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G 24 president suggests “a better understanding” on Falklands/Malvinas
Argentina and Great Britain should understand each other regarding the disputed Falklands/Malvinas, suggested the president of the United Nations Decolonization Committee Ambassador Donathus Keith Saint Aimée, who arrived Thursday to Buenos Aires responding to an invitation extended last May by Argentine authorities. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAccording to the protest note Argentina was never anticipated or warned about “missile firing exercises in the Malvinas”.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats because they were taking place in the Falklands
” ... “Both countries have always stated they are willing to negotiate (the disputed Islands). We must try and see how they can sit round a table and negotiate”, said the Santa Lucia ambassador ....”
Oct 15th, 2010 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0This of course is a misunderstanding by the ambassador.
The British are perfectly prepared to negotiate provided :-
a) the islanders wish it, and
b) Argentina buys a dictionary and gets a clear understanding of the word 'negotiate' !
Tell my president to shut up, please! She doesn't speak for me, I don't like her, I want her to be ejected from our Milky Way! Can't the UNO do that?
Oct 15th, 2010 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0UNDCA Donathus Keith Saint Aimée should only ask the Islanders what they want, not my President, she's a fraud. Everything she says is a lie!
Will the Committee Ambassador now be going on to visit the Falkland islands themselves? The Falklands have extended an invitation to the committee numerous times and they have never taken this invite up.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0As the Ambassador has now visited Argentina will he be showing his impartiallity and taking up the invitation to visit the Falklands and it's people, the people the committee is supposed to represent and protect or will they be ignored again by this increasingly irrelevant body?
Cmon Guys!!
Oct 15th, 2010 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Give xbarilox (an authentic and certified Argentinean:-) a hand.
He is trying hard to start a “sincere” debate :-)
Cmon.... Praise him.... Help him... He is your best chance :-)
Best chance of what? Getting some sense out of an Argentine ....... hey, maybe you have a point there :-)
Oct 15th, 2010 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Ambassador doesn't want to visit the Falklands because it's easier to veiw the Falklands issue as a simple disagreement between the UK and Argentina, if he came here he'd have to aknowledge that there's a third party, the Falkland Islanders.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's a box ticker...and we don't fit in any of the boxes.
The C-24 is fast becoming irrelevant - (from the Fourth Committee last week )
Oct 15th, 2010 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ ... the democratically elected representatives of the Falkland islands had asked the “Committee of 24” to recognize that they, like others, should be free to exercise the right to self-determination. They had also said that no civilian population had been removed before they settled on the islands over eight generations ago. They had been the only inhabitants of the Falkland Islands. He also stressed that all peoples could, for their own end, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources, and in no case could a people be deprived of its own means of subsistence....”
and -
“ ... the representative of the United Kingdom ... the resolution failed to recognize the progress that had been made in the relationship between the United Kingdom and its territories. He repeated that the United Kingdom would support the move to independence when that was an option. His delegation strongly considered the “Special Committee of 24” to be outdated and strongly believed that the United Nations should devote its resources to more urgent issues...”
Maybe the C-24's days are numbered. After all with only 16 'colonies' left on its books and no recent successes .... where can it go now. Defunct !
By the way ... anyone notice that the Gibraltar Government has asked the UK to provide a naval detachment to patrol its territorial waters. A gun boat ... coming to waters near you ..... soon!
(7) Westi
Oct 15th, 2010 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excuse me…..???
You are British…..
You say you are British…
You want to remain British….
What “Box” do you “pretend” to fit in?
I saw that about Gibraltar. Excellent idea. The Spanish Guardia Civil may get to find that a hole in your boat is a bit discouraging. Something Argentina already knows!!
Oct 15th, 2010 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will it be manned by RN people or Gibraltar Guard?
Oct 15th, 2010 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK Government is responsible for enforcing Gibraltar's territorial waters apparently ... so it'll be the RN !
Oct 15th, 2010 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What “Box” do you “pretend” to fit in?
Oct 15th, 2010 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of 17 British 'boxes'
English, Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish, Manx, Jersey Islanders, Guernsey Islanders, Anguillians, Bermudians, British Virgin Islanders, Caymanians, Falkland Islanders, Gibraltarians, Montserratians, Pitcairners, St Helenians (Tristanians), Turks and Caicos Islanders.
