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Malnutrition kills 206 children in six months in Argentine province

Monday, October 25th 2010 - 21:23 UTC
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A total of 206 children have died this year of malnutrition in the northern Argentina province of Misiones (bordering with Paraguay and Brazil), revealed Monday Governor Maurice Closs. Read full article

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  • briton

    this should never be allowed to happen, someone must pay for this crime .

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    falklands son argentina, I bloody well hope not

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    1 Briton
    If you were serious I should said that your right.

    As I assume that you are not pretending to be serious, just to escape of the Wikileaks abuses issue, we could agree to imprison our politicians with your political responsibles of invading, destroying and killing Iraq.

    You can ran the prison in the most remote island.

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Pheel Wikileaks abuses issue, you lost me here.. but yes i am serious
    nobody should let children starve to death, it does not matter where it is, we had this in the early 20th century before it was stamped out .

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    maybe the Argies will look after the Falklanders better, than the poor brown people in their own country

    http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/mar/assessment.asp?groupId=16002

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    perhaps in time the argetine people will mature enough to give peace a chance, and allow the falklands the right to live in peace,

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    THIMC

    MercoPress, in their eagerness to please their British readers has, again, been a little bit to “eager” and“optimistic” with their translation.

    As it can be read in the original article below, those 206 dead children represent the TOTAL child mortality by ALL CAUSES in the Misiones Province.

    And, as the Governor also says, it represents a 20% REDUCTION in child mortality since last year due to the implementation of two different social plans.

    http://www.yamisiones.com/?modulo=noticias&id=18549

    I have also mailed to MercoPress and ask them politely to “get a grip” of themselves and to correct this scandalous piece of trash journalism.

    El Think

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    I'm sure people at MercoPress are reading mine and my Argentine compatriots comments, and I can guess that's why this article. Sadly, my country receives thousands of immigrants from Bolivia, Peru, Paraguay, Brazil, Chile, Haiti, Dominican Rep. and countries like Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Liberia, etc etc etc. We can't give all these people what they really need, we are eager to, but it's not easy.

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Are you saying that these were imigrant familys, that have come to argentina .

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    7 Think

    Agree.
    It is the imperial expression of british “objectivity”, “neutrality” and “fair play”. Lucky I ve learnt suffering british referees at rugby: everything is fine until...“we the good guys are risking the match”...then...somehow a dubious penalty or a fishy article comes to surface.

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    briton #9
    What I'm saying is that even in a country like mine, it's almost imposible to give all our people everything they need with thousands of new people coming from different parts of the world everyday. It'd be good if people from other countries were given what they need by their own governments, but unfortunately that can't happen because they're poor. Human being moves to different areas since always and we don't put a stop to this because I think it's not the right thing to do. You can't stop people from moving to different countries in search of food.

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “As well as having the worst child mortality in Western Europe, globally the UK fell from 12th best in 1970 to 33rd best in 2010.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8696690.stm

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (10) Pheel

    I think, MercoPress has a severe problem with some “overzealous” personnel................ but that is their problem………

    What worries me is that somebody like you nearly accepted it as a fact!

    206 children dying of malnutrition, in little Misiones, in half a year ???

    Get real…. You may dislike the Kirchners.............. but this is not Biafra or Ethiopia.

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    I was not thinking on Ks, just on burocrats of any kind that I know, I help to Foodbanks Network and familiar with how easy is to finish hunger and malnutrition, just a matter of will and organization. Shame that is not 0 in this days!

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Hats off for you then......
    Doing something personally against the problem.......
    You are not soooo bad for a “right winger” :-)

    Oct 25th, 2010 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    But I “ate the trash-truck” of the title! :-)

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    Disgusting complacent apologists. Keep your damned hands off the Falkland Islands and its inhabitants.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Think 15

    I endorse this phrase from GK Chesterton a hundred years ago:
    “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.”
    :-)

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @12 Marcos Alejandro. How do you have the effrontery to compare this horrible situation in Argentina with infant mortality rates in the UK (amongst the lowest in the world)? Incidentally, I looked it up. The death rate of children in Argentina is at typical third world rates, nearly three times higher than in the UK, and on a par with Jamaica and Guiana. You must be very proud.

    http://bit.ly/cUBLRt

    I remember an Argentine 'patriot' on this very site quite recently bleating that Argentina could feed 500 million people. Seems you can knock another 206 little souls off that figure.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Alexei “is at typical third world ”...UK and also broke one.

