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US, UK and France begin bombing Libyan military targets following UN resolution
The US, UK and France on Saturday began attacking Libya as enforcement of the UN-mandated no-fly zone gets under way. Pentagon officials say the US and the UK have fired more than 110 missiles. Read full article
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Mar 20th, 2011 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's all about oil.
1 Fido Dido,
Mar 20th, 2011 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt.
shutup morons, oil ouput from libya if halted wouldnt make any change, just another example of argentina's pointless effort on the UN
Mar 20th, 2011 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0^ ^ ^
Mar 20th, 2011 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You got to like to those kool-aid drinkers.
Too much sugar by the looks of it.
Mar 20th, 2011 - 04:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0He was never a friend, just someone who had to be dealt with in the processes of world diplomacy. I suppose you two idiots would happily watch him exterminate his own population. Now when this is all over and if the people get to form their own government then there is a good chance that it won't be pro-Europe or the West. But what is being done to protect them is still the right thing.
Mar 20th, 2011 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't say I supported Gaddafi, did I? Neither did Fido Fido as far as I can tell.
Mar 20th, 2011 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only two idiots I see here are DrainCock and you RedHot.
I actually agree Gaddafi needs to be brought down, but that isn't the reason why the benevolent souls of the US, the UK, and France intervened. They simply jumped at the chance to control Libya.
The people in Libya have the right to choose their own government, lets hope this doesn't play out in the same manner as it did in Iraq.
Fido “Yesterday he was your friend, today your enemy.”
Mar 20th, 2011 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Without a doubt.
“Tony Blair is still a ‘good friend’ of the Libyan dictatorship and should broker a deal to keep it in power, according to a son of Colonel Gaddafi‘
He is peacemaker in the Middle East, and should be able to use his talents for peacemaking here. We need his diplomatic skills now as we set about crushing our enemies.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360472/Libya-Gaddafis-son-asks-Tony-Blairs-help-crush-enemies.html#ixzz1H7BekXdt
“shutup morons, oil ouput from libya if halted wouldnt make any change, just another example of argentina's pointless effort on the UN”
Mar 20th, 2011 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, it would change. Libya is a major oil exporter. If its oil output is halted, you can expect oil prices will skyrocket.
Redhoyt clown, neither didn't I type that I support Gaddafi. Martin is correct, you're an idiot with bad teeth.
Mar 20th, 2011 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Now when this is all over and if the people get to form their own government then there is a good chance that it won't be pro-Europe or the West. But what is being done to protect them is still the right thing.”
F*ck you, seriously cut the crap. No one here was ever sleepless about the people in Libya being pro european, free of Gadafi, or thought about protecting them. Just be honest that you're stupid or just can't admit that it's all about the oil.
Marcos, yes, Tony freaking liar blair..their good leader who is now working for JP Morgan Chase. Now he's hiding under his desk. Let's not forget, he allowed that those terrorists could go home so that BP could drill there, but ohh no, not one word of those so called patriots with bad teeth about that. They know it's true and are ashamed of it, but can't admit it here or somewhere else. Let's also not forget Patty Obozo (Obama), he was once also called by Gaddafi, “he's like a son of me”.
Isn't that great with those rats.
Forget --- Fido /
Mar 20th, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enhancing Oil Prices and holding has being very productive natural,neccesary part of notably present Global Strategy action !
Note/ French Rafale jets have been producing independently from
Europe technolgy process.
Note/ There is no any people in Libya,has many tribes.forget democracy.
Coalition Powers can't make land war in Libya,needs to have a new
UN security council decision !..the Opponent Powers can knock Kaddafi
down in time actually right away .
Filo Didi - you are full of sh*t. It would seem fr0m your posts that you actually support Gadahfi ... poor lost soul, without a brain !
Mar 20th, 2011 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do not worry, the European's will sort it out ... as indeed we would sort you out if necessary
Gagafhi's
Mar 20th, 2011 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0destruction of opposition,
his 'disapearences' and
his torturing
are an affront to civilized people everywhere.
Just imagine if such a thing happened in your country.
Wouldn't you be pleased if the world community of nations asked 'your baddy' to stop,
and if he/she didn't, did something about it.
How pleased you would be !
“I didn't say I supported Gaddafi, did I? Neither did Fido Fido as far as I can tell. ”
Mar 20th, 2011 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Redhoyt clown, neither didn't I type that I support Gaddafi. Martin is correct, you're an idiot with bad teeth.”
