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Falklands will receive another group of Chilean exchange students next September

Tuesday, May 10th 2011 - 20:46 UTC
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Another group of Chilean students from Punta Arenas will be travelling to the Falkland Islands next September in the framework of the exchange program agreed between city officials and Falklands’ authorities, according to a report in La Prensa Austral. Read full article

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  • stick up your junta

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    May 10th, 2011 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    They're called Islas Malvinas in South America, I don't see what the big deal is.

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    In actual conflict context you only receives 8 students per year to study english.

    In an eventual conflict-free situation Fkl/Mlv has the potential to receive a few thousands students from south america every year. (chilean, brazilians, argentines, uruguayans, etc).

    As I said here before, actual conflict is at kelpers cost.

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    I don't think anyone has any problem with that, Martin. Just like London is called Londres, and New York is called Nueva York and Beijing is called Pekin.

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    It's a tactic, they're all tactics to give your “Falklands” overseas territory the “positive” exposure it needs, and of course your only resort is Chile.

    “Mimica also revealed that last week he met with the British consul John Rees and Martin Longden Deputy Director of Overseas Territories to address the issue.”

    Just let your Overseas Territories Director solve the issue. ;-)

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “The Punta Arenas official said that he was informed that in Stanley there is a hotel that carries the name of Malvinas”
    Here we go again, Malvinas Hotel or Malvina?
    Anyway get use to it Brits, the islands name is MALVINAS!

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Who gives a stuff what you call it? It doesn't make any difference.

    I'm not convinced this visit will happen. My guess is that the Argentine authorities think we are as idiotic as they are and that we will insist on 'the Falklands'
    Once they realise that we don't care, they'll find some other way to interfere.
    Remember folks, you heard it here first.

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    And who gives a stuff about your “exchange student” plan?

    This Punta Arenas mayor is a clown, who knows what the deal is.

    “The children!” ....the children my ass

    May 10th, 2011 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Well your foreign ministry obviously cared enough to lodge a formal complaint last time.
    You're right; one would hope they had more important things to do than worry about a few children going on holiday, but apparently not.

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Call it a Malvinas holiday and maybe it'll fly.

    Maybe.

    But then the islanders will be opposed to it.

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    It's not “ass” Martin, it's “arse”. Oh, sorry, I forgot, you got implanted into the US and learned their version of English...

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    I told you J.A., Argentina does not claim the US. ;-)
    How old are you anyway?

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    You're not listening, are you?

    We aren't going to oppose anything. That's your gambit. And I bet your foreign affairs idiots do it again this time.

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Sounds to me as though the message from Chile over this is for Argentina, not the Falkland Islands. Good for you Chile, ignore the bully !

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “If they have to go to the Malvinas, well so be it, the Malvinas”

    Ok then, so be it.

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Fine...and when they go home the stamp in their passport will say 'Falkland Islands'

    QED.
    :-)

    May 10th, 2011 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Go on then... publish a copy of their passports, idiot.

    There you go Mercopress, a new assignment for you.

    Then come back and tell us it's all about “the children...”.

    May 11th, 2011 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    You still don't get it, do you.
    We aren't going to publish anything because we don't need to, and we aren't going to oppose anything because we don't need to do that either.
    All we need to do is behave like normal reasonable decent human beings and wait for you lot to disgrace yourselves. And you always do.
    As the man said, 'face bombast with reason'.

    May 11th, 2011 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Yup, true to nature- the Agr side rant and rave about how terrible it is and try to twist politics into young kids!
    Fact- Many Chileans use the name Malvinas in Spanish(I have no problem with that) and then they say Falklands when speaking in English. Perfectly normal.
    Funniest thing of course is that its a bastard Spanich translation from the actual French name Iles Malouines! The Arg cannot even think up a name of their own!
    And wether Arg likes it or not-FACT - is that more people in Punta Arenas probably use the words Islas Falklands than use Islas Malvinas, simply down to the long historical trade and culural connection between us. But who really cares - folks here dont - what we do care about is that politicians keep their little political twisted minds well away from kids of any nationality. And that is what Arg is guilty of.

    May 11th, 2011 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    The islands are called MALVINAS.

    That's it, you can't dodge it... and those Chileans can't dodge it either.

    Shame on you for using children to fuel your doomed, wretched colonial agenda, it's beneath contempt.

