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US Air Force plane cargo triggers serious Argentina/US diplomatic incident

Tuesday, February 15th 2011 - 05:57 UTC
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Argentina presented a formal protest to the United States embassy in Buenos Aires over the incident of a US Air Force plan that landed in the country last Thursday with alleged undeclared military equipment. Read full article

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  • Teaboy2

    Lol i think the argies are getting way to big for their boots, last country they want to annoy is the US.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Looks like this is the usual Argie tantrum when they don't get what they think they should ... in this case a visit by the US President. Children !

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Yep. “Oh... Loooook... they got morphine on the plane....” “Quick... Sieze it, so we can get back at them yankies for their President not visiting us” lol

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    And I conccur, sorry won't do.
    I bid anything if they where Mexican in USA or Colombian military USA would use the excuse to blow them out of the map, maybe they should be bared from ever landing in Argentina, I think something like this happend already in 1833.

    “morphine and psychotropic medication
    The material seized from the plane’s cargo included “software, security information, weapons and narcotics,” all elements that according to the Argentine government, had not been authorized or listed by the US government.”

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    #1 Like anyone cares about what the US thinks these days.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Oh Dear, Timmermann has seized the Botox Queens meds.....

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @4

    Your forgetting something - Your Government invited them there to help train your police, the US being the helpful type they are, get it their efforts to help train your police thrown back in their faces. Seriously is that how you argies thank your friends for their help. If so, then then am surprised you have any friends at all. Oh but i get it, you didn't like the fact that Obama wont be visiting so this is the Argie way of making your feelings clear. Pathetic really isn't it.

    And i fail to see any comprison to what happened in 1833 in the falklands either. the nearest comparison i know of is 1982 when we brits kicked your arse's and siezed your military equipment that you illegally took with you to the falklands. :) lol

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    The treatment of these brave US servicemen who have probably seen action in Iraq and Afghanistan is an absolute disgrace. Argentina should immediately release the US military equipment and allow the US personnel to go about their legitimate business.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    they ask them to come and train their Police then seize their equipment when they do come? que? well, what can you say?

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @ lsolde

    “what can you say?”

    Nothing we need just some secret codes, encrypted software and com devices to make some calls.

    Ring, ring Obama are you there?

    Haha

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    @ #8 Be Serious
    “The treatment of these brave US servicemen who have probably seen action in Iraq and Afghanistan is an absolute disgrace.”
    ROFL! What makes it “probably”? Because you want it to be so?
    There are no brave US servicemen, they're mostly just teens who need money for college, can't find work in the private sector, or want to kill something. I was in the US military, I know. See, I'm speaking from a point of experience, while you're just speaking from out your ass, as usual :D

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    “I'm speaking from a point of experience”

    That I very much doubt, more like, well, out of your ass. The “Cubs” or “Boy Scouts” don't count for anything. Another Walt claiming to have some. Pathetic really.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Hey Mr Masterbates.

    Do you know the US personnel in question? No you don't, so what gives you the right to accuse them of not being brave, to accuse them of being teens in need of money, or wanting to kill something? You have no such right, as your experience is yours alone and it doesnt give you the right to to accuse those that face incoming bullets and IED's on a regular basis on tours of duty to protect your Country, while you sit on your ass at a computer typing shit and enjoying your freedoms, that without such bravemen as the US personnel your refering too and those in 1942 (some as young as 16 years old), you wouldn't have such freedoms. You where in the US Military you say? Some how i doubt that. As one thing, no service man would speak of others so disrespectfully. Are they brave? Yes. Are you? No your just a pathetic excuse of a man.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    I say the Americans shouldn't stand for any of this sort of nonsense, send in a gunboat!

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    roflmfao @ these comments ^ i guess i really got you mad :D

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Gosh these sad Argentinian peeps seem to hate the United States of America even more than dear old Blighty. Quite shocking really.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • atk357

    I think the Argentinean government is acting as if “stupidity” were a virtue. Or better yet... a bloody science!! It is just pure nonsense. It reminds me of Gulliver's travels.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Is Teaboy2 related to Fredbc?
    “last country they want to annoy is the US”
    Who gives a rat dude.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Will its marcos ravingmadjandro.

    1 - no i am not related to Fredbc

    And 2 - am sure you argies will give a rat or 2 if you piss of the US for them to change their stance on the falklands to support the UK's claim.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • rylang23

    Okay guys, do any of you remember Operation Condor and what happened in the Southern Cone in the early 1980's? Might memory of those events give Argentina at least a little reason to look closer at what the US does in South America? And don't forget that SouthCom (US MIlitary) is basing troops and planes in Columbia with a mission statement to be able to deploy anywhere in South America to support the American agenda. Please consider a little context here.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tim

    Wouldn't this be political revenge 'cause the US didn't inform the Argies (and rightly so) that a Bombardier with a ton of drugs was heading from Moron to Barcelona???

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    #7 we didn't take any fakland that british company is still british, Argentine liberated Malvinas Argentinas from british illegal alien occupation, I don't know what you guy are talking about. in any case if you bring dope into a country you should be punished otherways legalize it and nobody will stop you, and one last ting if you need weapons everywhere you go I think they should stay home and quit arming terrorits around the world, Argentina should legalize drugs and automatic riffles that way we wouldn't have this problems with USA ever again and then we could commercialize it like USA and bring in in our planes around the world to sale as USA does with the CIA..

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    I suppose we can all surmise what the yanks were doing in Argentina.
    but the very words in that statement reading
    [highly-sensitive communication devices and a letter that read, in Spanish, ‘I am an American soldier, let my country know I’ve been arrested’.”]
    this tells me its not against the British, so forget it, but that statement usually is used by special opps, and if USA soldiers get caught in someone else’s country, if I was an Argentinean citizen I would be very worried,
    just an opinion ,,

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    why worry when all this could be used to get a nuclear defence program started, we need all the excuses UK and USA can give us, the world is waiting for someoe to take on USA or UK, if the terrorits don't finish them first.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    What you think that someone is going to be argentina ROFL.