He didn't say either of you two did in his first post. Clearly, you're the idiots.
“Redhoyt clown, neither didn't I type that I support Gaddafi. Martin is correct, you're an idiot with bad teeth.”
Mar 20th, 2011 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahaha, Fido you started a new war and all bad teeth Englishman are popping out like popcorn.
I don't know - do populations thank the UN for interventions to stop them being killed, tortured, etc?
Mar 20th, 2011 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People are so contradictory . . . . and there is a school of thought that says if there is potential for the cure to be as bad as the illness, just let the illness run its course (the Pol Pot / Ruanda / Stalin / Mao / Argentina school of thought). . . . . . only pulling your leg with the last example - Argentina's madness was (numerically) small beer compared to the other ones.
GeoffWard, What a surprise! You forgat to mention Britain in your list, the worst of all.
Mar 20th, 2011 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Heart of smugnessUnlike Belgium, Britain is still complacently ignoring the gory cruelties of its empire”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/jul/23/congo.comment
Martin_Fierro.
Mar 20th, 2011 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clown he was never the friend of Britain, how could he be when he sold arms to The Irish terrorists to kill and maim British person in shopping malls and pubs along with our soldiers. He also sold arms to the Spanish terrorists to kill Spanish and tourists, not to mention the killing of Police woman Fletcher and the downing of the aircraft over Lockerbie.
Some times though in the event of diplomatic niceties we have to deal with monsters until they once more the mask slips.
But then I don't expect you to understand seeing that your country gave birth to so many monsters of your own, you know the ones I am on about don't you, the ones that gave sanctuary to German Nazis, the ones that ordered the killings of parents and the kidnapping of children, the ones that even now would invade the Falklands and kill and turf out the legitimate people that live there.
So don't lecture us about Gaddafi we have every right to bomb and get rid of him at long last, we call it retribution and revenge.
Marcos Alejandro.
Your treading on thin ice when you talk about Britain's complacently in ignoring cruelty's when you have never done anything about your own country's cruelty's when you murdered and plundered your way through the true people of Argentina, the people that were there long before you even thought of occupying or even sailing to that part of the world. But then I would not expect you to say sorry or even acknowledging what you did, its just not in the nature of your people to do what you expect us to do is it.
Filo Didi - you are full of sh*t. It would seem fr0m your posts that you actually support Gadahfi ... poor lost soul, without a brain !
Mar 20th, 2011 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Redhoyt, by reading your comments, you need glasses. Go to your government sponsored eye doctor and dentist.
He didn't say either of you two did in his first post. Clearly, you're the idiots.
Wrong Zethee, clearly you're showing here that can't read and don't understand your idiot friend redhoyt.
Here, read what clown redhoyt typed:
“I suppose you two idiots would happily watch him exterminate his own population.”
That is an indirect comment that Marcos and I support general gaddafi.
You can spin your government actions in whatever you want, My god, Some US citizens, English people aren't only ugly, but also retarded and Hypocrites.
Oh i SEE, so watching someone now means supporting them? Or is it in just this example?
Mar 20th, 2011 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The rest of the world who are not getting involved, by your own definition now support gaddafi. The world makes so much more sence now, thanks.
The cheap and childish insults are amusing, clearly something's getting to the both of you.
18 Britishbulldog “and the downing of the aircraft over Lockerbie”
Mar 20th, 2011 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what happen after that? You Government released the terrorist that destroyed that plane with 270 civilians and send him back to Gadaffi, in order for Britain to gain oil deals.
No wonder Hitler was such an enthusiastic admirer of Britain's empire, which he described as an “inestimable factor of value”.
Wooaaaahhhh, boys ???????
Mar 20th, 2011 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so many questions so many answers.
the world knew nothing of the British subs , sitting and waiting.
the world was shocked at how fast the French struck.
most of the countries are helping with bases, but Gibraltar not mentioned
their has been a lot of activity their in the last few days, we will never know what happens behind the scenes, but many lessons will be learned
like the criteria to receive arms, Mr Blair sold to the Libyans that was still in operation up to a few days ago, but this is all politics , there are other reasons why such a force is in the Mediterranean seas,
the French and British bases in the middle east is seeing activity.
more is yet to come I think .mm
Marcos,
Mar 20th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you fail to understand what the Ghadaffi issue is about on this posting.
