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Cruise tourist numbers revised up by one third
TOURISM in the Falklands is looking up, with visitor projections far higher than anticipated just three months ago. Read full article
TOURISM in the Falklands is looking up, with visitor projections far higher than anticipated just three months ago. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesall this thanks to the stupidity of argentina,
Oct 16th, 2010 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0they never learn.
“We are expecting at least 68 cruise vessel calls into Stanley, and we are optimistic there will be fewer cancellations this season.”
Oct 16th, 2010 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whith this news do expect a lot of cancellations:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/11/argentina.falkland.exercises/index.html?eref=ft
Marcos, please enlighten me as to what difference a minor 6 monthly routine exercise with short range weapons makes to a tourist season that occurs outside the dates on these exercises? - I will tell you - ZERO .
Oct 16th, 2010 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As things are today, it seems that Argentina is getting quite a “helping hand” from Nature in respect to the British Corsarian Hydrocarbon Adventure.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With a little luck this “Oil Bubble” will be over and done around this time next year.
And the abbreviation: “FI” will have an acrid smell of burnt fingers for the Private Investors.
Then, we will be able to concentrate our best efforts against the Malvinas Cruise Business and the Illex and Loligo stocks.
Jepppppp….
You Brits are soooo right…
Argentina can’t do nothing.................. :-)
“With a little luck this “Oil Bubble” will be over and done around this time next year........
Oct 16th, 2010 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then, we will be able to concentrate our best efforts against the Malvinas Cruise Business”
So....... Argentina can't think and chew gum at the same time...
A great big powerful country like Argentina against the tiny little Falkland Islands and you're having to rely on luck????
Oct 16th, 2010 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic Think, pathetic.
islander; are you asking why Argentina is so verborragic? you don´t know what´s happening?
Oct 16th, 2010 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0negotiations are needed. kelper people have a good argument but not britain.
(6) Westi
Oct 16th, 2010 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last time I looked, Britain was the 6th biggest economy in the world and an atomic Bully...... So yes...., we need quite a portion of luck.....
Think- well really should address you as spokesperson for Min F.Affairs I guess? What little Oil Bubble are you on about? you know no more about the industry than I do - and I know very little - but I do know some basic averages. This project has drilled 4 wells so far - 2 dry,one with gas and oil present and one with a good flow of medium grade oil. Not a bad ratio internationally if you bother to check.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I recall one offshore project in Arabia - they drilled 6 in a high positive seismic result field- 6 dry - and said one more and we quit - the 7th finally brought it up - and today its a huge production field.
The reality is that however desperate the MFA is for total failure offshore here - there is a LONG way to go yet before we can say Yes or No.
Tourism - you would do well to remember 4-5 years ago there were threats to make it very difficult and costly and beaurocratic for the big ships to sail from B.A. to the Islands - result - there were clear hints from companies like P&O,HollandAmerica and RoyalNorwegian - that they could easily move across the river and operate to FI from Montevideo - result - all of a sudden there were no “problems with paperwork etc”!!
Fish - yes you are already well down the road on destroying your own fishing industry across from us in your attempts to deliberatley overfush so as to screw us. So far it has hit Argentinians a lot harder than us!
You challenged a Spanish vessel fishing legally inside our waters last week - did he stop fishing?-NO- he did not at all, merely turned his bows towards the Islands a bit, and called up the RN- over the horizon they came - exit one ARA vessel at top speed!
We have shown that our economy can survive without Ilex Argentinus. Luckily the other valuable type does not migrate but stays in our waters so we can control catch levels for the longer term.
Why you talk about survive instead of talking about development?
Oct 16th, 2010 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please islander don´t play the role of the victim, you can´t deny the fundamentals of the dispute; if you know something about them you them you would know that neither kelpers nor argentines choose this dispute; britain choose to come to south america, argentinae don´t called them and you came in british train; don´t blame argentina, blame your colonial masters as Juanita Brook in her last editorial.
British presence is alien in the region.
Why don´t you look for a welcome in the region instead of surviving and playing victim role?
Okay, Think (that's both a name and an imperative I guess), so you concentrate on the fish stocks and cruise industry and end up wrecking them for us and for yourselves, just out of spite.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then what? Just where do you think it's going? What is the point? I'm genuinely interested. What do you think we will do? What, in your scenario will Britain do?
