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EU ‘animal well being’ group warns about Mercosur livestock conditions

Wednesday, April 13th 2011 - 18:17 UTC
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The Eurogroup for Animals called on the European Union to demand from Mercosur farmers associations and governments the same ‘animal well-being’ requisites and regulations which their European counterparts must comply with. Read full article

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  • Fido Dido

    Eurogroup for Animals My arse...Those NGO's should be cut off quickly from the tax exemption. Ugh, those idiots really can piss you off.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    Oh this is a new one! I've seen the conditions in the USA, and I've seen cattle estancias in Uruguay and Argentina, and I can tell you the animals are living MUCH better in the Southern Cone, than USA at least. I haven't personally witnessed EU's conditions, but they already allow US meat.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HaveToCorrectThisRetard

    I gotta be honest, I don't think this woman has even been to Mercosur. She's completely talking out of her arse. Horse meat is still really only sold/consumed in Chile, not Mercosur. And the animals raised on the estancias here have a MUCH, MUCH better life than most in the the USA, and most nations. This is an absurd accusation, and she should provide hard facts, and come view the situation for herself.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    The EU will resort to just about any thing as a mask to their protectionism.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    NO South American crap in Europe. Dump it in your own sea. We don't want it!

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Duglas

    I agree with the above posters. I'm down here and the animals are well cared for, certainly better than in the empires.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    4 Look we have the highest food standards in the World and we don't want your manky meat. Protectionism doesn't come into it.

    6 Rubbish!

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    7, Be serious, Stop typing BS and do your homework to be taken serious. Those bogus high food standards are just a scam to keep on collecting our tax money (subsidies). We Europeans should know that the Eurogroup for animals is a joke, similar like the dutch political extreme left Partij voor de dieren, where they put animals above human beings.

    *they should abolish their tax examption (without it, they are nothing)
    * they should get rid of all silly subsidies that keep prices high and what is bad for European consumers.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HaveToCorrectThisRetard

    Don't worry about Typhoon and Be Serious.
    Not only are they just mad about their failing UK economy, and spazzing online because of it, they also have no say in what happens with the EU/Mercosur trade agreement.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    8 Well you took me seriously enough to reply. Fact is we don't want crap South American meat in the EU. Chomp away in Turkey or wherever the f--- you come from but don't start telling us what we have to do. Got it.
    9 Resistance is growing to any kind of sell out to Mercosur. France and Ireland are leading the way and its only a matter of time before we decide what we want and you boys can either take it or leave it.

    I have to say that I fail to see why we should lower our standards to accommodate anybody.

    And with that GSY.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol @ this guy ^
    you sure are mad
    and you DON”T have any say in the EU/Mercosur agreement, only your corrupt politicians do, and they'll simply do whatever is in their own best interest. So if any of them have invested personally in companies abroad, in Mercosur, they'd very much want to see the deal proceed, as is probly the case.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    “The group said that the EU must eradicate all possible animal sufferings” Sonja van Tichelen if you want to eradicate all possible animal sufferings then stop eating animals. Otherwise, stop complaning about animal suffering.
    Vegetables are a lot better, and you can't hear a tomato crying.
    http://nutritionwonderland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tomato.jpg

    http://nutritionwonderland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tomato.jpg

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    @Be serious

    No, you don't have the highest food standards in the world. You have mad cow disease, which you exported to the rest of the world. You also have draconian legislation on food imports as a mask for your protectionism. That's all.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit86

