yes welcome to Argentina, at least someone want to visit us President Kirchner may well say, interestingly he did not mention the British Falklands, but then again, if you was visiting someone you admired, would you wish to be a thorn in her side ? , but no doubt Argentina will read far to much into this visit , as long as she don’t get her hopes up she just may scrape through,
The FI issue is a tiny matter as compared to the overall economic and political importance of Argentina to Brazil. It wouldn't be surprising if the meeting doesn't address the FI at all, unless Argentina insists otherwise.
Brasils relationship with Argentina is already on the level of France and Germany.What should concentrate minds around here was the meeting in Santiago this week of nine ministers from Argentina and Chile which seeks to put this relationship on the same level.Chiles foreign minister went out of his way to emphasize that they fully support Argentina in its rights to the Malvinas.Part of the discussions in BA it seems will be about the. joint development of nuclear powered submarines.
Pres Rousseff arrives at aeroparque at 1100, flies out at 1600..... given how Jorge Newberry functions that will give about 30 mins for lunch with the Botox Queen.... hardly much time for 'in depth' discussion about the menu let alone anything else.
But Dilma will be able to put a tick next to Argentina in her diary.......
''' ... What should concentrate minds around here was the meeting in Santiago this week of nine ministers from Argentina and Chile which seeks to put this relationship on the same level.Chiles foreign minister went out of his way to emphasize that they fully support Argentina in its rights to the [Falklands] ...”
Wow ... earth shattering stuff! That's never happened before !! Oh dear. We are in trouble now ..begorra!!
Martin_Fierro. Don't worry amigo they argue like that but it eventually clicks even in pea brains like redhoyt who seems completely incapable of coherent arguement.The botox queen seems to get a lot done and I bet she and the ex guerilla will get on very well
I think I could see how any discussion on the Falklands would go:
Kirchner: now we must discuss Brazil's approach to the Malvinas, we want active support from you, not just words as in the past
Rousseff: Ahem....cofftradesurpluscoff....
Kirchner: OK...let's move onto the next item
I guess that will take in the Ezieza aquifer, Villa 31, and the derelict Grundig building at Ushuaia.... (Frank @ #5)
Don't know about Grundig, Frank, but I thought the Eleiza aquifer was certified as uncontaminated by anthropogenic radioactive isotopic materials - at least it was in 2008.
Wrt Villa 31 - Dilma will certainly be able to swap stories about favela/villa life. This is one common theme across South America but probably the nut hardest to crack.
I think they might talk about drug-dealer elimination in shanty-towns but I doubt they will find time to address urban planning, building standards and urban infrastructure.
And our friends are all aboard,
Many more of them live next door,
And the band begins to play.
We all live in nuclear submarine,
nuclear submarine, nuclear submarine
I take it [we] means Argentina,
And should not nuclear submarine be Yellow
Interesting how you left the words [Argentina] And [yellow] out, was it not ??
Basically no matter the subject, anything and everything is related to Malvinas / Falklands conflict so if the price of rise in China goes up tomorrow is because of the same thing ..... wow !!
surely not true, UFO'S don’t come from Argentina,
admittedly they were of British decent, but surely Argentina and great Britain are friends, AINT WE???
@ 23 so when that guy said the world was flat, [it was flat] Wrong, again! :)
It's true, that's why he said it, not, it's true because he said it. Can you see the difference? One day you'll grow a brain... I hope so :)
all fools together, rude to the good, nasty to the end.
Yet still the bloggers never learn, poor Argentina to be represented by such hateful people, thank goodness Argentina is better than that ?
@ 26 poor ninny, having no life, having no friends, having no females, having nothing, he can only spend his days worried about Argentina. Go play football, it will make you good, you'll see, or perhaps you love dolls haha
I think both Brazil and Argentina could benefit from a nuclear defence program, the defence indutry around the world created a lot of jobs from this trades and invest bast amount of capital, I don't hear many nuclear weapons indusrty going bankrupt.
more nuclear weapons that are built, the more likely a war will happen.
the west hopefully will reduce theirs, and others will follow,
Einstein once said it is not weapons that kill, its humans,
weapons are just a tool ?