We are talking about KILLING YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
So the issue are:
- would Argentina be easy or uneasy about their president killing Argentinans, and
- would the Argentinans being killed be pleased or upset if an outside agency working for the good of the world (UNSC) stepped in to stop the president killing his/her own people.
This has happened in the UK in centuries past - like when England and Scotland fought for FREEDOM (Braveheart, etc), the IRA and the UDA fought over sectarian rights/religious primacy, the Church and the state fought over primacy (Henry/Cromwell). In such an ancient land it would be surprising if it were otherwise.
But here we are talking about 'modern' leaders killing their own people.
And, in one sense, I have to forgive Argentina's Spanish past - the modern peopling of the Americas resulted in erradications of the indigenous by diseases to which they had no developed immunity. The reverse trade in syphlitic disease was much less potent in mass extermination though many (rich and poor), including Churchill's father, succumbed.
The Asiatic and African British Empire was much more resiliant than the Americas . . . . . . .
but all this is history - we are talking NOW AND RECENT PAST. Ghadaffi, Saddam, Milosevic, etc are our modern villains, and we should be thankful there is a supra-national agency to control excessive murder of nations' own peoples.
[ purely a scenario ]
Mar 20th, 2011 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if Argentina again got a bad government, who started to slaughter its own people again, [its possible]
and the UK offered help would you ?
or would you except American help/Brazilian help/
would you/wouldn’t you ??
What a waste of time, and so much hate!
Mar 21st, 2011 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The reality, AND NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO DENY IT:
Ghadaffi, Saddam, Milosevic, are/were “bad” dictators.
Mubarak, the Yemeni, Bahrain, the Arabian kings, Pinochet etc. are/were “good” dictators. The same applies to anything else, from heads of state democratically elected, to terrorists (euphemistically called freedom fighters, or insurgents) IT ALL DEPENDS WHERE THEY ARE WITH US OR AGAINST US. You can all cut the CRAP.
18 Britishbulldog,
Mar 21st, 2011 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Clown he was never the friend of Britain”
I don't give a shit who he was a friend of, I never said anything of the kind.
6 Redhoyt,
“I suppose you two idiots would happily watch him exterminate his own population.”
And my response was: “I didn't say I supported Gaddafi, did I?” Because I don't.
What in the hell is wrong with you people? Are you completely brain-dead?
Aedi, etc.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0let me re-phrase -
If any modern dictator - Ghadaffi, Saddam, Milosevic, Mubarak, the Yemeni, Bahrain, the Arabian kings, Pinochet etc. - were to start seriously murdering their people . . . . . . .
and now, if the same thing now started happening in YOUR country:
- would you be easy or uneasy about your president killing the people? and
- would YOU and the people being killed be pleased or upset if an outside agency working for the good of the world (UNSC) stepped in to stop the president killing his/her own people?
The second question is the key one, and relates to the attitudes of the Libyan populace threatened by both the problem and the solution.
I find that 'thinking myself into the situation' crystalises the issues for me.
For a dictator to kill large numbers of his/her own people demands that those about to be killed are first dehumanized or demonized through propaganda.
Ghadaffi has done this by citing 'Outside Forces' and al Quaeda - surprising really, when the USA was explicitly available for demonization.
Ok, they're on retard-monologue mode, let them rant for a while.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0GeoffWard, Can you repeat please? :-)
Mar 21st, 2011 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shock therapy might help, go take a bath... drop your toaster in Geoff, you'll be ok.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fido Dido- you love bringing down the British, don't you?
Mar 21st, 2011 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Going on quite a bit about their evil past. That we're retarded or have bad teeth or what ever, Also now we are hypocrites?
l believe that you said that you come from the Netherlands.
Well your own colonial past is none too glowing either.
l lived in lndonesia and they still hate you“Belanda”.
You left in 1949, time heals you would think, not there. The Dutch treated the local people like crap. Why do you think they so eagerly greeted the Japanese as liberators?
When they learn a European language, they learn English. Only some old people speak Dutch. So you should pull your head in a bit.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
GeoffWard, thank you
Mar 21st, 2011 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you put it a lot better than i did, in my basic scenario,
but i don’t think some argie bloggers understood you,
but you are ok by me, good job.
but you wont get a decent answer, would they except help or not .
