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Upset in Argentine as US President Not to Visit During Forthcoming Trip to Latin America
United States President Barack Obama’s forthcoming visit to Latin America has cause upset in Argentina, because he will not be visiting the country. In March Obama will embark on his first trip to South America and Central America, visiting Chile, Brazil and El Salvador as he tries to shore up security and economic ties with the emerging economies. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell I suppose Brazil is the big boy in South America. And Chile, well everybody likes Chile.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one cares about Argentina, they think CFK is crazy, the country offers no strategic importance...so why would Obama go? To be treated like Bush? I think not.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Ks were blacklisted and pretty soon Arg will be out of G20 then they will truly be irrelevant...as much international influence as say, Paraguay...
Argentina should actually feel flattered not to have to house this weakling superstar wannabe.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow we actually agree on something!
Jan 27th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'No strategic importance'...? To be treated like Bush????'
Jan 27th, 2011 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow. Who writes these things... Must be a fellow Falkland Islander who has no idea what has happened in South America in the last ten years yet thinks all life evolves afround them ...
Argentina, and several other s american countries, are moving away from the bum kissing past relationships with the States (I probably should mention at this point so as to put it into further context, that the Argentina of the 70's had many top military people (yes, the same types who were in the background of the Falklands invasion...) trained there... as did others... Chile still practises some of that 'economic tinkering', hence Obama of course is still going there...I digress anyway.
The Kirchners have put Argentina back onto the map as far as stability goes, and frankly don't need any more neo-liberal meddling, which - in case the ill informed dont realise - supports right wing thinking/business approaches - i.e. imperialistic capitalism.... Its a widespread feeling in S America. And considering the States history of meddling in virtually every right wing dictatorship takeover, it should be applauded.
(3) Forgetit86
Jan 27th, 2011 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a matter of fact, I would have been “upset” if he was coming...
His “No Coming” is the best indicator that Argentina is fulfilling to perfection her role in the independent Unasur and Mercosur.
Brazil,..... you talk to the guy and explain him the new situation down here. ......Ok?
Interesting that there's no confirmation as to whether he'll visit Colombia. If he won't go there, he'll be showing himself to be a most inconherent strategist among recent US presidents. For all of Bush's mistakes, he did put in practice some clever ideas in the foreign agenda - eg, the US-India rapproachment.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Jan 27th, 2011 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“His “No Coming” is the best indicator that Argentina is fulfilling to perfection her role in the independent Unasur and Mercosur.”
On the contrary, it proves what little Argentina has to offer and how little relevence Argentina is to the outside world.
I too would avoid meeting the fruit loop Cristina, he'll only recieve an earfull of whinging about the Falklands.
“His “No Coming” is the best indicator that Argentina is fulfilling to perfection her role in the independent Unasur and Mercosur.” Wrong, first, because the pussy that said that doesn't believe his own words. His communist heart cries hipocritically because the president of the Empire is not comming to Argentina. Second, because this woman (Cristina de Kirchner) is a nutjob, she's been saying that she's anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, anti anti, and now she's upset because Obama will be in Brazil and Chile but not in Argentina. She believes that people are stupid, haha, that's the reason why she is considered a bipolar. Her daughter was studying in New York, that's so anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist. She loves Capitalism and Imperialism, it doesn't matter what she says, her actions speak louder than her words. She cries now for Obama.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She says and does things to win the elections, but after, she regrets it. It's too late for that Mrs Cristina, you are a liar.
This ape should stay away from Argentina.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poCfutKNeig
We don't need him!!!
Jan 27th, 2011 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The more far away, the better.
Obama visiting “key leaders” of the continent - El Salvador, Chile and Brazil - now that's gotta be a smack in the eye for bi-polar Christina, and for every other Argentine citizen who thinks that Argentina is either the continental leader or has aspirations of leadership! Thankfully old Nestor can only look down from above - if he ever entered the pearly gates.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Word, some of us have visited your patch in recent times (as well as other countries on the continent) but nothing much changes - Argentina remains too full of self delusion and its own self importance in the realm of world politics. Why do you think Cameron is going to Brazil?
There's only one continental leader - Brazil - but only if Dilma can keep it on course and appease her minorities. Future Argentina? Fred says it all.