    Malvinas Argentinas

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    The Falkand Islands and their people have never, do not and will never belong to argentina. Do you need another kicking, like you got in '82, to get that into your thick, child neglecting heads?

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    As it can be read in the original article below, those 206 dead children represent the TOTAL child mortality by ALL CAUSES in the Misiones Province

    Spin Think Spin

    Argentina world leader of child care (whatever the Cause)

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    THIMC

    Follow Up of this: “Piece of Journalism”

    I got a first answer from somebody (no name, no title) from MercoPress…..

    In short, they tell me that they see no reason to check on this “Story” send by their trusted journalist in Buenos Aires…..

    I include a link to today’s article in the biggest opposition newspaper in Argentina.
    http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/gobierno-Misiones-admite-chicos-desnutridos_0_360564043.html

    It clearly states that ther have been two (2) cases of children death by malnutrition in the province of Misiones in 2010.

    That’s, of course, two too many, but a far cry from the false information in this piece of “journalistic trash”.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    It must be comforting that not all the children starved to death

    @8
    Sadly, my country receives thousands of immigrants from Bolivia, Peru, Paraguay, Brazil, Chile, Haiti, Dominican Rep. and countries like Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Liberia, etc etc etc. We can't give all these people what they really need, we are eager to, but it's not easy.

    Department for International Development's budget will rise to £11.5 billion over the next four years. ... The government has defended aid on the grounds

    Dont harp on how in debt Britain is,thats a good boy

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Not just Mercopress reporting...
    Misiones Province Governor Maurice Closs announced that more than 200 children have died thus far this year in the province due to malnutrition, but defended the “Zero Hunger” administrative project that, he said, has allowed for a 20-percent reduction rate in these types of deaths.

    “In the 90's, 33 out of 1000 children died as a result of malnutrition. In 2009, 329 children died and this year, 206 deaths were registered,” said Closs.

    BTW Misiones is HORRIBLE! Dirty dirty children running around begging with no shoes, dirt/mud roads in the towns, gross, gross , gross...
    and I only saw Argentinian kids begging no one from other countries.
    I also went to an Indian Reservation there it had 1 string of lights, a mud pathway, and the school was paid by the Germans because the Argentinians wouldn't do it.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @Xbarilox (11)

    I've read it many times on here what an argicultural powerhouse Argentina is, 'breadbasket of South America' 'feeds 500 million people' etc, are you telling me you cannot prevent immigrants from starving to death?

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    I see Argentine damage control has been deployed in full force :) rather than try to explain their own failings its full speed ahead with the “UK is in debt......”

    Marcos did you read the figures? Argentina child mortality rate: 12%, UK: 5%

    Unfortunate I know, but we have a rather inefficient health service combined with excessive amounts of idiots with health problems such as alcoholism, smoking, obesity etc etc, who otherwise would have died off years ago before giving birth.

    interesting Think says this is journalistic trash, and then posts an article which states that in 2009 329 died and that in 6 months up until September 206 died!

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Nice photo on this article, doesn't look like Governor Closs has been short of a meal or two.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    xbox, “Thousands of people from LIBERIA and SUDAN”. Are you kidding have you ever been to Buenos Aires? Is the government keeping these people on a camp somewhere because in the 5 years I lived in BA I only saw 2 black people, the same 2 selling jewelry on the street. It is not like Argentina is racially diverse it is pretty easy to see the black people.

    You would think if you are trying to spin a bad story you would at least try to make it sound legitimate... geesh

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Hungry child is a shame.