    May 11th, 2011 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    You're a prat, Martin.
    Cultural exchanges take place between schools in lots of different countries out there in the real world. There have been exchanges between our community school and schools in Chile for many years. Our kids go over there and learn Spanish and their's come over here and learn English.

    We aren't using children for anything. We are just giving them the same opportunities that children from other places get.
    It's only in your sad warped parallell universe that there is anything wrong with this.

    May 11th, 2011 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    I don't recall Argentina trying to prevent this “cultural exchange” from happening, we simply pointed out a mistake.

    Make the same mistake again, we'll point it again.

    May 11th, 2011 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Martin, your pathetic little twerp of a Consul in Punta Arenas did happen to get into a school there after the last visit to harangue innocent kids of Argentinas twisted version of historic reality. Rather feeble of the Chilean teachers to allow it admittedlyb but maybe it was the only way the twerp would shut up and stop ranting.
    Fact is most of you folks cannot allow any innocent normal event to happen without attempting to twist it in line with your warped mentalities. Like the nonpolitical rugby players who appear over here - and one of the kids who innocently went to play with them happened to be the son of the SAss, Governor - so headlines in Argentina as to who his father was!! - and its nonpolitical!!! - what arses!

    May 11th, 2011 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    It's our warped mentalities against your warped mentalities, but you're in South America and we call the shots.

    Kelper.

    May 11th, 2011 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Shots ! You can't afford the bullets, nor trust your military with them :-)

    And they are in the south Atlantic .... South America is next door :-))

    May 11th, 2011 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    25

    81 Monty69: “I've never said anything remotely like that. We are part of South America”

    82 Martin_Fierro: “If I had a dollar for every time I read “we're not in South America”. ”

    83 Monty69: “And I think if you had ''a dollar for every time I read “we're not in South America”.'' you wouldn't be much richer than you are now.”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/04/29/face-bombast-with-reason-british-official-tells-falklands

    Ka-chinnnng!! $$$

    ;-)

    May 11th, 2011 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    I didn't say 'we' .... I'm not an islander.

    And am I wrong ? Are they not in the south Atlantic ..... ?

    Adjacent to the south coast of the UK ........ now let's have a look at the definition of 'adjacent' :-)

    May 11th, 2011 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Well here is what you said about the islanders...

    61 Redhoyt: “...the Falkland Islanders are NOT in South America, they are in the south Atlantic”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/04/argentina-waging-a-vicious-war-against-the-falkland-islands

    The islands sit on South America's continental shelf. And if you insist on separating yourselves from South America don't complain about lost links of communication... you've got your wish.

    But then again, it's just you Redhot spewing nonsense, not the islanders.

    May 11th, 2011 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Ah .. you finally got around to reading my message properly :-)

    Difficulty in reading would explain your problems understanding history, idiot boy ! But as geography is irrelevant to the issue, I can put the islands where I like. 8 or 8000 = no difference as far as the islander's rights are concerned.

    May 11th, 2011 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    ”I told you J.A., Argentina does not claim the US. ;-)”

    That doesn't change the fact that you are implanted Martin.

    May 11th, 2011 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    How quaint Martin raging about possession of a territory in the name of country he doesn't even live in let alone have a passport for, or is even a native of.

    Martin Logic number 4,666789: Don't let your clear lack of citizenship and passport get in the way pretending to be a part of country you are not...and certainly don't let that get in the way of the RAGE!

    Martin Fantasies Number 54688989077: Kc-130 Watchma-call-its in Pretend Argentine Antartica WHOOOOOA Orgasmic!

    May 11th, 2011 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @17

    Eh? why would I want to do that Martin? that sort of thing is more Argentina's bag. Anyway last time I checked customs & immigration passport stamps are inclined to show the correct name for a country...and ours say Falkland Islands. If you think I need to prove this then you're the Idiot Martin.

    May 11th, 2011 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    The Malvina House Hotel is named after the daughter of the original owner. Malvina was a common Scottish name in the 19th Century that has fallen out of favour.

    “Malvinas” is a corruption of L'Isles Malouines the original French name of the Islands.

    Funnily enough Las Islas Falkland was used commonly in Argentina right up to the later 1930s. Its used to be used in Chile as well.

    Equally funny is that even Argentina doesn't use the original Spanish name, Islas de Sansón.

    May 11th, 2011 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @30,l think Martin needs a brain implanted in his head.

    May 11th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    29 Redhot,

    “8 or 8000 = no difference as far as the islander's rights are concerned.”

