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Argentine yacht calls in Stanley en route to Mar del Plata and Buenos Aires

Wednesday, February 23rd 2011 - 12:13 UTC
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A yacht flying the Argentine flag and on route to Mar del Plata from Ushuaia called in the Falkland Islands last Friday.
The ‘Shaman’ yacht arrived in Stanley from Tierra del Fuego on a short visit with a crew of two: the owner who is also the captain and his partner. Read full article

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  • Beef

    Now i do think this is a bit of a pointless story. I don't get media coverage when I go to Florida on holiday (thank the lord).

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Now i do Think,as Mr. Beef does, that this is a bit of a pointless story.
    I don't get media coverage when I go to Zihuatanejo on holiday (thank the Lord and Mary, Mother of God).

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • estg

    It is not an average traveler story, as pointed by the other members, unless you are suggested to remove any national sign after arriving to your destination when you travel abroad.

    The FIG suggestion (hopping it was a suggestion indeed) sounds kinda reasonable, considering the backgrounds involved, and I am glad to hear that there was no argument about that; but I can´t help wondering what would have happened if they refused to take their flag down.

    I truly hope this ends as an isolated episode, nothing else.

    Cheers.-

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    I get far more news worthy items in the local Town Cryer than this! From the looks of it this ground-breaking news story was too ground-breaking for penguin news to handle :)

    I do hope the couple enjoyed their stay looks like they got a free souvenir out of it as well....

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    The point of this story is to illustrate us the state of the mental situation of the isolated kelpers.... “concern and anxiety” because of a flag flying in a yacht is not a normal situation...a psychiatrist is needed in Pto.Arg.

    PD: Now I understand why is so frequent to find stories talking about mental health in FINN site.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    So what happens when a Falkland Island yacht arrives in Buenos Aires flying the desire flag......?

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    1833: expulsion of Authorities and native inhabitants. 2011: Intimidation to Argentinean navigators. Then they complain that they call it imperialistic or pirates. They not even thanked since to the navigators for their attitude they didn't want to look for problems for tamaña discourtesy of demanding to lower the flag.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    “So what happens when a Falkland Island yacht arrives in Buenos Aires flying the desire flag......?”

    Nothing, only friendship.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    ^ Lol.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    So Billy thats why Argentina forwarded a motion in Merscour declaring the Falkland Islands flag to be illegal?

    ....That doesn't look to me like friendship.

    Raul please prove that they were intimidated oh wait you can't :)

    Once again a relatively minor story has descended into accusations of intimidation and mental problems and evil islanders etc etc from our rather infantile friends from Argentina Billy and Raul...

    pathetic!

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    “1833: expulsion of Authorities and native inhabitants”

    Expulsion of native inhabitants is a lie. Only one person at the time was native born, José Simon, son of Jean Simon and Carmelita. He was 2 or 3 years old at the time, and he stayed, as did his parents, and most of Vernet's settlement. Only the garrison was expelled. Jean Simon was later murdered by Rivero and his gang.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    ”8 Billy Hayes (#)
    “So what happens when a Falkland Island yacht arrives in Buenos Aires flying the desire flag......?”
    Nothing, only friendship.”

    Pig's arse.!!!

    'A $US6000 dollar fine' is the correct answer.

    What this little story tells us is that Falklanders behave like civilised human beings... unlike thuggish RG brutes...

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    Did the yacht comply with decree 256?

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AndrewG

    I hope they were made to feel entirely welcome.

    People like this unwittingly embarrass the Argentine government, and we in turn must shame them with kindness.

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • estg

    12 Frank

    Would you care to elaborate, please?

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frase

    In other news - Falkland Islander loses keys but eventually finds them down the side of the sofa

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Arrive in Argentina from the Falklands without the 'correct' paperwork... ie the RG paperwork whereby you acknowledge that the Falklands are RG territory ... and you are in seriously deep and expensive shit... 'RG government goons ' would be a better description of the people you have to deal with ... flows off the tongue a bit better...

    The fine is actually $US7000....

    Feb 23rd, 2011 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • estg

    ^^
    I had no idea about that; thanks for the info, Frank.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    17 Chuckle Chuckle

    Poor Frank the Yank...........