I just wonder... what for Briton is the west? [explain what you mean]
merely the truth, more countries that have them, the more chance it will happen. If you are referring to [who is the west]
this stems from the cold war, the west would include France , great Britain and the U S A ,the nations that have nuclear weapons, the uk government is already reducing hers, the Americans are in agreement with Russia to reduce theirs to under 2,000 each I think,
hopefully others like china, India Pakistan and Israel may or may not follow, all I can say is, if they are ever used, it could possibly see the end of mankind as we all know it today,
so lets all hope the powers that be, reduce and eventually get rid of them all, just my opinion ,
The concept of west started in the times of the Ancient Greeks when they named all to their right (what is today western Europe) Occidin/Occidine and later the Romans turned into Latin as occidens what we call now occidente in Spanish, occident in English, etc.
So we are occident (the West) all the culture and heritage left by the Romans. The western Christian/Roman civilization.
And also geographically we are in the “West” as we are placed in the Western Hemisphere.
The yanks have all wrong in their mind they never were good for geography, history and that kind of stuff.
They still believe that they have invented the Car, Hamburgers, Pizza, Salsa (dancing stuff), the jeans and the West.
Nuclear capabilities will increase in the world as a balance of power. Do you think that US would have attacked Iraq if they have Nukes capable to reach US?
So I go for everyone to have some nukes just in case.
if policing the world is the job description of the US (apparently it is) what happened to North Korea and Iran? if the idea is to remove every SOB in the planet, why do we allow the Africans to kill each other like there is no tomorrow?? .... oh ! I forgot the oil, never mind !!
some people here get it wrong, they think Argentine need weapons to attack, but this is the oposite we need nukes to deffend Argentina from UK occupation, if history serves us better britain tryed this once before but yet they believe we attacked them in 1982,
I don't remember any boats going to UK in 1982, I guess they forgot Argentina 1806-1807, sometimes I wish I could take back every mistake I made, doesn't everyone ? but I doubt brits will let us forget the mistakes they made, we got rid of them in the mainland but the internet brought them back in our face, isn't it ovious we are under threat and need a nuclear deffence program just in case the internet pirats get colonial trigger happy. Nuclear DEFFENCE programs are not a threat to anyone, IT IS A THE RIGHT TO ANY NATION UNDER THREAT, OR OCCUPATION. I believe in a world where the 100000 tanks and 1000.000 guns of opression will be replaced by a sinlge nuclear missiles of libery security and freedom, what better way to save the planet then to invest all our limited resources in a lot more farming equipment rather then many tanks and guns, why invest in millions in military when we can buy a single nuclear missile to secure pease, how can anyone argue this position ???
35 NicoDin , thank you, I did not wish to go back that far, but that’s ok.
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as for , if you have nukes all will respect you, and no one will attack you,
sadly this is and will become a false prophecy
let me explain
the uk, has nuclear weapons, this did not stop Argentina from attacking the Falklands,, [you may reply the Falklands is not the British mainland]
now try that same attack on say Hawaii, and see what happens,
further, if Iran gets unclear weapons and the means to fire it,
in their own words they will attack Israel, , if extremist ever get hold of Pakistanis unclear weapons, then god help all of us,
as I have said before, and this is true, its not the weapons that is the danger, they will only wipe out the human race] its whoever’s finger [human]
is on the button, , put simply if a civilised man is in charge then you have less that one percent of him using it, [safeguards in place]
but if you have a madman’s finger on the button, then you have a 90% chance of seeing a giant mushroom in the sky, this may all be irrelevant
it will purely depend on what one believes will happen,, some people think it will, some people think it wont, ??????
well i understand that you do not like the yanks, and they may well be ignorant and stupid,,
but either way if it is fired, and by anyone, we will not be arround to complain, thats for sure .
#39 Good theory however a nuclear defence talk BS walks, why don't you try those fear tactics with USA, LOL see if USA says it's ok we will give up our nukes, untill then BS walks nuclear deffence talks, beside without any illegal aliens in Malvinas Argentina, I am sure our job at the UN will be easyer, this 2000 odd pirats need to be documented or sent home.
ha ha very good
the falklands will remain british, but I agree with you that the yank wont listen to me, everything is a good theory until proven good or bad .
