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also there are no articles under Current Edition and no comments can be made on any of the older articles, surely the British wouldn't want South Americans to express their views in their own language because they wouldn't be able to understand them much less moderate them.
And of course the obvious British insolence of referring to Malvinas as “the Falklands”. Uruguayans wouldn't do this, not because they support us but simply because it's not their custom.
I shouldn't need to tell you this but 90% of South America speaks Spanish, the rest Portuguese. So any serious news agency in South America would obviously produce their news in Spanish, not English. Understand? If MercoPress was indeed based out of Uruguay the Spanish version would take precedence.
MercoPress is British. I suspect the agenda here is to introduce news of “The Falklands” as validation, more like worthless propaganda of “success”. The articles on the rest of South America are equally worthless, they're only neutral and objective when the issue has nothing to do with Malvinas, but when it does, there is an obvious inclination towards the British point of view followed by subsequent articles to re-enforce this view, in case the previous article didn't get the point across.
“Argentine blockade expected to boost Falklands...” Have any of you ever been to Uruguay? Never in a million years would they care enough to write like this, trust me. You're completely out of touch with reality.
Insolence of referring to the islands as “the Falklands”? Those islands were called the Falklands long before the name “Malvinas” was even thought of. Some old Argentine maps even refer to them as “Las Islas Falkland”. Talk about being out of touch with reality - and history.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Feeling the pinch Ocampo_RA?
Sep 29th, 2010 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not happy that alternative view points are being aired in the land of indoctrination?
Afraid the truth may seep out amongst your neighbours?
Oh, and I love the essay by Ocampo_RA “refuting” my comment. I'll just repeat what I said. Mercopress does not write “all” it's articles in English. As I've shown, some are in Spanish, which also knocks the “alienates Spanish-speaking countries” canard on the head too...
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0What we are seeing above is the Argentine “chip on shoulder”, paranoia and their belief that is an article is neutral then it is anti Argentine. English is the most widely spoken language in the world and the main language of international diplomacy. Writing in English makes Mercopress more accessible.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps if you don't like what you read you should go and look at some Marxist drivel written in Spanish and stop commenting in English on here?
“I shouldn't need to tell you this but 90% of South America speaks Spanish, the rest Portuguese. So any serious news agency in South America would obviously produce their news in Spanish, not English. Understand? If MercoPress was indeed based out of Uruguay the Spanish version would take precedence.”
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not if MercoPress' clients are mostly international...
Way to go Argies
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RRayDSxFo
THIMC
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let the Malvinas build all the expensive facilities and ports they want….
That will make them even more dependent on the fishing industry.
What is it today? About 60% of their GDP?... Or is it 70%....?
Argentina has all the necessary data to severely overfish this resource, making it to lose its economical viability for everybody.
The South-Atlantic fishing industry represents less than the 0,04% of the Argentinean GDP…
The social and economical costs on our population can easily be subsidized (we are good at that)
We don’t even have to do it ourselves… The Chinese are coming… They will buy our licenses to do it…… iand they are effective…..
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/28/chinese-jiggers-allowed-into-argentine-ports-as-of-next-december
at the
About Mercopress…… I can “vouch for” that management is Uruguayan and based in Montevideo….
Their represent their believes and interests and it is their right to do so...
But impartial.... They are not :-)))))))
You can find their address in ”FIS”, an excellent Industrial Fishing Site by the way………..
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/28/chinese-jiggers-allowed-into-argentine-ports-as-of-next-december
There speaks the voice of reason. Advocating destroying a natural resource to spite a peaceful island community who won't buckle to Argentine demands. Spiteful, hostile, vindictive - sums it up nicely.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0But do carry on, alienate more of your supporters do.
I also observe a certain lack of reading comprehension, the Chinese won't be allowed to fish as local mayors don't like them competing with Argentine boats. Someone was obviously too lazy to read the article.
Funny that, Argentina not liking competition in business and resorting to protectionism.
Not destroying ...... Just(in) making it economically unviable..... It recuperates by itself when the big boats dissapear :-)
Sep 29th, 2010 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Best example?:
East coast of Africa.... The Somali corsairs have forced the big ships to dissapear... The local coastal fishermen are having golden times!!! :-)
making it economically unviable
Sep 29th, 2010 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Making the oil economically viable :-)
I see Twinky is still hot on the idea of breaching the UN Charter and encouraging all his pals to do so as well.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder what happens if the Security Council, the only UN body capable of making binding resolutions, decides to place trade sanctions on South America?
