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Chavez blasts alliance bombing Libya; signs agreements with Uruguay
Venezuela’s president Hugo Chavez said on Wednesday during a press conference in Montevideo that the Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi “is doing what has to be done, resisting an imperial aggression” and added that “it’s not anticipated that he has plans to leave Libya”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“you can’t respond for what he does in his country”
Mar 31st, 2011 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0This sums it up and gives the game away. It is not “his” country.
It's not NATO's either.
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Mar 31st, 2011 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/3504
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Have NATO claimed to own Libya then? I must have missed that.
Mar 31st, 2011 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, Gadaffi cannot attack the rebels in his country because it is actually not his country. But Nato can attack the Gadaffi forces in Libya. I was just following your reasoning.
Mar 31st, 2011 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The coalition enforcing the UN Security Council resolution has not killed any civilians which makes such a claim ridiculous. What we have done is prevent a slaughter of innocent people. I suppose Chavez think such a slaughter is acceptable.
Mar 31st, 2011 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a nice man.
Your logic and reason have run away with you. I was simply pointing out the anomaly in the thinking that Libya somehow belongs to Gadaffi.
Mar 31st, 2011 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NATO, specially Britain and France are bombing Gaddafi to protect their oil deals and gain control over Libyan natural resources, they couldn't care less about the civilians, remember what the americans and Brits did to Iraqi civilians? . Not to mention that until a few weeks ago the British government love this dictator.
Mar 31st, 2011 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”not even if the president of a country is the worst scoundrel on earth can you justify that a group of countries begin bombing and killing innocent people in the name of peace” (Mujica).
Mar 31st, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this really what you/people/Mujica/Chavez/Castro think?
Do you really believe that the United Nations Resolution said 'We create a no fly zone . . . but, shhhhh, the real reason is so we can go in there and kill innocent people in the name of peace'.
No, of course not.
But, as usual, it is politically important to locate all your heavy armament - that needed to put down the opposition to Gadaffi -
in school grounds,
next to the hospital A&E,
in the entrance hall of a mosque or church,
next to a treatment centre,
adjacent to foreign embassies,
behind a press hotel,
under a maternity wing,
etc, etc.
The politics of the game - learned from Hammas and Hizbulloh - is to GET PICTURES of collateral people injuries ('suffering' is much better footage than 'dead'), and to then franchise them worldwide via al Jazeera news network with the 'correct' spin and propaganda.
Or perhaps Mujica doesn't know this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ib6wL55EoM&feature=related
Mar 31st, 2011 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some people here a born so dumb, you get tired of them explaining how brain dead they are.
Mar 31st, 2011 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0franchise them worldwide via al Jazeera news network with the 'correct' spin and propaganda.
Al Jazeera + Qatar = US ally.
Why isn't their a “no fly zone” in Bahrain where they corrupt sunni royal tribe shoots on it's own people who are majority shia?
There is oil there to, but but but Bahrain + US = Ally for The fifth fleet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Fifth_Fleet
Why does Patty Obozo gives weapons to the “unknown” rebels?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Fifth_Fleet
Is mainstream media finally getting it's act together to stop the spin or just began to spin it more?
#7: “I was simply pointing out the anomaly in the thinking that Libya somehow belongs to Gadaffi.”
Mar 31st, 2011 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, this is Arabic North Africa, where historically the countries REALLY DID belong to the ruler or warrior chief that was strong enough to win and hold them.
Gadaffi is one such warrior chief .
That seems an anomaly to 'The West', but it is the rule rather than the exception in the lands where warlords and dynasties of kings, sultans, etc have owned and ruled the physical land and its peoples since before Muhammad, ṣall Allahu ʿalayhi wa-’ālih.
The problem comes when the peoples of such countries/fiefdoms decide they want to live by 'Western' rules involving democracy.
You cannot defend the indefensible, of course people are saying [rightly]
Mar 31st, 2011 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why is not the west stopping other dictators from slaughtering its own people, and again we can all argue over that one, and oil will play some part in it, but if you are going to be sheriff then you have to stop all bad countries, not just the ones that you think you should help. as this is not fair on the innocent people of the countries that are not getting help.
But having said that, Britain even before this conflicted arose , had its own problems, and cutbacks, but of course no matter how poor you think you are, there’s always enough money in the kitty to do what politicians’ think we should do, all im saying is half the world thinks we are finished and the other halve think we are stupid to cut back so severely,
yet every time a problem crops up, they ask the British to help [among others]
perhaps we should have said, get on with it, and may the best man win, someone suggested today, that it would again be ironic if we again get military equipment to the rebels, and in a few years time they turn on us, and use them weapons again our troops, this guy quoted the west [including the UK ] arming afghan -Iraq -Iran -Somalia-quiet a few African countries, then years later they use them against either us, or other countries, but that’s only his opinion, mine is not far off, its an internal problem, and a Muslim problem at that,, let other Muslim countries step in and help them.
that just my opinion.
Uhmm, why did the Federal Reserve (a Private Bank) bailed out a Lybia owned bank?
Apr 01st, 2011 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fed-bailed-out-libya-owned-bank
We don't want to arm the people,
Apr 01st, 2011 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0we don't want to intervene on the ground,
we want Ghaddafi to stop killing his people,
but we promise not to harm Gadhaffi and his family.
Some problems here - not least, collateral damage to civilians by having to protect the population from the air and from a distance.