    Says you, says them. What do I care?

    30 J.A. Roberts,

    ”I told you J.A., Argentina does not claim the US. ;-)”
    “That doesn't change the fact that you are implanted Martin.”

    To what end was I “implanted”, J.A.? Mind explaining this?

    31 Rhaurie-Cunt

    “How quaint Martin raging about possession of a territory in the name of country he doesn't even live in let alone have a passport for…”

    Excuse me? LOL

    I was born in Argentina stupid, why else would I defend my country?

    Like I told you… by following your line of reasoning it is your allegiance and your identity that would be compromised by moving to another country, not necessarily mine… you really are sad.

    32 WestisBest,

    “when they go home the stamp in their passport will say 'Falkland Islands'”

    You were referring to the Chilean exchange students, so was I. Your colleagues were professing carelessness about the use of the word Malvinas instead of “Falklands” when it came to the cultural exchange, you on the other hand felt otherwise… hence my comment on #17.

    May 11th, 2011 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    “ ... What do I care? ...”

    You care...... I know it, you know it ..... you care! Pity you are wrong in all your assertions !

    May 11th, 2011 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    Martin its obviously they will keep saying malvinas name is falkland, they have been brainwashed, they dont even know the history and think they know it, look how are teaching to brits that the history they know is just for them, because spanish and french books say the same thing we say in our books, a lot of brits dont even know they were not the first one in colonize the islands, and think that if they saw the islands first that give them the right to have it, if we use that thought then all american continent would be italian because Americo Vespuccio saw it first, as you see they defend themselves with imagination, let them deam xD

    May 11th, 2011 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Must be strange living your fairytale world Searinox.

    May 11th, 2011 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    37,

    They actually call us 'brainwashed' haha...

    They say history about Malvinas or “Falklands” is not taught in Brutish schools, but somehow we are brainwashed and they are here to enlighten us. lol

    A bit strange... don't you think Brutish?

    May 11th, 2011 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    They say history about Malvinas or “Falklands” is not taught in Brutish schools,

    Well if we had has little history as Argentina maybe we could brainwash our kids like the Argies,

    May 11th, 2011 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Martin - we are in the South Atlantic and adjacent to- but not in - South America! Are you also saying that Trinidad and Tobago are also “in” South America?
    Falklands history unlikley to be taught in British schools as it is of little real interest and relevance - they learn British Isles history no doubt.
    As for brainwashed - please tell me why is it that every letter I receive from USA/Germany/Japan/South Africa etc - says on it- Falkland Islands? Even the Un uses those words!! - but to be fair as they have to be politically neutral they put Malvinas as well -AFTER - Falkand Islands.

    May 11th, 2011 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @39

    So is all your current knowledge just what you were taught in school Martin? actually don't bother answering that, it's clear that it is seeing how you blindly parrot the Argentina propaganda about the Falklands.

    Unlike you Argies the rest of us do continue to educate ourselves after we have left school, that is how it works when you are taught HOW to think rather than (as you all clearly have been) WHAT to think.

    May 11th, 2011 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “Unlike you Argies the rest of us do continue to educate ourselves after we have left school...”

    Is that after 1st grade or 2nd grade? ;-)

    May 11th, 2011 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Laugh it up Martin, if you could think about what I posted (sadly you cannot) you'd know I'm right.

    May 11th, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Uh, yeah... it really is laughable. You see no connection between education and possession of the facts.

    Our education is “propaganda” because... it differs from what you know, which apparently is not based on any formal education. lol

    Well what else can I do but laugh at you? Seriously...

    May 11th, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    ....It must be true because someone told you so.....

    your critical faculties are astounding, did it never occur to you to ask why you are taught so much about the Falklands at school?....

    Remember what I said about learning to think about things rather than to blindly accept them, you'll find if you try it that this approach provides a greater understanding of any subject but it's particularly pertinent when it comes to geo-political ideas like the Falklands/Malvinas question.

    to quote Blackadder ;-)

    “try to have a thought of your own, thinking is SO important, what do YOU think?”

    May 11th, 2011 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Significantly, opinion polls establish also that university-educated people prove more sensitive to territorial issues than others, thereby highlighting the importance of what Carlos Escudé, an Argentine historian, has described as 'a self-perpetuating process of indoctrination through the educational system and the mass media'. Argentine territorial nationalism is largely the product of geography and history teaching at schools and colleges

    May 11th, 2011 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    47,

    That's interesting... who are you quoting? Or are you seriously going to tell me you wrote that yourself?