    @Be serious

    If Europe - as opposed to European farmers and protectionistic politicians - doesn't want Mercosur foodstuff - which, unlike UK meat, never caused international health crises - then what do you fear? If Europeans don't want to eat Mercosur food, then they won't buy it, and EU farmers won't be affected by market opening. So why not just open your markets? Aren't Europeans and Americans ALWAYS telling us Third Worlders about the wonders of trade liberalization? Well, then, just open your f*cking markets. Competition is good, isn't it?, and in this case it will also allow British consumers to buy healthy meat that isn't contaminated with bizarre diseases such as the Mad Cow Disease which you spread to the world.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    @ Be Serious bad teeth idiot, gosh most brits are dumb f# idiots and ugly. I'm Dutch (living overseas, and not in South America) and you, bubble head, need to travel more outside your bubble. Second, who the heck is WE? We in your bubble head is for sure not the people in Germany, Luxembourgh, Belgium and Holland (where they complain about importing grain and GM grain meat from Ireland while their good quality grass fed meat is going to Spain). Those nations where the smart people are also import from South America, so their consumers have more choices. The We you are typing about here are idiots who have no clue what kind of crap they are eating (grain and GM grain feed cattle), but just believe the propaganda from clowns who can't compete while feeding you with garbage. That's why, in the UK and Ireland, they have the highest number in the world with mad cow disease cases. Don't believe me? Nah, of course not, you're to stupid to do your own homework. In Generall, south american cattle are grass feed cattle, what is expensive but better and healthier. Cows suppose to eat grass, not GM grain what is cheap, makes the cow fatter faster but is a high risk for the people. Not my opinion, but many experts (and I'm not an expert on beef) around the world have repeated, grass feed cattle is better (Even Mcdonalds and BK in the states import grass feed beef from South America). You and buffoon typhoon the virtual pilot need to study more rather than typing here propaganda what is being told inside the bubble you both live. Green fascist and liar van Tichelen from Belgium and her gang, should also do the same, travel, learn, then b*tch about it or not, and also try to be fair (non biased) what is hard for those clowns.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    13 You don't have the highest food standard in the World - Oh yes we do.
    You have mad cow disease - Oh no we don't.
    Which you exported to the rest of the World - Oh no we didn't.
    You have draconian legislation on food imports - Yes, to keep our standards the highest in the World
    As a mask for protectionism - Wrong again see above.
    14 The fear is having inferior meat products dumped in our markets undermining our own high standard agricultural industry and spreading disease. New Zealand and Australia provide high standard meat products so why can't you. We don't tell 3rd World Countries to do anything, we actually subsidise their agriculture and try to help them wherever we can. You say “just open your f*cking markets” which really is a joke coming from the likes of you.
    So in conclusion glad to have got your attention but please keep your manky meat and we'll keep our high food standards.
    Sorry 15 no time or inclination to read or reply to your rambling silliness. GSY.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Mad cow disease had its origin in Britain. To say “we don't” and “we didn't” is a rather dumb and inefficient way to argue against a world wide known fact. British meat has caused international human health crises - Mercosur meat has not. Ergo, there's no factual evidence for your argument, that Mercosur exports would cause quality in European foodstuff market to drop. If anything, they would instead offer European, specially British, consumers healthier options.

    I'll repeat: YOUR meat has caused international health crises. Ours has not. If you really want to argue agains this fact - that our meat products are of superior quality to yours - provide instances where international health crises have been caused by Mercosur products. Since all four Mercosur countries are big food exporters, that won't be hard if our quality standards are really that low, huh?

    I won't even address your comments that you try to strengthen agribusiness in the Third World. From previous exchanges with you, I have already realized that you're that typical Westerner who buys everything your government says about committment to human rights and prosperity abroad no matter how much facts on the ground contradict that self-flattering propaganda.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    We don't need to argue or prove anything. You want access to EU Markets? You want to sell your food products to European Consumers? So the onus is on you, the would be seller, to clearly demonstrate that your produce is to our required standard. But a word of advice to say “open your f*cking Markets” is really rather dumb and then to resort to silly insults indicates that you know you've lost the argument already. So I repeat keep your manky meat and sell it to Countries with the same low standards as Argentina.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    “You want access to EU Markets”

    No, *I* don't want anything. This Mercosur-EU is a two-way street. Both blocs want to reach an agreement -- but the EU wants to do so on its own terms: it wants to protect the least competitive sector of its own economy, the agribusiness sector. We Latins and Third Worlders have already seen this twice:
    1 - WTO Doha talks: Europe and the US gang up to demand from the Third World that it implement trade liberalization for manufacturing. The Third World, led by Brazil, India, South Africa, and China, said it would do so only if the First World also liberalized agribusiness trade. The First World said it wouldn't, and WTO talks have been stalled ever since.
    2 - The FTAA: the US wanted the Free Trade Agreement for the Americas to liberalize trade for manufactured goods. But Latin America, led by Mercosur and Venezuela, said it would only do so if the US retributed the gesture by liberalizing agribusiness trade. The US said it wouldn't. Conclusion: the FTAA has been buried ever since.

