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UK wants to sell Brazil 11 naval bases, but is a late starter behind France and Italy

Tuesday, October 12th 2010 - 19:29 UTC
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Britain is ramping up efforts to sell about 11 new naval vessels, including frigates, to the Brazilian Navy in a bid to catch up with marketing efforts launched by France and Italy, according to a recent article from DefenseNews. Read full article

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  • Think

    Hmmmmm
    Argentina should include some Brazilian naval cadets in the tripulations of our South-Atlantic patrol boats.......
    That would made those vessels virtually “unsinkable”
    Don't you “Sink”? :-))))))

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Wouldnt suprise me, along with siting artillery amongst the Falklanders houses, using a Hospital ship to illuminate British forces
    Mind you anyone daft enough to be on a Argie ship engaged in stupidty
    deserves all they get

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    #1 I “Sink” yes.

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Q: How would you describe Argentina's President Néstor Kirchner?

    A: I would describe Kirchner as a demagogue. I don't agree with the [Argentine government's] perception that [former President Carlos] Menem's policies were ultra-free market reforms. They were not. They were a smoke-screen for huge corruption and influence peddling, which naturally had very negative results. And that frustration has moved the Argentine people to turn from the Menem demagoguery to the Kirchner demagoguery. I'm afraid that the results will be equally catastrophic.

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    @stick

    Vargas Llosa is an ultra-right-winger. He thinks a coup détat - that in Honduras against President Zelaya in 2009 - was justified because Zelaya was close to Chávez.
    That he denies Menem's reforms were neoliberal, means only that Llosa won't admit that the free market could not only fail to solve a country's socioeconomic shortcomings, but even increase them.
    Right after Kirchner took office, in 2003, Llosa predicted Argentina economy would quickly break - a prediction that undoubtedly failed. Whatever one thinks of Argentina - with its relatively high inflation - it is not on the verge of breaking today, 7 years after Llosa made the above prediction.

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Kirchner demagoguery?

    Demagogy or demagoguery (Ancient Greek: δημαγωγία, from δῆμος dēmos “people” and ἄγειν agein “to lead”) is a strategy for gaining political power by appealing to the prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public—typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist, populist or religious themes. What qualifies as demagogy has been the subject of debate and ambiguity since Aristophanes first used the term, in reference to Cleon.[1]

    Malvinas son Argentina, Royal Navy Pirates

    Ring any bells?

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    they all must be NUTS ??

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sparticus

    Thanks to Gordon Broon and his bunch of idiots, the UK is lagging years behind in trying to recapture the UK a successful export base.
    The Type 26 FF will be a world beater

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Asdrúbal el Bello

    Hey, do not you know? The Type 26 frigates will be canceled. No money.

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • free.comment

    Was shocked by the title “UK wants to sell Brazil 11 naval bases,”

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Actually the cuts aren't going to be too bad.

    The fleet will either stay about the same size minus the aircraft carriers for about 10 years, or will be shrunk by quite a lot so it would basicly be a 2 fleet navy an aircraft carrier with each six escorts plus the hellicoper carrier.

    Personally i prefer to keep both carriers.

    Oct 12th, 2010 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    To me carriers are just bigger targets, I think we need more subs and smaller, faster craft that can punch above their weight.

    If Brazil is interested in missiles, they can always look south .... there's a test due apparently :-)

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Britain already has an aircraft carrier in the South Atlantic, an unsinkable one, in a state of constant readiness.

    Actually they have two.... Ascension is the other one.

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Fortunately, Britain will be keeping BOTH of its two new 65,600 ton carriers, the first of which is due to come into service in 2016. This follows the successful arguments of the First Sea Lord, Sir Mark Stanhope, and the forced recognition by the British government that the British people were not willing to see the Royal Navy weakened and in fact want to see it strengthened. In those circumstances, it makes a nonsense of thoughts of reducing the size of the Royal Navy. Public suggestions are being put forward to cut the welfare budget and fund both versions of the Type 26 frigate. It also being strongly suggested that the JSF is a poor choice for a carrier aircraft. It is understood that the government has already dropped the idea of purchasing the F-35B, recognising that it inappropriate for the new carriers. The suggestion that F-16E/F aircraft should be purchased has been discounted as they are old-style airframes. Recommendations are for a naval variant of the Typhoon with more powerful engines and the ability to carry more weapons.

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @stick up your junta

    Your #6 post can be applicable to UK too.

    “The wish of the Islanders” and “ not doubt about UK sovereignty over the Island.”

    “We are democratic they don’t, our values blabla ended up in Afghanistan Iraq Wars. WMD lie”
    “Time of boom and burst have ended in UK” Gordo The major nationalization of British banking history. On taxpayers shoulder of course.
    “Our British professional have natural skill and creativity not comparable in the world in the financial sector” Financial collapse Tony/Gordo festival of bonus and corruption on high level, fancy accounting, etc.

    Still waiting for your answer about our meeting mate in Buenos Aires or UK.