    Yeah, you thought the same thing in 1982 didn't you! But look what happened then, you got your arse's kick big time! So its safe to say you will get your arses kicked again next time, only next time we will probably finnish the job once and for all!

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    This happens because Cristina is a liar. USA should stay away from our country, after all, who cares what the United States of America want? Perhaps this will be a lesson to learn for Cristina, no business with the USA gov., the USA gov. will always lie, unless Cristina is supporting torture.
    We don't want this in our country:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H20cedylQAo

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    what happened in 1982 ? was that the year we liberated Islas Malvinas Argentina from illegal british occupation ?? we did it once we can do it again, no body likes illegal aliens and land thieves, look what is happening in Israel and Palestine. bring it on gals, but don't be mad when someone put you in front of a camera and slices your neck in half, I believe that Argentina should legalize drugs and weapons and build them to sale in other nations occupied by brits around the world fighting to free themselves from english allys occupation, you have a great idea #25 we should finish the 2000 illegal aliens next time we liberate Malvinas Argentina to never have this problem again, I can push the button and later I can hand myself in, let them punish me, I am ready to make that sacrifice for my people, are you ??

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    No, I, that was the year you got your arses kicked, and if you did that once I'm sure you can again.
    Not sure what kind of button you'll be pressing in Canada anyway.
    Keep taking the medication, you pathetic specemin.

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    PMSL @ I(mbecile)

    Ooooh....You're a really scary internet warrior aren't you? I honestly did laugh out loud at your post, you've certainly put the fun back into fundamentalist.

    :-D

    Feb 15th, 2011 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Now if the US is looking for a base near South America, I know some islands that are strategically placed and may be willing to negotiate :-)

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    #28 Malvinas wasn't so big when the brits where told to go home in 1982. LOL just remember to sleep with one eye open to not miss the Argentine flag going back up in Islas Malvinas Argentina, we did it once and we will do it again hopefully we'll have a nuclear defence program next time, and solved all your problems in one shot, I think I much rather utilize resources in good things, but oviously UK will not have it any other way, sad really! (really)“REALLY”! SAD.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Vernet

    this threat is much more real then we think, let us never forget what the USA did to help the british in 1833. good thing this guns and drugs were found before they planted them in Argentina.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Falklands weren't so big when the Argies were sent packing in 1982 !

    Hopefully ???? lol

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    #31 Oh “I” Your going to launch nukes on Uk are you, i doubt that, see thanks to our Friends the US, we will have a missile shield to protect us from such NUKE missles (which would be shot down over the atlantic), and allow us all the time in the world to lauch a sme from our sub in your back yard. LOL

    As for the Falklands, bring on and lets see whos crying at the end of it. but then Argies are very good at crying arn't they, so i think we already know who will be crying at the end of it, as it sure wont bet the islanders or us brits.

    P.s. its also my proffessional opinion that you seek psychological help ASAP, as i do get the impression from your posts that you are suffering from Schizophrenia - given just how much you have lost touch with reality!

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @ Teaboy2

    “Your Government invited them there to help train your police, the US being the helpful type they are, get it their efforts to help train your police thrown back in their faces.
    Seriously is that how you argies thank your friends for their help”

    No, no, no this is not philanthropy, US offers the training under a program training exchange “you train some of our police we train your soldiers” and is not free this cost 2m dollars.

    Here Argie commando training Americans soldiers, Peruvian and Brazilian. $$$

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9zuv7k4_Y

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A.J.Rimmer

    Where in Canada are you I? Are you enjoying the free health care?

    Argentina has enough issues with guns and drugs, but then again, it's better to blame someone else, after all, it is the argentine way.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @#34

    Well NicoDimwit. Its funny it the video thats there is no amercan solidiers, just argentinian, brazinian and peruvian. Also i doubt the Americans would beable to understand what the hell the instructor was saying either.

    As for the US offered training of your police in exchange for argentina training their soldiers. RFLOL, Seriously! Why onearth would the US need their Soldiers trained by argentinians when the US soldiers are the most advanced trained fight men in the world.

    I think you will find it was your Government that agreed to the US training your police and as such they invited the US in to your country to do so.

    I always knew you were dim Nico but that video where you claim argentina commando is training US soldiers is just prove of your a dimmer that i and no doubt the rest of us here originally thought LOL!

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    “I”-Take your medication, now

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Teaboy2

    “I always knew you were dim Nico but that video where you claim argentina commando is training US soldiers is just prove of your a dimmer that i and no doubt the rest of us here originally thought LOL!”

    Wow Oh! What am I going to do now? FredMex2 haha

    At least you don’t understand English (especially American) or you don have your speakers turned on or may be are partially or temporally deaf or you had suddenly turned blind.

    Its is quite clear that those soldiers on the left are Americans with a translator in the back.
    “When he says fuego you fire the target” When you have it down let it go” he said to the other Americans.

    So my question for you is where are you from Mexico? I think even the more dummy brits will recognize American accent on the fly. And for an American would be much easier. Don’t you think so?

    Here the description of the scene:

    1- The instructor is an Argentinean commando training these soldiers on urban combat tactics.
    2- The 4 soldiers on the left (with beige or brown light vest and same colour the boots) plus his translator are Americans.
    3- The other soldiers on the right in the same line are Brazilians easy to know as you can see the Brazilian flag on their uniforms.
    4- The 2 other soldiers, one filming and talking to the camera and the other smiling and standing close to him are Peruvians.

    “Seriously! Why onearth would the US need their Soldiers trained by argentinians when the US soldiers are the most advanced trained fight men in the world”

    Really and how do you know that? Because you have read it on the Washington Post?
    May be because since Vietnam US never won any conflict as expected.

    Call the Pentagon ask Obama.

    I don’t care really.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    @masterbaterjb.-- you are as stupid as NicoDin looks...

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Bubba

    “you are as stupid as NicoDin looks”

    What part of... I don’t care what you think you cannot understand little Mohammed?

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    If the terrorists dont finish us off first?? Well Argentina had any guts to stand against muslim extremists then they'd be on thier hitlist too, but we all know argentina wouldnt have the balls.