    Think explained fairly why the title is not true.
    Continue lying about false statistics, it´s a shame too.
    Just speaks about your intellectual honesty and feelings.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Another little story I can share, a few years ago one of the Mayors in Misiones had a little problem with distribution of the government handouts.
    In Argentina the Federal Government transfers the $ for the poor to the Governor, he takes a cut, then it goes a few more levels down with each level take a cut because it is all delivered in CASH!
    When it finally got to the local Mayor (or whatever they call them) the guy used his to buy a few Mercedes, Farms, trucks etc. These are pretty small towns and the people saw all this new stuff so...they burned down the city hall, his house, trashed the cars and tried to kill him. That's Argentina, all while people starve!

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • norhagan

    I thought Argentina is a rich country and died in malnutrition is commonly heard in African country only, but why also in South American country...is it a political cause? Corruption is the product of politics...

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    fredbdc , Fred, What were you doing there in the first place? Sex tourism with under age boys and girls perhaps?
    Filthy pig you don't give a f.... about poor children not even in your own country.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Do you have underage protitutes in Argentina? I bet so, that seems like something that is probably a big business there. This may surprise you but we don't have children begging in streets and restaurants in the USA. We don't even have people collecting carboard! Gasp! Can you believe it?

    Ever hear of Iguazu? It is supposed to be something tourists see although my mistake was leaving the resort. That is always the mistake when you go to 3rd world countries, nice to see the nature but horrible to be around the locals.

    Seriously tell me how much cardboard do you have to collect to spend so much time in the locutorio?

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Fred, I visited your country and believe me I've seen with my own eyes hundreds of people, kids to 80 year old woman, going thru the filthy garbage cans getting cans, cardboard, plastic bottles, old newspaper, glass and more . Not to mention all the kids asking for money at gas stations of South central LA, New York and your Beloved DC suburbs.

    “Surviving on Cardboard”
    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=80f6bc131d1dc38a901fc362aa0b68a0

    “37 million poor hidden in the land of plenty”
    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=80f6bc131d1dc38a901fc362aa0b68a0

    “”I'm sick and tired of having to beg for change to eat,“ she said. ”I don't want this life anymore.“
    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=80f6bc131d1dc38a901fc362aa0b68a0

    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=80f6bc131d1dc38a901fc362aa0b68a0

    ”Most people think this only happens in other countries when in fact early statistics show more than 400,000 child prostitutes are in the U.S. alone, over 800,000 in the world.”

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Funny I have lived in major US cities my whole life and have NEVER seen that, and I lived in BA and saw it EVERYDAY EVERYWHERE. I wonder which one of us is lying?
    BTW did you look at the names of the people interviewed in the first article, is he an Argentinian living in Chicago? Your sources of information are pretty questionable too. Looks like they are charities looking for donations to me. Wouldn't you think the articles are a bit skewed and for gosh sakes the gaurdian that's a bastion of reliable news isn't it? Why don't you show me some stories from the National Enquirer.?

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Fred,“Funny I have lived in major US cities my whole life and have NEVER seen that”
    Well not only you are bald but also a blind liar.

    “But it also defended itself, saying that shutting down that category won't necessarily curb child trafficking and sex crimes.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/09/craigslist_says_no_plans_to_re.html

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/09/craigslist_says_no_plans_to_re.html

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    You have an advantage over me since you cyber stalked me, but I am pretty sure you look like a morochito cartenero. And you still have not told me how much cardboard this is costing you!
    Yes we have homeless and prostitutes here, most of the homeless I have seen are insane people who won't let the system help them . The prostitutes are usually drug addicts or Latin Americans . I guess those are the ones that are not good maids and are not smart enough to do anything else, don't know really. Have you thought about it for yourself? It is probably better than digging through garbage every night.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    ”Most people think this only happens in other countries when in fact early statistics show more than 400,000 child prostitutes are in the U.S. alone, over 800,000 in the world.” Did you read the article above racist baldy?