    It's not only Mercosur that wants to trade with the EU. The EU also wants to trade with Mercosur. But - like the First World in the case of the Doha talks, and the US in the FTAA affair - it wants to do so in a way that benefits itself ONLY.

    And I haven't been offending anyone, cease being such a doll. You're the one who first came along using a self-important, aggressive rhetoric. I just retributed by pointing out the fact that your country has been exporting diseases that kill people, while ours have not.

    “We don't need to argue or prove anything.”

    Of course you don't. That would be self-defeating, since what I've been saying all along - that Britain exports crappy, diseased meat - is a fact that can proved with a 20 secs Google research. :)

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    So to cut a long story short we are agreed? - You keep your manky Argentine meat and we'll keep our first class, high standard, food products.
    There wasn't difficult was it. huh?

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    First-class indeed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4967480.stm

    And no, *I* have no problem with each bloc being on its own. But enterpreneurs and government officials from BOTH blocs will keep pushing for something.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Wow, 2006 that was a long time ago. Things have changed a lot since then. And you would seek to take us back to all that with your manky Argentine meat products. No thanks.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    A 10-year ban on British meat products, and from its own EU colleagues. That must have been humiliating.

    And 2006 is not “a long time ago.” How old are you? ten? And perhaps we'll soon be seeing something similar in the near future: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/mad-cow-disease-fears-hit-uk-after-claims-of-older-cattle-entering-food-chain/story-fn3dxity-1226018670791

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    ”Almost two thirds of the raw chickens sold in the UK are contaminated with Campylobacter, which causes an estimated 300,000 illnesses and 80 deaths a year.”

    Chuckle Chuckle
    I suppose that december 2010 is also ”long time ago”
    ”First class, high standard, food products.”……….my left foot……

    ”Almost two thirds of the raw chickens sold in the UK are contaminated with Campylobacter, which causes an estimated 300,000 illnesses and 80 deaths a year.”
    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2010/12/new-plan-for-cutting-campylobacter-in-uk-1/

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    It was a terrible time and many animals had to be slaughtered to contain the disease. Although the ban ended in 2006, France continued the ban despite the EU Food Agency confirming that UK meat products were completely safe. So yes it was a very difficult time that ruined many of our farmers some of whom took their own lives.

    Humiliating? - Yes it was. You may take a childish pleasure in that but its the truth. As such and providing you're not too stupid you'll understand our concern not to go back to 1996.

    Your article only goes to show that we must be ever vigilant and resist allowing even more difficult to trace, sub standard, Argentine meat into the European market.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    ”Dioxin-contaminated eggs got into the UK and the Netherlands, and pork from farms suspected to have received the tainted feed was sent to Poland and the Czech Republic. Denmark, France and Italy were also thought to have received possibly contaminated goods. South Korean and China banned imports of German pork and poultry………..”

    Chuckle Chuckle
    I suppose that January 2011 is also ”long time ago”
    ”First class, high standard, food products.”……….my left foot……

    ”Dioxin-contaminated eggs got into the UK and the Netherlands, and pork from farms suspected to have received the tainted feed was sent to Poland and the Czech Republic. Denmark, France and Italy were also thought to have received possibly contaminated goods. South Korean and China banned imports of German pork and poultry………..”
    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/01/eu-team-to-follow-up-on-german-dioxin-scare/

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Ah Chuckles.... just fresh back from your wrong assumptions, lies and strange ideas about democracy.......... Anyway pleased we are talking again after your long sulk .... we are talking aren't we?

