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Brazil recognizes Argentine sovereignty over South Georgia and South Sandwich islands

Sunday, November 21st 2010 - 21:03 UTC
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Brazil has always recognized Argentine sovereignty over the Falkland/Malvinas Islands but was reluctant to include South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands however that is over, according to a top official from the Argentine Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Trade. Read full article

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  • AndrewG

    So...

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Yet another little nail on Britain's diplomatic coffin on the South Atlantic.......

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    Andrew says so... I say oops! Step by step, peacefully, with words, without using any violence.

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Yet another little nail on Britain's diplomatic coffin on the South Atlantic

    You Argies, tend to hit your thumbs when trying to nail the UK

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “Yet another little nail on Britain's diplomatic coffin on the South Atlantic”

    You actually believe that...? lol.

    A nation who already agrees with you, agrees with you more.

    OH NOES!

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    I'm surprise it took this long for the Argies to triumphalise what Lula said some time ago. But, in a way we should not be surprised as their pack of cards to play diminishes as each day passes now that Nestor is not longer wrestling the helm! And I wonder if, when major oil and gas reserves are sourced offshore the Falklands, if the Brazilians will still be talking up the Argie position... somehow I doubt it!

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (1) AndrewG

    So...ft and gently.
    She (Britain) will perhaps not even feel it.

    So...ft and gently.
    She (Britain) may even like it.

    So...ft and gently.
    She (Britain) will surely lose her vi...gilance.

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Can't feel or dislike something if it never happens.

    You clearly are a head case.

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    We recognize your soverignty but are happy to take payment for the docking of the Royal Navy and also the ships and rig involved in the Falklands oil exploration. Hey Think! Actions speak louder than words my friend and words is all Argentina offer and gets back in return.

    Don't you just live capitalism?

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    If it was a statement by a “top official from the Brazilian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Trade” I might believe it was true, but it's not, so I don't.

    More Argentine global warming.

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Malvinas for ever in my heart.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDgO6NIXe0A

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    Malvinas for ever in my heart.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDgO6NIXe0A

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Malvinas for ever in my heart ????????and it will die with you ??
    the only reason I can see why you guys are cheering your great victory [nothing] is because the British are sitting bye and letting you sprout on like fools, and any man with half a brain would wonder why , why should she sit and say nothing, whilst you look for non existent friends, perhaps Argentina thinks Britain is scared, not got the guts perhaps ?
    lost the will to fight, perhaps, haven’t got the military might to get there, or fight there, perhaps you think Britain has lost her bottle,
    BUT there’s only one way to find out , is there not ? [see you soon then]
    or will we just hear you from a distant, [you have never had a better chance] ?????????????????

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Malvinas for ever in my heart, and that feeling will die with me.

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Malvinense 1833 a man who loves peace.
    and Austin powers will oblige, [peace on earth]

    Nov 21st, 2010 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    It may be in your heart, but it's not in your territory ;-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Lula da Silva of Brazil “Our attitude is one of solidarity with Argentina,” Mr Lula said. “What is the geographical, political and economic explanation for England to be in the Malvinas? What is the explanation for the United Nations never having that decision?

    “Could it be because the UK is a permanent member of the UN’s Security Council where they can do everything and the others nothing? It is not possible that Argentina is not the owner while England is, despite being 14,000km away.”

    Ambassador Alberto D’Alotto, head of the Foreign Affairs ,“during many years Brazil’s Foreign Affairs ministry did not recognize our sovereignty over the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, but did so regarding the Malvinas”

    BRAZIL...BRAZIL...BRAZIL...
    Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands Argentinas!

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Zethee!!!, why you want to hurt my heart?

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Brazil is but one country, south America has many,
    but it still has not got you wat you realy want,
    perhaps you have the wrong friends ?

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    The power of words, the power of peace, above all things.