    You copy/paste from someone else and post it as if it were your own writing, while at the same time criticizing education.... who needs an education when you've got google, right? ;-)

    “Argentine territorial nationalism is largely the product of geography and history teaching at schools and colleges...”

    So, if we knew nothing about geography or history we would be better equipped. Like... YOU? lol

    You think you're right and we're wrong, because you have thoughts of your own based on nothing other than what you want.

    Well, I have an education AND thoughts of my own... which by the way were never suppressed by my teachers. And you're a bunch of stupid farmers with internet.

    May 11th, 2011 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    We are being brainwashed every day, when we're in school they don't teach us about the flag of The Falklands, they don't teach us that the islanders are common people, they don't show to us pictures of children or young people living in the ilands, so we can't decide if we hate or not the people of the islands, perhaps when we are in school and we see a picture of children playing football in the islands we would feel that they are not pirates but only common people living or trying to live normal lives. This is terrible, they're teaching lies, some of us can escape the indoctrination, but some people will believe everything they are told, especially children. There are people who don't listen to the beatles just because they are English lol, it sounds crazy and funny, but it's true. That's cheap Nationalism. CFK says that there are those who are Argentines and those who are “Argentines”, so if we are “Argentines” why should we repeat their lies? The name of the islands is The Falklands. She indoctrinates people's minds all the time, every time that she speaks about “HIM” (aka Néstor Kirchner”), she's is putting thoughts into people's minds, especially children, making people believe that “HIM” is now a martyr who gave his life for the Patria, and that the “Argentines” are traitors, and that the British are pirates, and that Prince William is a spy, and that Queen Elizabeth II is a mad woman who wants to enslave us all, and that “HIM” is guiding us from the other side so we must listen to HIM, obey HIM, and be a soldier of Cristina for the Unity of Latin America in this crusade against the Imperialists and more bullsh*t every day. It's sickenining.

    May 11th, 2011 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @ 48

    Military governments have dominated post-1930 Argentine history. As a result, Argentina's case, though dependent largely upon the historical, legal and decolonisation criteria, has been supplemented recently by strategic geopolitical arguments. Geopolitics, discredited in the eyes of many by its Nazi Germany associations, has proved to be alive and well in South America, where Jack Child (in Geopolitics and conflict in South America) has identified the influence of the German geopolitical school upon military élites. Argentine geopoliticians, building upon history, have advocated the restoration of what is perceived to be the country's rightful place as a great nation

    May 11th, 2011 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “You think you're right and we're wrong, because you have thoughts of your own based on nothing other than what you want.”

    Based on what we've got Martin, what we've got. That's the crucial point. Of course that sentence could be accurately applied to you Argies.

    “And you're a bunch of stupid farmers with internet.”

    Which Argie textbook did that...ahem....'fact'....come from Martin?

    May 11th, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    Islander take a map, malvinas is on Argentina underwater shelf, the other islands are not in there but malvinas is. so yep malvinas is a part of argentina, ergo South America

    May 11th, 2011 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    48 Martin_Fierro
    “You think you're right and we're wrong, because you have thoughts of your own based on nothing other than what you want.”

    No Martin, we think we're right because what we want is what every other normal person wants; to live peacefully and securely in our own homes and communities.
    And what you want is to inflict misery on thousands of innocent people out of a combination of greed, insane nationalism and geopolitical fantasy.

    I also think I'm right because anyone who spouts the ignorant, bigoted and downright stupid rubbish that you do would have to be wrong about everything else.

    No we are not all poorly educated, or farmers, as you well know, so why write it? No-one else believes it apart from your other brain-washed litttle chums so why bother?

    52 Searinox
    I looked for 'Malvinas' on my map, but couldn't find it. Sorry.
    I did find a place called the UK on France's underwater shelf. Is that the sort of thing you were talking about?

    May 11th, 2011 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Well at least SiEquinix recognises that South Georgia and the SSI are nothing to do with South America .... it's not much, but its a start !

    May 12th, 2011 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    49 xbarilox... shut the hell up already you f@cking fake of a Chilean.

    Quit repeating what your daddy says and tell him to go back to Chile if he dislikes Argentina so much.