    Anyway allowing manky Argentine meat into the EU would simply complicate our strict and complex regime of ensuring food safety. The fact that these matters are reported, made public and dealt with shows our determination to maintain these very high standards.
    In essence, we agree, you don't want our agricultural products for the reasons stated above and we don't want yours. Simples... you keep your crap and we'll keep our First class, high standard, food products as certified and enforced by our meticulous Food Agencies.
    The Customer is always right - can't argue with that.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    “300,000 illnesses and 80 deaths a year in the UK”

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2010/12/new-plan-for-cutting-campylobacter-in-uk-1/

    “Can't argue with that”
    Chuckle chuckle......
    What a Turnip!

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    You are reading but you are not taking in Chuckle cheeks.
    Fact is that UK and EU are taking steps to rectify problems where they exist. You seem more interested in denigrating the UK and EU. Why's that? Typical of an implanted Argentinian though you don't want to discuss the Argentinian foot and mouth out break in 2006 which according to you isn't very long ago. Why's that then?
    Hmm let me see do we want to import Manky Argentinian meat with foot and mouth? Nah you keep it.
    “Cant argue with that ”
    Chuckle chuckle...
    What a supercilious Argentinian tool!

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @28
    Darwinism At Work Think,of course no Argentines die or get ill from food poisioning

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4402026.stm

    Consumers can play a part in tackling Campylobacter by avoiding cross contamination from utensils that have been in contact with fresh chicken meat, not washing poultry before it is cooked to avoid spreading germs, and by cooking chicken meat thoroughly, the agency noted.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    European ”Food Policy” since the 70’s……………………………:

    Antibiotic use in food animals – for treatment, disease prevention or growth promotion – allows resistant bacteria and resistance genes to spread from food animals to humans through the food-chain.
    The use and misuse of antibiotics have resulted in the development and spread of antibiotic resistance.
    This is now a significant health problem: Each year in the European Union alone, over 25 000 people die from infections caused by antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
    http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/136454/e94889.pdf

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Nice links, Think. :)

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    :-)

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46666

    Shocking.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Nobody is discussing poverty or sanitation, @Be serious. We're discussing food quality in Mercosur vis-à-vis the EU and how perceptions are shaping the two blocs' negotiations. Your text has nothing to do with that subject, and that you have to resort to mud-slinging is a proof that you don't have arguments for your case. And no wonder! The links Think brought about show that the quality of British food products is worryingly low.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Oh c'mon tit don't give me that old crap.
    Read on and see the section about the shit Argentinians are putting on their fields - disgusting.

    The links tool put up only demonstrates the high standards imposed by the EU's food agencies. One of the links by the way referred to Germany.

    British food products are first class and subject to the most demanding standards in the World. Argentina's food products are not. And thats being nice.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    @Be frivolous

    The issue is still the same I posed previously: British food has caused, and is still causing, health crises at home and abroad. Has Mercosur products ever provoked anything similar in seriousness and proportions? If you can't show that, then you should get off of your high horse and accept the fact that British meat is not first class. Even if UK legislation is tough on this respect, the **many** cases of British diseased meat being consumed by the British people or exported to other countries is a *proof* that your food producers and the agencies that watch them aren't seriously observing those “demanding standards.”

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Well it aint argie food killing these second class Citizens

    Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    Since when Mohamends know what is quality, safe standards on food or good service?

    Is this any kind of joke?

    They eat burned burgers, greasy kebabs (where the meat some times is spouse on the streets all dirty) and smelly fish & chips made in oil being use for 3 months.

    Haha

    Be serious in his restaurant selling kebabs see the picture please.

    Not much to say about the BS said by declining Ukistani who live in 3er world standards, I guess...

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23433275-its-not-safe-to-walk-the-streets-after-dark-admits-home-secretary-skewered-in-kebab-farce.do

    Be careful when you ask from your fellow Moham Be seriuos’s Kebab restaurant your meal...

    “Terrible service

    Do not order delivery from this place.