Monty, britain should leave, that´s the scenario, there is no room in south atlantic for britain, kelpers will be fine & better than now if britain negotiates the retreat from south atlantic in good terms with argentina.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how would you like it if the icelantic fishing fleet comes looking, these are firery people , we will send them to keep you in check, they owe us a favour, , lolol
Oct 16th, 2010 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(11) Monthy69
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct…. “Think” is meant as an exhortation…. Thanks for responding….
None of the measures we are taking, negative for both sides in the short term, are taken “out of spite” but as a last resort.
In February 2010 we witnessed a giant British leap into the South Atlantic using the Falklands and their well disposed British inhabitants as their spearhead.
I have no idea what you Islanders or the UK will do in the future (you will surely kick back)………. but what I can tell you is that the “stir up” this British move has created in the whole region is much stronger than any of us could have imagined.
And…… What is the point?
The point is unequivocally to get rid of the intrusive presence of Great Britain in our region.
Regrettably, the settlers total allegiance with the British interests; be it in the form of a “Crown Colony”, an “Overseas Territory”, an “Autonomous British Region”, an “Independent Nation with a “special relationship” with the Mother Country” or whatever you choose to call it, does not leave much room for any settlement with them…….Does it?
Billy, One minute you say the problem needs solving between us as Kelpers and you as Argentina - then you go on about Britain?
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can we get it clarified - Britain,s key interest in the Islands is our well being and democratic rights. Britain is responsible for our external defence - that is why she maintains a military prescence here - its level is decided by Argentina!! The more bullyboy tactics and threats from Argentina - then the higher the British defence profile. Its very very simple.
Other than that there is now efective British prescence in the Islands - we run our own country internally NOT UK. We have just swoen in a new British Governor yes - the titular head of Government - the Queens representative - who can advise but NOT vote. We got out of being an old fashioned Colony many years ago.
Defuse the situation by finding a mechanism that ended up in say our Independence being recognized by Argentina - and there would be no need for British Military here!
In the meantime - yes 3000 of us are the victims of a nasty big bully of 40 million who tries to deny us the basic democratic principles on the UN Charter.
Think, honestly. Can you blame them?
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islander i was wondering. If argentina was to say they would allow you guys to go independant if we removed our forces from the area, would you really trust them?
“ ... The point is unequivocally to get rid of the intrusive presence of Great Britain in our region.... ”
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Think , it's good for people to have ambition ..... but you were right the first time .... there's nothing you can do :-)
Billious is confused as normal ... he still thinks thet Britain has no place in the south Atlantic even though we've been there longer than his people. We are there Billy ... and there's no way we'll go. If the islanders opt for independence then we'll turn South Georgia into another Ascension / Diego Garcia ..... after all, we've got our Antartic claim to protect !
Think, you and Billy have this entirely the wrong way round. The oil exploration was initiated by FIG, the licenses are issued by FIG and FIG will receive any revenues if there ever are any. Some of the companies involved would pay tax in Britain and FIG would no doubt share any oil revenue with with UK, because we would want to.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK military presence exists to protect us from you and because we want it to be here. And why wouldn't we.
The UK government has 'allegiance' to our interests. We could be independent any time we choose, but that doesn't seem likely any time soon, does it? One thing is clear; we don't have to ask permission from Argentina to take that path or any other.
Sometime in the future, particularly if the oil does flow, I can see independance being declared, supported by the principles stated at the ICJ over Kosovo.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britian will willingly give its consent and the spurious Argentine claim will fall before the ICJ ruling. Job done....... a couple of defence treaties later and the Falkland Islands can take a seat at the UN .... something to look forward to :-)
@17.Hoytred. l guess thats been their agenda all along. naturally they don't want Britain in the south atlantic. they want to loot Britain's part of Antarctica. especially with global warming(if it happens), many more minerals etc will be uncovered.South Georgia would be a great base to control Antarctica & shipping routes around cape horn. the oil is just the tip of the iceberg(pun). mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Oct 17th, 2010 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0(18)Monty 69
Oct 17th, 2010 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is that your answer after saying that you where “genuinely interested” in knowing?
Informing us that “we have got things entirely wrong” because the British modified some bureaucratic procedures and created something called the Falkland Island Government?