UNCLOS: Convention on Fishing and Conservation of Living Resources of the High Seas
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Requires protection of fish stocks not over exploitation. How unlike Argentina to fail to live up to its International obligations under the protocols it has signed up to.
How unlike Argentina to advocate economic warfare to force a people to bend to its will.
Do carry on, the more awkward you get the less support you will receive.
“I shouldn't need to tell you this but 90% of South America speaks Spanish, the rest Portuguese. So any serious news agency in South America would obviously produce their news in Spanish, not English”
Sep 29th, 2010 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0And yet here you are, talking to us...in english.
Sorry Think, sorry Ocampo, but I must say I have another idea about Mercopress; I see it as a big wooden horse resting at the beach.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think it's called paranoia!
Sep 29th, 2010 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, in 2007 (the lastest GDP calculation), the fishing industry accounted for 42.99% of the Falkland Islands Economy. Not your speculative 60 or 70%. Again you continue to discredit yourself. Please stick to facts. And I have to competely agree with Justin's comment (No. 19). To advocate destroying the South Atlantic's ecosystem to distrupt the economy of a small peaceful neighbor just because they do not concede to Argentina's unreasonable demands sums up Argentina. You will continue to believe this is the correct way of going about things, but it just proves to the World how backward and short-termism your country is.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(27) MofFI
Sep 29th, 2010 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From the Enemy’s Horse own Mouth :-)))))
”Financial Implications:
In terms of the Falklands, huge numbers of fish were caught in 2007 that brought in 60% of the GDP or £65 Million.
If revenue were increased it would have a knock-on effect with increased revenue for customs, harbour dues, engineering capacity and telecommunications as well as what crewmen spend ashore.
There are also firms that are related to the fishery, providing launches, cold storage and transport ashore, etc. ”
http://www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=5482&source=3
Think, What a joke! I thought this “newspaper” was based in Stanley. I called the number that you posted, no answer yet but his voice is more “yorugua” than el candombe itself. I am sure they recieve funds from british in Malvinas or in London to spread their lies. Interesting to see if that information reaches the other side of the river.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to spread their lies
Sep 29th, 2010 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what lies would that be Pale Ale?
My 43% was incorrect, in 2007 the Fishing Industry accounted for 47% of the Falklands Total GDP. I am looking at the value added figures calculated by FIG. I suspect the £65m your quote refers to is revenue, not value added. Two different things.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)))))))))) right back at you Thunk
29 Ale,
Sep 29th, 2010 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's interesting is the level of English they write at which is extremely high, and the fact that the Brits here don't even get my point, that alone proves how out of touch they are. If Malvinas is at best an off & on issue in Argentina that pales in comparison to far more important issues, in Uruguay is a nonexistent issue. They don't care at all, that's my point.
An incident like refusing the Gloucester to dock, or blockading the Galician ship might reach the news only because it was directly related to Uruguay, but that's it, what happens on the islands has absolutely no relevance to anyone else in Uruguay or for that matter the rest of South America, no one would read it. No one cares about your progress reports, percentages, updates, you're just a sovereignty issue and that's all. You're otherwise completely irrelevant.
So, to portray yourselves on this 'magazine' the way you do, to give yourselves such a ridiculous level of importance pretty much exposes your agenda and the source of the news. And I am telling you, it's not coming from Uruguay no matter what phony addresses or phone numbers you put up. MercoPress is aimed at the rest of the world, it's goal is propaganda, not journalism.
And you people really need to travel. (BADLY)
it's goal is propaganda
Sep 29th, 2010 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/14/s-p-raises-argentina-s-long-term-credit-rating-based-on-an-improving-economy
And you people really need to travel. (BADLY)
I was in Bagdad,when you were in your dad's bag.
Smokescreens to hide MercoPress's true agenda.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you don't know my age, where I've been or what I've seen.
And you don't know my age, where I've been or what I've seen.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sweeping statement anyone
And you people really need to travel. (BADLY)
32 Ocampo, Very interesting.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 033 stick, Bagdad? What in the world were you doing there in the first place. Looking for WMD?
Ocampo_RA:
Sep 29th, 2010 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The hint is in the name really. (Merco)press deals specificly with (Merco)sur group and surrounding areas, such as atlantica and the falklands islands.
Think, who is an argentinian has himself contacted the owners of the site and spoke to them.
You are of course free to think what you like, but you are wrong.