    Oh and remember, it's Argentines living in Argentina that voted for CFK and will vote again for CFK to make her win re-elections. Don't worry about us Argentines abroad. ;-)

    Imbecile

    May 12th, 2011 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Searinox-whilst i do not deny S America is our nearest continent and natural geographical neighbour I guess yours maybe a Kirschener map - geologically we are not part of S America - we were not part of that continent when it was attatched to what is now Africa,s west coast - we came off the bottom of Africa,s south east area. - so we had and have different origens, You might as well indeed argue that UK belongs to europe!
    We will have to differ in this - one thing crystal clear every day though is that we are NOT part of Argentina - in your dreams maybe - but only in your dreams. We are after all about 350 miles away from you.

    May 12th, 2011 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    53 Monty69,

    “No Martin, we think we're right because what we want is what every other normal person wants; to live peacefully and securely in our own homes and communities.
    And what you want is to inflict misery on thousands of innocent people out of a combination of greed, insane nationalism and geopolitical fantasy.”

    Quit exaggerating, no one is trying to inflict anything on you, you're ridiculous.

    And quit being so f@cking selfish, you're a bunch of jaded bigots who can't see two feet past your own stupidity and it's your children who will pay the price. They will be forever isolated in those god forsaken islands with no links to the continent they live next to. You don't teach them anything, you just feed them your own ignorance and your anger about the war and they swallow this garbage because they don't know any different. God knows the SHIT you're cramming into their heads.

    “we think we're right because what we want is what every other normal person wants”

    What the hell do you know about being normal? You think isolation is normal? And you want this for our kids?? Maybe that's fine for you because you're old and all you want is to die in your selfish backwards senile notion of 'normalcy'... but in reality what you want is for your kids to NEVER know a normal life, to never know peace, to never feel part of the world around them.

    You don't know anything, your children know even less.

    May 12th, 2011 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Yup, Marian has lost it! I blame islander for assuming that Marian would have any idea at all about being a 'normal' person :-)

    But he's young! He thinks that 29 years ago was a long time .... it isn't !!

    May 12th, 2011 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Your kids are younger, born after the war, yet they have to pay for your trauma.

    You think if you keep this up there won't be another war? Maybe not anytime soon but what about ten, twenty or thirty years from now? Are you certain?

    That is the legacy you leave for them, a life of isolation and the possibility of another war. So long as you get to die happy in your rocking chair staring at your Union Jack all is well.

    Very wise, old age really works in your favor.

    May 12th, 2011 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    “To what end was I “implanted”, J.A.? Mind explaining this?”

    Oh what a laugh Martin. I've asked you several times to define “implanted” in the context of the Falkland Islands, and you have ducked out every time.

    You are implanted because your surname is Catalan and you live in America. So you must have been implanted there no?

    May 12th, 2011 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    35 No no Martin, you don't quite get my logic :) You're not Argentine, you're a “pretend” Argentine, i.e your actually an American you just have Argentine ancestry and you brag about :)

    You see pretending that Argentina is your country and saying your “defending” it from the relative comfort of your college campus in Salt Lick City..thats “sad”.

    However I can't blame you, I'm sure I would be pretending to adopt any European Ancestral identity if I lived in Salt Lick City i.e the middle of Nowhere....Look what the midwest did to Josef Smith, he pretended to be a prophet LOL

    May 12th, 2011 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Definately Martin has lost his marbles this time.
    lf there is another war, Martin then you will start it like you started the last one.
    Then we will finish it, like we finished the last one.
    Why don't you quit Martin, while you're ahead.

    May 12th, 2011 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    “Why don't you quit Martin, while you're ahead.”

    He fell behind a long time ago. I don't think he actually ever got ahead...

    May 12th, 2011 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @57

    Wow...so Argentina's policy of isolating the Falklands is all our fault for being who we are.....very compelling Martin, I understand that the Nazi's used a similar logic to attempt to justify their extermination of Jews. How reassuring.

    May 12th, 2011 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    Martin: “xbarilox... shut the hell up already you f@cking fake of a Chilean. ”

    I assume, that what you are practicing in educated written words here is supposedly to be the southamericanism and union you've been talking yesterday in the Torres del Paine Theme?

    Interesting!

    May 12th, 2011 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FIMum

    Oh Martin, you are an endlessly amusing man, but you know I think our children are much better off never knowing a “normal” life if what you rant about is that normality.

    As for that abnormal isolation you speak of, if you knew anything about the real world you would understand that we are just fine. We have excellent relations with many of our neighbours and that would be even better if it wasn't for the venom that people like you continue to produce and the infantile bullying carried out by the Argentine government.