    We ordered, a large doner meal (that came with fries and a drink) and a medium cod, fries and drink meal. It took about an hour and 30 mins to arrive, the food was cold and they'd forgotten the chips. I then phoned back and complained, an asked them to send the chips and another cod as we physically couldn't eat ours, and someone said they'd be sending it right away. Another hour passed, so I phoned up again, this time the person on the other end had no idea what I was talking about, no knowledge of the order, and said that everyone that was working earlier had gone, and that there was no delivery driver working anymore. So we basically paid £9 for a couple of cans of coke, a completely cold kebab (with the wrong sauce on as well) and a cold soggy piece of cod we couldn't eat.

    Disgraceful. “

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Is paradoxical that somebody whose nickname is Be Serious can write such a complete selection of foolishness.
    Trying to argue to somebody like him is a waste of time.

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    750,000 of your fellow argies could do with some cold kebab (with the wrong sauce on as well) and a cold soggy piece of cod

    BUENOS AIRES, Feb 21, 2011 (IPS) - Despite years of strong economic growth, record harvests and massive social assistance programmes, there are still places in Argentina untouched by the boom, where child malnutrition has even claimed lives”

    Given that I study the impact of cash transfers on hugner, it's probably not surprising that I found this passage especially interesting:

    the Health Ministry reports that 750,000 children and teenagers under 18 still have problems of under-nutrition.

    http://zerohunger.blogspot.com/2011/02/argentina-pockets-of-child-malnutrition.html

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    37 The unfortunate events that beset the British meat industry, which you take great pleasure from, provoked a series of measures to safeguard public health. These have been in place for a number of years and confidence in our meat industry is now high. Certainly problems have been discovered and corrected but this is the whole point about having these ever vigilant Agencies. We do not have the same reassurance with regard to Argentinian meat products. After reading about the Argentinian Foot and Mouth outbreak in 2006 and the Chemicals used by Argentinian farmers, I believe we should be even more concerned.
    40 Excellent contribution.
    41 Reports of Malnutrition in children on such a scale are always disturbing be it in Africa or Argentina. Very sad.

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @stick up your junta

    I think you need it more Moham and our 750k much less will eat that rubbish that you use to eat every day.

    750.000 it is less than 3 millions, Sticky mushroom head

    “Malnutrition affecting '3m in UK'
    Person eating
    Malnourishment costs £13bn a year in health costs

    People suffering from malnutrition - or at risk of it - in the UK stands at three million, experts believe.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7879201.stm

    When are you going to realize that you live in the 3er world?

    @Be Serious

    “Reports of Malnutrition in children on such a scale are always disturbing be it in Africa or Argentina. Very sad.”

    Yes of course especially in countries like Ukistan where the ignorant like you like to think they are above everyone but in reality they are like in Africa.

    Very shocking 3 million people in Ukistan been affected by malnutrition, it is like Africa mate. Sad very sad once a prosperous nation known as UK and to be proud of and now has turned into Ukistan an African nation style and full of ignorant.

    And please as Fido Dido had correctly said to you stop to talk about “we” because you only represent just Mohammeds. Shssss

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Dr Oscar Hillal, the deputy director of the children's hospital in Tucuman, said: “This is not Africa, this is Argentina, where there are 50 million cattle and 39 million people - but where we have a government which is totally out of touch with the people's needs.”

    In an astonishing admission, the production minister, Anibal Fernandez, last week attributed the child deaths to ”a sick society and a ruling class that are sons of bitches, all of them, myself included.

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    @Be frivolous

    The only reason why I relish pointing to the shortcomings of the UK meat industry is because you first reacted to the news Mercopress posted by making haughty and extremely provocative assertions about Mercosur food industry - an industry that never caused UK-style health crises, either at home or abroad.

    By the way, the problems in UK food production are far from over. You may have tough legislation, but you don't have tough surveillance.

    “Almost two thirds of the raw chickens sold in the UK are contaminated with Campylobacter, which causes an estimated 300,000 illnesses and 80 deaths a year”
    -- A late 2010 piece of news.

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @stick up your junta

    Aníbal Fernández never was minister of production if you are going to invent lies, at least make them look real.

    Aníbal Fernández political carrier since 2003

    Ministro del Interior de Argentina 2003 /2007
    Ministro de Justicia de Argentina 2007 / 2009
    Jefe de Gabinete de Ministros since 2009

    Again Sticky 750k cases in are less than 3 million in UKistan which is 4 times Argentina’s figures.