That's us all over :-)
Oct 15th, 2010 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dab and Hoyt........
Oct 15th, 2010 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes...............Also............ The British Box............
We don't fit, think, because the Falkland Islands is not a colony.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(16) Westi...
Oct 15th, 2010 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We agree…
You are no Colony ….
You are a group of fully fledged British citizens squatting some Argentine Islands ….
Think,
Oct 15th, 2010 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please provide actual evidence that the Falklands have ever been Argentine territory, making reference to international law as it was in the first half of the 19th century as this would be the applicable international law.
@18 dab. Don't be foolish. Twinky can't do that. He would have to trot out all the Argentine “facts” that have been destroyed on innumerable occasions, and he won't do that. So he'll come out with some smartass irrelevant comment. Once his boss has told him what it is!
Oct 15th, 2010 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Typhoon. I have no illusions about Think's reply or, just as likely, lack of reply.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2010/gacol3212.doc.htm
Oct 15th, 2010 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”According to a draft resolution that the Special Committee approved by consensus, a peaceful and negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the United Kingdom was the only way to end the special and particular colonial situation of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)“
”the upholding of colonial situations well into the twenty-first century is an anachronism that must end”.”
”According to a draft resolution”
Oct 15th, 2010 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A draft resolution is not a resolution
that the Special Committee approved by consensus, a peaceful and negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the United Kingdom was the only way to end the special and particular colonial situation of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)“
Argentina is not interested in a negotiated settlement, only the handover of the Falklands to Argentina.
”the upholding of colonial situations well into the twenty-first century is an anachronism that must end”.”
Then stop trying to turn the Falklands into a colony of Argentina.
The funny thing is that even if we were to hand over the islands to Argentina, Argentina would then be compelled by the Special Committee to make the islands independant, as it would be a colony.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Therefore, handing over the islands to the AR would be the wisest thing to do, Zethee. What is stopping you? The islander's wishes? Well, the Chagossians´ wishes were quite irrelevant in the past, weren´t they?
Oct 15th, 2010 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How would it? The islanders are happy, we are happy.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“in the past”
This isn't the past.
Let´s do that zethee, I´m sure that if kelpers or the UN compelled argentina to grant malvinas independence we will be glad to do that if this means that UK should leave the region, that´s our goal, not to rule over kelpers, we are not seeking that. we want peace & cooperation in south atlantic but without that strange & dangerous body called uk.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only strange and dangerous people in the South Atlantic live in Argentina, everyone knows that.
Oct 15th, 2010 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wireless keep that in mind just in case
Oct 15th, 2010 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“that´s our goal, not to rule over kelpers, we are not seeking that.”
Oct 15th, 2010 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a spectacular lie, Your own government doesn't even agree with that. It's a territorial dispute, my mind boggles at some of the down right stupid stuff some of you come out with.
It´s a territorial dispute beetwen UK and Argentina; give Malvinas, Georgias & Sandwich back to Argentina, leave south atlantic and in the same act Argentina will grant kelpers independence. As I told you before, Argentina´s goal is to make UK leave south atlantic, not to rule over kelpers.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0#26 - Billious , you are quite wrong. Argentina wants to possess the islands and will never accept independence for the islanders. The British being in the region is not the point. Besides, we'd still be there ... in South Georgia!
Oct 16th, 2010 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0#28 - Nicely Dim - you are correct for once, the Argentines are strange and dangerous in their own minds :-)
#30 Billious, there's no dispute. We have no doubt about our sovereignty. and while Argentina lays a spurious claim to the Falkland Islands, she cannot even manage to come up with one of those for South Georgia or the South Sandwich Islands. And once again you are wrong about Argentina's goal .... ask Think!
@Hoytred
Oct 16th, 2010 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don’t worry mate we will take the Island back by any mean.
We have time to wait the right opportunity
We aren't worried.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0We've been waiting for a successful try for the last 177 years .... oops, nearly 178 :-)
Oct 16th, 2010 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Billy, glad to know you also accept that Independence is the only realistic way of solving the argument. But it needs your Govt to accept the principle , not just a few ordinary people. At the moment the Arg Govt policy is that everything here belongs to them-full stop final. end of discussion!
