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Assange remanded in custody; Wikileaks promises to continue publishing material
The founder of whistle-blowing website Wikileaks, Julian Assange, has been refused bail by a court in London but vowed to fight extradition to Sweden. Mr Assange denies sexually assaulting two women in Sweden. He was remanded in custody pending a hearing next week. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom. Another is that he had unprotected sex with another woman, Miss W, while she was asleep.” ???????????????? While she was asleep? hahaha
Dec 08th, 2010 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=244986&Itemid=1
http://www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=244986&Itemid=1
Arrested in Britain under obviously phony accusations (they where dropped weeks ago in Sweden but curiously “revived” hours after the last bunch of leaks) after having publicized incriminating documentation about the ruling powers…………
Dec 08th, 2010 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Freedom of speech anybody?
Let's hear the opinion of those Brutons and Malvineros soooo preoccupied about Argentina’s Press Freedom?
Who is the Brainwashed?
He's wanted in sweden, so we'll send him to sweden where he can go to trial or whatever.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was under the impression that in order to be proven innocent you first had to go to court. If his arrest is politically motivated it would be Swedish politics.
First turnip explanation...... and a pathetic one.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The level of brainwash of the Brutish youth knows no limits....
Think, the British believe that everyone is entitled to their day in court. That includes both anarchists and indeed countries!
Dec 08th, 2010 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0If there is a reasonable accusation and a legal warrant then extradition must be considered. Provided that it is believed that the accused will get a fair trial, then extradition will take place.
Does Sweden have a poor reputation for injustice?
(5) Hoyt
Dec 08th, 2010 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am not criticizing the excellent European legal systems. (Even if in this case they ar obviously being misused and disrespected)
I am criticizing the posters in here that denigrate Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela etc…….., when we try, by the same legal means, to bring criminals with blood on their hands, but happen to own a newspaper, to justice…..
You know perfectly what I am talking about…..
You are one of those posters :-)
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# gdr ; my valioso mate ......
Dec 08th, 2010 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0not at all...known or not .. depend on who you are ....
these type of operations are not new but similar ...like once
Russian revealed the ** Sykes - Picot Treaty 1916 ** !?.
Does Sweden have a poor reputation for injustice?
Dec 08th, 2010 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does Argentina have a poor reputation for injustice?
An attack on media freedom. Now, how can the West keep complaining about China or Chavez with a straight face?
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought the accusation was 'rape', not embarassing the USA ?
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am criticizing the posters in here that denigrate Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela etc…….., when we try, by the same legal means, to bring criminals with blood on their hands, but happen to own a newspaper, to justice…..
Dec 08th, 2010 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think talking bollox again
Why didnt you let Chile have that nice terrorist chap back, some weeks ago
“ .... Here’s what we know. There is a long history of the CIA viciously smearing people who dare to cross the US state machinery. There is a strong chance the claims against Assange is another case of it. But there is also a long history of otherwise admirable men turning out to be rapists, and there’s a chance this is another case of it. This should be tested in a court of law – and the trial should be watched very careful to make sure it’s not being rigged by bribes or threats....”
Dec 08th, 2010 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-this-case-must-not-obscure-what-wikileaks-has-told-us-2154109.html
I thought that was well put!
“First turnip explanation...... and a pathetic one.”
Dec 08th, 2010 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's pathetic for someone accused of rape to go to court?
He's probably innocent, but it should still go to court if evem to prove his innocence.
@11
Dec 09th, 2010 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0IMO it is pretty clear the charges are politically motivated. According to the article, US Defense Minister Gates has publicly said of Assange's arrest that it is 'good news'. And why is that? Because Gates is just concerned about Assange's dangerous behavior toward women, or because Gates knows that Assange's job is bothersome to US foreign policy?
His arrest couldn't stop this new leak today:
Dec 09th, 2010 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The British government's deep fears that Libya would take ”harsh and immediate“ action against UK interests if the convicted Lockerbie bomber died in a Scottish prison are revealed in secret US embassy cables that show London's full support for the early release of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi.
Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, made explicit and ”thuggish“ threats to halt all trade deals with Britain and harass embassy staff if Megrahi remained in jail, the cables show. At the same time ”a parade of treats“ was offered by Libya to the Scottish devolved administration if it agreed to let him go....”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/189254
for the first time l have to agree with the Argentinean posters about Julian Assange. the whole thing sounds like a trumped up charge masterminded by the CIA. got to get him in custody somehow, to get him off the streets. everyone is terrified of the leaks to come, and l said EVERYONE
Dec 09th, 2010 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a serious game he's playing, hope for his sake he's holding some very good cards....
Dec 09th, 2010 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0(17) Isolde
Dec 09th, 2010 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Crystal clear opinion from a British lass……
(18) Westi
Really?..... Don't say!
But.......What do you mean exactly with: when playing a “serious game” you need to hold “good cards”.
That the basic human rights, laws and rules blazoned by the “Advanced” Western Democracies don't necessarily must apply when the “game is serious” and the “stakes are high”?