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    What friends does UK have in this matter?
    None, zero, nada, niente

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ah, there you go again
    argentina has all the friends, and Britain has none
    britain has the falklands, and the argies have none
    xbarilox (#)
    The power of words, the power of peace
    A man got of a plane and said [peace in our time]
    and look what happend next, powerfull words, plenty of action,
    was he a fool ?????????

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Anything in wriring? Brazil doesn't like to put things into writing .... just in case a change of tack is required later :-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ROGGER

    War ...now that we brazilians joint our brothers argentinians (soccer loosers) we shall declare war against britain and get rid of the f'cker once and for all
    warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    ” ... during a recent meeting in San Juan province (Mercosur latest presidential summit, August 2010), President Lula da Silva recognized before President Cristina Fernandez Argentine sovereignty over those islands....”.

    A senior Argentine politician appears to be the only source of this story ...... not much of a story then :-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • América

    Not just Brazil, ALL of latin America and China support Argentina. Those islands belong to Argentina. Personally, I say screw diplomacy, WAR is the only way. England is also in Gibraltar and Antartica.

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Funny that a bunch of Argentine muppets are now calling for war. Let us remember what happened last time Argentina decided to take the military option.

    However, if you really want a War then go ahead and show your hand. You will find that the UK will be happy to oblige as war and fighting has been a part of the UK since the days of Vikings, Saxons, Normas and Romans (not in that order obviously).

    Somehow I don't think your leaders will want to be responsible for a humiliating defeat (again).

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (27) Mr. Beef…

    As usual, a significant part of you “Thinks” right, but………………….

    As this article and the other one about those 26 submarines proves, Brazil is fast becoming one of the most important pieces of the Argentinean South-Atlantic policy.

    Brazils very realistic concern about their oilfields is becoming quite a fixation and the Malvinas situation is increasingly used as a “bad example” in their defence and interior ministries.

    Let’s see how welcome those Royal Navy “provoker” ships and “buccaneer” British oil rigs are in their harbors next time…..

    As it also can read elsewhere, we seem to be doing some nice progress on the East South-Atlantic diplomatic front too.
    I didn’t know so much about that until yesterday……

    Amandla sister Sisulu :-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Think. So you are alleging that Brazil is building it's military capacity so it can attack the UK and help Argentina invade the islands? All this after signing (yes something actually binding) a defense agreement with the UK.

    BTW ships going to and from the Islands are still passing through Brazil and this includes those with kit for the oil exploration.

    Believe me if you think Brazil gives a toss about the islands then why have you been unable to gain anything but a “guesture of support”. He who pays the piper calls the tune and Brazil is more interested in it's own interests than Argentinas. EU trade agreement anyone?

    In reality Think it is time for Argentina to start to implement sone pragmatic policy. You are bright enough to see that.

    Remember the Islands don't need Argentina and in terms of oil exploration and production technology is in place that would remove you from the equation. Time to put up or shut up. In terms of real support regarding the islands you are in fact all at sea.

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Mercopress is the only english news service that I can find circulating this story ... ?? So is it really news ??

    “ .... the East South-Atlantic diplomatic front ....”

    You can't mean South Africa? :-) Silly boy Think lol

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    South Africa - buy ferrochrome (IFL) big potential over next 24 months as demand for stainless steel increases!

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (29) and (31) Ay Ay Ay …..Mr. Beef…

    Why do you always insist of mis-interpreting me?

    Brazil’s problem is not wit the UK….., It is with the USA… You know that!
    But they are using Malvinas iternally to further their Agenda, just as the British MoD does.
    This is good for us.

    Brazil’s seemingly real oil adventure is “vacuum cleaning” the market for equipment, personnel and investment on the Area.
    This is good for us.

    And I can see by your repeated comments that you are trying hard to convince yourself and others about that outdated South-American caricaturesque picture so many of you Anglos still believe in.