    And i agree, why did america need to bring in narcotics on the c-17? theres tonnes of the stuff lying around Argentinean air force bases anyay...could have just asked the station commander for a spare kilo ot ten.

    Go on Timerman and Kirchner, really piss off America, Obama has shown real restraint with your bloody country, if it was Bush Snr , you'd be lucky not to be on its hit list.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @Nicodimwit.

    Funny, the instructor looks like a peruvian officer given the red soldier badge on his right soldier. So kind of mutes your argument of american soldiers being trained by argentinian commando doesn't it. Also the vide was taken during the Panamax 08 joint excersies that invloved over 19 nations. and not only that who stands to benefit more latin american militarys, whos equipment is dated our in argentine case virtually redundant, or that of the well equiped US service men that do firing excercises shown in the video on an almost daily basis (and as such don't need instruction on how to do them from a foreign officer) and not to mention the us military being capable of defending the Panama canal by itself. So come on Nico Dim Wit who stand to benefit the most frm such joint training excercises?
    http://www.southcom.mil/appssc/factFiles.php?id=66

    As for

    “May be because since Vietnam US never won any conflict as expected.”

    Well tyou argies should know better than anyone that no war goes as expected, for example 1982 war over the falklands didnt go as you argies expected, did it now!!

    And if you were trying to say the US has not won a war since Vietnam, then name those wars that the US didn't win as i suspect you will be surprised to hear that they did win.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Teagirl Fred, “And if you were trying to say the US has not won a war since Vietnam, then name those wars that the US didn't win”
    Let's name a recent one: IRAK

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    That's IRAQ Marcos you ignoramus.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    lol. Dont blame him , these latin countries havent the nerve to go fight in the middle east, they'd rather terrorism be tackled by someone else and then they can claim the moral high ground.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Westidrunk 44 Que?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FokJMar_CM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FokJMar_CM

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    ahhh here come the mandatory web links,

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Y Draig Goch, Inselaffen

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Yeah yeah....whatever Marcos, at least Y Draig Goch can spell. Fool.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Westi, English is not my native language and I am sure that I do not spell many words correctly, however many spell Irak with K, mostly Americans. So you can be an arse or an ass, just depends who do you talk to.

    Feb 16th, 2011 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Marcos ravingmadjando (nicodimwits bum chum)

    How on earth can you say the Iraq wars were not won, both were won. the 1st one was the simply to force Iraq army from kuwait, which is what we did (we being US, UK) second one was to remove saddam hussian from power and topple his government. which we did! so no we didnt lose, we won.

    And again, i am not Fredbc i dont even no who frebc is.

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Teagirl Fred Defeat: Why America and Britain Lost Iraq


    http://www.amazon.com/Defeat-America-Britain-Lost-Iraq/dp/1582434034

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Teaboy2

    That video has nothing to do with the “Panamax 08” exercise.
    The place is in Argentina, the commando is an Argentinean easy to recognize for his accent

    What you see in red on his right shoulder is not the Peruvian flag else is his parche or brevet (distinctive of de force he belongs)
    http://parchesdelasfuerzasarmadas.blogspot.com/2009/10/armada-infanteria-de-marina.html
    http://parchesdelasfuerzasarmadas.blogspot.com/2009/10/armada-infanteria-de-marina.html

    “whos equipment is dated”

    And who says that? You? Haha

    About Iraq or Irak

    With your logic we can say that we won the 1rst war in Malvinas 1982 and lost the second. hahah
    Who stupid you are

    1-We took the Islands and defeated your garrison there- Invasion successful, objective done.
    2-We removed the local authority and take control on the islands.
    3- We pack and return back to main land.

    Argies won haha.

    You lose in Iraq and Afghanistan and you were and still are looking for the less humiliating way to get out from there and less impact over the US and UK international image. What of course is already ruined.

    Accepting Reality: America Lost the War in Iraq
    http://parchesdelasfuerzasarmadas.blogspot.com/2009/10/armada-infanteria-de-marina.html
    http://parchesdelasfuerzasarmadas.blogspot.com/2009/10/armada-infanteria-de-marina.htmlo/article12348.htm

    The USA and Britain (the losers) don’t what to accept reality of how dummies and incompetents they are.

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Yeah whatever you say nicodimwit, i think the only one here that believes a word of what your saying is yourself.

    As for the video being pannex 2008 i think you'll find it is, as for then training in Argentina, well so what, each country most likely takes it in turns to host it you idiot.

    As for US and UK losing Iraq and athganistan wars - Do you and Marcos seriously expect me of any other inteligent person to believe you just becuase they happens to be a book written about it being sold on amazon, and a few idiots (your relatives i assume, when it coms to no intelligence) have posted videos up about it on you tube off harry reid saying the war would be lost if tey continued to follow the presidents path back in 2007. Lol yeah Right but that was harry reids opinion that we would lose the war if things a new stragety was not used. But quess what just caos that was harry reids opinion, it doesnt mean we actually did lose the war, because in fact we won the war regardless of what harry reid's personal opinion was. As fo the Article you linked to, well that again is just a 3rd parties personal opinion, which fails to change the fact that yes we did capture baghdad, yes we did topple saddam hussain, yes we did topple his government and install a new government or the fact that irag army surrendered unconditionally.

    And oc course you must have forgotten about President bush's may day victory in iraq declaration onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2989459.stm

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @52Marcos, why do you continually call Teaboy,Teagirl? is it an insult to you for someone to be called a girl? you should be so lucky! you don't deserve to be a girl. Girls are far superior to complete fools such as yourself. As l once remarked, l really feel sorry for Argentine women who have to put up with latin macho-plonkers like yourself. grow up. little man

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Teaboy2

    Well is a matter of point of views:

    1- The war started in Iraq for WMD none was found (intelligence fail)
    2- To bring stability and democracy to Iraq people, Iraq is big chaos, unstable and the people supposed to be the beneficiaries of your invasion ended up fighting against you. 2nd big Fail.
    3- The war was marketed and expected to end in 2 weeks (remember?) another fail.
    4- The Talibans continue operating from Pakistan, another fail sizing the war to other nations.

    So Iraq and Afghanistan are like Vietnam nor UK or USA win else both lost.

