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Brazil’s multi-billion jet fighter purchase will be decided by Dilma Rousseff
Brazilian President Lula da Silva has said he will not make a decision on a multi-billion-dollar jet fighter purchase before stepping down on January 1, state media reported. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesF 18 Is a lot cheaper, by a large ammount so they could afford more of these. But the french Rafale is an amazing jet.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In this electronic time and age (and if we are going to buy stupid arms anyway), technology transfer should be THE crucial factor of all South American defence procurements.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The French are offering it.
The American not.
Just imagine ………………… 36 young Brazilian ”Top Guns” sitting in their shiny new American F18 cockpits ready to take off against a potential American invasion.
Suddenly a sensual female voice with deep Texan accent can be heard……. ……..
“You are not authorized to use this vehicle”
“It will autodestruct in three seconds”
“Have a nice journey”
Good Booooooooooooooooooooom
Brazil has tied the purchase of the aircrafts with technology transfer. The problem with the US is that, even if it commits to technology transfer, it is likely to veto sales of the F18 to countries that are not aligned with it. When Brazil tried to sell a set of Embraer-made small jets called SuperTucano to Venezuela, the US vetoed the process because parts of the aircraft contained US technology.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0France is not likely to veto sales of its aircrafts. But the Rafale also has that same problem: some of its parts include US technology, and so does the third contender to F18 and Rafale, the Swedish Gripen.
The tech transfer would not include the nation being allowed to mass produce and sell the aircraft to other nations...That would kind of put the french aircraft industry out of business.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0tech transfer would include being able to build the planes on contract in brazil.
You're wrong. Brazil's intention is to sell the aircrafts to other LatAm nations. This is know from the beginning. A proof of that is that many members of the government - Lula himself, the Defense Minister Jobim and Lula's advisor in foreign affairs Marco Garcia - publicly dissed the F18 offer because of the US's record in vetoing sales. That's the greatest reason why the Rafale has had Brazil's preference thus far.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Under contract...Like i just said.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Much like how the US builds harrier jump jets under contract.
I should go for the Sukhoi 35 and MIG 35 low cost and reliable 4++ generation capabilities.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0With USD 4bn can be bought close to 87 jets. $35/45m each SU 35
With USD 8bn can be bought close to 178 jets $30/45m each MIG 35
Plus more advanced electronics 5th generation.
AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) far advanced than Eurofighter and current Rafale ESA
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“I should go for the Sukhoi 35 and MIG 35 low cost and reliable 4++ generation capabilities.”
Dec 08th, 2010 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0For once i agree with you and Brazil's airforce wanted to go this way but the government seem set on the french jets.
Also the EF is getting AESA.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0How cute!
Dec 08th, 2010 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nicodin and Zethee.....
Brothers in arms :-)))
For once i agree with you and Brazil's airforce wanted to go this way but the government seem set on the french jets.
Dec 09th, 2010 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0What I read about the Sukhoi 35 is that The Brazilians did not selected it, because transfer of technology would be difficult from the Russians.
Best deal so far are the French or the Swedish Gripen that allows transfer of technology and build in Brazil and sell.
Russia does TOT (transfer technology) in fact have offered MIG 35 and Su to India under this condition.
Dec 09th, 2010 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0See the part referred to MIG 35
http://www.defenceaviation.com/2010/10/top-6-aircraft-in-indian-medium-multi-role-combat-aircraft-mmrca-competition.html
“What I read about the Sukhoi 35 is that The Brazilians did not selected it, because transfer of technology would be difficult from the Russians.”
Dec 09th, 2010 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0From what i've read the brazilian air force wanted the 35's but it was the government who choose the french jets over these. So they could build and sell them on contract.
@10, sarcasam is lowest form of wit, snr think
Dec 09th, 2010 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0(14) Cher Mlle./Mme.? Isolde
Dec 09th, 2010 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unwitty sarcasm is my weapon of choice against heavily armed stupidity…………
So think, how does one be scarcastic to himself?
Dec 09th, 2010 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From what i've read the brazilian air force wanted the 35's but it was the government who choose the french jets over these. So they could build and sell them on contract.
Dec 10th, 2010 - 03:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Than you should read more Mr Zethee if you really care. The problem with the great Sukhoi was (what is important for the Brazilians) Transfer of Technology. The Brazilians also “wanted” the Eurofighter, but again technology transfer was and is an issue. Now suddenly, Brazil is very important (how the world has changed), all three (Boeing, Saab, Rafale) are willing (the US says that but you never know with them) to transfer technology and strengthen the relationship with Brazil. They know they can make money with Brazil and through Brazil. http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/brazil-embarking-upon-f-x2-fighter-program-04179/
I don't really care.
Dec 10th, 2010 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Brazilian air force prefered the 35's because it suits brazils needs better than the rafale.
The Brazilian Government will choose the french Rafale because of the Technology transfer and boost to the economy from exports, because the french are desperate to get some exports from this jet.
The competition is about tech transfer as much as it is about the actual design chosen. And the government won.
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