    I have to say though, that considering these islands are so dreadful, abnormal and “God forsaken” you do seem awfully keen to get your sweaty paws on them.

    But if it makes your strange little mind happy to think of us in this way, please continue to dream away. An we will continue to live peacefully - perfectly comfortable and content with our modern lifestyle, our beautiful Islands, clean air and friendly, safe society. Oh yeah, and don't forget - our freedom and the government of our choice.

    May 12th, 2011 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    57 Martin_Fierro

    Dear me, Martin; touched a raw nerve there did I?

    You have a very strange obsession with people's ages. I'm only a little bit older than you. Mr M is also a similar age to yourself and spent a fair chunk of the war hiding in a hole under his house.

    However, this isn't something that people talk about very much, and certainly not to children. No sane and reasonable person gets any kind of pleasure from telling horrible stories to children.

    Besides, we don't need to tell stories to make you look bad. You're doing a very fine job of that yourselves. We've been through all this on here before;
    ''Why don't we get fruit on the boat any more, Mummy?
    ''Because the boat doesn't come any more''......''Why not?''.......''Because the Argentines won't let it''.........''That's not very nice, why do they do that?.......''Because they think it will make us want to become part of Argentina''........''?????????? (look of complete amazement)''

    Well how did you imagine these kind of conversations would go? Do you want me to tell you the ''Will the Argentine soldiers ever come here again?'' conversation goes? No, thought not.

    One thing I am quite good at is teaching people to stand up to bullies. And that is what you are; you behave disgracefully and then blame it on us because we aren't doing what you want. Well I'm not going to hand over my tuck money to you if it's all the same, and if that means I get a punch in the head from you, it doesn't make me wrong and you right.

    ANYWAY, glad to have sorted that out. You really shouldn't worry about us, or the poor little children. We all have a much better education and better life chances than most people in Argentina.

    May 12th, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Awesome emo rage from Martin there

    Monty +1

    May 12th, 2011 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Nice one Monty, that'll get Martin to weep & whine so much down at his local that some Utah hick'll probably take him out back and make him his bitch.

    May 13th, 2011 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Nice one Monty,Martin will go full fingers in ears mode and come back with more bile no doubt

    May 13th, 2011 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    #60 through #70

    Without me Mercopress would be a pool of ignorance, truth hurts... ;-)

    May 13th, 2011 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Martin. Without you Mercopress might be a more boring place, but believe me with you the average level of ignorance is at least double.

    May 13th, 2011 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    -you will know much hurt, Martino, if you ever come here in Argentine uniform & uninvited.

    May 13th, 2011 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    Islander, i told you take a physical map ignorant, the others islands are not a part of the argentina underwater shelf, but they are near, malvinas is ON the argentina underwater shelf, i repeat it just take a physical map and you'll see what im saying, and saying that malvinas and the others islands come from africa?? LOL man we came from the same place from “Pangea”, if you know geography you'll understand what “Pangea” means, saying that malvinas doesnt belong to south America is just for an ignorant, or a person who is not proud where he was born, assuming that you were born there.

    May 13th, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    ......and I'm telling you, ignorant, that sharing a continental shelf with another country doesn't mean that they own you.

    Islander is completely right; the geology of the Falklands is much more similar to that of South Africa, as what is now the Falkland Islands started off on the East Coast of South Africa. In Gondwana if you want to be strictly accurate. Interesting.

    I don't actually think this has any importance to anything at all. It's just geology.

    May 13th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    74 Searinox
    “Islander, i told you take a physical map ignorant, the others islands are not a part of the argentina underwater shelf, but they are near, malvinas is ON the argentina underwater shelf,”

    Searinox,
    It's the South American continental shelf, not the Argentine continental shelf. Only part of it is under Argentine jurisdiction. There are also the British, Uruguayan, and Brazilian jurisdictions. It is sovereignty over territory which determines jurisdiction over the continental shelf.

    May 13th, 2011 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Searinox- yes I am born and bred here- but I am proudly and feel 100% an Islander, not a South American Continental. Now that is not denigrating a Chilean/Argentine-Brazilian etc - just that we feel as Islanders - not Continentals.
    Yes we are close to S.America and logically want to have trade and communications there - which we do.

    May 13th, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    73 lsolde,

    “-you will know much hurt, Martino, if you ever come here in Argentine uniform & uninvited.”