Oct 16th, 2010 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Prophecy of the Fox
Oct 16th, 2010 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Her Army and her Navy
Britain shall cast aside
Soldiers and ships are costly things
Defence an empty Pride”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8067784/David-Cameron-steps-in-to-quell-military-revolt-over-cuts-to-defence-budget.html
Think - “ We agree… You are no Colony ...”
Oct 16th, 2010 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0So why are the Falklands on C-24's list ?
And if they're not a colony then any negotiation about ithe island's status is only between the UK and the Islanders ... no?
Now your rep at the C-24 actually describes the islands a a 'special colonial situation' ... is that because the islands have to be some sort of colony in order that Argentina can have a forum before the C-24 and Fourth Committee. Whereas, it would have no forum at all ?
Very poetic Marcos ... but you've got to stop smoking that shit!
(37) Hoyt
Oct 16th, 2010 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am beyond obliging and humoring Brits asking more or less trivial rhetoric questions without really wishing an answer…..
Tried it…..most responses fitted roughly in two categories:
I) You (Think) are a Gvt. agent, brainwashed and an idiot….
II) We (UK) got possession; you can’t do” nothing”….
But I will certainly will continue to comment on positive or interesting stories and developments in the “Malvinas Issue” and reacting to some of the worst jingoists and liars in here…..
The Argentine strategy of using the regular six monthly test firing of the Rapier 7km range surface to air missile as a pretext for their continued propaganda about the Falklands is cynical, desperate, futile & without credibility
Oct 16th, 2010 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The attempt to protray this regular test as a military escalation in the region by the UK is wholly false; these short range light weight anti-aircraft missiles have never threatened others, since the tests take place inside the Falklands territorial waters
I find it of particular note that no previous protests were made by the Argentine government, since of course, Argentina has no right of protest over this & the current efforts are wholly fabricated to serve ever more desperate Argentina propaganda
I can see that as a general means for the spreading false propaganda, Argentina does not care that it has wholly exaggerated & recklessly & fraudulently misrepresented this regular test of a harmless small anti-aircraft missile system within territorial waters. Before 1982 invasion by Argentina, there were 25 British soldiers there. Such is their fanaticism, the end justifies the means for them in their twisted logic
The reality is the worlds' governments understand this posturing propaganda & posturing for what it is: Propaganda. Eventually the free press shall expose these misrepresentations for what they are. However, the rights of the Falklanders to chose their future independently of the AR & UK as agreed by the UN GA under resolution 1514(XV) remains unchanged
Therefore Argentina & Argentines should concentrate more on the implementation of Article 73 of the UN Charter & UN GA Resolution 1514(XV) for the Falklanders, which of course Argentina voted to apply to the Falklanders
Argentina needs to submit its claim for the Falkands to the ICJ, if it has one. If not, it should cease its flagrant breach of resolutions 1514 and 2065, whereby the AR is obliged to further the Falklanders self-determination
Truly shame on Argentina.
Eloquent Domingo, Eloquent!!
Oct 16th, 2010 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll take that as a 'don't know' then Think :-)
Oct 16th, 2010 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@39. Bravo.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Islander, it´s not new for you my thinking; but you are wrong about what Argentina want; now Argentina is becaming more verborragic about colonialism (british presence) than sovereignty, you must read beetween lines.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, about independence, it´s you that must start talking about that not Argentina, perhaps if you start the debate you will find a fine surprise, Argentina can´t talk about that if you don´t do it first.
I see that Twinky and his boss were unable to come up with a decent response. So please, everyone, from now on just let's ignore him. Except that I will report every comment that he comes out with that is off-topic.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for Bilious. What a clown! There will be NO debate involving Argentina about Falklands independence, because it is none of Argentina's business. What is likely is that the Falklands as a British Overseas Territory where Britain remains responsible for foreign affairs and defence will be replaced by an independent Falklands with a defence treaty with Britain.
Britain will be there long after you're dead and buried, Bilious.
(41) Hoyt
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll take that as a you don't want to know Mr. Red :-)
43 Billy Hayes:
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again, british removal from the falklands islands will not mean british removal from the south atlantic.
Well well,Reading this article and comments of it, I found one of Mercopress famous readers! Harrier61, Typhoon...