Why not just ask Gadaffi to stop killing his people?
. . . . . . . . . . With the explicit understanding that, if he does not, he and his family will be killed - not stoned to death, but cleanly shot through the head.
All nice and civilised.
And it opens the way for free and fair elections with UN Observers - an election that Gadaffi may in fact win.
In which case we respect the wishes of the majority.
Pragmatic democracy in action.
“Why isn't their a “no fly zone” in Bahrain”
Apr 01st, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm no expert on Bahrain so feel free to correct me if im wrong. But as far as i know, He's not bombing civilians with fighter jets. What exactly would a no fly zone do?
Also isn't the whole reason the riots in Bahrain started because troops from UAE and Saudi Arabia turned up to help?
Would more foreign troops helpthe situation?
As for the libyan troops from al-Qaeda. It's not much of a shock. Same thing happened with lots of the IRA after the troubles. Joined the French foreign legion and are now fighting with the British troops they once fought against.
He's not bombing civilians with fighter jets. What exactly would a no fly zone do?
Apr 01st, 2011 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also isn't the whole reason the riots in Bahrain started because troops from UAE and Saudi Arabia turned up to help?
False, if you did your homework, you would understand that it's for the same reason like in Egypt or Tunesia, riots. People are uppressed by a corrupt royal dictator while the people are starving.
But it's leaders are also killing / shooting it's citizens (Where is the outcry for the “humanitarian” help..but oh wait..they are our ”allies..and yeah..also Saudi Arabia..right?
Get real, the whole thing doesn't make sense at all.
So he's bombing his people, Because i've tried searching for some info on his fighter jets bombing civilians but i can't see to find anything do you have any links?
Apr 01st, 2011 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, so the foreign troops aren't the root of the problem. Are they helping? If not how would us sending troops help?
If they are helping, How would us sending troops help further?
Both my questions are still valid and still stand. I fail to see how troops or even a no fly zone would help.
How would us sending troops help further?
Apr 01st, 2011 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Won't help, but only would cost the broke tax payer in Europe and US more money.
QE1, QE2, created this crap, now see where it's going and Mr. Bernanke is already thinking about QE3 when QE2 ends in June.
Fido, it seems awfully like you're avoding my questions.
Apr 01st, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Both my questions are still valid and still stand. I fail to see how troops or even a no fly zone would help.”
Also you claimed how i was wrong about him boming his people, atleast you made no distiction between him bombing his people and the foreign troops in his country causing the problem.
Perhaps you could comment more on this, i'll gladly admit when im wrong. Will you?
You've still not answered the questions.
Zethee I did answered one of them that answer most of them and I answered one with a question if you can read.
Apr 01st, 2011 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee, I DID NOT CLAIMED how you were wrong about him boming his people. Here you go again.
Zethee, troops on Libyan ground would be a mistake.
Why? NATO nations don't have the money and some are streched out in Afghanistan. They can afford it with the printing press on, but they won't do it, because for some it's almost election time, while the people are ANGRY (Austerity measures and food inflation if you do not believe the FED, but know they are full of shit)
Zethee, haven't you still figured out the NO FLY ZONE is complete BS?
And since when are you sooo concerned about the people in Libya, huh? watching to much BBC or ITV? Get real, I never cared, still don't because it's our business to be there, it's a civil war, it's THEIR civil war, we should not be there. Second, neither did you or do care. Of course you will type today..ohh of course, but those are poor people and bla bla bla.
Do your homework better and you'll find out yourself that's all about the oil and investments there. Again, why is the so called west quiet about YEMEN, BAHRAIN and find it great, but not a peep about Saudi Arabian troops who shooting on “protestors”. Isn't that strange that we don't hear anything about that in the news?..what about Ivory Coast..(oh wait, there is only coco there, but greedy Sarokozy said something about it, but not concreet if their will be FRENCH troops there..of course not)
Do your homework Zethee..stop playing video games.
Hello, My name is Paulo, from Sao Paulo, Brasil.
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have a question, what does this have to do with South America?
Oh Zethee, remember, no troops on Libya'n grounds..correct?
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/05/rebels-capture-oil-port-pro-qaddafi-forces-defending-opposition-held-city/
but of course according to the papers it's only escort a “diplomatic team” that will talk with the rebels. who are those rebels again?
Hello, My name is Paulo, from Sao Paulo, Brasil.
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have a question, what does this have to do with South America
Paulo_Sullivan //hi paulo
the answer is I have no idea,, welcome to the most least understandable blog in the world, its fame spreading by the day.
Hi Paulo & Brit,
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0these are position statements from Uraguay and Venezuela - similar to those many made by S.A. countries on the recognition of Palestine.
Valid in a Mercopress press release listing, and worthy of blog comment.
How would a no fly zone help in Bahrain?
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unless you have the resources and full support, then any no fly zone will soon come to an end, and that’s a fact, and as much as i hate to admit it, the UK has neither resources’ or sustained back up ,to last by herself,
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK Bahrain doesn't use fighter planes & bombers against its civilian population but at least if NicoDin gets his no fly zone over Bahrain some civilian passenger jets might get shot down.
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We all know Qadaffi likes to see civilian passenger jets downed - he even makes the terrorists who down them national heros.
If it pleases Qadaffi it will presumably please his allies and recipients of the Qadaffi Prize for Human Rights - Chavez (2004), Castro(1998) and NicoDin (2011).
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