You must either be very joung, very simple or pulling my leg :-)
As I wrote in other posts before…
The FIG is nothing more than a Figleaf put in place by the British to cover their “private” interests.
You settlers are fully fledged British citizens wishing to represent British interests in the South Atlantic…
We know it perfectly well and we are acting accordingly…………
From the Oxford Dictionary -' Acting ... the art or occupation of performing fictional roles ...'
Oct 17th, 2010 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0As Argentina has no claim to the Falkland Islands, it's a bit of a cheek to criticise the island's government. It's not as though Argentina has such a great history of government herself ... eh, Think :-)
Islander; don´t you see the vicious circle in your words affecting your situation??
Oct 17th, 2010 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I think that an agreed independence could be a path for solution; but please don´t ask Argentina to start this path; independence is your task. Independece is always the task of the society that claims it.
I agree, you are victims; but victims of british colonialism that created the dispute and keep it alive staying in Malvinas, Georgias, Sandwich, and claiming a big portion of southamerican CONTINENTAL shelf and antartica. You are in the middle of the dispute, sorry, but nothing to blame to Argentina, blame your colonial master whose ambition make you a victim.
What dispute ? We've got them, you haven't .... no dispute !
Oct 17th, 2010 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Billy
Oct 17th, 2010 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's like letting your dog savage a postman and saying it's the post office's fault for making him deliver letters.
Think, I am, sadly, neither young nor simple.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What I was interested in was what the payoff is for you. Given that Falkland Islanders don't want anything to do with you under any circumstances, how do you think bullying us is going to help? do you imagine a day when we will all say 'look how mean and rotten Argentina is being to to us, perhaps we should be part of Argentina after all'
As for your comments about FIG, I find this the most offensive argument of all. We are not poor simple deluded fools and FIG are not a puppet for the UK. They are our elected representatives, and our civil service, appointed by our elected representatives. You might not like this, but don't imagine that you know more about it than I do.
(26) Monty69
Oct 17th, 2010 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well… If you are not young or simple… then the third possibility was…:-)
The “Payoff” for Argentina’s “denial of services” and political / diplomatic actions against Malvinas would be the stagnation of your society.
I have written about this in many of my previous posts….If interested you can look into MercoPress archives…
The FIG is no “puppet” or a bunch of deluded fools…… they are an integral part of Great Britain….
You settlers are not innocent bystanders…. You are fully fledged British citizens and an integral part of Great Britain….
We Argentineans know that perfectly and have decided not to assist you in any way and will try our best to make any forward movement of your society as difficult and bitter as possible.
IMHO, the scenario will be a return to the old days, when your best youth slowly drifts away in search of better opportunities (they have valid passports and residence rights, this days!) while a small obdurate hardcore group stays in the Islands for some more generations…………..
IMHO you should educate yourself about the relationship between the overseas territories and the UK. British citizens yes, 'integral part', no.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for leg pulling, I think that's your game. In fact I've moved on from thinking you are a sock puppet for the Argentine government to thinking you might actually be one of us. Anyone who wants to make life for a small community as 'difficult and bitter as possible' can't be too bothered about how they look to the rest of the world.
Looking bitter and twisted there Think ... that brick wall hurting?
Oct 17th, 2010 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A generation or two? The strange thing is, if all that remains is the 'obdurate' then Argentina has no hope for rather more than that! After all, the UK will keep the islands with longer term benefits in mind and what would Argentina have gained .... nothing.
But if the oil does show up, and remember it took more than 10 years for the North Sea's potential to become clear, then the islands will boom and Argentina will just look ... stupid!
Think, you make Argentina out to be small minded, petty and vindictive ..... and you've got me convinced :-)
You mean………. because of my intrinsic malice, arrogance and wickedness, I could qualify to be British ???
Oct 17th, 2010 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well……..That was a novel an interesting approach ……..
But………. I can, to the best of my knowledge, say that not one drop of Anglo blood runs through my veins…….except perhaps, for the ones that could have osmotically permeated into my ancestors bodies under the uncountable slaughters they have fought (and mostly lost) against you Brits.
Nor do I have any direct relation to any present or past Argentinean governments.
I am just telling things the way I Think they are…….