“Obama visiting “key leaders” of the continent” Obama visiting helpers of his country, he's trying desperately trying to save the USA's butt. The USA is not even a country, is a place that belongs to many countries. It's time for our country to stop licking the USA's butt not the contrary, Cristina should be happy not upset, she's an idiot. Obama can and must stay away from Argentina.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Much as I dislike the clown, one of the best decisions Obama has ever made.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who would want to visit a cesspit?
why are you all nasty to poor old Argentina, tut tut,
Jan 27th, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don’t worry I will the president to come and visit you.
im sure after a quick phone call the president of Trinidad and Tobago will come [promptly] or the president of uganda,, no pun intended
who cares ? we have a president in Argentina, what do we need Obama for, isn't USA going bankrupt anyways ?? there is nothing we want from Obama Argentina is trading with China and I don't see the situations changing anytime soon..
Jan 27th, 2011 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol nobody takes the US seriously anymore.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Denrich
Jan 28th, 2011 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah... do you mean your little world Den?
Let me see...
1 -First visit to a foreign country scheduled for Dilma Rousseff (Brazilian president) is to Argentina not US.
2 -Hu Jintao first official visited was to Argentina and not US.
3- Dmitry Medvedev (Russia) his first official visit was to Argentina and not US. (by the way he is very short) http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08tucap7wY7G8/610x.jpg
4- Arabs countries visited Argentina to invest money and make business. While they are running from US.
Well enough to show you that all those leaders, that USA needs desperate to buy its bonds, sell I don’t know what from USA to them and finance crumbling America’s economy, etc.
Didn’t take US as a priority in their agenda.
Seems US was not very important to them as you may believe.
What do that tell you Den?
@Sir Rodderick Bodkin
I don’t care about him but money talks and Uncle Sam doesn’t have any left so first US has to pay its 14 trillions external debt, take care of the assets denominate in US dollars and then we may be will hear about how big USA is.
We want to hear cuts, cuts and cuts at the moment, 300bn US dollars held by Argentineans are saying so.
So he is really stupid and is not upsetting Cristina (what I don’t care really) else Argies US dollar holders trapped like the rest of the world in US’s fiesta.
I thought the US had taken Argentina's side against the Empire in the Falkland Islands.
Jan 28th, 2011 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm perhaps not.
The Empire Strikes Back .....again.
Has anyone yet figured out why he does that?
Jan 28th, 2011 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Half of his numbers aren't even correct. Very strange person.
Nico: You have the very same learning disabilities that all Argentinians seem to have, can't do math, don't understand economics, don't understand politics maybe it's not a learning disability maybe you are all just plain dumb. Either way, why don't you go on answering yourself under different nicks and leave the rest of us alone.
Jan 28th, 2011 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama is visiting El Salvador because it's a key country in the war against organized crime (marras) in the US and neighbouring countries, it needs its own Plan Colombia which is probably what Obama will anounce there. It's also the home of many immigrants/citizens in the US. He's going to Brazil because it's the only BRIC member in the hemisphere, and the single greatest US (and China, and EU) trade partner in the continent. He's going to Chile because it's the most stable economy as it has been for the past 15 years, expect a lot of 'save the miners' diplomacy, Chile also has a free trade agreement with NAFTA. He's not going to Argentina for the same reason he's not going to Paraguay or Guatemala, completely irrelevant economy with zero significance to world market or to international policy.
Jan 28th, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope that Obama will visit the Falklands that will be a nice blow to the K regime,anyhow in 10 months the K people will have to pack their suitcases,
Jan 28th, 2011 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0everybody in Argentina and neighbour countries will be happy when a new governement arrives in 2012.
You forgot the cash:
Jan 28th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0170bn in banks held by privates and companies abroad. (Central Bank estimation some years ago)
50/60 bn in cash hold by normal people.
50 bn in reserves hold by the govt.
Plus treasuries bonds hold by investors may be your 11bn.
Total $281bn dollar
Britain is for sale, who's first? :)
Jan 29th, 2011 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whoever can afford it I reckon......so not Argentina that's for sure.
Jan 29th, 2011 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0:0)
Nico, I think it must be very hard for you to grasp how much larger the USA is than Argentina or the whole of SA. We have 11 TRILLION in bank reserves, 44 Trillion in household wealth, 7 Million people with over 1MM in assets..Total Assets of US economy 188 TRILLION!
Jan 29th, 2011 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/
Can you see the difference? The USA and it's people are extremely wealthy, we will be the richest country in the world until long after your grandchildren are dead.
Our meager 3.2% growth this year is 150% Larger than all of Argentina TOTAL GDP, and that was our yearly growth!