    I told him, in here, months ago, not to sail from BUE to Stanley without permission.
    Apparently he didn't listen.....
    $US 7.000 is cheap to disrespect a Country's laws....
    Wonder what the penalty would be in the USA if you sail without permission to Cuba?
    Waterboarding maybe?

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    http://www.righttotraveltocuba.org/defending/victories_vs_travel_ban

    ”Frank was fined $10,000 for going to Cuba to visit a sick relative. Ordinary travel-related spending for visiting family members is permitted under a general license, but when Ms. Frank made a second trip to Cuba to visit the same ailing relative...

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Twink, as I stated at #20, you don't know where I am, who I am, where I come from or where I am going,
    Suck it down , sunshine.

    Feb 24th, 2011 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Continue with the customs of Onslow...

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    dab14763 (#)
    The expulsion of native inhabitants is a lie. Only a person in the moment was native born, José Simón, son of Jean Simón and Carmelita. He had 2 years or 3 old years in the moment, and he stayed, like he/she made to their parents, and most of the payment of Vernet. The garnish was only expelled. Jean Simón was murdered later by Rivero and its band

    It is useless, the same problem always, has hearings but he/she doesn't want to hear, he/she has eyes and he/she doesn't want to see. He/she doesn't want to see the nature and the context where you originates the conflict. It is completely true, native inhabitants' expulsion versus British Imperialism. Read the Former minister's Exhibition in advance Mr., Cisneros:

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/19/falklands-malvinas-controversy-minds-closed-indeed

    “The usurpation of the Malvinas in 1833 was thus not the isolated or spontaneous initiative of an obscure Captain Onslow any than the two invasions to lives Buenos Aires in 1806 and 1807 - there were orders from on high, obeying to plan of planetary dimensions to restrains strategically important be-lanes worldwide. It happened to Gibraltar, for example, and it happened to us with the appropriation of the Malvinas to control the strategic Strait of Magellan. There was nothing fortuitous but rather the manifestation of an imperial project repeated in many parts of the world. The Malvinas disputes cannot be understood without reference to this framework.”

    Also have the courtesy of reading the following link.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/19/falklands-malvinas-controversy-minds-closed-indeed

    Thank you

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Rolly - how could Britain 'usurp' the Falkland Islands when Britain already owned them ? What a strange idea.

    Gibraltar was ceded in perpetuity (forever) by a Treaty following Spain LOSING a war! No usurpation. Compensation :-)

    Conspiracy theorist are you ?

    Idiota !!

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    Redhoyt (#): it doesn't become nervous, read well, go to the link and he/she will understand it. The arguments end and the insults begin. It is not necessary that insults me, simply say that not this of agreement and he/she will understand each other. Thank you.

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    @ Raúl, They do not take the trouble to read a source other than the British, Cisneros unmask the liar of Pepper.

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    Yes, Cisneros, lets hear some more, this time backed up with real evidence and original sources, not supposition, assumptions, lies, references to other unsubstantiated works, or outright invention, come on we're waiting for something you could put in front of the ICJ...

    Lets not hold our breath though eh...

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    Malvinense 1833: It is true, regrettably it is this way, Cisneros really made a very good synthesis. Will it be for that reason that Mercopress, of British tendency, do I eliminate the Web in version in Spanish language?.

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    @29 Raul
    Your use of the English language is interesting to say the least.
    Synthesis = The synthesis solves the conflict between the thesis and antithesis by reconciling their common truths, and forming a new proposition.
    Unfortunately, as Argentina doesn't know what truth and evidence really is, and never presents anything but lies, how can Cisneros ever logically produce a synthesis? Saying that he does is lie right there.
    You RGs really do pile the crap high don't you.

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    It is very simple. The islanders ask your government in London to bring the case to the ICJ.
    And Argentina will disappear from their lives. Of course if London win...