Ps:
While typing the above, this story juts came in
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/10/17/argentina-warned-falklands-defences-remain-strong
“Small community” my ars* :-)
Malice = “ ... the desire to harm someone; ill will...”
Oct 17th, 2010 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wickedness = “ ... the quality of being evil or morally wrong:...”
Arrogant = “ ... having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities ...”
Sorry Think, I reckon you're confusing us with someone else. We have no desire to harm Argentina, we are hardly 'evil' and we have quite an accurate sense of our importance in the world. After all we can find out about ourselves just by looking on Wikipedia :-)
(28) Monty69
Oct 17th, 2010 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You mean………. because of my intrinsic malice, arrogance and wickedness, I could qualify to be British ???
Well……..That was a novel an interesting approach ……..
But………. I can, to the best of my knowledge, say that not one drop of Anglo blood runs through my veins…….except perhaps, for the ones that could have osmotically permeated into my ancestors bodies under the uncountable slaughters they have fought (and mostly lost) against you Brits.
Nor do I have any direct relation to any present or past Argentinean governments.
I am just telling things the way I Think they are…….
Ps:
While typing the above, this story juts came in
en.mercopress.com/2010/10/17/argentina-warned-falklands-defences-remain-strong
“Small community” my ars* :-)
The internet is a strange and mysterious place, Think. There are people out there who pretend to put forward a point of view, eg pro- Argentine and anti- FI, but they do it in such a way as to make it appear cruel, bigoted and extreme. I had a look on Wicki because I thought there might be a name for it, and behold, there is; a strawman sockpuppet.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you might be one. If that is just the way you think, then sorry.
And yes, we are a small community. We just have some good friends. And a good thing too; before 1982 our defence was three men and a dog, and that didn't do us much good, did it. I know the presence of British forces sticks in your craw, but you've only got yourselves to blame.
“But………. I can, to the best of my knowledge, say that not one drop of Anglo blood runs through my veins”
Oct 17th, 2010 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never mind think, nobody's perfect.
(33) Monty69
Oct 17th, 2010 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plenty of those “sockpuppets” around here.
I remember meeting some of them :-)
But I could be real….
And I could be sitting on a house very similar to yours some 1.100 km WNW from you.
And I could be a person of median intelligence, some life experience, and a sense of moral.
And I could have a sweet spot for Border Collies…..
And I could truly believe that you are squatters in my territory.
And I suddenly am asked to willingly co-operate in the extraction of anything Great Britain desires from the South Atlantic.
Or else…..
Do you get my point?
Considering that Argentina is to blame for all of this, they should just go home and give up.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its there aggressiveness that we are their in the first place, and there violent attitude that we are there now,, if only they had a little bit of brain left,, they would understand, that if they changed there attitude and started to act like adults, showed people respect, stayed away from the Falklands, and stop all these threats, then the UK forces would be a fraction of what they are, but as they keep on pushing, like all naughty children they keep it up until they get a smack, then its to late to say sorry, [grow up] long live GREAT BRITAIN .
#35 - “ .. And I could truly believe that you are squatters in my territory.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I suddenly am asked to willingly co-operate in the extraction of anything Great Britain desires from the South Atlantic.
Or else….. Do you get my point?...”
You should stop believing Think. The information indoctrinated into you all you life is wring. Your beliefs are misplaced. The Falkland Islander's believe in their status as much as you believe in what we see as your spurious history ....
One situation, two sides .... so why doesn't Argentina take the matter to the ICJ ?
Do you get my point?
I get your point alright, Think. You're saying you're just an ordinary person very similar to me who happens to think differently to me.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, no.... firstly I can almost guarantee your house is nothing like mine, second it doesn't pay to have a soft spot for collies as they are all complete lunatics.
And although I too have morals, my moral code doesn't encompass inflicting pain and hardship on anybody. The Falklands thing doesn't impact on you personally in any way. You would, however, cheerfully ruin all of our lives in the name of some bizarre notion of national pride. So don't come all chummy with me because we aren't anything alike. In fact if bullying us makes you feel better in any way at all, then poor you.
(38) Monty69
Oct 18th, 2010 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I must admit that I’m mystified by your assurances about the total difference between our dwellings… There ain’t so many odd buildings in Malvinas…… Well, another mystery I will have to live with………..