Ocampo, Don't be surprised that some members of this mistery british MercoPress write some of the comments themselves.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 033 stick, Bagdad? What in the world were you doing there in the first place. Looking for WMD
Sep 29th, 2010 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, I was on the Mesopotamian Front
Does it matter what Ocampo or Ale think? IF, and that's an important word, IF Mercopress were a British or Falklands enterprise, the Argies will go away. Thereby leaving the rest of us to have intelligent debate, for a change.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They better take good care of our fish !
Sep 29th, 2010 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems that the Malvinas Oil bubble is shrinking..............
www.stockopedia.co.uk/content/rockhopper-sea-lion-valuation-analysis-48506/
38 Ale,
Sep 29th, 2010 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, the thought crossed my mind but these people here wouldn't be intelligent or educated enough to pull it off themselves.
I would kill to visit MercoPress's office, the place where these 'journalists' work and see the people who actually type these articles. I know very well what it takes to retain a level of foreign language that hight, consistently. MercoPress is far too obscure to justify and pay a staff of highly skilled bilingual journalists, it simply doesn't add up.
The Spanish version of MercoPress is pretty much dead, there are no current articles, not one. And I don't know if you noticed but the articles in Spanish are totally different, you don't have one article written in both Spanish and English.
Don't ya just love it, they don't like what Mercopress reports so its a conspiracy. Nobody could possibly ever disagree with Argentina ever
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 042 Ocampo, And also no comments are allowed, will be funny if they say “comments in english only”.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 041 Think , Where are those guys celebrating with cheap champagne?
Now this is Propaganda
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.history.com/audio/argentine-propaganda-targets-british#argentine-propaganda-targets-british
not very good but Propaganda
Think , Where are those guys celebrating with cheap champagne?
Early days my little Dago Imp
44 Ale,
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I noticed that too. Why exactly is that? You don't find that strange at all?? A Uruguayan based news agency that doesn't allow comments in Spanish, in their Spanish version.
haha
Or ...
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alternatively...
Stand by your beds....
The editors of Merocpress have been exposed to the “arguments” from Argentines defending their “claim”. And the Brits countering those arguments.
And decided for themselves...that you're full of it.
Think,the oil article is partially incorrect- the fact IS that revenue will accrue directly to FIG and the tax take etc is all there already in FI Law.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “bubble” - who knows, there is still a lot of speculation and nothing is prooved yet either way - so if a few speculators get their fingers burnt - their problem! Most here are remaining cautious and realistic.
Fish - yes- thats what we have long since realised - Argentina could not give a damn for the Environment nor International Marine resources - all are expendable in the futile battle to eliminate 3000 people from their chosen homes. One reason why we are moving away steadily progressing to an economy less dependent on purely fish.
Luskily at least one high value species is only in our waters and does not migrate so we can husband it long term properly.
Ocampo, like Think I have also been in direct contact with mercopress before and even visited their office once and can confirm YES it is in Uruguay and is run and controlled there.
Oh, and many Uruguyans know and use the words Falkland Islands - not Malvinas. In the south of Chile they use Islas Falklands and rarely Malvinas. In Brazil folk have never heard of either!
The plot thickens
Sep 29th, 2010 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinian foreign minister, Diego Maradona, has greased himself up for a round of talks with neighbouring countries about the future ownership of the Falkland Islands (or Las Malvinas as Diego's called them).
Many South American leaders, including Venezuelan president and commie tosser Hugo Chavez, have said they would support Argentina in a potential future war with the UK because, as Chavez said, “the era of European empire building is over. The era of South American empire building is here!”
We owned de islands before the UK,” said Mr Maradona in a display of diplomatic skill rarely seen in the cocaine-riddled blobby-bellied twat
The British ambassador to Argentina offered Mr Maradona some Ferrero Rocher and explained that before Argentina owned the Falklands Islands, they also belonged to France, Spain and briefly the UK again. He also mentioned that Argentina previously belonged to Spain and also to the native South American people. Not only that but the majority of the inhabitants of the Falklands are happy with their current status as a British territory, which is a position supported by the UN's charter.
JustinKuntz
Sep 29th, 2010 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh I see, the Uruguayans decided that the issue was important enough for them to become involved, so they hired expert bilingual journalist solely for the purpose of setting the record straight, which of course is.. the British version.
hahaha..
Blinkers. Conspiracy. Paranoia.