#43 Argentina's claims is for Malvinas Argentinta, the fakland island company can go to britain whenever they like, I don't think Argentina want anything to do with them, unless they keep trying to claim our land. do you know if UK got rid of the Roman gipsys yet ??
To important thing to remember there is president Dilma Rousseff seems to know where she is standing.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesyes welcome to Argentina, at least someone want to visit us President Kirchner may well say, interestingly he did not mention the British Falklands, but then again, if you was visiting someone you admired, would you wish to be a thorn in her side ? , but no doubt Argentina will read far to much into this visit , as long as she don’t get her hopes up she just may scrape through,
Jan 30th, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No mention of the FI ... strange ..... unlikely in fact. Maybe these pages just failed to mention it!
Jan 30th, 2011 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The FI issue is a tiny matter as compared to the overall economic and political importance of Argentina to Brazil. It wouldn't be surprising if the meeting doesn't address the FI at all, unless Argentina insists otherwise.
Jan 30th, 2011 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And they usually do :-)
Jan 31st, 2011 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0to discuss expanding cooperation in the fields of .........nuclear energy, social development projects, digital technology ....
Jan 31st, 2011 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess that will take in the Ezieza aquifer, Villa 31, and the derelict Grundig building at Ushuaia....
Brasils relationship with Argentina is already on the level of France and Germany.What should concentrate minds around here was the meeting in Santiago this week of nine ministers from Argentina and Chile which seeks to put this relationship on the same level.Chiles foreign minister went out of his way to emphasize that they fully support Argentina in its rights to the Malvinas.Part of the discussions in BA it seems will be about the. joint development of nuclear powered submarines.
Jan 31st, 2011 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pres Rousseff arrives at aeroparque at 1100, flies out at 1600..... given how Jorge Newberry functions that will give about 30 mins for lunch with the Botox Queen.... hardly much time for 'in depth' discussion about the menu let alone anything else.
Jan 31st, 2011 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0But Dilma will be able to put a tick next to Argentina in her diary.......
O gara, don't bother with these idiots, they cover their ears and go 'la la la la' ...everything's fine!! ;-)
Jan 31st, 2011 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0''' ... What should concentrate minds around here was the meeting in Santiago this week of nine ministers from Argentina and Chile which seeks to put this relationship on the same level.Chiles foreign minister went out of his way to emphasize that they fully support Argentina in its rights to the [Falklands] ...”
Jan 31st, 2011 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow ... earth shattering stuff! That's never happened before !! Oh dear. We are in trouble now ..begorra!!
So we sailed on to the sun,
Jan 31st, 2011 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Till we found the sea green,
And we lived beneath the waves,
In our nuclear submarine,
We all live in nuclear submarine,
nuclear submarine, nuclear submarine,
We all live in nuclear submarine,
nuclear submarine, nuclear submarine.
And our friends are all aboard,
Many more of them live next door,
And the band begins to play.
We all live in nuclear submarine,
nuclear submarine, nuclear submarine,
We all live in nuclear submarine,
nuclear submarine, nuclear submarine.
Martin_Fierro. Don't worry amigo they argue like that but it eventually clicks even in pea brains like redhoyt who seems completely incapable of coherent arguement.The botox queen seems to get a lot done and I bet she and the ex guerilla will get on very well
Jan 31st, 2011 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0DIMwit - there is a difference between nuclear powered and nuclear armed .... thought you should know !
Jan 31st, 2011 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think I could see how any discussion on the Falklands would go:
Jan 31st, 2011 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchner: now we must discuss Brazil's approach to the Malvinas, we want active support from you, not just words as in the past
Rousseff: Ahem....cofftradesurpluscoff....
Kirchner: OK...let's move onto the next item
;o)
gossip = politics
Jan 31st, 2011 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess that will take in the Ezieza aquifer, Villa 31, and the derelict Grundig building at Ushuaia.... (Frank @ #5)
Jan 31st, 2011 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't know about Grundig, Frank, but I thought the Eleiza aquifer was certified as uncontaminated by anthropogenic radioactive isotopic materials - at least it was in 2008.
Wrt Villa 31 - Dilma will certainly be able to swap stories about favela/villa life. This is one common theme across South America but probably the nut hardest to crack.