About dogs….. I would suspect you are thinking about the wrong Collies …… Borders are extremely intelligent and balanced…..
And now to the central point:
You write:
”And although I too have morals, my moral code doesn't encompass inflicting pain and hardship on anybody”
The issue here is that you settlers are not just ”anybody”
You are the direct descendants of the serfs of the mighty British Empire that, 177 years ago, just sailed around the world grabbing what they could…
You even pride yourself about the “colonizing” efforts that originated from Malvinas in the XIX century to Tierra del Fuego and Patagonia… Happily they didn’t succeed.
Today you are the active spearhead and diplomatic excuse for the 6th economical power in the world to sail half around the world and grab other countries resources.
So…. don’t expect us to co-operate with a bunch of haughty squatters that just by switching and alternating their names between “Falklanders” and “British” think they can do whatever it pleases them.
“ ... think they can do whatever it pleases them .... ”
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which of course they can. 177 years ... nearly 178 ... and argentina is still bitching! You never had the islands Think so it seems a little strange that a country can be so petty minded over something so old. The world does not care and the little things that you can do will make no difference at all. Small and petty minded ... that's what you and countrymen are ... and doomed to failure.
Pity, you could have been better.
(40) Hoyt
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paraphrasin
g an lightly overweight ace from WWI:
“Whenever I hear the word pity from a Brit, I reach for my gun”.
Oder, af Deutsch:
“Wenn ich 'Mitleid' von ein Brite höre, nehme ich meine Pistole.”
whatever ... makes no difference :-)
Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0and you, think, are the direct descendants of the serfs of the mighty(ish) Spanish Empire that, 177+ years ago, just sailed around the world grabbing what they could…
Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does the fact that you turned your back on Spain whilst we have not turned our back on Britain make so much difference?
Just look at what happened to the Germans. Except for the SS that ran off to make their new homes and powerbase in............Argentina!
Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting you should say that Typhoon, Think seems to believe that it's perfectly alright to actively descriminate against and victimise people because of their ancestry, I seem to recall hearing of that kind of thing happening before somehwere, in Nazi Germany was it?....and he's quoting german at us....
Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think the Nazi, nice.
Let me get this straight Think; you think that people can forfeit the right to be treated in a moral and humane fashion because of where their ancestors came from 8 generations ago. Which part of the UN declaration on human rights did you get that from?
Oct 18th, 2010 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good grief, you'll be suggesting shipping us all off to Madagascar next.
You are the direct descendants of the serfs of the mighty British Empire that, 177 years ago, just sailed around the world grabbing what they could
Oct 18th, 2010 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where does that leave the Canadians(not the French ones),Australians(not the asians greeks italians macedonions and croats) New Zealanders(not the Maroi )
For any Isalnders.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I were to invest in a cruise to the Falklands, assuming I could find one that avoids the rat pit, do you think I could get some sort of visit with the British forces? I do love military equipment. Especially military equipment designed to negate enemies.
48 Typhoon: If you fly i believe it is via military bases, might be an easier option.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But then again they probably do tours unless it's classified.
No smart replies from Obersturmführer Think yet I see.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You are the direct descendants of the serfs of the mighty British Empire that, 177 years ago, just sailed around the world grabbing what they could…” (Think)
Oct 18th, 2010 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”and you, think, are the direct descendants of the serfs of the mighty(ish) Spanish Empire that, 177+ years ago, just sailed around the world grabbing what they could…” (WestisBest)
In the Falklands there never were any indigenous people to return the land to. Whereas in Argentina...
Think. Still proving yourself utterly incapable of providing any evidence that the Falklands ever were Argentine territory.
Think doesn't do serious debate. Only scarcasm.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 051 dab14763
Oct 18th, 2010 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In the Falklands there never were any indigenous people to return the land to. Whereas in Argentina...”
Maybe the Argentinians have shot themselves in the foot with the visit of Ambassador Donatus Keith Saint Aimée, it's not the Falklands he's interested in but Patagonia instead, a place where there is a geniune reason for the United Nations Special Committee on Decolonisation to have an interest in.
Monty69
Oct 18th, 2010 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My post (39) is easily understandable if you don’t just take the one paragraph out of context and try to play the race card…
Let me try to rephrase it to you:
You settlers are the active spearhead and diplomatic excuse for the 6th economical power in the world to sail half around the world and grab other countries resources.