    “The Pentagon says that a total of 40,000 troops have deserted their posts (not simply those serving in Iraq) since the year 2000 to 2006” 50.000 were in Vietnam.”

    “When President Barack Obama reassesses the progress of the U.S. war in Afghanistan in December, as he has promised to do, he will be reviewing a lost war. Although there will be no formal surrender ceremony in Kabul, none of the goals policymakers claimed to have in mind have been achieved, and the likelihood of achieving them is diminishing.”

    Source The American Educational Trust (AET) founded in Washington, DC in 1982 by retired U.S. foreign service officers to provide the American public with balanced and accurate information concerning U.S. relations with Middle Eastern states

    Very estrange for army wining a war.

    The only one thinking that US and UK won those wars is you, mate.
    For the rest of the world was a big lost.

    @Isolde

    I still love you

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Teaboy2.

    They certanly were not blazing glorious wins for either of the UK or US. We could be there for 100 and over years and i doubt it would fix the country.

    However, “A military defeat is the ultimate acceptance of cessation of combat by an armed force brought on through exhaustion of the troops, complete loss of cohesion, lack of weapons and equipment, significant interruption of logistic support or loss of effective military command. It is usually followed by a surrender of forces to the victorious enemy.”

    This has not and did not happen in any way shape or form. You are also talking someone who is a known idiot, Nico here is not the brightest bulb in the world..some of his more funny claims are loosing the Afghan war before we've even left. Himself Anthraxing the whole of the UK personally and the fact that he believes that living in a concrete tower block would shield him in the event of a nuclear attack.

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    56 NicoDin
    steady on old boy ,

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Zethee

    Lets see:
    A-Objective of the war on terror war to capture Bin Laden, get rid of Taliban, Terrorist, bring stability to the region and make the world safe. That said from US and UK politicians.

    But US& UK lost in every real sense. Soldiers have been fighting, dying since 2001 and 2006 and until today nothing was archived. There is no peace, no reconstruction (all is in chaos) and the conflict had expanded to other regions like Pakistan, etc. so more terror and threats and violence in the Middle East.

    “exhaustion of the troops... lack of weapons and equipment”
    “Exhausted British troops must not go straight from Iraq to Afghanistan”,
    “Our mandate for action is finally exhausted” Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup

    A senior officer told to Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent, “British troops are exhausted”

    “British troops in Afghanistan are exhausted and desperately short of helicopters, and there is no sign that the casualty rate will fall, according to accounts yesterday from officers on the frontline.”

    Well clear this is a defeat nothing was archived and you have to withdraw the troops like.

    So deny the facts that is very foolish.

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    no comment off back to base.
    see you guys later
    i expect the falklands will still be british

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Objective of the war:

    You wasted an entire paragraph and didn't address my points. I never said it was a amazing stunning military victory. I said, if you would read what i said again. It was not a military defeat. Our troops were not beaten to the point of having to leave or die(A military defeat is what happened in the falklands.).

    Quotes about troops being exhausted:

    Another wasted paragraph. exhaustion of the troops that i mentioned does not mean the triedness levels of the troops, lol.

    Military defeat by exhaustion of troops is what happenes when during a war one side of the war runs out of troops to fight the war so one side must surrender.

    “Our mandate for action is finally exhausted:
    The withdrawal of our troops is not because we have won or lost in any conventional sense”

    You've missed the point of this article also. Honestly read the article you've googled before you link the quote.

    Helicopters: Frontline troops will always want more equipment. This does not mean however they did not have any, nico. The forces did very well supporting two wars at the same time for years while equiping both places.

    “have to withdraw the troops like.”

    Incorrect. Argentina, in 1982 war forced off the islands. Your men surrendered and had no chance of staying had they not given up. That is a military defeat. Planning on leaving a war zone years in advance and then leaving when you've planned to is not a defeat. Our troops were never going to be there forever, you'd have to be an idiot to think they would be...You would also be criticizing us if we did plan on staying there forever.

    Last. You talk about facts. Yet your whole post was made up of opinions.

    You do realise, an opinion is not a fact?

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    55 lsolde, “Marcos, why do you continually call Teaboy,Teagirl? is it an insult to you for someone to be called a girl?” No Isolde! I'm just trying to make Teaboy look smart, sophisticated, and cute like you :-)

    54 Teaboy2 “And oc course you must have forgotten about President bush's may day victory in iraq declaration onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln”

    Oh yes, I remember also the reason he gave to go to Irak: WMD. Never found, big lie that cost the dead of hundreds of thousands of innocents civilians.
    Great job Bush and Blair!( dumb and dumber)

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  • briton

    according to the news, the American president IS going to do a state visit to great britain.
    sorry Argentina perhaps next year lol

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tim

    How on earth does a debate on “US Air Force plane cargo triggers serious Argentina/US diplomatic incident” devolve into a debate on the Falklands??? Argentine one track mind???? Give it a break!!!

    The “brain washing” now has a Act number “Ley Nº 14.222” in the Province of Buenos Aires and for those who can read Spanish click on the link.

    http://jorgerudi.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/el-senado-de-la-provincia-de-buenos-aires-sanciono-por-ley-n%C2%BA-14-222-que-incluye-en-la-ensenanza-de-los-derechos-soberanos-sobre-la-antartida-y-las-islas-malvinas/

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    i have a photo of bin laden in case you need it to find him......hes wearing turbante long barba and has a nice smile..........perhaps must help you not loosing so much time killing people that has noyhing to do with this .................war is garbagge and the longer they become more useless and stupid indeed..........

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    And now the IMF avoids argentina...!!

    Feb 17th, 2011 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Who cares.

    Feb 18th, 2011 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @ Zethee

    My opinion? Is your militaries officers, your govt, etc.

    “Britain's most senior generals have issued a blunt warning to Downing Street that the military campaign in Afghanistan is facing a catastrophic failure, a development that could lead to an Islamist government seizing power in neighbouring Pakistan.” 2007

    “military campaign in Afghanistan is facing a catastrophic failure” well chaos in Pakistan is already made.