Oct 16th, 2010 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0harrier61
“Today 10:23 You have repeated the same post on any number of threads and I'm tired of it. I am reporting your comment, as I will any repeats. If you don't have any original ideas, keep quiet! ”
Cry baby.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8067784/David-Cameron-steps-in-to-quell-military-revolt-over-cuts-to-defence-budget.html#dsq-content
You have too much time on your hands Marcos..
Oct 16th, 2010 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 I can do the same for you.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does the C24 president plan on visiting the Falklands to ask the islanders opinion, why would the president of committe that is supposed to represent them not do that?
Oct 16th, 2010 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'nuff said.
Absolutely british removal from malvinas means removal from south atlantic.
Oct 16th, 2010 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0kelper argument of selfdetermination a fine, kelpers are in argentine constitution. If kelpers some day resolve to use the power of selfdetermination and argentina say ok there won´t be nothing to defend in south atlantic & in the southamerican continental shelf.
Do you know why it is called continental? So britain doesn´t belong to continent, is an extra-continental power, there is no place in occidental modern world for this situation of occupation of foreing land, is a belicose situation forever last.
Tiny Georgias or tiny Sandwich can´t make 350 continental shelf miles for britain 14k miles away against 46 argentine millons living next and in the same continent.
#49 Harrier61 and Typhoon(same person) Busted!
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So britain doesn´t belong to continent”
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, we do live on an island.
“ ...Tiny Georgias or tiny Sandwich can´t make 350 continental shelf miles for britain 14k miles away against 46 argentine millons living next and in the same continent .... ”
Oct 16th, 2010 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wanna bet :-)
#51 “Tiny Georgias or tiny Sandwich ...... and in the same continent.”
Oct 17th, 2010 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0When exactly did South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands move to south america? Arg education at its finest.
“ ... He is thought to be hoping to persuade more British companies, including mining corporations, to invest in Chile ...”
Oct 17th, 2010 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11557578
Little surprised that Chile's President Sebastian Pinera hasn't cancelled his vist to Britain as a demonstration of Chile's unity with Argentina? Looking for investment too ..... wonder what the quid pro quo will be :-)
I think you'll find that South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are Falkland Island dependancies....and they're nearer to us than to Argentina.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
Actually South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, since 1985, are separate British Overseas Territory to the Falkland Islands, with its own flag and Constitution.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's about 30 British Scientists and support staff down there, together with a Deputy Post Master and Government Officer.
Interesting to note that the British first sighted South Georgia in 1675, and later claimed the island in 1775, also in 1775 the British discovered the South Sandwich Islands, and later claimed those islands in 1908.
In 1917 the British also claimed the British Antarctic Territory.
Johnny come lately Argentina leased an old whaling station on South Georgia from the British in 1905, as a meteorological station, but decided unilaterally to claim South Georgia in 1927, which was protested by the British. Sounds a familiar tactic doesn't it? The lease ended in 1949 and the Argentines left. However, on 19th March 1982 Argentine Soldiers posing as scarp metal workers occupied the abandoned whaling station, and on 3rd April attacked and occupied the British base at Grytviken, only to be turfed out on 25th April by the British.
After a few years they decided to put in a claim for the South Sandwich Islands in 1938, again protested by the British. From 25th January 1955 until the summer of 1956, Argentina unilaterally decided to establish a Summer Base on Thule Island, South Sandwich Islands, again under British protest.
In 1976 Argentina decided to establish a Naval Base at Thule Island, which was not detected by the British until 1978, this was immediately protested, and their were attempts by the British to resolve the situation by diplomatic means, however, it was not until 20th June 1982 that the British removed the Argentines from the island.
Interestingly, Chile decided to claim an area of Antarctica that overlapped the British Claim in 1940, and Argentina followed in similar fashion 1942, I'm not sure whether this was protested as there was WW2 going on at the time!!!
Ah the same Saint Lucia who up until 2 years ago were opposed to whaling until the Japanese dangled about $60 million on a fish line in front of them and suddenly they remembered they had a long and proud history of whaling? I would be not at all surprised if those friendly handshakes contained several backhanders.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its no surprise really that the Caribbean countries who voted to side with Argentina over the Falklands happened to be the ones with the highest levels of corruption in the carribbean.