Let us not be concerned with the Argentine/South American posters. After all, Britain has just proved, yet again, that it can reach out to wherever it needs to.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Libya/Gaddafi. Argentina/Kirchner. What's the difference? Just remember, British submarines launch Tomahawk cruise missiles. British Tornados launch Stormshadow cruise missiles. In either case there is one result. Total obliteration. Something Argies might want to try to remember.Whatever you think you can do, when the need arises, we kill. Dead. Try to remember. We can do this!
Isolde, are you british?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway,
you love bringing down the British, don't you?
No. That they are ugly and have bad teeth is a reality.
That we're retarded or have bad teeth or what ever, Also now we are hypocrites?
Yes. Because we all know it's about OIL (let's not forget, the UK has major investments, thanks to Tony Liar Blair, in Libya, two letters, BP, how about France, four letters, TOTAL. To be more fair, even my country has interests there, Germany though behind the scenes they are for it, but in front of cameras, against it. Now, some british teethless clowns here claim to defend Libya for human rights? Lol..give me a break and spare yourself that crap.
Yes, I'm from the Holland, great nation who did some crap in the past.
l lived in lndonesia and they still hate you“Belanda”.
Oh really, good for them, though my country is still doing business with them. Big deal is they hate us.
The Dutch treated the local people like crap. Why do you think they so eagerly greeted the Japanese as liberators?
Yes, my old old old old old old government and the Dutch who were living there, treated the locals like crap. False, they were neither waiting for those fascists from Japan who mistreated locals + the Dutch people like crap.
In Indonesia they now learn English. yes and so what, what's your point. I doubt they also like those teethless brits.
Ghadaffi, Saddam, Milosevic, are/were “bad” dictators.
Mubarak, the Yemeni, Bahrain, the Arabian kings, Pinochet etc. are/were “good” dictators.
Agree, but you forget, From Nixon to Potato head Patty Obozo “Obama”, Liar blair, Cameron, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Van Rumpuy and many more, are “great good” leaders (Hypocrites).
@34 Fido Dido,
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0lf you had read a lot more posts on here you would know my nationality.
l have only heard it from you, a not very reliable source, that the British have bad teeth and are ugly.
You are one of the biggest hypocrits l have encountered. You brush off your country's evil colonial past but want to crucify the British for theirs. One rule for the“Herrenvolk & one rule for the rest, ja?”
You are also insulting,“british teethless clowns”- (should be toothless).
Do your countrymen still make insulting Belgian jokes?
Yes, trade or not, they still hate you in lndonesia because of the arrogance of the Dutch & what you did to them. They, of course did not realise that the Japanese would treat them badly also. However they still initially greeted the Japanese as liberators.
Finally,dear Fido, they hate you so much that they learn English because they do not want to learn Dutch. You left in 1949, and still wounds have not healed.
That is my point.
British Teeth
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JTgM0d79T8
Fido @ 34:
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“....in Libya, two letters, B-P, how about France, four letters, T-O-T-A-L. ”
Hummmmm ;-)
@37 Geoff, yes l picked that up too, but l thought that l'd scorched him enough so didn't mention it. l see he hasn't returned. Didn't like a few home truths. l've ran into a lot of his type before. A lot of British people are not that worldly wise. They are too busy trying to make a living & just surviving. So you get these semi-educated foreign“intelligensia” who try to take advantage of this. Confounds them when you know more than they do. l once had a conversation with a Dane who kept on about“you evil British & how we had slavery etc etc” He went very quiet when l told him that we abolished slavery in 1833, but they still had it in the Danish West lndies until 1848. He knew it was true but thought that l didn't. Poltroons!
Mar 24th, 2011 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since you are correcting the numbers of letters in TOTAL ...“intelligensia” spells inteligencia, thankz bery much.
Mar 24th, 2011 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He went very quiet when l told him that we abolished slavery in 1833”
Sure, after sending three million Africans by force across the Atlantic.
Yes, yes
Mar 25th, 2011 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0All British have bad teeth
All French smell like garlic
All Germans are humourless (with mullets)
All Argentines are cheating sexists (also with mullets)
All Dutch are too high to know what's going on
All Mexicans are lazy
All Yanks are as thick as pigshit
All Irish are drunk
And all Brazilians dance samba instead of walking
Glad I could clear that up
@39 Marcos, Dear Marcolito, intelligensia is spelt as l spelt it. Maybe you spell it your silly way in Spanish. l neither know or care.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who knows how many slaves were sent across the Atlantic but rest assured Spain(your ancestors,yes?)were up to their greasy necks in it too.