Friendship and co-operation are not “human rights” they are privileges to be earned.
You settlers have one and only one message to us… Leave us alone…, we don’t need you…, we don’t want you,… bugger off…..
We, as a region, are now beginning to tell you the same … Leave us alone…, we don’t need you…, we don’t want you,… bugger off.
Keep away from our Countries, Ports and Waters.
We don’t want to have any “business” with you whatsoever.
We don’t want to have any “business” with people having any ”business” with you.
Nothing “Racial” “Immoral” or “Inhumane” here, mate….
It is OUR right to choose our friends, business partners and guests.
And YOU are not longer welcome as any of the above mentioned.
So…. don’t expect us to co-operate in any way with a bunch of haughty squatters that just by switching and alternating their names between “Falklanders” and “British” think they can do whatever it pleases them.
And how do you propose we earn your 'friendship and co-operation'? As I understand it, the only option acceptable to you is for us to be unwillingly colonised by Argentina.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, you can keep your friendship. Just stop bullying your neighbours, who would be friends with us except you won't let them because you're bigger and stronger than they are, and you might just take your toys away and not play any more. Oh, and stop denying your friends and allies 'friendly passage' through your waters as it's against international law.
We don't switch our names; we are always British Falkland Islanders. Actually one day we might become just Falkland Islanders, but until you stop threatening us we'll never know.
'haughty'??? Why haughty? I don't think that describes us at all. We are famous for being warm and hospitable to anyone who turns up here, as long as they aren't pointing a gun at us. If you're talking again about our irrational objection towards being colonised, well, it's those little cultural differences between nations that keeps things interesting, isn't it? No need for pejorative language, old bean.
Unfriendliness from us?? LOL! Pot calling the kettle black or what?
Oct 18th, 2010 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'll find Herr Think that our “unfriendliness” to Argentina is principally down to your actions in 1982 (and don't even think of saying that wasn't your fault, you seem to be able to lay any perfidious action of Britain's at our door no matter how long ago so just don't go there) and also due to your ongoing wish to kick us out of our home on some jingoistic principal, with “friends” like that who needs enemies?
Keep away from our Countries, Ports and Waters.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don’t want to have any “business” with you whatsoever.
We don’t want to have any “business” with people having any ”business” with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVjSdtlAaMQ
Think could do with a slap behind the back of the legs
(55) Monty69
Oct 18th, 2010 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your” phony” version of things is that we are bullying our neighbors.
The truth is, as you very well know, that we are not in a position of “bullying” anybody.
This is a self chosen situation and that’s one of the reasons our smaller neighbors are beginning to trust us.
Argentina’s economic, social and geopolitical importance for our neighbors is ten thousand fold bigger than the Malvinas.
No question about their choice when they can see that we mean it and they themselves begin to be quitet worried about Great Britain expansive policy in the region.
So…….We will continue, with ever renewed force, our policy of regionalization of the “Malvinas Issue” not only because it has demonstrated to be the most effective in the short term but also because it has proved to be a very positive and “cheap” way for all our Countries to unite against a bullying and failing ex-superpower.
Haughtiness is in my book the word that fits best with your behavior. …..
Your “hydrocarbons exploration” without stopping one minute to think about the consequences… (The Argies can’t do nothing: Haughtiness)
Your total “surprise” and subsequent “contempt” when Argentina began to react…. (The Argies can’t do nothing: Haughtiness)
The steady direct personal insults from your political leaders to our political leaders…. (The Argies can’t do nothing: Haughtiness)
Yes ….. Haughtiness
Don't be stupid, Twinky. Or at least try not to publicly show how stupid you are. As well as being an argie government propagandist.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You bully and interfere in Chile. You bully and interfere in Uruguay. Couldn't really bully Brazil, but you certainly interfered.
Try to understand. No-one likes Argentina. Some may find you temporarily useful. Once the usefulness is finished...............!
Your neighbours trust you? wake up Think, they hate your guts, you get lipservice support from them regarding the Falklands becuase you use the old 'amigos against the British Imperialists' line.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take Chile for instance, I love travelling in Chile, as soon as they find you're from the Falklands they treat you like long lost friends, we have the common ground of years of persecution from Argentina. People I know who've travelled and done business in Uraguay have found the same thing. This is the way it is Think, they're not your friends and they don't trust you.