    “collapse of the government in Afghanistan, headed by Hamid Karzai, would present a grave threat to the security of Britain” wow more threats to Britain

    “The criticism of the British operation in Helmand centres on its failure to establish security in Sangin – the town which has become totemic as the place that has claimed more British lives than any other in Afghanistan.”

    “The UK military effort in Helmand, which has grown to 10,000 troops and a cost of more than £5bn a year, is criticised by top US officials, who fear the British have bitten off more than they can chew with Afghanistan's largest and most troublesome province.”

    This is a complete failure of the British troops your own allies say so.

    At least for you Afghanistan is a lost.

    Feb 18th, 2011 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    Nicodin you prat, the war on terror was never about getting rid of the Taliban, It was against the multitude of extremist mainly muslim based terror groups..the fact that Taliban refused to hand over Osama is what prompted the invasion post 9/11 anger, the efforts in Afghanistan are now to remove the power base of the Taliban, not destroy them. The fact most of afghanistan outside the Pashtun areas had no love of the Taliban....AND the Taliban in general dont support Al Qeada either.

    Argentina should understand terrorism and be prepared to help the global fight against it, instead of taking the morale high ground over events you show no interest in, until Al Qeada comes knocking on in Buenos Aires you'll all bury your heads in the sand and pretend its just a an american and european problem. Do non of you at least show any sympathy for the Madrid bombings and your Latin Spanish cousins? or do you hate them too?

    Feb 18th, 2011 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    Without wishing to derail the derailment too much, does the idea of trying to smuggle things into Argentina in an aeroplane that is 174 feet long with a wingspan of just under 170 feet strike anyone else as being so pathalogically stupid as to be beyond belief?

    For crying out loud, the thing is 55 feet tall! I've heard of hiding in plain sight, but this is overkill surely?

    Feb 18th, 2011 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tim

    Y Draig Goch, you are quite correct. The Argentines all bury their heads and pretend that terrorism is somebody else's problem. A resident of the city of Rosario lost his son last March in Helmand province, think anyone gave a damn here??? The concept is: “Too far away, will never affect us”. Too hard to understand that NATO allies (including ANZAC) are fighting for world freedom and unless Argentina is out on a planet she is part of this world too, and high time she woke up to the fact.

    Feb 18th, 2011 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “My opinion? Is your militaries officers, your govt, etc.”

    I never said YOUR opinion. I SAID AN OPINION IS NOT A FACT.

    This is true, this is a FACT.

    It may have been facing failiure. Most wars do, 1982 was facing a catastrophic failure.

    But, it didn't. That's the fact. The rest is oppinion. it was you who said, i quote: “So deny the facts that is very foolish.”

    And since saying so, all you've offered is oppinon.

    Feb 18th, 2011 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the falklands are still british then ok.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    I see some Brits here try to lecture of the importance of fighting terrorism.
    Many of this “terrorists” were trained and armed in the past by the CIA to fight the Russians, didn't work very well did it?

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    do they not say,
    one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter ?

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    @ 74 of course there are no home grown terrorists in south america are there? you fkin idiot

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Y Draig Goch

    Me prat? Ha ha

    “Argentina should understand terrorism and be prepared... you'll all bury your heads in the sand and pretend its just a an american and european problem.... Do non of you at least show any sympathy for the Madrid bombings and your Latin Spanish cousins?”

    Oh Yes Moham you are going to explain us what is terrorism hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    We have terrorism on our own soil for 20 years from the 1970 to 1989 thanks.
    And where was US or UK or Spain on those days? Ah yes Spain given refuge to the terrorist, US pressing for human rights while financing one and other side to make thing worst, UK given Asylum to any South American terrorist arguing humanitarian reason and France doing the same.

    So see this place (La Tablada) as is today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtO42I1j3VM

    And how was the life there 30 years ago.
    Terrorist operating in shantytowns and poorest areas taking by assault over conscripts and using them as human shields. Civilians, conscripts dead, burned, etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtO42I1j3VM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtO42I1j3VM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtO42I1j3VM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtO42I1j3VM

    Personally I don’t give a damn thing for the Spanish is not our problem my only concern today is Argentina and neigbouring countries.
    And we welcome and give refuge to Any Irish form IRA, anarchist, Eta member, or whatever for humanitarian reason as you have done before.

    Viva “La Revolución” but in Middle East, Europe and USA, any attempt here would be killed as a dog.

    : )

    @Zethee
    “And since saying so, all you've offered is oppinon”
    What would be oppinon? haha

    But UK still lost, but your opinion is acceptable even though I think you are wrong.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “oppinon”

    Would be a spelling mistake. And i'll quote again:
    “Criticizing someone's spelling or grammar on the internet is the last refuge of someone who doesn't have an argument.”

    Clearly the case here. All you've offered is opinion. What are the facts? Fact is the US and UK successfully invaded and took out saddam hussein and conducted two major simultaneous invasions while keeping a very low casualty rate for nations in two wars. Left iraq when they wanted, when it was planned years in advance. And the other war you claim we lost, the afghan war is a war we are still currently involved in, it is illogical to believe that it's possible to loose a war that will not be over for another four years....When we've planned to leave...four years ahead of time.

    Remember the war between Argentina and the UK. When your men were all captured and sent home, your nation forced to surrender? That's a military defeat nico. Now if your troops had stayed on the islands for 10 years then decided to pack up and go home, it would be a different story.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    i am eating chocolate with almonds ice cream when i began to read this comments and empece a toser xq se me atraganto una almendra en el medio de la garganta y encima my dog little histeric dog began to bark his name is pascual and he never stops. unbelieble comments. we had had here two international terrorists attacks to jewesh communities and we are not invading iran. we judge them. the same spain is doing with eta. anyway the more far away you are from arg the better

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    English only please , comrade, hombre sir, senior

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Zethee

    “Remember the war between Argentina and the UK. When your men were all captured and sent home, your nation forced to surrender? That's a military defeat nico”

    Well is your opinion or oppinon haha.

    We were in a hurry to attend other business and our vacation there were shorter than what we thought.
    That’s all nothing to make a big noise.