    Feb 25th, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PomInOz

    Malvinense, try to absorb this into what passes for your brain this time, please: it is not up to the UK to take the case to the ICJ, but it is up to Argentina (which doesn't accept the jurisdiction of the ICJ, by the way). The UK has control of the Islands. If Argentina believes that she has a better claim to the Islands than the UK, then it is up to Argentina to make the application. Argentina is the applicant. Think about it this way: if you were injured in a car accident, it would be up to you to make a claim for damages in a civil case, not up to the driver of the car.
    Argentina claims to be the injured party in this case, so it is up to Argentina to make the claim to the ICJ. That's how the law works.

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    PomInOz, thats not how it works in Argentina, you forgot to mention all the bribes to officials and witnesses, the false evidence, the false expert witnesses, the ignoring of any real evidence because it happens to get in the way, and everyone lying through their teeth.
    The analogy regarding the car insurance claim would really throw them, since no-one has insurance.

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    PomInOz, thanks for your explanation. I said this because if Argentina is so upset, they may ask the case to the Court. (U.K.)
    In addition they have done with Georgia and Sandwich Islands, Argentina did not accept because does not included the Malvinas.
    It means they can re-apply, but UK does not include islands in the jurisdiction of the Court.

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    Argentina can't take a claim of Sovereignty over British Territory to a British High Court, it doesn't have jurisdiction over the matter.
    Argentina has to take your Sovereignty claim to the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
    You are either the most naive person on the planet, the most indoctrinated person on the planet, or incredibly stupid, you choose.

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    “ ... but UK does not include islands in the jurisdiction of the Court...”

    And your evidence to support that claim is what? The UK is committed to the ICJ's jurisdiction publicly so it is ARGENTINA that is refusing to take the case to the ICJ. Cowards hiding behind lies.

    Marvin/Rolly - Cisneros has answered emotionally like a woman, no evidence, no references, no background ..... and no substance. I'm beginning to realise that it is something to do with your spanish blood. The logic of the Greeks eludes you.

    The most frustrating thing with these articles is the sheer lack of intelligence amongst the majority of the Argentine contributors .... it even shows in Cisneros' work. An adherence to rhetoric and not facts!

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    And Pepper? their strongest argument is the Desert Campaign and the Indians. You should know that American history was changed forever with the arrival of European man.
    It's amazing the forced attempt to end, to relate this to Malvinas and justify the usurpation of his country pirate.

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    When will you manage to string a sentence together that makes any sense?

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    @And Pepper? their strongest argument is the Desert Campaign and the Indians. You should know that America history was changed forever with the arrival of European man.
    It's amazing the forced attempt to the extreme, to relate this to Malvinas and justify the usurpation of his country pirate.
    sorry, Wireless

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “might cause concern and anxiety to some members of the Falklands’ community if it was left flying during their stay”

    Christ on a cracker, can you be more insecure? Racist? Stupid?

    Well actually yes you can be, the idiot 'captain' docking in Puerto Argentino, requesting permission to the pirates .

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Well Martin YOU did invade the Falklands and subjected the Islanders to military occupation which is fairly unpleasant and traumatic for a relatively peaceful society.

    And then let us not forget the continuing and increasingly irrational irredentist claim...

    The low level intimidation....

    Symbolic anti-Falkland Decrees.....

    Re-naming their own towns....

    Denying they exist....

    Not recognising their own democratically elected government....

    But also you do claim their own country and say that their opinions don't matter :)

    Off course their only being irrational and insecure....and big benign Argentina who hasn't done a single thing to warrant such Racist outbursts.

    Speaking of irrational and insecure...which country recently bleated and wailed like a lost sheep when the UK conducted its tri annual missile test fire in the islands? Didn't this country claim that a 6km ranged missile might land in Argentina LOL :)

    Argentina is the pathetic insecure one unfortunately.

    The captain of that yacht aware of the strained relations between the two peoples was being polite and courtesies....I don't think he deliberately set out to go and be a hero of the Motherland and defy the nasty evil customs men and have an avenue and town in Argentina named after him...

    God what kind of a world do we live in Martin when people are polite and respect each other and do simple non-threatening gestures as sign of their respect?

    You really are a tool!

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Snr Martino certainly is(a tool, that is).

    Feb 26th, 2011 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “Not recognising their own democratically elected government....”