    May I also suggest this site for you?
    http://www.bosleyconsultation.com/04/

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    As I said in the last message, that is a charity trying to help child prostitutes and I would find it pretty hard to believe that the USA has 1/2 of the worlds population of them.

    Try here http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/prostitution.html I would guess that site is a little more believable but not wholly accurate.

    But I am wondering what is your point? What does the USA prostitution rate have to do with anything?

    What is your facebook profile? There must be 100K Marcos Alejandros cutting laws and cleaning pools here in the US. It would be hard for me to cyber stalk you like you did me.
    Do they let you in clubs and restaurants in your country? I know they didn't let morochos in the places I went the security just pushed them right out. It was nice.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    cyber stalk you? Why would I waste my time doing that. My point is that when I visited your country I was expecting to be something like the Jetsons with flying cars and a modern country however to my surprise your cities were filthy full of homeless people using the sidewalks as bathrooms and people picking cardboard and bottles to survive.
    About my facebook page try Marcos Alejandro Kissmybutt.

    Oct 26th, 2010 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    I am not sure why you would waste your time but you, Think and Xbox did a few weeks back.
    No wonder you were disappointed even here we don't have flying cars! I am pretty sure you didn't see that in the USA this isn't Argentina by a long shot. We have to pay to have our bottles and cardboard taken away it is not worth anything. That is your country you are describing are you sure you weren't in Buenos Aires? Maybe you just thought is was the USA because it is a such long way from Paraguay?

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    This poor morocho Argentinian, as you describe it, traveled from Patagonia to Anchorage and in beteween many of your falling apart cities. I had to admit that I like your National Parks.“We have to pay to have our bottles and cardboard taken away” not true, many people pick cardboard and bottles from trash cans to sell it at recycle centers to survive in US like many in Argentina. Do you need the adress of these hundreds of centers in DC? I am sure you went to one baldy.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I am sure you went to one baldy.

    Jees Marcos's debating skills just moved up a gear

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Yeah if there are 100s send me 20 links in DC to show me where they are paying for cardboard and bottles because I know my building pays a lot of $ to get rid of bottles, cans and paper. Methinks you are a bit of a liar morochito I know you have never been here, how did you get the visa? And I KNEW you knew about trash. In the end I can always peg them.

    City trash does it for free for hoses but bldgs have to pay to haul it away...

    http://dpw.dc.gov/DC/DPW/Education+and+Outreach/Brochures+and+Fact+Sheets/Recycling+Made+Easy

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Instead of publishing this ambiguous (?) article, Mercopress should have published some tribute to Linda Norgrove on the International section.

    We have a pair of Lindas at a Foodbank NGO here and are the most constant and dedicated volunteers.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Instead of publishing this ambiguous article

    Try putting your fingers in your ears shut your eyes and humm,it might go away

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Nestor is dead! If I was Cristina I would be packing my bags and heading to Miami just about now. Is everyone dancing in the streets in BA?

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    No, stinky, wrong person: in my city malnutrition is zero thanks to gov+ngos...and a pair of brits volunteers that witness that not every brit is an asshole as you.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    48 fredbdc , If I was you, I would be packing my bags and heading to Mars. That is the only place that you can hide your stupid face, asshole.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Something that bothers me about the entire Missiones malnutrition problem is that a recent newspaper article stated that there were 6,000 children with malnutrition, while Missiones congressmen had the highest salaries in the Argentina provinces.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    in my city malnutrition is zero

    Pull up the ladder jack :-)

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “in my city malnutrition is zero”

    Really Pheel? where do you live? any city that has any MacDonalds, KFC etc will NOT have zero malnutrition.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Marcos, that is a great come back, congratulations on your brilliance!
    Please post the DC recycling links at your earliest convenience. Thanks!

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    West,
    talking about children not having access to what they need to develop.
    With focus in babies and toddlers, time when they develop neural system.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Yes I know Pheel, that ws an ironical reference to the proliferation of American junk food outlets in nations that purport to be above all that.