    “Criticizing someone's spelling or grammar on the internet is the last refuge of someone who doesn't have an argument.”

    Ah! How are we descending to the same level of English now?. Have you noted that?

    But don’t worry your English don’t bother me at all, Sir. Not everyone can pay education in Oxford like me. haha

    Back to your “Criticizing someone's...”

    Ok and doing the same to a not English mother tongue is the most stupid thing I’ve ever seen.

    You can piss off someone like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg0WG2sPAa4

    So in the future if you don’t want to be bashed and been treat as morons especially for me haha.
    Stop using the language as a tool to avoid the point. And if you want to correct the grammar or spelling of someone you are welcome and with a... “Zethe Oppinon spelling is opinion just I thought to help to improve your English.” It is quite enough.

    : )

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Post # 81 NicoDimWit

    “But don’t worry your English don’t bother me at all, Sir. Not everyone can pay education in Oxford like me. haha”

    Well my friend, what can i say! If you went to Oxford like you claim above, you clearly got lost on the way to the History section in the libary, because if you had not of got lost you would equally aware of the true factual history of the Falklands as us Brits and the Islanders are. But then you are a DimWit so i would be surprise if you ended up in oxford street instead of Oxford itself.

    Oh but then, i seriously doubt you even went to Oxford, and are just making up false claims to improve your standing and reputation amoung the online community here, that you are so good at destroy yourself with such DimWitted claims and comments :)

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “Well is your opinion or oppinon haha. ”

    It's not an opinion, it's a fact. there is no way of getting around this. You was forced to retreat. It was a military defeat.

    .....

    “Stop using the language as a tool to avoid the point”

    ?! I can't believe you actually said this. That is classic, you're ENTIRE post centers around the fact that i made a spelling mistake because you have no argument. YOU'VE done exactly what you've telling me not to do here.

    I care not for spelling mistakes. I make many, I do not mock others for spelling mistakes because unlike you, i can put up a decent debate without having to resort to mocking others spelling or grammar, which is why i quoted:

    “Criticizing someone's spelling or grammar on the internet is the last refuge of someone who doesn't have an argument.”

    This is true, and it is evident in your every post.

    Teaboy2: This guy at Oxford? It's a joke of epic proportions...The guy who thinks a concrete building with windows would shelter him from a nuclear attack, Please.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Zethee, “Fact is the US and UK successfully invaded...”
    To invade was easy, wasn't it? Then after the disaster of the British troops in Basra, forced to leave in a hurry and using the back door. But I have to admit your forces were very “brave” beating children.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEQMC4jdHNw

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    yep
    sure glad we never came part of your little not so great argentinian Empire
    or we would all be licking our wounds after getting beat by the islanders ??

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    Marcos we handed over to Iraqi troops, they even had to bring them from the North of iraq for fear of iranian and mhadi army reprisals against the soldiers, they had 10 times the troop numbers we had, the British troops fought a massive imbalance, thats the governments fault for penny pinching, not the British. The fact is Basra was one of the few success in Iraq early on, it was Iran that caused the escalation against the locals and allies.

    Again, if Argentina had any guts to confront anyone other than a small group if islands off the southern tip, populated by farmers, then you'd be in a position to lecture about wars in a land you have no idea about.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Y Draig Goch . Your opinion about the beating, torture and killing of innocents civilians in Irak? (the video I posted above is just one example)
    We do not confront anyone outside our country Argentina, Malvinas is part of it.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/13/baha-mousa-inquiry-opens

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    pascualito is sir briton very sir.
    argentina lives in democracy and chooses our way to resolve conflicts without wars.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    Well marcos, the 'irak' citizens, well its easy to suggest they were innocent when you read a tabloid that you no doubt get your history from.

    Secondly, do i need to bring up the Argentine ' dirty war' ? if we need some facts about morality and torture, let's start there.

    Thirdly, a few videos of stress positions, a few dogs barking at mhadi army guy's nuts, is about as tortuous as being out on the drink in a major city. If you lot captured a mass murderer, i think he might just ' vanish ' as well.

    And im not sure about these 'Malvinas Islands ' you talk about, but i know some british Falkland Islands your nation managed confront outside your country...

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    88 malen
    Argentina lives in democracy and chooses our way to resolve conflicts without wars.
    ,,,,,,,,,
    if this is so, then why do you refuse to except a democratic vote by free islanders to be British, or are we talking about Argentinean democracy, which is totally different from the rest of the worlds understanding .
    you either have true democracy and freedom, or false democracy [dictatorship] that only accepts argentines’ point of view,
    if its ok with you , I will still with the real thing .

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    briton we are claiming what its our sovereignity for more than 170 years in democratic ways ...you can think what you want
    dirty war has been judged twice in democracy too
    im going to the theatre bye bye

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    Haha, its been judged therefore you can all rest happy in a moraly perfect homeland huh? well we judge the falkland islands are British, but have the right to determine thier own fate.

    170 years of daydreaming gringo.

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    im going to the theatre bye bye,,,,,, 91 malen
    enjoy the theatre my friend, you do know that it is a BRITISH invention dont you.
    shakspear, where out their malen, ye falklands ye are still british lol

    Feb 19th, 2011 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    I think he means he's off to pantomime....an over dramatic show made for kids....just like the argentineans themselves...over dramatic children

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “we are claiming what its our sovereignity for more than 170 years”

    And the people LIVING there have been LIVING there for over 170 years.

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    Just as well it isnt Argentinean sovereignty then isnt it and never has been.

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @91,Malen, claim all that you like, Senorita, but you are still wrong & your country is still wrong.
    you have never owned the Falklands & you never will. just because you claim something does not make it yours.
    l could claim your house, but its not mine, its yours.
    you are claiming my country, but its not yours, its mine(& my countrymen & womens).
    -hope you enjoyed the theatre.

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    ”@ Marcos Alejandro

    Do not seem too much explanation, for someone who won a war? Ja ja

    Everyone knows that the Yankees and lost pomi in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    That newsprint.