    Can one of you experts explain to us, the savages, how an “overseas territory of the UK” which of course has no sovereignty as a state, have its own government?

    They're just a colony, they may have officials, police, servicemen... but that's it. No government of its own, no control, no constitution, no independence.

    “Status: British Overseas Territory”
    http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/country-profile/south-america/falkland-islands

    Overseas territory: A dependent territory, dependent area or dependency is a territory that does not possess full political independence or sovereignty as a State. http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/country-profile/south-america/falkland-islands

    colony
    a. A group of emigrants or their descendants who settle in a distant territory but remain subject to or closely associated with the parent country.
    http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/country-profile/south-america/falkland-islands

    Malvinas is not a country even by your own definitions. Sovereignty, overseas territory, colony... very simple concepts, very clear, very specific.

    You people are demented.

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    This boarding customs is much like adolf hitler customs where jews ended up being forced to wear a david star, I wonder what would happend in Malvinas Argenina during a world cup celebration. while some old dictator are being forced to run in Libya and Egypt new dictators bunker down in other parts.

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Dodging my question, are we?

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    From your link:

    “A colony is mostly ruled by another state or can be run independently. Unlike a puppet state or satellite state, a colony has no independent international representation, and its top-level administration is under direct control of the metropolitan state.”

    Pretty much sums it up. Label them as you wish to be honest, it makes no difference.

    Colonialism was ended because it was no longer right for nations to rule other people against there democratic right to determine there own future, largly brought on over the way the nazis treated people in ww2.

    And rightly, forced colonialism was over the next 50 years was pretty much wiped out.

    If a group of people wish to still retain close ties to the country that bore them, there is nothing wrong with that at all.

    Colony implies that there is a forced situation like it used to be in the age of colonialism which is why they have mostly chosen new names to represent what they are, because the relationship has changed, with the times.

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    It's the UK that has them labeled as an overseas territory.

    They will NEVER be a sovereign state, not ever. If you throw words around like “my country” and “our government” you're always gonna get a laugh, nothing else.

    It's that simple.

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @47Martino, what business is it of yours how we run OUR country?
    lf we want to be a colony, an overseas territory, a kingdom, a republic or a state, its got nothing to do with you or your interfering country.
    You are the one who is demented & also frustrated because you can't get your own way.
    We do not have to satisfy your definitions of a country, so get lost boyo.

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “Status: British Overseas Territory”
    www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/country-profile/south-america/falkland-islands

    Whatever... Kelper Kingdom of Royal Bullshit and Ireland

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    “They will NEVER be a sovereign state”

    Why not Martin? What is to stop them? They are perfectly entitled to become independent if they want to. That is their right under the UN Charter and a number of other UN Security Council resolutions. There is nothing Argentina can do about it. In fact, as a signatory to the UN Charter, Argentina is obliged to support the Falklands in this.

    However, judging by the deafening silence from Argentina when Gaddafi is bombing and killing his own civillians it's obvious that human rights is not really a priority for Argentina...

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frase

    The Falklands will become a sovereign state, even if Argentina did somehow manage to gain control, they would just win their independence from them.

    Re: Gaddafi. What he's doing is clearly abhorrent and despicable, though I don't think that Britain can do too much moralising, given that whilst he is killing and bombing his own people, we're in the region flogging weapons....

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Martin I do have other things to do on my weekends besides arguing with semi-lunatic amateurs such as yourself on Mercopress of all places :)....So don't be offended if I find answering your arguments a lower priority than re-gravelling the drive and walking the dog :)

    “How an “overseas territory of the UK” which of course has no sovereignty as a state, have its own government?”

    Because it has a population who elect representatives to govern on their behalf you tool!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Falkland_Islands

    They even had an election nugget brain!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Falkland_Islands

    “No government of its own, no control, no constitution, no independence”

    A government of its own (democratically elected): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Falkland_Islands
    A constitution of its own (democratically enacted): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Falkland_Islands
    Oh yes, did I forget to mention a very very generous degree of autonomy independent in everything except defence and foreign affairs, so pretty much independent and self-governing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Falkland_Islands

    Overseas territory: A dependent territory, dependent area or dependency is a territory that does not possess full political independence or sovereignty as a State.