    Mr. Beef…. Try to understand…. The South-American pragmatic approach to the Malvinas issue did begin at the inflexion date: 15 February 2010

    Malvinas is like a tooth cavity for us in South America… Unimportant but noticeable…
    We are on the way to the dentist to repair it and forget about it……

    About your rampings……
    Last time you ramped, it wasPotash… and what happened?
    Those Degenerated Communist French Canadians ruined a perfectly sound capitalistic business claiming “National Interest”
    Can you believe it !!!
    Somebody should teach those backward ignorants about pragmatism and the real world…
    A job for you… perhaps?

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    I hope Beef's right about the ferrochrome .... I've been sitting on the shares for a while now !

    Teeth ... once lost, cannot be truely replaced Think ..... your dentists can only offer a 'false' one :-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Gold, porcelain, acrylic.... who cares.
    As long as the infection is removed :-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fox

    Another NUTTER trying to get on the good side of Argentina by making inane comments about something that is non of their concern.

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    'long' ... is the word :-)

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Infection was removed in 1982, dictatorship. Now it is time to find and remove the oil. Didn't actually ramp potash, don't need to, it will ramp itself as there are more mouths to feed.

    Regarding pragmatism, Brazil are still happy for ships to come and go!

    All that you have left is the option of pragmatic policy formation as your other approaches have failed to alter anything and in fact have further strengthened the will of the Islanders. If you want some money then perhaps you can start to talk seriously, otherwise the cash will go elsewhere.

    Your choice!

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    @35 Fox. Don't be nasty! Lots of torpedos and missiles for everyone.

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    And argentina will still never get the falklands no matter how many friends she has,
    As for Brazil [nuts]

    Nov 22nd, 2010 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cadfael

    I like Brazil nuts!
    And cashews, and chestnuts!

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Chocolate coated Brazil nuts...Mmmmmm.

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    is Argentina trying to get South Africa & Brazil to do their dirty work?
    they certainly can't do it anyway! just in case you haven't heard, amigos the Falklands are British. hope this helps

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    ”We must look for peace, stability and progress in the region helping to build an integrated, fair and democratic country”.Ambassador Alberto D’Alotto, head of the Foreign Affairs Desk.......You cannot be Democratic and go around claiming Islands that clearly (under international law) do not belong to you and never have...and have been forcibly repossessed from you.This must be an Argentine and Brazilian version of democracy. No doubt Brazil will also agree with all other Argentinian claims for parts of Chile as well. Just because Belgrano waved his hands and claimed everything south of B's A's .....does not mean that Argentina owns it !

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stillakelper

    Well Mr Think, for something that is unimportant you sure spend a lot of time on it, trying to convincve others that your colonial aspirations are OK in this case, however abhorrent they may be in all others.

    Time to grow up children.

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    It's a strange coincidence that it always seems to be that only when another South American country is negotiating with Argentina over something (ie they need cooperation from Argentina) that they come out in support of Argentinas claim, then ignore it any other time.

    Odd that is.

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    South American country is negotiating with Argentina over something (ie they need cooperation from Argentina) that they come out in support of Argentinas claim, then ignore it any other time.

    Of course I will respect you in the morning

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    ROGGER & America. Go on then. Bet if we pee we can drown you all. Might not even need a torpedo this time.

    Nov 23rd, 2010 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    THIMC

    Argentinean proposal about “Refusal of Service” for all Malvinas related shipping on all ports of Unasur’s member states. ….

    Today, 25/11/2010, Unasur meeting, Georgetown….. Hot and humid…….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQI8pMWXE2k

    Nov 25th, 2010 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    When in spam, do as the spammers

    There are currently 18 territorial conflicts in Latin America, one of them is Argentina with Great Britain for the Falkland Islands, the Summit agenda includes discussion of possible sanctions UNASUR countries to Great Britain;
    well as the ratification of the Constitutional Treaty of UNASUR and the election of the new Secretary General.
    teleSUR

    includes discussion of possible sanctions UNASUR countries to Great Britain;

    And if Thinks Granny had balls she would of been his grandad

    Nov 25th, 2010 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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