    : )
    @ Paint(Malen)

    Responding to the English with some kind of argument is useless, I will repeat hundreds of times as well.
    Best fun with a joke. haha“

    Well NicoDimwit, posting in your native language is futile my friend as your not the only one that speaks it. Also Britian and the US did win the Iraq war. In fact, britian has not lost a war militaryly since the war of independence against british colonists in what is now the US, so technically war against fellow british people. We also did not lose the 1812-1815 war of american attempts to expand inot canada which resulted in the capture and burning of washington Dc including the whitehouse. The 1812-15 war was als fought whist the british were fighting the Nepoleonic wars that we won. In the early 1900's you have the boer wars, which were not a military loss either ende in more of a stalemate. so techinically britian has not lost a war for over 200 years.

    As for your response to Malen that translates to ”Paint” of all words lol. well my friend if you provided factual counter arguments instead of made up nonsense then perhaps you would find yourself making more progress in your war of words with us, but atlas you can not so this war of words looks like another ar won by us british.

    No doubt your post will be removed so i have translate what was translatable for the rest to respond too as well.

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Teaboy2

    Papelón = print

    So shower must be su espectáculo?

    Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Me not anderstand your traduction, deber mejora ud. su español senor.

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    whatever you say NicoDimWit, but it wasnt translated by me, but with internet explorer google toolbar translate function. the fact the majority of the translation was accurate makes the odd word translation irrelevant, and your resonse makes you look the immature Dimwit that you truely!

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    and the falklands are still british,
    and argentina is still the loser lol

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    Im loving this post, my friends in the states still cant believe the whole incident, its not that someone dared to challenge the states, its the method in which it was done, pure third world latin dictatorship style...batteries and personal clothing confiscated....really is the most laughable thing....even saddham couldnt pull a stunt like that without wetting himself with laughter at the stupidity. ( well not now obviously)

    Oh and the war's of independance and expansion in to canada, the colonial wars there etc...we were fighting france and spain as they backed up the american colonialists from the outset, if we hadnt of had an utterly insane George III, we'd still have had USA...well arguably gone independant the way Canada did after world war 2, ...anyway waffle blah etc :D

    Feb 20th, 2011 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Ahh to be British, swarve sophisticated clever great, cunning intriguing -
    ooozes of charisma, charming kingsmanship, honest caring kind
    donating to charity cases [Argentina] respectful polite , oohh to be British,
    and Argentina still yearns cries and sniffles to be let in.
    Sorry no room at the in for brits, haters, go back to your cells lol

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    now now lets be gentlemen, if they ask nicely and stop trying to blockade the islands , they can come visit and enjoy the falkland experience. We must extend the hand of friendship and have it smacked away, than to not offer it at all and play the villain.

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Teaboy2

    Dear Sir,

    I do agree with you that translators are not good enough to get the right meaning from a sentence wrote in other language.

    Learning a language requires investing in education for many years, a lot of reading, practices and after you got some basic knowledge of the language, you need to experience it in the real world with nationals mother tongues in situ. That is the point when you arrive to the conclusion that all you have learned was not enough to make your shopping in the supermarket.

    Seems my translator works better than yours. What do you think?

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @106Nico,very good Nicholas. did you write it yourself or did you get someone to do it for you? l could pick you up on a couple of tenses,but nevermind, that is how the language evolves. l'd give you 96 out of 100.
    (yes l was a teacher).

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    1) isolde you stole the islands and that doesnt make them yours!!!!
    2)Is it here people proud of killing 1.000.000 people in between innocent woman and kids in a war afghan war that is unwinnable said this by one of your ministers??
    3) briton are malvinas still a colony.........clever great superior but without guts to support self determination in 21st century hummmm

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    Hello dear Isolde,

    “Did you write it yourself”
    Yes, but with this English you cannot survive in London believe me.

    “yes l was a teacher”
    really?

    Well I guess you have many potential clients here, like Briton and Teaboy2 haha.

    My “may I go to the bathroom, please” turned into I have to take a .....

    My “would you like something to drink” to “what do you have”
    Underground turned into Tube
    Pounds turned into Quids.
    Leicester Square tuned into Luster square

    Once someone told me that I speak like an old lady or a girl, this is not good for a man? Isn’t it?
    Because I used Bottom instead of...

    So with Got everywhere, what the F and the right accent voila you turn in the perfect English.

    See it by yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM

    has la vista baby,

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    108 malen
    1) You stole them first and that didn't make them yours
    2) 1 million people killed by the British in Afghanistan? really? Where did you get that from?
    3) The British do support our self determination. And we aren't a colony.

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    1) we didnt stole them we heritage them from el virreinato del rio de la plata
    2) british and usa
    3)you say you want to be british, not that you want self determination. anyway you are a special case as you are implanted people. you are an overseas territory of uk thats make you a colony.

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Don't tell me what I say.
    We say we want to be British, and that is self- determination. That is what we want. You can't say self- determination is only allowed if we choose what you want.
    And you can say we are a 'special case' if you like but that doesn't make it true. Implanted by whom, and how? How is an 8th generation Falkland Islander 'implanted'?How were any of us 'implanted'?
    What do you propose happens to this 'implanted population'? How do you see things turning out?

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    when i say you i refer to the people living in malvinas im not talking about monty
    self determination is being british in malvinas?? not being an islander??
    well i dont understand that its up to you really original
    i cant imagine me being spanish living in argentina we are different

    Feb 21st, 2011 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    Are this the same people who's fixing the middle east ?? no wonder they are sending the world into chaos, they never got their opium dosage, as most brits and yanks here.
    http://neglectedwar.com/blog/archives/2034
    don't mess around with the drug cartels.

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Lol malen (aka melonhead) you do talk a lot rubbish. The islanders have the right to choose what nationality they wish to be regardless of their the islands location, hell if the people of Buenos aires voted via the right of self determination to be brits, they can and nothing argentina can do about it. Just like the people of kosovo used their right to self determination to no longer be part of serbia.

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frase

    “self determination is being british in malvinas?? ”

    Self-determination and becoming independent aren't synonymous.

    “self determination is the principle in international law, that nations have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status”

    So, yes, choosing to remain British rather than become independent or a colony of Argentina is them exercising their self-determination.

