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UK promises stronger and closer relationship with Overseas Territories
A wide range of issues of mutual interest and concern were addressed by the UK Minister for the Overseas Territories Henry Bellingham and leaders from the Overseas Territories. The OTs Consultative Council is currently meeting in London. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt is beyond my understanding how the inhabitants of these OTs rely on their former ties to a shattered empire instead of seeking their own independence.
Nov 18th, 2010 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Slavery is indeed a state of mind.
It is beyond my understanding how the inhabitants of South America rely on a European based culture, language, judicial and political system, the remnants of a shattered empire, rather than seek their own unique political, linguistic and judicial systems.
Nov 18th, 2010 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Slavery is indeed a state of mind.
For one yaghan. If the falklands were independant in 1982, no-one would have came to save them and they now would be slaves to your country.
Nov 18th, 2010 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a nice safety net for them.
seeking their own independence
Nov 18th, 2010 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure the Falkland Islanders would love to be Independant,but for there bully neighbour
#2:
Nov 18th, 2010 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is quite easy to understand that. Europe used the following formula:
1. Locate all places with suitable natural resources or of strategic value.
2. Invade and eradicate native population using military or economic power.
3. Establish colonies with europeans of your same cultural values and beliefs. Discredit native culture and religion.
4. Transfer economic wealth to Europe.
Will traditions remain in this way? Quite improbable.
And what is the native Falkland Island culture and religion?
Nov 18th, 2010 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One day all those people will be free.
Nov 18th, 2010 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One day all those people will be free
Nov 18th, 2010 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot this xbox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uS5xPWfxPY&feature=related
“One day all those people will be free.”
Nov 18th, 2010 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, if only Argentina gets its way those poor people will be free to live under the imposed rule of a nation they do not want to be.
@ 5 You're quite right, yaghan. That's what the Spanish and the Portuguese did. That is your heritage. Bet you're proud.
Nov 18th, 2010 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 7 But you see, xbox, they are free. They are free to govern themselves, free to make the decisions that are right for them, free of Argentine neo-imperialist colonialism. And Britain will see that it stays that way -- unless the Islanders choose a different future. But I'll bet any future they choose will not include a bunch of greasy, slimy dagos.
What Xbox, like these people, will they be free one day from Argentine government oppression?
Nov 18th, 2010 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTDYMieF0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTDYMieF0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTDYMieF0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTDYMieF0k
By your own admission, this is how you treat the native people of what is now Argentina - you know, the people who's land you stole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTDYMieF0k
And so much for the reforms to the constitution of 94 she mentions because that document is still racist. Just read article 25!
“Transfer economic wealth to Europe.”
Nov 18th, 2010 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really believe that's what we're doing in the Falklands do you? you clowns really do have no idea how an overseas territory works.
“And what is the native Falkland Island culture and religion?”
Nov 19th, 2010 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's mainly to do with fish, and outbreeding the other kings, gentoos, macaronis and southern rockhoppers.
Free the penguins from colonial oppression!
Nov 19th, 2010 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;-)
# 10 : You mean the Spanish and the Portuguese as opposed to other european countries? You're quite wrong. Who are you, John Stuart Mills?
Nov 19th, 2010 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least, the Spanish and the Portuguese practised miscegenation. What about you?
#12: May I discuss two subjects with you:
1) Your posting is the result of assumptions. No one was talking about the Islands themselves.
2) That ignorance you are accusing us of comes from the fact that we lack overseas territories. By definition, only imperialistic nations owe such territories and Argentina does not, probably due to the fact that it has never been an empire, contrary to what many of you posted here and elsewhere.
Your use of derogatory languague is controversial and uncalled for.
Oh well, cheer up Yaghan; if you ever get your sticky mitts on the Falklands you'll have a colony all of your own and you can be an imperialist nation as well ;-)
Nov 19th, 2010 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“At least, the Spanish and the Portuguese practised miscegenation. What about you?”
Nov 19th, 2010 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Erm, not officially encouraged though, I refer you to the still current, and blatantly racist, Article 25 of the 1994 Argentine constitution.
