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Falklands reaffirms self-determination and campaign to promote success of the Islands
The Falkland Islands right to self determination “is undiminished as is the support from the UK to uphold that right and no amount of posturing by others can affect that right”, said Governor Nigel Haywood in his ‘State of the Nation’ address to the Legislative Assembly at the opening of the budget session. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWill Malvinas become a marine protected area aswell to cover their lies?
May 25th, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The British government are frankly liars: they tell you things, but it's not like they are telling you. You have to see with your own eyes.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/may/19/chagos-islands-resettlement-campaign
So Marcos, we both agree that what happened in Chagos was wrong. So why do you want to repeat that event in the Falklands?
May 25th, 2011 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully you do not have the power to do such a thing and quite frankly, never will.
And no amount of posturing by others can affect that right”, said Governor Nigel Haywood in his ‘State of the Nation’ address
May 25th, 2011 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this is not a direct challenge , then Argentina may well be deaf.
Will Argentina respond, or will her bloggers do this for her,
Once again will we hear the sound of silence, or wailing children, next ??
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Marcos - when are you ever going to move into the world or REALITY? I think all of us agree that the Chagos was wrong - and I also hope it can be put right. But that was years ago - we are dealing - in the Islands- with today and tomorrow - not decades ago!
May 26th, 2011 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0But then living in a delusionary and fantasy past does seem to be an Argentine custom.
TWIMC
May 26th, 2011 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quote from above:
“.................“Our focus must not be diverted by attempts to de-rail us – in order to succeed we must concentrate on our goals and on our agenda, not someone else’s..............”
Jupppppp;.................. that's exactly what WE are doing.......................
The problem is that an empire that had a history recently as the expulsion of the indigenous people of Chagos, is that they can return to do something similar with the settlers from the Falkland Islands. As we all know the idea of relocation existed a few decades ago, and this idea did not originate in Argentina, originated in Britain.
May 26th, 2011 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Greeting, JPL.
#6 - And your point is ?
May 26th, 2011 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0that's exactly what WE are doing.......................
May 26th, 2011 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Background noise
The Governor said “we believe this approach continues to work. Despite
a good deal of noise from elsewhere, we are succeeding in growing our economy and in going about our business”.
Noise is what Argentina is good at doing, direct action resultsin either them making fools of themselves (such as rioting about a couple of ships that were working for them...DOH!) or in being utterly humiliated (1982....double DOH!).
May 26th, 2011 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Sorry. What's “Malvinas”? Is it like “Neverland”? That place in the Peter Pan stories. It's a fantasy! Just something made up for kiddies.
May 26th, 2011 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Ummm. No, you're not! Just as a thought. Did you know your “navy” isn't much bigger than Gaddafi's used to be? And his is a lot smaller now. Always worth bearing in mind if anyone's thinking of interfering with the right to innocent passage.
@6 Military necessity, old son. Always a trump card. And we LIKE having the British Army, the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy in OUR Overseas Territories. It's a “homey” feeling for the citizens as well. THEY like having detachments from the British Army, the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy there as well. Makes them feel safe!
Rotten/briton
May 26th, 2011 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nz is a country democatic?? It is bullshit, uk says all the time that nz have to do ! Rotten you have no idea about nz! !!you will need to read more about nz, about Australia!!!! nz still a colony and also still pay tribute to the Queen, it is a lot money! you have to leave the shit where you live!!!! and you'll have to see how the brits see all the colonies ! The Malvinas Islands will be worse! Briton opened your eyes mate!!!!!!
Kiwi'sArse - you are saying that New Zealand is NOT a democratic and independent country ? Wow ..... what world do you live in ??
May 26th, 2011 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0rotten! I know nz and Australia!! Have you been there!! nope!! I think so
May 26th, 2011 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0“! nz still a colony and also still pay tribute to the Queen, it is a lot money! ”
May 26th, 2011 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No.
Sorry, my comment number 6, please replace the words “Falkland Islands” for “Malvinas Islands. ” An inadvertent error.
May 26th, 2011 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Greetins, JPL.
@13
May 26th, 2011 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They've been pulling your chain you plonker, Aussies and Kiwis are the biggest wind up merchants going....Jesus you RG's are gullible.
rotten! I know nz and Australia!! Have you been there!! nope!! I think so
May 26th, 2011 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you tried telling an Aussie or Kiwi they are a UK colony?you would get bashed good and proper kiwi fruit
JPL 6 - I have been here all my life and never heard that story befoe! Somehow I am pretty sure UK never suggested that to us in the 1970s!
May 26th, 2011 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Governor Nigel Haywood ? .. Governor ?...Governor ?
May 26th, 2011 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why aren't you Prime Minister or President of Falkland Island ?