The truth is, as you very well know, that we are not in a position of “bullying” anybody.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.latinbusinesschronicle.com/app/article.aspx?id=203
Isla Martín García is an Argentine island off the Río de la Plata coast of Uruguay. The enclave island is within the boundaries of Uruguayan waters
Uruguay just give them to Argentina ?
We don’t want to have any “business” with people having any ”business” with you.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if this was true, then argentina would have NO friends at all.
no food/no trade/ no nothing, idiots or what
Let us be clear about this, Think; the oil exploration was undertaken with due regard for the consequences, and Argentina's reaction is utterly predictable. Argentina has always done us harm at every oppportunity; this is just another round of the same old nonsense.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand that our political leaders made overtures to your political leaders offering co-operation over hydrocarbons. Your political leaders don't actually recognise that we even have any political leaders, so I don't imagine they thought we were being 'haughty'.
What an odd word that is; it smacks of old colonial 'natives getting too uppity' attitudes. Well, we do know our place; it just isn't where you think it should be.
“ ... The truth is, as you very well know, that we are not in a position of “bullying” anybody....”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0But Argentina does employ bullying tactics Think .... against the islanders they're just not veru effective.
Nothing you can do :-)
(63) Monty69
Oct 19th, 2010 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0And who is the brainwashed now?
You say:
”Argentina has always done us harm at every opportunity”
I say:
Even under war conditions during the Argentinean invasion leaded by the worst criminal bastards Argentina ever produced you were treated quite correctly..
The worst histories you can muster are about troops utilizing the post office as designated latrine ….( “ Islander1” repeats that it happens after the cease of fire and that I can ask the postal workers of the time.... Surely the postal office/latrine was open and fully manned through the war and especially during the last days of it!)
Or the one where that bastard (of full British lineage, by the way) pointed a gun at little Lisa Watson (a story ”recicled” in here recently by “WestisBest” that apparently had a gun pointed at him too)….
Facts are: Not one civilian dead… not one tortured… not one physically harmed… destruction of private property kept to an absolute minimum etc etc etc….
During the rest of our common history, we have treated you much better than any other squatter group in the world could expect to be treated (France and their gypsies for example)
And…. To make a long story short:
You say:
”This is just another round of the same old nonsense.”
Mister …. You could not be more wrong…………………
”This is just another round of the same old nonsense.”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can I assume then, that this is in fact just another round of a different old nonsense....... but a nonsense all the same?
No sign of any great success with the latest tactics .... still not read anything about starving islands on the verge of capitulation :-)
The plan is more like:
Oct 19th, 2010 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Bored to death Islanders on their way to emigration” :-)
.... now that may work :-)
Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or the one where that bastard (of full British lineage, by the way)
Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Irish, big difference think
Facts are: Not one civilian dead… not one tortured… not one physically harmed… destruction of private property kept to an absolute minimum etc etc etc….
And they are supposed to be grateful that they didnt?
pity they didnt behave that way in their own country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War
Or the one where that bastard (of full British lineage, by the way) pointed a gun at little Lisa Watson (a story ”recicled” in here recently by “WestisBest” that apparently had a gun pointed at him too)….
Oct 19th, 2010 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0No “apparantly” about it Think, kind of sticks in your mind that thing does, I doubt you've ever experienced it so you find it easy to be flip and dissmissive, does it ever enter your little head that for you, and all Argentina, this Falklands/Malvinas stuff is entirely academic once you get past your wounded national pride.
For us it's real.
Outrageous, Think. You're feeling pleased with yourself because Argentina didn't commit war crimes on us when it had the chance. And saying that is what we deserved!
Oct 19th, 2010 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for 'brainwashing', everyone who was here during the conflict has stories to tell about it, and everyone bears the scars to some extent.This is our history, and you are a nasty part of it. Get over it.
”Or the one where that bastard (of full British lineage, by the way)”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet again you show your true credentials Herr Think, labeling actions to ancestry. You once said you didn't have a drop of Anglo blood, I can see that now, you're certainly 100% Aryan.
(70) Westi
Oct 19th, 2010 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) If it really happened to you,….. my sincere excuses….. It sticks alright….