    Seriously though, you say that malnutrition is zero because of “gov+ngos...and a pair of brits volunteers”, why is this necessary? Argentina MUST be able to produce surplus food (I refer back to my question #26), so what's the problem?

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Argentina produces surplus food.
    I understand where you are pointing to, and yes, we need to evolve and take full advantage of it. That´s what I fight for, mainly against wrong ideologies that have already shown in many bread-basket countries (Ukraine, Zimbabwe, etc) how unefficient they could be.
    Lucky to be in a city that everybody mostly understands that.
    The group of british volunteers feel argentinas with more than 30 years here and they have an admirable resilience and devotion.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “Please post the Washington DC recycling links at your earliest convenience”
    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    “This study reveals a 25 percent increase in Washington metro area residents needing emergency food assistance.”

    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    Facts on Hunger in D.C
    “One in eight District households is struggling against hunger”
    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    “It starts with knowing that we really can end this persistent social challenge -- in the District of Columbia, and around the country”
    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA

    http://search.earth911.com/?what=Cardboard&where=Alexandria,%20VA
    Over seventeen million children in America face hunger and food insecurity. ... Share Our Strength 1730 M Street NW, Suite 700, Washington, DC 20036 USA ...

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Marcos, you are a little retarded, right?
    None of those places are in DC and none of them pay you to take cardboard and bottles. Those are places you can drop them off if you want. We do encourage recycling in the USA and in some places, like DC, it is mandatory and if we don't we get fined. Give me your email address and I will send you our recycling bill if you still don't believe me. If you want some of our cardboard, bottles or cans come here and you can have all you want! You can be rich as an Argentine!
    Again, I never said we don't have poor people that is how a free market works. Some on the Top some on the Bottom most is the middle. It is a great system! Too bad your horrible country doesn't adopt it. Maybe they will once the Harpy is living in Miami or Caracas.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I tend to agree with fredbdc,Marcos is not firing on all cylinders,not if he thinks Yanks are starving

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

    the Uk aint far behind mind

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “I tend to agree with fredbdc,Marcos is not firing on all cylinders,not if he thinks Yanks are starving”

    I understand some of them do starve......for a while anyway until they slim down enough to get through the double doors of McDonalds again.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “it is mandatory and if we don't we get fined”

    It's a good idea to be honest, We're going to be starting the same sort of system in london next year, but most people seem to do it anyway.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Oh Marcos, my mistake there were 2 from DC did you read the descriptions:
    Consolidated Waste Industries

    Services are restricted to residents of District Of Columbia County only.

    Please call Monday to Friday from 7am to 3:30pm or Saturday 7am to 1pm to set up an account.

    Which mean you have to PAY to leave your recycling there. They don't pay you. So my invitation stands, come to my building and I will give you all the cardboard, bottles and cans you want! You can be rich! Rich as an Argentine! Hahahaaha

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Not only you can cash your bottles, can , and cardboard but also some people take them to others states that pay better.

    “Smugglers are bleeding our taxpayers one can and one bottle at a time,” said Michigan Rep. Steven Bieda, who's sponsoring state legislation to clamp down on illegal returns

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-26-3225980560_x.htm

    I have to admit they are better organized...many steal market shopping carts in order to wheel their recycables goods to cash them at those many centers. I took some good pictures of these US citizens lined up to cash their“goods”.

    Stick, You are right, not only there are millions of poor people in that country but also many large individuals that make you feel that Sumo is American not Japanese.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 05:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Marcos intellect is clearly malnourished.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Oh you are talking about return bottles, in some states they charge $.05 or .10 tax for a bottle/can when you buy it and then you get the money back when you return them. People still throw them out though. Only a few states do that and none around here. Believe me when I tell you it is just garbage here, we don't get paid for it. Come and get them and you can have all you want.