    Why should they be penalised for not declaring independence?

    If Argentina managed to gain control of the islands, what would happen then? I would think that the population wouldn't accept Argentine sovereignty, and declare independence.

    Campaigning against an old colonial power is one thing, but trying to subjugate a newly independent nation of the Americas to colonial rule is not going to gain much support.

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @109 Nicholas, like the video, he's quite good. All languages have different accents and dialects. Even yours! l was complimenting you on your English paragraph,not being sarcastic. By comparing it to the one that you just wrote l'd say someone else wrote it for you. But who cares?
    a bientot Bebe.
    @Malen, what a load of refuse you talk. l won't bother replying, Monty has done an excellent job of that. just---No Senorita, they are NOT your lslands, they are OURS.

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    How does the smoke and mirrors of the customs dispute turn into Falklands/Malvinas mouth vomit?

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Isolde

    “l was complimenting you on your English paragraph,not being sarcastic”
    Oh! Thank you very much, lady.

    : )

    @ Bubba

    Here your answer:

    7 Teaboy2 (#) “And i fail to see any comprison to what happened in 1833 in the falklands either. the nearest comparison i know of is 1982 when we brits kicked your arse's and siezed your military equipment that you illegally took with you to the falklands. :) lol”

    : )

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @#119 NicoDimWit

    Get right NicoDimWit, it was I's post in post #4 that started the Falklands debate here with her reference to what happened in 1833 as quoted below.

    “And I conccur, sorry won't do.
    I bid anything if they where Mexican in USA or Colombian military USA would use the excuse to blow them out of the map, maybe they should be bared from ever landing in Argentina, I think something like this happend already in 1833.”

    So no it wasn't myself that started but your fellow countrywoman. Oh and falsely accusing myself of starting the debate, is defamatory - if only i knew your ID to take you to court and make you a poorer man than you already are, by sueing you for it. But hey, you argetinians are the experts when i comes to making false claims lol.

    Feb 22nd, 2011 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @120Teaboy2-don't take them too seriously, they're like naughty children.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @121Isolde

    Yeah i know, am not taking them seriously as its kind of impossible to do that with the rubbish they come out with. Just wanted to see how NicoDimwit would respond to the prospect of facing legal action for defamation lol. Seems to have worked too, as hes finally shut up for once :)

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    113 malen
    I live in the Falkland Islands, not 'Malvinas', so I guess you're not talking about me.
    Anyway, you say you can't imagine being Spanish. Well I can't imagine being Argentine and I don't want to. We are Islanders first, and the only way we can carry on being that is to stay British

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Teaboy2

    You are wrong Mr Teaboy as always.

    Law office of M. L Webber y associados International Affairs
    Libertad 1072 3er piso CP 1015
    Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires Fax 4816-2689 Tel: 4816-2756

    February 22, 2011
    Teaboy2
    Malvinas/Falkland
    Overseas territory of UK.

    Ref. Cease& Desist

    Dear Messrs. Teaboy2:

    Our office represents NicoDim in legal matters.

    It has come to our attention that you are engaged in dubious illegal activities with the intention to defame the good name and honour of my client.

    You are hereby placed on notice that our client intends to prosecute this matter to the fullest extend permitted by law unless you apologise publicly and cease and desist to continue with this behaviour.

    In order to resolve this matter, without to take you to court, you must immediately agree in writing to do all the following.

    1) Cease and desist from any future action that could affect the good name, honour and prestige of my client.
    2) Deliver a copy from where you have publicly expressed your regrets for your actions. Mecopress.com would be just fine.

    If we do not receive your written response agreeing to undertake the measures outline above by the close of business, Wednesday, February 23, 2011, we will be forced to refer the matter for further legal action, including but not limited to seeking an injunction.

    The foregoing is not intended to be a complete statement of the law and/or fact relevant to this matter, nor of our client’s legal and equitable rights and remedies, and nothing hereinabove stated or omitted shall be deemed and waiver or limitation of any right, remedy or cause of action of any kind, all of with are hereby expressly reserved to our client.

    Yours sincerely,

    Martin Webber

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Lol Nicodimwit

    And what exactly have i said to you or about you that is false? Ummmm nothing, unless you want to argue argentinas claim to sovereignty in court that contradicts that of british claims (though i dont think your goevernment would be pleased about that since they wont even goto the ICJ). Oh and the way, finanically i am a very very well off, so id be more than happy to take this case on, in fact, would you like me to start consulting my lawyers, or shall i contact mr webber first, who has no website that i can find on google (strange that for an international letter).

    You do know that falsifying legal documents is unlawful and in some countries a criminal offense.

    So bring it on NicoDimWit hahahahahaha LMAO

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @124Nico-why did you call yourself NicoDim and not NicoDin? Can it be really so, that you are in fact, Dim? We have long suspected that.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @126Isolde

    LMAO, i spotted the same thing after i had posted. I guess he really is Dim, either that or the name i have given him sounded so good he decided to being christened NicoDim. Or, even better, his so called lawyer (imaginary lawyer in my opinion) agrees that Nico is Dim also lol.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    well we agree in sth. monty i cant imagine you being argentine or southamerican either. you are isolated and dont share nothing in common with the region. my country claims sovereignity, nothing about the people. i dont like the british, you look very unfriendly to me and the more far away you are from argentina for me the better.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    good you pirate we don’t like you either,
    your claim is theft you know it we know the world knows it.
    your claim is crap, you speak to the wind, farting all night
    why don’t you sod of back to Argentina the land of no hopers, reply with your rubbish ..
    the only reason you don’t like the British is because your jealous,
    so stick that where the sun don’t shinnies

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @128malen, l believe you said in an earlier post that you are living in Liverpool UK.
    lf so you are happy to reap the benefits of living in Britain(as opposed to just existing in Argentina) but still have the nerve to come out with “l don't like the British”
    lf this is so, then l invite you to leave.
    Your country can claim all that it likes, but it has NO rights in the Falklands.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    He wont leave the UK, as it would abuse his human rights.
    Then again if he is in Argentina, then he would like to come to the UK .
    so that HE can claim his human rights,

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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