Malvinas, for instance.......
You know what I mean think, you're not that naive...are you? Freedom of Speech is a fine thing but it does not mean you can get away with saying or doing or broadcasting absolutely anything you want. I'm not saying it's right that he's persecuted in this way (if he is being persecuted that is, maybe he actually is a rapist), I'm just saying what tha fuck did you expect Assange? a medal or something? Wikileaks absolutely REEKS of trouble.
Dec 09th, 2010 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's quite a leap relating this to the Falklands think, that's quite clear cut once you get past all the rhetoric, it's merely an irreconcilable dispute over sovereignty of some Islands, quite straight forward.
16: “...Alex Salmond claimed Scotland was offered a ”parade of treats“ by Libya, which were all turned down, according to the cables....”
Dec 09th, 2010 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure Zethee. Do you believe in Santa Claus?
Dec 09th, 2010 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you believe wiki leaks up until you disagree with some of what the leaks say?
Dec 09th, 2010 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cool story.
Well he was released by the British Gov., so now I am waiting for the next leak to get the complete story. I am sure that they got a nice juicy deal, otherwise the release of a mass murder, sick or not, doesn't make any sense to anybody.
Dec 09th, 2010 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Think, l agree with you about Julian Assange,.........
Dec 10th, 2010 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0but not the Falklands, different case all together.
@20 WestisBest, even if he's got very good cards,they will get the poor soul. He has immense courage.
@24
Dec 10th, 2010 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2010/10/06/Chile-Argentina-row-over-asylum-deepens/UPI-46521286396201/
27 gdr..... all right .
Dec 10th, 2010 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Definitely smells of a set-up. The way that they are trying to silence wikileaks is way more embarrassing than any of the leaked cables so far. The timing just seems incredibly convenient.......
Dec 11th, 2010 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whichever way you spin the pressure on the U.k government by Libya, it's pretty embarrassing , but it would be hypocritical of me to assert that the leaks should stop as they show successive British governments to be spineless lightweights.
Seeing as this is inevitably getting linked to the Falklands, at least they're not caving in on the Falklands issue.......
Viva Assange y viva la autodeterminación de los isleños!
“The way that they are trying to silence wikileaks is way more embarrassing than any of the leaked cables so far”
Dec 11th, 2010 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So they're trying to silence wiki leaks by sprawling his story over the media over his arrest?
“Whichever way you spin the pressure on the U.k government by Libya, it's pretty embarrassing , but it would be hypocritical of me to assert that the leaks should stop as they show successive British governments to be spineless lightweights.”
Those same leaks also say how the threats were ignored.
Maybe I misunderstood, but are you implying that nobody is trying to silence wikileaks?
Dec 12th, 2010 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think it's naive to think that commercial interests played no part in his release whatsoever, and that it was purely on compassionate grounds.
However, I do agree with your earlier point that he should face his charges in Sweden, as long as it's a fair trial completely separate from wikileaks, and ultimately doesn't lead to extradition to the U.S.
Regards,
Frase
“Maybe I misunderstood, but are you implying that nobody is trying to silence wikileaks?”
Dec 12th, 2010 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, i don't know the entire situation, and personally i like the whole wiki leaks thing.
However. I also think that any intelligent person would realise that by arresting this man, if it was a “cover up” would not cover anything, but rather broadcast his story to the entire world.
The last thing you want to do when trying to not bring attention to a story is to gain the entire worlds media on the subject.
Where are you quoting “cover up” from? High level North American politicians have been openly musing about how they can stop wikileaks, some calling for Assange's execution/assassination, others about which laws they can try him under.
Dec 12th, 2010 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The series of big companies that have cut their links to wikileaks, after simultaneously familiarising themselves with their respective terms and conditions, most citing 'illegal activity´(despite them not being charged with anything) and all since the cables have been released, suggests they are acting under government pressure.
And I doubt that the denial of service attacks on wikileaks was carried out by concerned citizens working independently.
In light of these things, I don't think that it is overly unintelligent (as you seem to be suggesting) to conclude that people are trying to silence wikileaks.
We'll have to see how the trial unfolds, if he is proven guilty and gets sentenced proportionally (in the same way that the last person was sentenced for the same crimes, and in the way that people do get sentenced for this crime), or if he is proved innocent in court, then fair enough, but is it really that far-fetched to suspect at least a slight bit of political motivation behind this?
Where are you quoting “cover up” from?
Dec 12th, 2010 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Definitely smells of a set-up. The way that they are trying to silence wikileaks”
Unless i mistook what you said, my using the words cover up, and you using the word silence, still ammount to the same thing.
Even if he goes to jail, it wont stop Wikileaks. Not much of a silence.
Wikileaks supporters will continue, The database has been copied thousands of times over.
Dec 16th, 2010 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0We respect the law. We hope that justice will respect Free Speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLcUVNee_UI&feature=related
We do not forgive. We do not forget.
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