    Really? Are you sure your gay soldiers are up to the task? Looks like the only task their up to doing each other.

    http://www.malvinense.com.ar/smalvi/11/1870.htm

    All we have to do is attack on a Saturday night... lol

    May 14th, 2011 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Thanks Martin,that page is truly hilarious, even by El Mal's standards:

    ''The reader can check in the following pictures and video. Are advised not to have posted some videos that may offend the sensibilities of the reader and also are not suitable for all age groups, as soldiers of the Malvinas must be the most degenerate of the continent, and shamelessly published their “experiences” on websites of public access''

    What a pompous prat. And a prude to boot.

    I don't usually say this kind of thing, but what else is there........

    Give it a go if you think you're hard enough. Given the enduring nature of the British sense of humour, I imagine the soldiers who gave you a good kicking in '82 liked to drink a bit and dress up in women's clothes from time to time.

    May 14th, 2011 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “...the enduring nature of the British sense of humour”

    Yes Monty... your soldiers are gay, tell us something we don't know.

    Oh and please post photos of Argentine Marines in women's clothes, we're all waiting to see that I'm sure. ;-)

    May 14th, 2011 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Argentine soldiers do not need to wear women's clothes Marian .... they fight like women :-)

    May 14th, 2011 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Hey I like that song the gay soldiers were dancing to, 'Jumping all over the world'? I gotta find it for my three year old niece...

    May 14th, 2011 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    So let me get this straight......Your saying Martin that Argentina was beaten by gay cross-dressing soldiers and that gay cross-dressing soldiers continue to prevent Argentina's ambitions on the islands?

    Forgive me for saying, but this doesn't exactly paint the country which boasts about machismo in a very positive light :)

    Another case of Argentine idiocy and attempt to slur the UK backfiring spectacularly :)

    May 14th, 2011 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Uh, these photos and videos are fairly recent Rhaurie-cunt, you're right about the 'gay cross-dressing soldiers' though...

    Argentina has a legitimate sovereign right over Malvinas, no need to fire a single round.

    But if a war were to break out, chances are these bravehearts would be caught with their pants down listening to 'Jumping all over the world' or... Britney Spear's 'Baby One More Time'.

    They certainly are 'Royal'...

    May 14th, 2011 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • finthorpe

    actually these images and the video have been peddled by the “malvinense” site (which seems to exist for the sake of crying their eyes out about how unfair being humiliated in the falklands war was) for a good few years now, its something they like to cling to and scream about whenever they realize no one is listening to them.

    and argentina is in the unique position of claiming land it has no legal or moral right to, and yet having fuck all power to back up it's joke of a claim. a bit like north Korea except north Korea has a military

    if argentina mounted another cowardly attack, these thousand soldiers have about ten times the training, experience, and (obviously given the videos and pics of them having light hearted fun) morale of ANY argentine soldier, not to mention infinitely better equipment and support. such a war would undoubtedly however result in another few decades of argentina screaming like a bitch at how unfair it was for the other side to fight back (in the spirit of the belgrano of course)

    it must be humiliating to know that this little outpost is manned by soldiers who are not only spitting in your faces just by being there despite your constant whining for pity from the UN, hare having no small amount of fun while they do it, and while they scare your worthless excuse of a military from going anywhere near the island.

    also when you look at other REAL militaries you will find soldiers doing silly things for laughs (just look on youtube on vids of the Israeli, US and other such militaries), that sense of humor goes hand in hand with being a good soldier as it enables troops to blow off steam and have a laugh with their squad mates. something argentina wouldn't know much about i guess.

    May 14th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @84 M_F, quite funny Martino, you do have a sense of humour after all. Maybe some soldiers are gay, so what? They can still pull triggers & defeat any invaders. Most of course are not gay, they are just fooling around. Do you mean to tell me that there are NO gay soldiers in the Argentine military? That l would not believe. l heard that B.As. is one of the gay capitals of the world. lf you are banning these people from your military then you are losing a lot of talent. But thats your bed of roses and you can lay on it.

    May 14th, 2011 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @78, 80, 82, 84

    If you think the activities in these videos are what gay people get up to then you're an idiot...but then of course you ARE an idiot so fair enough. Even if it were true that British soldiers were all gay (which is of course a ludicrous suggestion) what of it? would that make them innefective soldiers? of course not. The Romans were partial to a bit of 'how's yer father', did that make them militarily feeble? of course not.