You can't be ! not possible ! becouse that........
“” Falkland Islanders were granted full British Citizenship from January1/1983 under the British Nationality ( Falkland Island ) Act .“”
this means that,you are British , you are not independent ,
you are merely the part of UK !......
Governor ! if there is anythings which bother you then you have to
explain them in London not in here !
@19
May 26th, 2011 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I for one am not going to bother trying to explain to you YET AGAIN how British Overseas Territories and British Citizenship works...you're clearly too much of a moron to comprehend it.
I honestly could not believe that the Argentine posters could plumb to new depths of stupidity, naivity and ignorance. Australia and New Zealand and colony? I truly hope the rest of the Argentine population are as slow as you, because then it is 100% guaranteed Argentina dont have a hope in hell of every colonising the Falkland Islands, and will continue down its current path of stupidity, backwards logic and choatic rhetoric.
May 26th, 2011 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And JLP the islands are called the Falkland Islands, you got it right for once. You cant just simply call a country by whatever name you want. From now on I shall refer to Argentina as Arseholentina, and the Falkland Islands claims Aseholentina in the name of the Falklands because of their close proximity to our land and their 8000 mile distance from Spain. Plus (!) you have invaded us twice many years ago and for and lost both times, therefore (using the Arseholentina's people logic) you are in fact inferior to us.
Keep the comedy gold coming Arseholentines.
Nz is a country democatic?? It is bullshit, uk says all the time that nz have to do ! Rotten you have no idea about nz! !!you will need to read more about nz, about Australia!!!! nz still a colony and also still pay tribute to the Queen, it is a lot money! you have to leave the shit where you live!!!! and you'll have to see how the brits see all the colonies ! The Malvinas Islands will be worse! Briton opened your eyes mate!!!!!!.................................. If anyone wants to see the reason why Argentina is a mixed up country then look no further than this nutty post.
May 26th, 2011 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
May 26th, 2011 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#20 /
May 26th, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell us how British overseas territories and British citizenship works ..
http://www.malvinense.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2297&highlight=mercopress
May 26th, 2011 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where JPL and the rest of the nutters from El Malvinense co-ordinate their activities on Mercopress.
After reading that I see WestisBest doesn't consider the islands government as a real democracy, we already know that, anything else?
May 26th, 2011 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yul/Marcos- you fail to see-well i know Marcos cannot see anything clearly.
May 26th, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have ALL 100% of the full democracy we wish and desire. One thing - and ONE thing only stops us from what you prefer to call “full democracy” - ie Independence, that thing is called Argentina. We go Independent, then naturally we have no defence guarantee from UK - and we know your military would be coming up the beaches in very short time and not much we could do to stop yet another military invasion of our homes.
So we have freely chosen- yes its called a free democratic choice - to stay as the democracy that we desire and prefer - namely as a Self-Governing British Overseas Territory.
Today we are in full control of our Laws and Taxes etc etc through our elected government. The Governor is the Queen,s reperesentative or “prescence” - he has NO POWER INTERNALLY - unless our elected members were foolish enough to go into corruption- then and only then can he intervene - as UK has to answer legally to the UN that there is good fair democratic governance of the Islands of the choice of the people. He can advise yes - but he has no vote on issues. In that respect he is the same as the Governor of Canade or Australia etc. Yes Laws made by us go to London for approval - again UK is responsible to the UN for us so they need to make sure that law is a just one and our elected politicians are not lining their nests. No different really to laws in Australia going to the Governor there for signing.
It is only in Foreign Affairs(done in consultation and with agreement with our elected Govt), and Defence that the Governor and London have the real say. And that is fair enough as they have the responsibility to defend our freedom.
Br Citizenship? - Yes after HongKong was correctly returned to Chinaon expiry of the Lease. you will find that ALL the peoples of remaining Br Territories have it.
to ALL ARGIES (yes you fellowcountrymen of mine): WAKE UP!!!!! ... and stop wasting your time and thoughts and everything related to getting the Malvinas back. The Islanders are right. and the British HAVE WON their place in the world same as the USA. WE lack:
May 26th, 2011 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 01- the weapons (war vessels, high tech weaponry for our army, latest fighter planes, ICBMs)
2- the national union (we dont have it coz the old inner conflicts are still on, Porteños vs Interior, Radicals vs Peronists, autocratic gov´ts in many provinces, uneducated teachers and consequently, uneducated and uncultured electorate and consumers and producers)
3- the wisdom, the intelligence and the loyalty to a unified strong Argentina
4- AND BECAUSE we lack all things said before, we have no REAL ALLIES in South America. (examples? see where the Chilean president went to when the 33 miners were rescued, he went to London with his wife and gave the queen a small gift, a stone from the depths of San Jose mine in Chile. They have 48 F16s. What do we have? then, look at Brazil, they have a pact with Britain for mutual defense, and DO YOU KNOW WHO backs up Brazil for a UN Security COuncil permanent seat? BRITAIN does.... and you think that backup will go for free??)