Now wouldn't it be someone very devious who introduced a certain school of thought which suggests that the reason for Argentina's refusal to allow the IMF to read the account books is due to some money being misplaced in private Caribbean bank accounts, namely various heads of states and highly placed officials?
3 xbarilox,
Oct 18th, 2010 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0What exactly is it about Cristina Kirchner's posture on Malvinas that you don't like?
@ 51 What a shame for you. Ascension, Saint Helena, Tristan da Cunha. All British. All in the South Atlantic!
Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 60 She exists! She opens her mouth. Two features of her posture that are an affront to human beings!
51 Billy Haze:
Oct 18th, 2010 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I find it interesting you saying we belong in the continent of Europe only, might I ask one question?
You state that countries belong to their continents and their continents only, so why then are you claiming a large chunk of another continent, Antarctica, as an integral part of your territory?
For you to claim another piece of a continent Argentina clearly does not belong on, this in your eyes would then imply that Britain and the islanders have every right therefore to claim the islands?
I take it then that this contradiction in Malvinist political thinking is a subject rarely visited?
You won't get an answer to that Rhaurie-Craughwell, 'one rule for us, another rule for everyone else' appears to be a well established tradition in Argentina. Hypocrisy? Noooo..not for an Argentinian.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinism is a very interesting political discourse full of the above contradictions, I list a few others
Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They claim Antarctica based on Historical duration yet claim 170 years of uninterrupted sovereignty is an irrelevant factor in the Falklands dispute.
They claim we were nasty and evil and took the islands by force, yet took most of their country by force themselves.
They claim we violated their territorial integrity, yet forget to mention that they expanded by 80% at their neighbours and indigenous expense.
The list goes on and on, doubtless some Malvinist will come up with some shit for brains argument that means Argentina has a a get out clause for the all above, probably be the dead donkey “colonialism argument” again.
Who was it stole half of Tierra del Fuego from Chile?
Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ding!
Oct 19th, 2010 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina!...for the sake of territorial integrity.
And now your starter for ten
Oct 19th, 2010 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isla Martín García is an Argentine island.in whos waters does it lie
Uruguayan waters
Argentine waters
Billy Haze has been strangely silent, perhaps I confused the poor bugger?
Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you've just got through to him how hypocritial he is.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 067 stick up your junta
Oct 21st, 2010 - 04:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sticky don't try to create a conflict or a problem where none exists. Ok?. I know you are a warmonger but take it easy.
Isla Martín García is an Argentine island off the Río de la Plata coast of Uruguay. The enclave island is within the boundaries of Uruguayan waters; in 1973 both countries reached an AGREEMENT establishing Martín García as an Argentine territory and also as a nature reserve.
In return for recognition of Argentina's sovereignty over the island in question, Argentina made territorial concessions in the Río de la Plata, NOTABLY THE CONCESSION OF Juncal Island to Uruguay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Mart%C3%ADn_Garc%C3%ADa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Mart%C3%ADn_Garc%C3%ADa
Most generous!
Oct 21st, 2010 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0I enjoy reading brits that don´t understand the relationship with Uruguay: if eventually we have to concede Martín García island to them, I would have no doubt. We feel them as brothers.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But it´s not an issue in our relationship, as DSE wrote.
Look for a better case.
If Pepe Mugica run for president in Argentina, he would probably win. Surely has my vote. And I am a confessed rightist!!!
We feel them as brothers.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had my doubts about you spanish types lol
Sure, you don´t feel comfort with the concept of having “brothers”.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Irish people could explain why.
Giving sibling of the same sex a feel? Each to his own, but I'm sure there's laws about that, I think sticky was trying to pull your leg, but as usual it went right over your Malvinist head.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 074 , first sentence, indeed.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and WTF british-lack-of-feelings-for-the-rest-of-the-human-race has something to do with the Islas Malvinas?
After all, was an englishman that define a particular cosmovision: “Man is a wolf to man”
Pheel, That's a latin phrase. The memoir is from a polish person.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right.
Thomas Hobbes's just echoed the line.
What matters is if you believe or/and promote it as a political philosophy.
I think history has proven it to be true. In the future that might not be the case.
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