Maybe when your country gets into the TOP 25 it may get some respect, but that won't happen in your lifetime.
the problem with the argentines is that most of them have a trmendous inferiority complex with Europeans and North Americans,they want
Jan 29th, 2011 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to be always on the same level as both groups ,indeed a serious blow to their self esteem
@FredMex
Jan 30th, 2011 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reserves??? You own money doesn’t count as a reserve because any country can print it as its wish. What you are actually doing. Zimbabwe is doing so, read the Weimer republick and what happen to Germany.
Your reserves are $46.358 billion and falling. And you can check it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_foreign_exchange_reserves US #31 And Argentina #27 so you don’t get lost with the numbers.
You have less reserves in gold and FE than Argentina to back you currency Idiot. What currently are 52,497bn.
So if some one holding USD 50 bn wants to exchange that you only have 46.358bn to respond and back your currency. Now think in 300bn or worse 3 trillions. Your dollar castle falls and collapses.
About your article, what have to do with the liabilities and crash of US?
The money in balance sheet in your banks is virtual just a figure in a computer screen and don’t belong to US else corporation, foreigner govt. funds domestic and overseas, private savers. Like your house or are you letting the govt. to take your house to pay its debt?
Are you going to rip Soros, Mosanto, Microsoft, Jim Rogers, Cargill, JP Morgan, Foreigner companies, Exxon, etc to pay your liabilities?
And in case you can do that, How will you survive without factories, banks, farms, corps, etc?
Remember you have to sell it to pay the huge debt...
What about to sell California?
Last and not least, The British Empire was far larger, dominant and had more assets than US today until 1914 when they started to rise its external debt especially with US, then WWII came and the debt was astronomical. After WWII every move by the Brits to keep their empire was blocked by US they end ruined and US emerged as a power. Do you see your recent history here? Nothing is too big to fall, lets see in the next convention of losers.
@ expat
If you refer to me I’m European good try but not clue.
: )
Nico, you are a sudaca cleaning floors in a UK bar you are not from the EU. So what currency is Argentina's 52B in? Hmm U$.. yes and it is in NYC. Retard.
Jan 30th, 2011 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW we have 8133 TONS of Gold in reserve...
@Fredmex
Jan 31st, 2011 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sudaca???? What that means Sudamerican From California? OR Carolina??
You are really more ignorant than I ever thought.
Only ignorant Americans believe that US is holding own gold in the vault of Fort Knox in Kentucky.
Your total Reserves in Gold and Forex is USD 46.358bn. When US dólar older found an alterntive to keep save they savings forget about the dollar as a FIAT currency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enm0CBx52g4
Since the fictional report of reported $137 billion stockpile of gold bars in Fort Knox is from the era of President Eisenhower.
Since that none actually could probe any trace of that gold. Is like claming that Argentina still has the gold of the time of Peron’s presidency and none has access to prove that.
Ron Paul wanted to pass a bill to inspect and audit how much gold actually remain there but allways he was blocked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enm0CBx52g4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enm0CBx52g4
And we don’t have our reserves in US as they were moved to Switzerland and other more secure places.
And according to international law ad treaties foreign reserves deposits by government are untouchable even by US.
Since it is obvious your reading comprehension is not ver high, here is a pretty picture for you: http://www.cnbc.com/id/33242464?slide=16
Jan 31st, 2011 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cnbc.com/id/33242464?slide=16
Can you please tell me why dumb people always think there are conspiracies every where?
History shows that argentina has always been a semi colony,first of Spain,then of Great Britain,then of USa and now of Brazil,they are just born loosers
Jan 31st, 2011 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35 ...us colony of GB and the US? when?? what are you smoking?? Can I have some??
Jan 31st, 2011 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 35 an expat! that means you have no patria anymore. We are really important, that's why you are here :)
Jan 31st, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That sob (Barack Obama) will receive the same treatment as Bush, if he ever comes to Argentina. Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5fuYdrCjg
argentina must understand this is 2011 u only need the 1 who loves u the USA is not the icon of world any more , respect those who love u and like u. u do not have to the presadent of the usa to visit u tobe so dam popular those days are over u only need your self to be popular.
Feb 01st, 2011 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0@FredMex
Feb 01st, 2011 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The most recent U.S. Treasury statement of the U.S. international reserve position, released Jan. 24, lists the total U.S. foreign currency reserves as $71.515 billion, of which $11.041 billion is listed as gold (including gold deposits and, if appropriate, gold swapped). “
Can you see 11bn in solid Gold reserves declare for your own govt and this was in 2008 http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45782
So can you explain me how a country with $387.32 billion just in gold as a reserves only declares 11bn in statements release for foreigner banker and governments?