Sep 29th, 2010 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ocampo_RA :
Sep 29th, 2010 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not really hard to figure out why the website is english and has a lot of falkland/argentine news on it without reducing your intellect to conspiracy theorys and other such nonsence.
Website companys such as this run on advertising money which is usually based on how much traffic said website. The more traffic they get, the more money the company gets.
Now, they've obviously done a bit of thinking and realised that there are massive arguments to be had between the people of Argentina and the UK and not many british people speak spanish, while the majority of the world speaks english.
And wham, you have MercoPress.
It's a bit obvious if you think about it. ofcourse you are entitled to your oppinion but the facts still remain that it is a Uruguayan companty based in Uruguay hosted by an american server farm.
But then again Argentina has always prefered to make stuff up rather sticking to the facts.
I'm waiting for Ocampo to mention that this newsagency is actually a front for the CIA :-)
Sep 29th, 2010 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Think has spoken to them and he has not levelled such an accusation although he would if he could. Mercopress must therefore be pretty straight?
As for Ocampo's earlier suggestion that the Falkland Islands are nothing other than a sovereignty issue .... what sovereignty issue? We have it you do not ... no issue!
48 Islander1 , “Ocampo, like Think I have also been in direct contact with mercopress before and even visited their office once and can confirm YES it is in Uruguay and is run and controlled there”
Sep 30th, 2010 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Islander?, well let's assume that you are, what were you doing there? visiting or paying the bills?
Does not the lambasting of Mercopress by the Argentines here remind anyone somewhat of the Buttocks Queen's ranting at the press in Argentina that dare to have the balls to print something bad about her or her government?
Sep 30th, 2010 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The simple fact of the matter is that Argentina and the vast majority of Argentines are not yet mature enough to be able to shrug off or agree to differ with any point of view that is not exactly the same as their own. Instead we get these distracting attacks on the free press or insults about the pro-Falklands posters.
Free press or paid by the british press?
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some sports news guys....
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/commonwealth-games-2010/news/Falklands-oldies-are-ready-to-have-a-bowl/articleshow/6654930.cms
Geezer power
Whether or not they are paid by the British press - and I don't know - it's still a free press. They are not being told what they can or can't print or being threatened with prosecution or closure by an Argentine Government that is moving perilously close to dictatorship.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well spotted Think ..... the Falkland Islands being treated as a Nation :-)
Sep 30th, 2010 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 058 PomInOz , “They are not being told what they can or can't print ”
Sep 30th, 2010 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with free press but that's not the issue here . MercoPress is clearly a British news agency from the islands but for some strange reason based in Montevideo Uruguay and they called it MercoPress to mislead readers.
Ale: I have no idea whether or not Mercopress is a British news agency, but I lived in the Islands for many years and I never heard or saw anything that would lead me to suspect that it's run from there.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 05:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0When you say that it is “clearly” British from the Falkland Islands, is this something that you know for a fact, or are you just stating it as a fact in the hope that, in repeating it enough, it will become a “fact”?! The same kind of “fact” in fact as Argentine ownership of the Falklands!!
Some evident things about Mercopress:
Sep 30th, 2010 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are hard working…..
They write quite good English….
They do a good job promoting Uruguay as an Investment country....
They dislike Castro….They don’t like Communism…
They dislike Chavez….They don’t like Socialism….
They dislike the Kirchners….They don’t like Peronism…
They dislike Pepe Mujica…They don’t like the Frente Amplio….
They “go out of their way” to present their “dislikes” in the worst possible light…...
They have “quite an interest” in the local Real Estate market….
They have “quite an interest” in the South Atlantic fishing industry….
In short…..
A typical South American “high class”, “high income”, “high education” interest group caring for their own interests that incidentally coincide with “You-Know-Who’s” interests in the North……..
No more no less……..
Would they therefore be the same as the 'middle class'. 'middle income', 'middle education' interest group caring for their own interests ...? Or perhaps the 'low class'. 'low income', 'low education' interest group caring for their own interests ...?
Sep 30th, 2010 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or any other group with a mixture of all three caring for their own interests?
Sounds all perfectly normal to me, all these folks caring for their own interests....... so hard to find people who REALLY care for another's interests, particularly when that would conflict with their own!
Note, not one iota of evidence yet within a few short posts constructing elaborate conspiracy theories that Mercopress is a British product. Note also the attack on integrity.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0What conclusions can we draw?