    “colony”

    Did you also miss out the second definition of a colony dumkompf?

    “A colony defines the complex charecteristics of a territory which is forced into an unequal economic and social relationship with the Metropol, who primarily use the colony to exploit raw materials”

    Very simple concepts to understand if you have a brain and bother to read and do research..Unless of course your an Argentine muppet, and you just create your own ideas and definitions about the Falklands.....

    I notice dead silence on my other points Martin LOL!

    thus in conclusion your a demented tool, here is £5 go get yourself educated dumbkompf

    Feb 27th, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    United Nations,Article87

    Freedom of the high seas

    1. The high seas are open to all States, whether coastal or land-locked. Freedom of the high seas is exercised under the conditions laid down by this Convention and by other rules of international law. It comprises, inter alia, both for coastal and land-locked States:

    (a) freedom of navigation;

    (b) freedom of overflight;

    (c) freedom to lay submarine cables and pipelines, subject to Part VI;

    (d) freedom to construct artificial islands and other installations permitted under international law, subject to Part VI;

    (e) freedom of fishing, subject to the conditions laid down in section 2;

    (f) freedom of scientific research, subject to Parts VI and XIII.
    Article92

    Status of ships

    1. Ships shall sail under the flag of one State only and, save in exceptional cases expressly provided for in international treaties or in this Convention, shall be subject to its exclusive jurisdiction on the high seas. A ship may not change its flag during a voyage or while in a port of call, save in the case of a real transfer of ownership or change of registry.

    2. A ship which sails under the flags of two or more States, using them according to convenience, may not claim any of the nationalities in question with respect to any other State, and may be assimilated to a ship without nationality.

    Feb 28th, 2011 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    It seems that people get their kicks from point scoring on the internet and the Argentine / Falklands situation appears to be one of those litle kicks for some demented Argentine people. I see from 43 Martin_Fierro (#) that we aparently do not have a constitution. Sorry but we do and a very good one at that. As for dependant territory. Once apon a long time ago we used to depend on someone else but not any longer because we have a system in place that is making enough revenue to be self supporting. We have a huge tourist industry, a viable fishing industry and the best part of all is that we are very likely to have a super duper oil industry Ha,Ha

    Mar 01st, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    50 J.A. Roberts,

    If they ever become a sovereign state, the UK will run out of excuses to keep its armed forces on Malvinas. Not that we should give two shits about 4 stupid typhoons and a bunch of faggots playing Rambo with the sheep... but the idiot Kelpers probably feel protected.

    But this has nothing to do with the Kelpers and it's not just about Malvinas, it's also Georgias, Sandwich del Sur and Antarctica which are all claimed by the UK.

    It's the UK trying to expand their EEZ 350 miles out, it's the UK trying to add Malvinas to the European Union, not the idiot Kelpers. Remember? ;-)

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    you really are a prize idiot, Martino. Since there is no such place as the malvinas, l'd say“dream on”.
    And the UK is not“trying”to add us to the European Union. lts up to us, not you, if we want to join or not. Your silly country has no say in the matter.
    The UK is not“claiming” South Georgia or South Sandwich lslands etc, the UK already owns those islands and your country does not.
    But, snr Martino, you do give“two shits” about 4 Typhoons etc, because they could vapourise anything that you have.
    lf you feel so brave, why don't you try for round 3? will you be leading the first assault? or will you stay safely at home hiding behind your computer?(and let others do your work).
    you are the “ldiot”not the “Kelpers”.(careful, Cher Think was trying to build a federal case out of this word).!

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “If they ever become a sovereign state, the UK will run out of excuses to keep its armed forces on Malvinas”

    Wrong - if the islanders were a independant nation and asked us to stay and our government agreed there would be no reason why they could not start.

    “Not that we should give two shits about 4 stupid typhoons and a bunch of faggots playing Rambo with the sheep.”