    Yet again your sneering says more about you than the people you are sneering at, it suggests you are an ignorant, raging homophobe, not very edifying for you.

    May 14th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Seriously, Martin, you need to try harder to understand what you are seeing here. It's a cultural difference.
    A lot of British men like to let off steam by dressing in women's clothes and acting crazy. I don't know why this is, but you see it a lot- the military, rugby clubs......every time we have a fancy dress party here some hairy arsed farmer will turn up in a frock pretending to be a woman. It's also a theme that runs through British comedy on TV.

    It doesn't mean they are all gay, although it wouldn't matter if they were.

    I have no doubt that Argentine marines, or Argentine men generally would not go in for this sort of thing. I'm sure you do have a sense of humour in there somewhere, but it probably doesn't involve making yourselves look silly.

    May 14th, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Gays are everywhere
    i understand why the prince is coming here just to have some fun.
    second in the throne he is not going to be send to combat and as rescue helicopter pilot he has not so much to do nowhere so lets do some funny training in those islands ....

    May 14th, 2011 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    And this is how the argies let off steam when they were on the Falklands

    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37337

    We are the last collective victims of the dictatorship,“ Orlando Pascua of the Centre of Former Combatants from Corrientes told IPS. He, too, went to Tierra del Fuego to file the lawsuit. The veteran told how he had seen a navy officer order the stake-out of a conscript for an alleged lapse of discipline.

    This punishment consisted of tying down the ”prisoner” stretched out on the ground with stakes. Sometimes the victim would be naked, and at other times covered with a blanket. He would be left there for eight hours or more in the middle of the southern hemisphere winter, at the mercy of the islands' low temperatures, strong winds, snow, and enemy fire.

    May 14th, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Just blokes having a laugh. Shows they're comfortable with there sexuality whether they're gay or straight.

    But hey, If the entire British Armed forces are gay, Your macho army got slapped around by a bunch of queers? How embarrasing..

    In our country Martin, being gay isn't for the most part seen as something derogative. We allow openly gay people in our forces. The fact that you see it as something derogative tells us more about you and that website that it does about the pictures on it.

    May 14th, 2011 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    89 malen
    The search and rescue teams do have a bit to do, including medical evacuations from fishing boats and remote places, and casualty extractions from road traffic accidents.

    May 14th, 2011 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    90 .......in Argentina in 1994 i think if im not wrong se abolió la conscripción (abolition of conscription)

    May 14th, 2011 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    No worries Martin, you can join up now

    In Argentina, starting today, a new military justice system goes into effect which decriminalizes homosexuality among uniformed members, eliminates the death penalty, and moves crimes committed exclusively within the military to the public justice sphere [previously there had been a separate military court system].

    http://blabbeando.blogspot.com/2009/02/argentina-ban-on-gay-soldiers-is-lifted.html

    May 14th, 2011 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    i think the prince is still going to find time to enjoy of that particular way of english humour
    http://es.daybreakingnews.com/post/Principe-William-borracho-desnuda-partido.aspx

    May 14th, 2011 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    95 malen
    You still don't get it do you?

    Nobody cares.

    May 14th, 2011 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    well if MP wasnt so probritish instead of publishing these kind of articles of sth thats going to happen in september would be publishing
    real interesting recent acontecimientos of chile like
    www.espanol.rfi.fr/americas/20110514-masiva-protesta-contra-represas-en-la-patagonia for example in all newspapers of SA nothing in MP

    May 14th, 2011 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    If you don't like it, why post here? Why read it?

    May 14th, 2011 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    97 Malen

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/05/10/chilean-protestors-clash-with-police-as-regulators-approve-five-dam-project-in-patagonia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/05/10/chilean-protestors-clash-with-police-as-regulators-approve-five-dam-project-in-patagonia

    May 14th, 2011 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    they arent in the front page of MP and should be it is massive also in buenos aires they have made a protest
    It seems as if these represas are not going to improve better electricity to the people and they are going to be used to give it to the mines, affecting the environment and it appears to be un negociado.
    you are the david of other topix arent you?

    May 14th, 2011 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    monty69 how poor is your knowing about sea limits

    May 14th, 2011 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    ?????????
    No, don't understand a word of that.

    May 14th, 2011 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    Malen, the second one is at the bottom of the front page of today's MP.

    And yes to your question

    May 15th, 2011 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    103 ok

    May 15th, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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