Another hypocrite.
I see the comments section has descended to the usual mindless gibber jabber.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, Isolde @ #38 - we find a lot of the disaffected, frequently unemployed, university-drop-out types posting on BBC online. It is common to all nationalities. Characteristically their typing-finger moves faster than the brain, hence the mix-up of thoughts and spellings - the need to vent the spleen is just so great.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PS Poltroon - historically, one of my favourite denigrations!
(41) Carissima Isolde
Mar 25th, 2011 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IntelligenTsia is “nearly” spelT as you spelT iT.
You just forgoT a “ T ”, sweeTy......
You should read some more Russian :-)
Signorina Isoldita, “intelligensia is spelt as l spelt it” Wrong again bella! again ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Mar 25th, 2011 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 Think, -thank you Cher Think, for correcting me. l made a spelling mistake. l am not your sweety however & l do read some Russian, although not as much as l would like.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 Marcos, l was wrong in my spelling, but so were you. The Spanish word that you gave me meant “intelligence” not “intelligentsia”.
And to you also, l am not a signorina & l am not your Bella.
Dearest Isolde
Mar 25th, 2011 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry………………Couldn’t let the opportunity pass to pinpoint the blemish that makes you perfect :-)
BTW…..
A very personal question from a perfect angler to another perfect angler
What is your absolute favorite game fish?
Gideon Osbourne tells us there's no money left, so we have to have cuts which hit the poorest. Then Cameron decides to have an adventure in Libya.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems there's actually plenty of money.
There's not enough money for the poor, but there's always money for wars (and bank bailouts).
48 - The cuts are ideological. The whole 'we're in this together' bullshit would be laughable if it didn’t detrimentally affect so many people. There are 2.5 million unemployed in Britain at the moment, and to punish them at a time when jobs are scarce is sick.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course the sort of budget deficits that we've been running are unsustainable, but shaving a few quid off benefits is a drop in the ocean compared with Barclays getting away with paying 2.4% corporation tax.
That said I can see the case for the intervention in Libya, in stopping what would be a massacre in Benghazi, although my support (not that anyone with any power cares about my support) would dwindle if it does turn into all-out war with ground troops deployed for a number of years.
Think (47)/ Isolde “. . . . .A very personal question from a perfect angler to another perfect angler. What is your absolute favorite game fish?”
Mar 26th, 2011 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! fisherpersons!
My hobby also, but poor beach fishing here - warm water, inside the reef, small fish, just possible to feed a family with a rod& line. Occasionally something BIG snatches the bait and heads off for Angola. Shark? Who knows?
That's the magic of fishing -
- not forgetting the magic of watching the sun go down and the sky turn pink/mauve over jubarte and tartarugas just off the surf.
Welcome to the new “Libya”
Mar 26th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8407260/TUC-protest-march-live.html
International leaders, don't turn your backs on us, help us fight this brutal regime!
Mar 26th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you're blue and you don't know what to do
Mar 26th, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why don't you go where money sits,
Puttin' on the Ritz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOU5X8-sBTk
And this less than a year after taking office.....
Mar 26th, 2011 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately, scenes like this give Murdoch the opportunity to give the impression that anyone opposed to the cuts is basically a terrorist, and these scenes will dominate the news rather than any debate about the cuts
For goodness sake make no mistake.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The boys in blue know exactly what to do.
No fly zone in London next?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47Think, l do not do very much fishing these days Cher Think. l do not classify myslf as a keen fisherman although l have caught a few. PNG & lndonesia were great for fish. Mainly Golden Trevally & Mackeral.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The first fish l ever caught was in Oslo harbour. A touristy thing, the crew filleted the fish and cooked it for me.
l am now ashamed to say that l have also eaten whale in Stavanger. Only a little bit and it was very tough.
So l am not a perfect angler by any means.
Isolde, “not a perfect angler”
Mar 27th, 2011 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0surely you mean 'not a Compleat Angler'
And remember, Isaac Walton never even saw a Trevally, so he was far from Compleat himself. . . . . I think he meant that he was 'fulfilled' as a humanbeing through the pleasures that angling brought to his life.
I have this fulfillment.
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