    .. i seem to remember your airforce getting eaten alive by much older aircraft. Typhoons would eat your airforce for breakfast.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    The Argentine airforce still have 24 FMA IA 58 Pucará's which apparantley are attack aircraft. ROFL ! Brigadier-Major Normando Costantino hopes to have some fuel and money for his airforce soon. The SAS eat 6 Pucaras, 4 TMC Mentors and 1 SkyVan transport aircraft for breakfast on Pebble island

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    I don't even think it would come down to having to send in the SAS, a tomahawk in the middle of an airstrip puts it out of action for weeks.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Nearly snorted my coffee out my nose when I read Martins post this morning it was just that funny and deranged! If ever there was a reason why Argentina should not have our South Atlantic territories it is this nob-head:)

    “If they ever become a sovereign state”
    -So now you have downgraded “never” to “if” haha lol!

    “UK will run out of excuses to keep its armed forces on Malvinas”
    -If that day comes, it is because Argentina will be a negligible threat, did you just think that garrison just manifested by magic for no reason?

    “Give two shits about 4 stupid typhoons”
    -Somebody gave a shit numbskully :)
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2648901/Argie-fury-at-jets-on-Falklands.html

    “Bunch of faggots playing Rambo with the sheep”
    -Says the faggot playing rambo with the keyboard!

    “Idiot Kelpers probably feel protected”
    -Seeing as your govt has ruled out round two..yes!

    “Nothing to do with the Kelpers”
    -Oh no? and how has a demented keyboard rambo Malvinist whose never been to the islands figured that one out?

    “It's not just about Malvinas, it's also Georgias, Sandwich del Sur and Antarctica which are all claimed by the UK”
    -No shit Sherlock!, ps not “claimed by the UK”, its actually spelt “owned by the UK” :)

    “UK trying to expand their EEZ 350 miles out”
    eeer? Expanding it out where nugget? East, West, North, South? Isn’t that the nutty claim made in that ridiculous website you seem to get most of your Falklands info from? According to that map we were meant to have conquered all sea up to the coast of Patagonia by 2009……Still waiting ☺

    “add Malvinas to the European Union”
    -You make that sound as if that’s a bad thing, Falklands have been subject to EU legislation since the 70’s when the UK joined the EU, anyway aren’t you trying to add the Falklands to Merscour?

    You're a prize tool and a dumkompf, you make the mud on the bottom of my boots look clever hahah!

    ps Martin the silence on my other points is deafening ☺

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    BTW Did no one spot the obvious?

    It would be “illegal” to even enter Argentine waters flying the Falklands version of the red ensign. To do so, we are told involves a fine of $7000 for “not having the correct paperwork” and the “correct paperwork” requires that the owner signs a paper that denies their rights to his birthplace.

    An Argentine drops by the Falklands, barely a ripple and polite request that they don't fly the Argentine jack as thanks to Argentina's invasion of a peaceful island community and 30 years of bullying its none too popular.

    No doubt if there was to be a Falklands yacht in an Argentine harbour it would be invaded by Malvinistas and vandalised with the demand it be put in a “Malvinas museum”. I mean look what they did with an Argentine owned vessel, in an Argentine harbour.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    how do you reason with deluded malvinistas? morons all.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    55 Martin_Fierro (#)

    It's the UK trying to expand their EEZ 350 miles out,

    The extension applies to the continental shelf not the EEZ. The EEZ will remain at 200nmi. And yes, the UK is trying to extend its continental shelf. In the area of the Celtic Sea and the Bay of Biscay, along with Spain, France, and Ireland. The 4 put in a joint submission for the area

    The UK also put in a submission for the Falklands and SG&SSI because they, not being independent states, can't do it for themselves. The submission for the Falklands is for the benefit of the Falklands.

    ”it's the UK trying to add Malvinas to the European Union, not the idiot Kelpers. Remember? ;-)”

    The UK is not 'trying' to do anything. The only Overseas Country and Territory (OCT) of the UK that is part of the EU is Gibraltar. None of the others are. This has been the same situation since 1973 when the UK joined the EEC. Nothing has changed.

    61 JustinKuntz (#)
    And, under Decree 256, if the vessel weren't vandalised by malvinists, the Falkland Islanders would need permission to return to their own country.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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