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UK defence review: “peculiar” sweeping cuts in all forces
Harrier jump jets, the Royal Navy's flagship HMS Ark Royal and planned Nimrod spy planes are to be axed and 42,000 Ministry of Defence and armed forces jobs cut by 2015. Unveiling the strategic defence review, British PM David Cameron said defence spending would fall by 8% over four years. Read full article
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Oct 20th, 2010 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/liberaldemocrats/8074669/Danny-Alexander-reveals-500000-job-cuts-in-document-gaffe.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/liberaldemocrats/8074669/Danny-Alexander-reveals-500000-job-cuts-in-document-gaffe.html
” .... a fleet of hunter killer Astute class submarines, complete production of six Type 45 destroyers and start a program to develop “less expensive, more flexible, modern frigates .....”
Oct 20th, 2010 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm no great fan of carriers, which I still see as big targets. More subs is spot on and lighter, faster surface craft make a harder target.
The other day Liam Fox referred to the refurbishment of the Falklands airfield, to which of course will be added the new airport facilities on St. Helena thus reducing the need for a large fleet to defend the Falklands.
Not mentioned above, but a big increase in the resources available to Special Forces to fund a lot of new technology.
No cuts in missiles either :-)
One of the good things about all the recent publicity of course is that it has reminded the British people that the Falkland Islands are part of Britain and also that so many lives were lost in '82 on their defence. Attitudes in the UK are hardening against Argentinia again .... well done Think, and all of those pursuing the new aggression :-)
Morcuss, you are an idiot!
“I'm no great fan of carriers, which I still see as big targets. More subs is spot on and lighter, faster surface craft make a harder target.”
Oct 20th, 2010 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Without carriers there is no air superiority, without air superiority the fight is lost.
This has been proven time and time again.
There is currently no other type of ship than can dominate an area thousands of miles across.
You may be right Zethee, but it would appear that I am more in tune with Government thinking.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Zethe
Oct 20th, 2010 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0So can we say that we win the war without fighting?
When can we pass for Stanley with the paper to sign on?
:)
Between us as none will know, don't you feel a little bit ridiculous after your Military power show off? because you are worse than Argentina now.
hahaha
worse than Argentina now.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dont be silly Nicotine
40,000 troops and most of your attack aircraft mothballed? Yes we're definitely in a worst position than Argentina.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm tending to aire on the side of Hoy here, we have an air base able to accommodate 2 squadrons plus supporting facilities and Units which can be reinforced in under 18 hours, just over half the time it would take an invasion force from Argentina to cross the sea from the nearest port.
And lets not forget MI6 has slightly more than 1 field office now in Latin America, a military build up would not go unnoticed now :)
7 Rhaurie & others
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, we shall be very cautious not to be tempted by Mi6 agents and sepoys.
With an economy almost bankrupted, RN will need the more excuses that they could find in order not to be dismantled. The debates about defense cuts shows how the Argentina threat could be managed to seed fear in UK people...and obtain some extra-funds.
We will build up our military as our defense budget is astonishing low, so all the trend should be for at least double or triple the present budget.
It doesn´t mean that Galtieri is alive, just normality and recovery for 28 years of cuts.
We will build up our military as our defense budget is astonishing low, so all the trend should be for at least double or triple the present budget
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why? are you not great neighbours with your fellow SA countries
UK is rounded by fellow EU countries, why do you have been spending so much?
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The wishes of the Islanders are paramount.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the current Argentinian Government was serious about incorporating the Islands within their territory, then I would have thought that instead of constantly bullying and threatening these people they would be more friendly, welcoming and cooperative.
according to the Argies We have a empire to maintain,whats your excuse
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just levelling historic participation in budget for defensive of our territory and resource.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And compare percentage of GDP, before continue talking nonsenses!!!!
for defensive of our territory and resource.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That wouldnt include the Falkands by any chance?
Yeah and all around and thank to Mr. Gordo and Cameron.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We have not doubt...” well let's see when the sleeping elephant get pissed off.
And can you check my spelling please?
Thanks
I seem to recall Argies getting all excited, jingoistic and interpreting previous MOD spending reductions as a green light to launch an unprovoked attack on a peaceful, virtually undefended neighbour. That didn't end too well did it?
Oct 20th, 2010 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Joytred, Not even your queen and her family members escape the cuts. Are you going to miss the parties with Charles?
Oct 20th, 2010 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/spending-review/8075857/Spending-Review-2010-The-Queen-agrees-to-cut-total-Royal-Household-spending.html
“The British way of life will have to change, David Cameron will warn today as he readies the country for the biggest cuts in government spending since the Second World War.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/spending-review/8075857/Spending-Review-2010-The-Queen-agrees-to-cut-total-Royal-Household-spending.html
Please let us know when you wish to return the islands, this way I can put it on my calendar.
Please let us know when you wish to return the islands, this way I can put it on my calendar.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont be cheeky,or you wont get a bit of pie when your country goes down the pan again
Annual budget: £7.7bn
What's being cut: The overseas aid budget is to be protected from cuts but not the department's other costs. Budget to rise to £11.5bn over four years to meet UN aid commitment. Aid to China and Russia to stop and reduction in administration costs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2484061.stm
Is so quiet in MercoPress today, I guess the british are still in shocked with the news today.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all Marcos,we cant be that skint,still giving to the needy
Oct 20th, 2010 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Budget to rise to £11.5bn over four years to meet UN aid commitment.