I think they might talk about drug-dealer elimination in shanty-towns but I doubt they will find time to address urban planning, building standards and urban infrastructure.
And our friends are all aboard,
Jan 31st, 2011 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many more of them live next door,
And the band begins to play.
We all live in nuclear submarine,
nuclear submarine, nuclear submarine
I take it [we] means Argentina,
And should not nuclear submarine be Yellow
Interesting how you left the words [Argentina] And [yellow] out, was it not ??
wow, those haters can't sleep at night thinking about Cristina and Dilma, now that's torture haha
Jan 31st, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyCuYikI0Q
Basically no matter the subject, anything and everything is related to Malvinas / Falklands conflict so if the price of rise in China goes up tomorrow is because of the same thing ..... wow !!
Jan 31st, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0surely not true, UFO'S don’t come from Argentina,
Jan 31st, 2011 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0admittedly they were of British decent, but surely Argentina and great Britain are friends, AINT WE???
http://www.itamaraty.gov.br/sala-de-imprensa/notas-a-imprensa/declaracao-conjunta-por-ocasiao-da-visita-da-presidenta-dilma-rousseff-a-republica-argentina-2013-buenos-aires-31-de-janeiro-de-2011
Jan 31st, 2011 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dilma Rousseff
Feb 01st, 2011 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Presidenta de la República Federativa del Brasil
just because he said it, does make it true ?
@ 21 just because he said it, does make it true? It's true, that's why he said it.
Feb 01st, 2011 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0so when that guy said the world was flat, [it was flat]
Feb 01st, 2011 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0well well you learn something every day on here ha ha
@ 23 so when that guy said the world was flat, [it was flat] Wrong, again! :)
Feb 01st, 2011 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's true, that's why he said it, not, it's true because he said it. Can you see the difference? One day you'll grow a brain... I hope so :)
@xbarilox
Feb 01st, 2011 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot to translate Lily’s song for FredMex he sure cannot understand her English as sounds from great London.
BTW where is FredMex? may be depressed while seeing US falling?
: )
all fools together, rude to the good, nasty to the end.
Feb 01st, 2011 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet still the bloggers never learn, poor Argentina to be represented by such hateful people, thank goodness Argentina is better than that ?
Of course we are .....
Feb 01st, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 26 poor ninny, having no life, having no friends, having no females, having nothing, he can only spend his days worried about Argentina. Go play football, it will make you good, you'll see, or perhaps you love dolls haha
Feb 01st, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0little things please little boys,
Feb 02nd, 2011 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0play with your XBOX and let the adults talk
I think both Brazil and Argentina could benefit from a nuclear defence program, the defence indutry around the world created a lot of jobs from this trades and invest bast amount of capital, I don't hear many nuclear weapons indusrty going bankrupt.
Feb 02nd, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0more nuclear weapons that are built, the more likely a war will happen.
Feb 02nd, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the west hopefully will reduce theirs, and others will follow,
Einstein once said it is not weapons that kill, its humans,
weapons are just a tool ?
Hear, Hear ... Mr Britton !!
Feb 02nd, 2011 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just wornder... what for Briton is the west?
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc-AQJ2MYo
????
I just wonder... what for Briton is the west? [explain what you mean]
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0merely the truth, more countries that have them, the more chance it will happen. If you are referring to [who is the west]
this stems from the cold war, the west would include France , great Britain and the U S A ,the nations that have nuclear weapons, the uk government is already reducing hers, the Americans are in agreement with Russia to reduce theirs to under 2,000 each I think,
hopefully others like china, India Pakistan and Israel may or may not follow, all I can say is, if they are ever used, it could possibly see the end of mankind as we all know it today,
so lets all hope the powers that be, reduce and eventually get rid of them all, just my opinion ,
@Briton,
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The concept of west started in the times of the Ancient Greeks when they named all to their right (what is today western Europe) Occidin/Occidine and later the Romans turned into Latin as occidens what we call now occidente in Spanish, occident in English, etc.
So we are occident (the West) all the culture and heritage left by the Romans. The western Christian/Roman civilization.
And also geographically we are in the “West” as we are placed in the Western Hemisphere.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/occident
The yanks have all wrong in their mind they never were good for geography, history and that kind of stuff.