    Can you see how silly you are?

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Argentina has one of the lowest undernourishment incidences in the developing world. Let's not let the Brits distract us from the main issue - the low quality of their food products - by adducing selected stories about miserable people they don't really care about.

    http://www.ifpri.org/publication/2010-global-hunger-index

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    The EU has the most rigorous inspection and enforcement system in the World. Our meat products are the finest in the World with Welsh lamb and Northern Irish beef much in demand. Angus beef is renowned all over the world.
    You once again raise the issue with Chicken, I have no problem with that because this demonstrates our surveillance system is working perfectly and is made public. In Argentina it would be swept under the carpet.
    Argentina saying its meat isn't manky isn't enough. Introduce the same standards as exist in Europe and who knows the EU might open its F*cking markets. What are you frightened of?

    Apr 18th, 2011 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @47
    Argentina has one of the lowest undernourishment incidences in the developing world

    And you must be a very proud country,being a food exporter

    about miserable people they don't really care about.

    Argentina: Indigenous peoples forcibly evicted from their ancestral lands
    http://www.forestpeoples.org/topics/rights-land-natural-resources/news/2010/11/argentina-indigenous-peoples-forcibly-evicted-thei

    Nor most argentines

    Apr 18th, 2011 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Be serious

    What can I say....

    1- Argentina already exports to UKI, Spain, France, Germany, etc. without any problem around 10% of EU Hilton quota and also Lamb, etc.
    2- Argentina export production of Ovine products and products derived go to Ukistan 34%, Spain 28.63%, France 13.35%, Portugal 8.37%, Germany 3.98%, Belgium 3.80%, Sweden 3.16%, Italy 1.99% Ireland 1%, Netherlands 0.83%. Sources ONCCA and Agromeat.
    Here some consideration if you plan to sell food to Argentina.

    a) There are some regulations that must be respected when trading with Argentina.
    Perishable foods and drinks that must be refrigerated cannot be exported to the country, and also peaches.
    b) Argentina prohibits the importation of pet food containing ruminant origin materials from
    the United States and European countries and shipments are subject to species identification testing. The export health certificate must clearly identify such ingredients. Exporters are encouraged to check with their importer to verify labeling and import requirements. ..
    c) Argentina requires that a valid Authorization Notice have been issued. Argentina advises
    that the appropriate Arrival Notice must be submitted at least three business days before
    the merchandise arrives attaching the necessary
    documentation in compliance with the current import requirements....

    Here a rough 4 pages list, made by US about some regulations you have to meet when exporting to Argentina.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=es-419&q=cache:H_6QKuNwFxwJ:http://www.chilealimentos.com/medios/Servicios/Normas_internacionales/Norma_otros_paises/Normativa_Argentina/Food_and_Agricultural_Import_Regulations_and_Standards_Certification_Argentina_USDA.pdf+exporting+food+to+argentina+recommendation&ct=clnk

    to be honest I don’t think a trade agreement with Mercosur/Mercosul will be good for you. Because the 4 countries will invade you with food and other stuff what will make collapse your little industries there.

    Apr 18th, 2011 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Thanks for being honest Dim. I can't be arsed to read your links but apart from the fact you are a racist you're not that bad.

    You are of course quite right, Argentina already enjoys good access to European markets and Great Britain is actually championing Mercosur's cause for this to be widened further. France and Ireland stand in your way and are seeking to impose massive restrictions and penalties if a deal with Mercosur doesn't materialise.

    So much for “Right Tits” rather coarse demand that we open our “f*cking Markets” and her rather disgraceful insults about the United Kingdom. Dear me to think we are actually trying to help people like that.

    Still, all in the past, we are all friends now.

    Just noticed that in addition to being an open sewer, Argentina also had Foot and Mouth in 2001 and 2006. If my maths are right it looks like you guys are due for another dose. Hope not and of course if it did happen, I would be the last to take any satisfaction or rejoice at yet another self inflicted humiliation.
    GSQ

    Apr 19th, 2011 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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