    Why are you so jealous? Did we deport you? Do you miss all the tranny prostitutes working in Palermo? You know one of your biggest exports is prostitutes, Charlie Sheen was just caught with one in NYC. I guess that is better than cleaning houses or pool like the rest of the Argentinians do here.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Freddo, you are sick.
    What your write just talk about your personal misery.
    Try a shrink.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    This is cheaper and more fun to bother people here! My personal misery? Sorry to disappoint you I am very happy now that I am back in the USA and not living in that filthy corrupt place you call home.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Your answer is an accurate description of the official US attitude towards 5 billion people.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    Think, any chance You can provide me with your address so I can send you a letter with the same sentiment you had in your letter to Meropress?

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Freddo, Your comments show your ignorance. No wonder you like Sarah Palin and Fox News.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Are you cyber stalking me again? How sweet! Why don't you go ahead and friend me. I am sure we would get along famously! Have fun in Palermo Woods this weekend!

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    #68, “This is cheaper and more fun to bother people here!” :-)

    Oct 30th, 2010 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Freddo 72,
    some reading for the happy weekend outside filthy places:
    http://kiosko.net/uk/np/economist.html
    Rebellion at the paradise?

    Oct 30th, 2010 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Yes there is a rebellion in the USA, we do have the vote here and it is legal to assemble so I am not sure what you point is?
    We are rejecting the Socialist/Marxist agenda Obama has been trying to shove down our throats. It looks like we will have a huge swing in Congress, maybe pick up the Senate then shut him down for good! Thank goodness, and lesson learned, that will be the last time a Socialist gets elected in my lifetime!
    It is still clean and well organized here though thanks for asking!
    Have they started picking up the garbage in BA yet? Marcos must be in heaven with so many bags to search through for cardboard and cans!

    Oct 30th, 2010 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Good job Mr Obama, free health care for all including for local cartoneros! Mr Obama keep kicking Fox News crowd butt!
    Regardless what happen in this congressional elections he will stay in office for a loooong time.

    These are some of the Republicans intellectuals that Freddo likes:
    I am not a witch...LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOazy-R3fHw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOazy-R3fHw

    Oct 30th, 2010 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Marcos, It may surprise you to learn that our Presidents are limited to two consecutive terms in office! It is not like in most Latin America (Banana Republics) where the sitting President can stay as long as they want. Wow! Can you believe it!
    Seriously do you want me to start saving the cardboard and cans from my building? You have to promise to pick them up 1x week though. Can you get the visa to do it?

    Oct 30th, 2010 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    If you know how to count, most likely Mr Obama will serve 6 more years. Save your cardboard and cans you might need need it, real state will take many years to recover in your country. Do you need a job? You can clean my pool once a week if you wish.

    Don't forget to vote for your “friends”next week:

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Black-Gay-and-Republican-104388114.html

    Oct 31st, 2010 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Oh for that I only need to count to two. There are rumors Hillary is going to resign shortly and run against him. If that is the case he is DONE!

    Marcos, I have a job that I love, thanks for the offer but I am a little too white to be cleaning pools. That's a job for morochos as you well know.

    FYI I already voted and it was straight Republican with two write ins.

    Did you do well working in Rosedal this weekend? I swear I will drive by and say Hi in Jan while I am there visiting my s/o's family. It would be fun to get to know you.

    Oct 31st, 2010 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “ thanks for the offer but I am a little too white to be cleaning pools”
    Not really, remember you are a red neck and a Redskin fan.

    Oct 31st, 2010 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Since I grew up in a city it would be pretty hard for me to be a redneck although they are usually good solid patriotic folks so it is not much of a slam for me.
    Redskins fan, I think not, I don't watch football last time I was at a football game I was 9 or 10. Do you even know what American Football is? Kinda doubt it since they don't show it or play it in South America. It is a very tough game, the players don't cry when they lose, not like the Argentinian soccer team, they are real men. Your team plays like your country everyone always expects it to do well but in the end they can only win by cheating.