2) For some of us in the continent the “Malvinas issue” is way past “academic”.
3) And we know perfectly that for You it’s real….. We hope You soon realize that too….
(71) Monty 69
1) Yes, I am extremely pleased that no war crimes where committed by Argentineans against the civilian population of Malvinas.
2) I have never, be it in though, speech or writing expressed anything that can be interpreted otherwise than the civilian population of Malvinas deserves to be treated fairly.
3) But in our eyes you settlers are just British citizens keeping custody over some territory for the full benefit of your mother country. As such… we want you out….
(72) Westi
Please drop the “Nazi”card …
Please drop the “Race” card….
The “Malvinas issue” has nothing to do with it….
No matter how you try to turn or twist it,…… is just non-existent…
“But in our eyes you settlers are just British citizens keeping custody over some territory for the full benefit of your mother country.”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, you need to adjust your perspective think......Now pay attention....
We do not keep custody over the Falkland Islands for the benefit of the United Kingdom, we are here because it is our home, all the recent oil exploration that has got you Argentinians so riled is us exploiting our natural resources, not The UK. The only reason UK armed forces are here is to defend US from YOU due to YOUR actions.
“Please drop the “Nazi”card …
Please drop the “Race” card…. ”
I will when you do Think.
the civilian population of Malvinas deserves to be treated fairly.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you settlers are just British citizens keeping custody over some territory for the full benefit of your mother country. As such… we want you out….
Are you for real Think?
The “you are British so we want you out”, is the ace of the “Race” card deck.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(76)free.comment
Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mister free.comment method to make anything appear racist is pathetic but commonplace
First he “slightly” modifies the text he “quotes”...
And then he invents a new race... .... ....
The British race :-)
@ 43 WestisBest ”and you, think, are the direct descendants of the serfs of the mighty(ish) Spanish Empire that, 177+ years ago, just sailed around the world grabbing what they could…”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think Think thought this through :) LOL
Think, you may call it “artistic licence”.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is London calling...........
Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11571093
.....and your point is what, exactly? This is old news, and I for one read the BBC news every day so I probably saw it before you did. Are you saying it isn't true, or it is true and has some significance we have all missed?
Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay are bullies, racists and brainwashed morons....
Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina can't do nothing :-)
Think...Nothing has happened.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Each day, there are more and more fellow South American nations that understands that a permanent member of the UN Security Council is behaving like something from the colonial past.”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11571093
OK, so tou think these missile tests are an act of provocation......what're you going to do about it eh?
Oct 19th, 2010 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure one of your mercosaur buddies'll hold your coat for you.
“I'm sure one of your mercosaur buddies'll hold your coat for you”
Oct 19th, 2010 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are not title of nobility , like UK, in the Americas, and is getting warm down here. Uruguay a few weeks ago did not alowed HMS Gloucester to use their ports, that is one of the things we can do about it.
Still not sure why you keep posting this link. We all know that you can exert pressure on your neighbours to disoblige us.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The reaction of the Uruguayans to the Gloucester thing says it all, and I paraphrase....... 'We'd like to help you and we want to be your friends but the Argies have got us over a barrel.'
No need for that, hundreds of thousands of them live in Argentina, and like Mr Mujica said ” there isn't another place in the world(Argentina) that we feel like home”
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Urugualan merchants lost a little money and Uruguay lost a little face ... the Gloucester lost nothing at all :-)
Oct 20th, 2010 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Think, quite correct - Argentina can do nothing :-)
The Gloucester lost his pride.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whats the 3 colours of the argie flag marcos?
Oct 20th, 2010 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Blue white and YELLOW!
“The Gloucester lost his pride.”
Oct 20th, 2010 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, if that is all you need to believe to satisfy you you can have my pride as well, I'm now all humility...humble, humble, humble.
With time, all South American countries will have the same policy toward Kelperkistan, you'll see!!!
Oct 20th, 2010 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I doubt it JorgeARSE, not too many seem to like you enough :-)
Oct 21st, 2010 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Kelperkistan”
Oct 24th, 2010 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got to love that word. Compairing the islands to afghanistan when the islanders them selves enjoy a per capita over four times higher than Argentina.
Kelperkistan
Or
Arginistan?
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