Why a country in need of fresh loans from the world to survive, declares less amount of reserves in gold when that is not good for its credit rating?
You need to buy gold to avoid personal financial collapse haha
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45782
Is long I hope you arrive to the end...
Because our gold reserves were valued at $35oz when we left the gold standard in 1934 and we don't do market based accounting. It has stayed book value of $35oz even though gold is valued at $1350 oz because we will never sell it so it doesn't matter what the market value is.
Feb 01st, 2011 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't you do your own research?
You are really a dimwit.
The wise, however, are investing in Silver, both in shares and in physical silver ... bullion.
Feb 01st, 2011 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bullion market is under pressure at the moment, some houses reporting shortages in certain sizes.
So get yours now, the race is on!!
“Kirchner has shown her upset, on several occasions, because she feels Argentina has not been receiving the attention it deserves from the United States.”
Feb 01st, 2011 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uhh... I think Cris considers Arge more important than what it really is... Besides she's friends with Chavez... personally, I wouldn't visit the country knowing that xD
And somehow, I consider a good thing Obama's not coming... It'd be a shame that something like the nasty events from the 4th Summit of the Americas happened again... :/
you mean President obama won't be going to Argentina to give us orders and tell us what to do ?? o noo my GOD, what are we going to do ?? will the world still spin tomorrow ?? will the cows fly ?? will the sun not rise, will there be any oxigen in the air ?? will night fall ?? I doubt anything will happen other then Argentina's trade with China, India, Pakistan, Russia or Brazil will keep getting more attetion now that the leachy middleman is cutt of off his tit.“no hay mal que por bien no venga”.
Feb 02nd, 2011 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if that's the case so be it. If the country is going to take an anti american policy (like we always did anyways) please don't cry to Hillary to help mediate a settlement with GB in regards to Malvinas ..... we cannot be ambivalent in that sense. Either we are with them or against them. Se entiende??
Feb 02nd, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@artillero601
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cries Arti? She offered her services alone.
Hilary: We would like Argentina to participate in nuclear security issues.
Cris: hum..OK
Hilary: We would like you to lead the Group of 77
Cris:... OK
Cris: And what we would get in Return?
Hilary: Our support to bring UK to discussion table to restore Argentina’s sovereignties rights or the archipelago.
Cris: OK I like that lets do it : )
No need to cry Arti if UK falls even more Obama will say “Argentina our strong ally and strong Friend in the south Atlantic, Antartica and Malvinas”.
Politics are like like this ask David Cameron if you don't believe me : )
we all know that the support from the US on the issue is probably useless ...
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The usa has been always an ally of GB ,there are GB troops in Afganistan,there were in Irak,etc.The Falklands airport is an alternative landing strip for the Discovery if something goes wrong,
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA will always support GB with the Falklands ,there is no doubt about this.
So dont dream of a change in the support,Argentina is not important any more,only brasil counts.o
we already know that
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ expat
Feb 04th, 2011 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The usa has been always an ally of GB” no, no, no and no.
GB always was the hugging dog around US and made everything se could to please America.
Do you remember Obama speech?
“France is our strong ally and strong friend in Europe” AKA OTAN
“Argentina is not important any more,only brasil counts.o”
That sounds fine for me we don’t want to be important, and you?
anyhow ,the USA will never change an ally of same culture and interest
Feb 04th, 2011 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0for a latin country which is almost hostile to everything that comes from USA,not now but always in the history of argentina,remember the Braden-Peron trouble, so regarding the Faklands mister Twitterman has to abandon the idea that the USA will side with his country otherwise he will make the same mistake as Costa Mendez in the war,who told galtieri that the USAwill side with argentina or stay neutral.
@expat
Feb 04th, 2011 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0we don’t count on US what for?
We don’t care at all.
But you are right the moron Galtieri counted on US and he got what deserved.
“will never change an ally of same culture”
Really what culture?
“latin country which is almost hostile to everything that comes from USA”
We are not hostile to everything that comes from USA, we just don’t accept USA intervention in our region lets say from Cuba to Antartica that’s all.
Do you understand the difference?
And by the way I don’t know what you call Latin country, do you mean descendents from those countries controlled by the Roman Empire? Like France, Spain, part of Germany, Great Britain, Romania, etc? Better known as the western civilization?
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