How much does Argentina donate to overseas aid?
“How much does Argentina donate to overseas aid?”
Oct 20th, 2010 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0charity starts at home.
“You may be right Zethee, but it would appear that I am more in tune with Government thinking.”
? They've kept the carriers.
“'m tending to aire on the side of Hoy here, we have an air base able to accommodate 2 squadrons plus supporting facilities and Units which can be reinforced in under 18 hours”
very true, but what happens if argentina gets lucky and lands a rocket or bomb on that airfield? Or gets a spec ops team to motar it? No air support, no air troops.
A floating base is indespicable.
“ ... Please let us know when you wish to return the islands, this way I can put it on my calendar. ....”
Oct 20th, 2010 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My pleasure Morpuss - when hell freezes over :-)
Zethee - sort of and only due to contractual obligations and in the ones case, for a very limited period. As you know.
Hard to land a rocket on a sub :-)
Hey coitred, Read the comments on this article about the cuts that you are trying to minimize:
Oct 20th, 2010 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Blair and Brown killed this country!
Cameron and Clegg have just arranged our funeral!
- Val D, Telford, 20/10/2010 10:29”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321873/DEFENCE-REVIEW-Cameron-confirms-MoD-budget-slashed-8-cent.html
Please let us know when you wish to return the islands, this way I can put it on my calendar.
Won't be in your lifetime Morecrap .... nor your children's .... nor your children's children ....... etc, etc :-)
Oct 21st, 2010 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Coitred, Here is another interesting comment from that article above:
Oct 21st, 2010 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the cut to the armed forces don't go far enough, they should scrap the ark royal tomorrow and get rid of at least 30% of army personnel across all ranges if they really want to get to grips with the budget deficit.
- john span, london, 19/10/2010 9:32”
There is something that you love to say all the time...Get use to it :-)
I'm actually quite happy with the cuts .... they appear to have a few missiles on the islands and subs for the defence should Argentina ever get the balls again .... but as your military has almost no budget at all that seems unlikely :-)
Oct 21st, 2010 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Zethee - sort of and only due to contractual obligations and in the ones case, for a very limited period. As you know. ”
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, which is the silliest thing we could do. Theres a reason why the USN have 20 aircraft carriers.
Hey Morecrap ... maybe the time will come when we leave the islands to you after all :-)
Oct 21st, 2010 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101020091855.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News%29
“ ... they also find evidence that the rate of sea-level rise has accelerated over recent decades. Specifically, they estimate that sea levels around the Falkland Islands have risen by an average of around 2.5 millimetres a year since 1992, ....”
Hey Coitred...those are not the only islands “sinking” :-)
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6226537/England-is-sinking-while-Scotland-rises-above-sea-levels-according-to-new-study.html
Well that's it we have to turn the heating on to max.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argies may need our help
Oct 21st, 2010 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just add water :-)
http://personal.cricyt.edu.ar/rojeda/asner_etal_ea_2003.pdf
30 NicoDin Yes :-)
Oct 21st, 2010 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ ... The U.K.’s oversized place in world history makes it easy to forget how small an island the nation of 61 million actually is. It is home to less than 1 percent of the global population and accounts for barely 3 percent of the world’s output. Yet the review will leave Britain with the world’s fourth-largest military budget, behind only the U.S., China and Russia. That is the definition of a nation punching above its weight....”
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-21/hitler-s-nemesis-still-carries-a-big-stick-commentary-by-theodore-bromund.html
Wheras Argentina is merely a lightweight :-)
Interesting article coitred you posted above:
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The result was that, by 2010, Britain was close to becoming a second Greece”
WAS .... Morecrap ... WAS
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The result was that, by 2010, Britain was close to becoming a second Greece
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could have been worse second Argentina
IS...Coitred...IS
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.debtbombshell.com/
Britain was close to becoming a second Greece
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=8469
Greece does appear to be wealthier than Argentina !
Oct 23rd, 2010 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Like how the little island off Argentina seems to be a different colour to the rest
Oct 23rd, 2010 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GDP_nominal_per_capita_world_map_IMF_2009.png
Marcos Alejandro:
Oct 24th, 2010 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I once farted had a higher economy than argentina.
Zethee , At least we are not selling our forest
Oct 24th, 2010 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Ministers are planning a massive sell-off of Britain's Government-owned forests as they seek to save billions of pounds to help cut the deficit”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/countryside/8082756/Ministers-plan-huge-sell-off-of-Britains-forests.html
At least we are not selling our forest
Oct 24th, 2010 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes please
The controversial decision will pave the way for a huge expansion in the number of Center Parcs-style holiday villages, golf courses, adventure sites
http://www.centerparcs.co.uk/index.jsp?tc=02KW011100220&sissr=1
Marcos Alejandro:
Oct 24th, 2010 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet we are still richer than you. Fact.
Zethee,
Oct 24th, 2010 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So rich that you need to sell the whole forest in order to save the bankers and politicians. I rather be poor then.
I rather be poor then
Oct 25th, 2010 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just as well then :-)
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