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “Since I grew up in a city ...full of rednecks like me”

    “Do you even know what American Football is?”
    A little...

    http://www.finkorswim.com/2009/11/17/nfl-football-game-of-wimps-and-crybabies/

    http://www.finkorswim.com/2009/11/17/nfl-football-game-of-wimps-and-crybabies/

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    But those are making the paper, your incidents of players crying is at the end of every game or when they fall down screaming because someone accidentally touched their arm so it doesn't make the news because it is expected. So not really a very good comparison try again. American football payers are tough! Not like wimpy tiny Argentinian players. Don't even try to compare them, our guys out muscle yours by 150lbs... kind of just like our country.
    And wasn't' the hand of god” the only way you won a World Cup? Then you deify the cheater, drug addict pig! That's a hero!

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    'our guys out muscle yours by 150lbs...of fat”

    NFL Should it be called the National Fat League

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-03-06-football-fat-usat_x.htm

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-03-06-football-fat-usat_x.htm

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Well Maradona isn't exactly thin even with his last operation. Argentina's only hero is a disgusting fat drug addict with no education who is also a tax cheat. Ahh just like the rest of your country.

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Rugby, that's the game. No histrionics and prima donnas like in soccer and no fat boys in padded armour and donut breaks every 2 minutes like in American football.
    ;o)

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I reckon Marcos likes to Tango with his che

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eomGV4buJzM&feature=related

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Freddo, The world's largest drug consumer is US.

    WestisBest “fat boys in padded armour and donut breaks every 2 minutes like in American football”. I agree.

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Not by a long shot...

    http://www.google.com/search?q=per+capita+drug+consumption&hl=en

    And no drug addict tax cheat pig is our national hero...

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Freddo, About drugs...
    NFL, National Fat League, best moments:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfZx4ynazpI

    “Homeless heroin addicts in big cities, ”meth heads“ in Midwest trailer parks, pop culture and sports stars, teens smoking marijuana with their Baby Boomer parents in Vermont — in all, 46 percent of Americans 12 and older have indulged in the often destructive national pastime of illicit drug use”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfZx4ynazpI

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    http://www.argentinaindependent.com/feature/paco-drug-epidemic-sweeping-the-streets-of-argentina-/

    http://www.argentinaindependent.com/feature/paco-drug-epidemic-sweeping-the-streets-of-argentina-/

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Marcos, what is your point? Do you think there is more drug use than in Argentina? Maybe, who cares? We have more money to spend on recreational drugs so what? Lots of people do drugs here, does it mean we are unproductive? Nope. Does it mean we are not creative? Nope. So where are you going with this?

    My point was, you have made an uneducated fat drug addicted socialist crook your superstar hero, but he is a good representation of the value and morals of your countrymen so I see how it happened. Don't you agree?

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “We have more money to spend on recreational drugs so what? Lots of people do drugs here?”

    You are a hypocrite, first you brought it up and now basically you are saying that they are “recreational drugs”. The use of this drugs is illegal and I can see that you are a user. I hope you and your friends enjoyed it because you are responsible of the dead of tens of thousands of your neighbors south of your border thanks to the money flowing from american users to drug cartel traffickers.
    He is not a good representation of the value and morals of my country nor you are from yours (fat and addict)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39812764/ns/world_news-americas/

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    I never brought up per capita drug use you did nor am I a hypocrite. I only brought up the most famous living Argentinian as an example of how screwed up your country is. When you can deify a creature like that I believe your country is beyond redemption. He should have been turned over to the Italians for prosecution for tax evasion long ago.

    Mexico and just about every country south of our boarder has been ungovernable and corrupt since its inception. It has nothing to do with the United States. The drug trade is just the latest example of the inherent corruption in Latin America. Argentina is now a huge gateway for cocaine to Europe, but you know what, you were corrupt and ungovernable BEFORE there was a gateway. The crooks go to places where it is easy to bribe officials to look the other way. If there wasn't corruption to begin with there wouldn't be such a huge drug trade. Dimwit.

    Nov 01st, 2010 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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