    Please don’t disappoint me.

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    ”To me carriers are just bigger targets, I think we need more subs and smaller, faster craft that can punch above their weight.

    If Brazil is interested in missiles, they can always look south .... there's a test due apparently :-)”

    I disagree totally. In the last falklands we would not have won without the carriers.

    In every war the defining factor is air superiority and when 71% of the Earth's surface is water a floating air strip is priceless.

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Still waiting for your answer about our meeting mate in Buenos Aires or UK.

    Please don’t disappoint me.

    Not into Cottaging Nicotine, but I am sure you will find someone

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    @ 1 What's “tripulations”?

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    don’t forget the secrete base on st Helena, [[new runway] ??

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @ Typhoon
    1 What's “tripulations”?

    crew related to travels

    like “The Travels and Tripulations of a Nobody”

    from old Spanish tripulación and from old Argie language putalatus

    The root of your English word Trip.
    Example Briths putalatus Trip to Malvinas to afanus what brits putalapus do not canus habus by hardus laburatus.
    Cronicucus piratus. What the fackus.

    have you got the idea?

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    and the wall was still whitewashed

    Oct 13th, 2010 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Typhoon (18) .... Twanky is suggesting the Arg navy carry some Brasilian crew so the British wont attack their ships... it follows on from how they painted the red cross on legitimate military targets so they wouldn't get their sad and sorry arses kicked in 1982... didn't save them then... wont save them next time.

    Mind you the use of the red cross is not without merit... easy matter to paint out the red bit when you shit your pants and ...having shown the white flag.. want to scuttle off home to hide behind your womenfolk

    Oct 14th, 2010 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @ 22
    Harsh, but fair LOL

    Oct 14th, 2010 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    don't be so frank, Frank. you'll upset the machos.

    Oct 14th, 2010 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    22 Frank:

    LOL!

    Oct 14th, 2010 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    20 Nico

    Bet they didn´t get it.
    Instead, they are “lolying” about a fooly remark of another thread.
    It`s known that in sports and humour, they have nothing. Not always like that, but decadence happens.

    Oct 14th, 2010 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    as long as your people act like children and refuse to grow up, and live in peace, the falklands will always be british,

    Oct 14th, 2010 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Pheel
    Yes you are right. But what can you do with people that can only count sheep and boats?

    Oct 15th, 2010 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you can stop trying to nick them for a start ?

    Oct 15th, 2010 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    Oops seems someone got sensitive here. Are you on these days?

    Oct 16th, 2010 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    @30 NiceButDim. You shouldn't ask about being sensitive. Trigger finger might slip. On? Yep. On target.

    Oct 16th, 2010 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    your just sitting there waiting to pounce , on the weakest thing that passes you. Your like hyenas, just not laughing, as soon as the Falklands back is turned, you will jump, you can never be trusted ?

    Oct 16th, 2010 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Last night I was watching a documentary called “The SS”. It covered such animals as Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Klaus Barbie together with their escape to Argentina, and subsequently to other South American countries, where they, and other Nazi escapees taught the Argentine police and military all they knew.

    It was also quite clear that the next step in Nazi plans will blossom in South America, with the headquarters of the Fourth Reich in Argentina.

    This explains a great deal. The attempt to steal British territory. The same attitudes toward territory as Hitler displayed. Rule by decree with lip-service to democracy. The whipping-up of the mob. The desire to see Britain withdraw from the South Atlantic.

    Oct 17th, 2010 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    some people never change

    Oct 17th, 2010 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    Never!

    And We always wanted to have more headquarters of German’s multinational down here.
    And in fact we have a lot but with the name of “IV Reich” not yet.

    Haven’t we?

    Just for you Thypoo “IV Reich in Argentina” you asked you have it for free and translated into English for your better understanding.

    Here a trailer to warm you up http://www.cinema7.com/projekthuemul/web.html

    Full documentary downloadable here http://www.cinema7.com/projekthuemul/web.html

    Hey, look how we have progressed now mate?

    Yesterday you wanted to bomb us and now you are scared to death.

    Well you should mate your domestic propaganda one day will kill you. Have you noted that?

    I just wonder if Obama will help you this time?

    I guess not, you wouldn’t tortured his granddad seems the guy is pissed off. Look I try harder but I cannot find even 1 friend to help you.

    Oct 17th, 2010 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “I just wonder if Obama will help you this time?”

    Wouldn't need it.

    Oct 17th, 2010 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Zethe
    You surely need him have you noted that your nation is turning From Great Britain to Weak Britain?

    Oct 18th, 2010 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    @35 No, sonny. We're not scared to death. But you have just added to the list of reasons for you to be a target. It'snot as though we care. After all, with the blood of so many millions on our hands (according to you) over the centuries, what's another 40-odd million?

    Somebody pass the marmalade.

    Oct 18th, 2010 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    37 NicoDin:

    And yet, the islands are still british. :)

    Oct 18th, 2010 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    and allway will be

    Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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