And if you think the British didn't mix it up with the locals in their various colonies you are very much mistaken. I should know, as I am myself the descendant of exactly such a union.
“That ignorance you are accusing us of comes from the fact that we lack overseas territories.”
Nov 19th, 2010 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's no excuse, yaghan. I don't own a Ferrari (more's the pity) but that doesn't mean I know nothing about them.
If there was a subject that was pertinant to me that I knew nothing about I'd educate myself, you appear to be proud of your ignorance about what an overseas territory actually is, instead of finding out you prefer merely to apply an outdated and innapropraite term like 'colony' to them.
Argentinian bloggers are just throwing shit to the wind again,
Nov 19th, 2010 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they know they cant have the falklands, so slag everyone else of.
This then is the newest and futuristic R/N ship [enjoy]
..........
Today in a grand ceremony at Portsmouth dockyard HMS Indefensible was commissioned into the Royal Navy. Described as the most stealthy warship in the world, she is now the only vessel in the Royal Navy and replaces 2 mothballed aircraft carriers, 6 destroyers and 4 submarines. Responding to criticism about the shrinking fleet, the MoD replied ”It's not about numbers, it's about quality not quantity. HMS Indefensible represents a revolution in naval procurement, stealthy, light and agile she will provide a highly flexible platform. She is invisible to radar and almost immune to torpedo or missile attack. Her shallow draft makes her ideal for work in the littoral (coastal) areas. She is also highly efficient with virtually zero carbon emissions and zero fuel consumption
http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/articles/2008/12/vision-of-future.html,,,, A british sense of humour??
@15. Are you attempting sophistry? Don't bother. You're not up to it. There's no evidence that proper people (i.e. British) had any difficulty in shagging Spanish whores (i.e. Spanish females). Not surprising really considering that most Spanish males (can't call them men) were and are self-important, boastful, incapable relics.
Nov 20th, 2010 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That ignorance you are accusing us of comes from the fact that we lack overseas territories. By definition, only imperialistic nations owe such territories and Argentina does not, probably due to the fact that it has never been an empire, contrary to what many of you posted here and elsewhere.”
Nov 20th, 2010 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trying to acuire overseas territorys is imperialistic.
Falklands would be an overseas territory if Argentina was to aquire it.
Which of course she never will
Nov 20th, 2010 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chagos Case: The UK's double moral by John Pilger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Zlr_4xYh0
Nov 21st, 2010 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Zlr_4xYh0
You'll have to find an english version, as you know we don't use inferior languages over here.
Nov 21st, 2010 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee you have completely lost your touch haha Weak man, stop peeing your pants.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Takes one to know one ???????
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Zethee you have completely lost your touch haha Weak man, stop peeing your pants.”
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was joking, lol.
super glue,for stronger and closer relationship with Overseas Territories
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0long may the islands remain british.
23 Also Argentina's moral dilmena.
Nov 23rd, 2010 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I fail why Argentine s quote this scenario over and over again.
the conclusions reached state that:
1. Argentines are ardent supporters of self-determination and where horrified at this act. Or
2. Argentines were largely supportive of this move because it shows that self-determination is not applicable in any circumstances.
However 1 is contradicted by 2, because Argentine's do not believe in Self-determination for the islanders and have made it very clear that ethnic cleansing of the islands with multi million pound compensation is acceptable.
But 2 is contradicted by 1, if Argentines did not believe in self-determination then why would they use this example? And claim it is a moral dilemna.
It seems to me many in Argentina see Diego Garcia as a blue print for what they intend on the islands.
Malvinism a political discourse of many contradictions.
“Malvinism a political discourse of many contradictions.”
Nov 23rd, 2010 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Always a problem when one tries to justify the unjustifiable.
I've never understood why the Argentines keep wheeling this one out.
Nov 25th, 2010 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you all saying that the Chagossians have no rights, being an 'implanted population'? Are you also saying that Britain had the right to do whatever it wanted with them, regardless of their wishes?
Seems to me that you think that Britain was wrong to do what it did in Diego Garcia (and I completely agree). But for some reason, which you don't explain, it would be fine for something similar to happen to us.
Can you explain?
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