Well having seen stuff I agree and disagree with, I'd say Mercopress does a pretty good job of being fair and even handed - which is why I keep coming back. Clearly being fair and even handed means they don't reflexively parrot the Argentine line, which clearly offends the Argentine sensibilities and so they clearly feel the need to attack it.
I hope thats cleared it all up.
All together now:
“I'm a bigshot, I'm a millionaire
I'm a genius, I got brains to spare
I'm Napoleon, and there's a world out there
I could be ruling
Paranoia
Can annoy ya
Paranoia
Can annoy ya
Schizophrenia
Gets in between ya
Oh! Blame it on society!”
Apologies to Neil Innes.
I reiterate:
Sep 30th, 2010 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Does it matter what Ocampo or Ale think? IF, and that's an important word, IF Mercopress were a British or Falklands enterprise, the Argies will go away. Thereby leaving the rest of us to have intelligent debate, for a change.”
Responding to either of them simply boosts their super-inflated egos by implying that their comments have any credence. Let us stick to the subject of the article.
Newspapers are defined by the “message” with the intention of leaving his readers. Those who are behind every newspaper, who financed a newspaper and what are the intentions of it, are in view of everyone except the blind. There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0For example, this news of British newspaper “The Guardian” I do not think that some newspapers have the intention to release. Not even interested in the thought of a journalist of great reputation as Simon Jenkins, because it goes against the message that these newspapers want to leave:
“The Falklands can no longer remain as Britain's expensive nuisance”
“Distant colonies are an anachronism. Britain will have to negotiate with Argentina because the world will insist on it”
JPL.
JPL,
Sep 30th, 2010 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you bother to read the comments made about the article by Guardian readers? Clearly not as they are universally critical.
There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.
” ... Britain will have to negotiate with Argentina because the world will insist on it”
Sep 30th, 2010 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Err .... unlikely :-)
“ ... a journalist of great reputation as Simon Jenkins...”
Err ... who ??
If we look to history of other examples of unjust blockades, they don't tend to work, they just make the people you are blockading resentful and even more determined.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0North Cyprus, 40 years and counting, economy and population grew.
Gibraltar, 40 years the economy and population grew.
Hong Kong, 40 years the economy and population grew and they forced a dramatic shift in PRC policy.
Gaza, No change of government economy and population grew.
Blockades don't really work, especially in a society which is self sufficient, all blockades do is make them even more self sufficient and pretty much vindicate the opinion that everyone has had about Argentine: an antagonistic anachronistic bully behaving like a petulant child that can't get its hands on its new toy.
JPL I don't see anything “Anachronistic” about letting the current inhabitants democratically decide their own future, something Simon Jenkins seems to have issues with.
Why is it that Malvinists in their quest to vindicate their anachronistic Imperial policy always rabbit the same 3 guardian articles the 4 quotes by civil servants in the 19 the century or Bingham's less than truthful website? Oh and the coward Alejandro Betts creeps in some of the time.
I'm yet to see anything original from an Argentine academic, the only one featured so far is Carlos Escudes and hes against Argentina's claim!
JPL :
Sep 30th, 2010 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your post just proves what we are trying to say, there is no conspiracy. We allow news to post what they like even if the population does not agree with it.
Simon is offering his oppinion, and thats fine. It's not fact, just oppinion. I disagree with a lot of what he says, like his artical saying we should scrap the entire armed forces and rely on the USA for total defence.
What do you mean Hoyt? Never heard of Simon Jenkins? JPL has, so he must be famous...
Sep 30th, 2010 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have looked him up now .. I thought his name was Hunnicutt ! :-/
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also checked out his article - pity he's got his history all wrong. Quite well summed up at http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2010/02/the-falklands-and-the-dance-of-simon-jenkins.html
I also note that he's written a book about the Falklands War .... I assume he needs to sell a few more!
If you believe that you are simply an idiot. Lets try a new tactic.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your ENTIRE argeument is that MercoPress posts pro british Articals and not the other way, it's the only “fact” to this nonsense you are sprouting.
Fair enough, then explain this:
http://en.mercopress.com/2003/03/31/simon-jenkins-claims-falklands-for-argentina.
Marcos Alejandro:
Wrong, comments have been removed when they use foul language or say rude things about people. The fact that several Argentinians have been banned says more about Argentina than the website.
I've had a few of mine removed too, they aren't just deleting yours.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but as i said it was not just Argentine posts removed, and i have for no reason in the past had my stuff removed.
Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes for the most random remarks.
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