They still believe that they have invented the Car, Hamburgers, Pizza, Salsa (dancing stuff), the jeans and the West.
Nuclear capabilities will increase in the world as a balance of power. Do you think that US would have attacked Iraq if they have Nukes capable to reach US?
So I go for everyone to have some nukes just in case.
: )
if policing the world is the job description of the US (apparently it is) what happened to North Korea and Iran? if the idea is to remove every SOB in the planet, why do we allow the Africans to kill each other like there is no tomorrow?? .... oh ! I forgot the oil, never mind !!
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0some people here get it wrong, they think Argentine need weapons to attack, but this is the oposite we need nukes to deffend Argentina from UK occupation, if history serves us better britain tryed this once before but yet they believe we attacked them in 1982,
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't remember any boats going to UK in 1982, I guess they forgot Argentina 1806-1807, sometimes I wish I could take back every mistake I made, doesn't everyone ? but I doubt brits will let us forget the mistakes they made, we got rid of them in the mainland but the internet brought them back in our face, isn't it ovious we are under threat and need a nuclear deffence program just in case the internet pirats get colonial trigger happy. Nuclear DEFFENCE programs are not a threat to anyone, IT IS A THE RIGHT TO ANY NATION UNDER THREAT, OR OCCUPATION. I believe in a world where the 100000 tanks and 1000.000 guns of opression will be replaced by a sinlge nuclear missiles of libery security and freedom, what better way to save the planet then to invest all our limited resources in a lot more farming equipment rather then many tanks and guns, why invest in millions in military when we can buy a single nuclear missile to secure pease, how can anyone argue this position ???
@37 actually you are right! the moment you have nukes , everybody respects you
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 035 NicoDin , thank you, I did not wish to go back that far, but that’s ok.
Feb 03rd, 2011 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0/////////////////////////
as for , if you have nukes all will respect you, and no one will attack you,
sadly this is and will become a false prophecy
let me explain
the uk, has nuclear weapons, this did not stop Argentina from attacking the Falklands,, [you may reply the Falklands is not the British mainland]
now try that same attack on say Hawaii, and see what happens,
further, if Iran gets unclear weapons and the means to fire it,
in their own words they will attack Israel, , if extremist ever get hold of Pakistanis unclear weapons, then god help all of us,
as I have said before, and this is true, its not the weapons that is the danger, they will only wipe out the human race] its whoever’s finger [human]
is on the button, , put simply if a civilised man is in charge then you have less that one percent of him using it, [safeguards in place]
but if you have a madman’s finger on the button, then you have a 90% chance of seeing a giant mushroom in the sky, this may all be irrelevant
it will purely depend on what one believes will happen,, some people think it will, some people think it wont, ??????
@briton
Feb 04th, 2011 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0And do you think that the nukes under the fingers of the yanks make you safer than in the hands of the Chinese, Russians, Cubans, NK, Iran, etc.?
Tell me who from that list has used Nuclear weapons against other nation?
Yes only US, can you imagine US with riots on the streets, in default desperate to hold an empire falling?
Well wait and you will see and especially when the nukes will be in the hands of US’s politician like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5V_-_aUZo
can you imagine someone more ignorant and stupid in this world?
well i understand that you do not like the yanks, and they may well be ignorant and stupid,,
Feb 04th, 2011 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but either way if it is fired, and by anyone, we will not be arround to complain, thats for sure .
#39 Good theory however a nuclear defence talk BS walks, why don't you try those fear tactics with USA, LOL see if USA says it's ok we will give up our nukes, untill then BS walks nuclear deffence talks, beside without any illegal aliens in Malvinas Argentina, I am sure our job at the UN will be easyer, this 2000 odd pirats need to be documented or sent home.
Feb 04th, 2011 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha very good
Feb 05th, 2011 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0the falklands will remain british, but I agree with you that the yank wont listen to me, everything is a good theory until proven good or bad .
#43 Argentina's claims is for Malvinas Argentinta, the fakland island company can go to britain whenever they like, I don't think Argentina want anything to do with them, unless they keep trying to claim our land. do you know if UK got rid of the Roman gipsys yet ??
Feb 06th, 2011 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0To important thing to remember there is president Dilma Rousseff seems to know where she is standing.
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