5- LATIN AMERICAN UNION is a f.... utopia. An impossible thing. Vexed and vested interests mine all possible fields for a real and prosperous union, meaning capable of not jus growing economically but also capable of defending it on military grounds.
TO ALL BRITISH, whether they be from the UK or elswhere: Why dont you just put the pressure needed to end up this stupid conflict with Argentina???????????????? WHY do you keep flaming the fires of hope for Argentina? DO SOMETHING REAL that leads to a definite solution.
WE ARE ALL WASTING TIME AND MONEY and creating too much trouble and making the life of many real troubled. IF Argentina would get this conflict our of their minds, maybe they would stop bothering the Falklanders, and many Argentinians.
We are democratic. They are not. They are pirates. We are not. They are lairs. We are not.
May 27th, 2011 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have respect for human life. They do not. We hold essentially liberal values. They do not. As we look into these issues it is important that we never lose sight of our basic values. But we have to understand the nature of this enemy and act accordingly.
Its not our fault mates.
@29NicoDin, one word fits all that you said: CODSWALLOP. Of course its your fault. This whole mess is your fault. You are the biggest liars that l've ever encountered.btw-do you know what a“lair”is? Ask our Aussie friends, because thats what you fools are-'two bob lairs'
May 27th, 2011 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@28Gotey,lts not us who are causing the trouble. lts Argentina.How would you like it for a foreign power to keep “claiming”your land & to keep pouting, whinning & moaning when they can't get their way? There will NEVER be a normal relationship between us while Argentina keeps acting like a spoilt child. There are people here now that hate Argentina because of what you have done & said.
@that idiot who calls himself Kiwisarg. you are a fool & a liar. just go away. We will have whatever government that we want & its got nothing to do with you or your silly country.So get lost, unwashed one.
#27 islander /
May 27th, 2011 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for your comment (#27) which confirms my (# 19) post !
We are democratic.
May 27th, 2011 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0-Guffaw Nicodume :) Nice one....what is democratic about demanding territory against the democratic wishes of the islanders, answer NOTHING! Ergo you are not as democratic as you like to think :) The UK on the other respects the democratic wishes of the islanders, ergo we are democratic, and you're not.
“ They are pirates, We are not.”
-Hahah, really? Well tell me which facet of international law says owning territory coverted by a neighbour is piracy? Anway if 1982 wasn't piracy by Argentina then I am the Queen of England .....tell me about Argentinas claim to South Georgia and Antarctica before 1945...oh wait a second, you didn't have one...Piracy per chance? :)
“We hold essentially liberal values”
-Hahah nice Nicogriffin :) since when has demanding the sovereignty of territory irrespective of the inhabitants democratic wishes been a progressive essentially liberal value :) I guess you could say Hitler was one of the greatest most progressive Liberals ever!
“it is important that we never lose sight of our basic values”
-Well I will give you that, you certainly do....Corruption, extremist nationalism, lying on the international stage, deceit, and a fanatical desire to steal British territory against democratically expressed wishes :)
“ But we have to understand the nature of this enemy and act accordingly”
-Gufffawl! 180 years later and you still apparently can't understand the nature of the enemy and seem completely impotent and headless when addressing the “enemy”, you've tried aggression, aggression and eeer more agression and still seemingly think that with a bit more aggression and strong words might work :).....Tell me has it ever occurred to Argentina to do something a bit different?
“Its not our fault mates”
-Under-statement of the year award forthcoming.
“We have respect for human life. They do not.”
May 27th, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about the human lives of the Islanders
@Nico (29)
May 27th, 2011 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bravo Nico. Bravo. I have to applaud you. I have never seen such a brilliant piece to perfectly sum up Argentina and its people. Truly. The hyprocracy, ignorance and arrogance really shines through in your post. Keep up the good work discrediting your own, Argentina's and it's Government credibility, intelligence and its claim over MY country. You are doing a better job at it than myself, Islander1, WestisBest, Zethe, RedHoyt and the rest ever could.
Dim is in fact .... just dim !
May 27th, 2011 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Presumably this “liberal values” argentina is the same one that is fining and threatening anyone that attempts to publish an accurate inflation figure for the country.
May 27th, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! I don’t know why this people like to attack us with such uncivilised manners.
May 28th, 2011 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I understand that we are from different culture and that they don’t have democratic values and they want to be like in the middle age. Is like the Romans used to call them “The Barbarians”.
Well any way as we are so tolerant we will be patient and wait until they reconsider their bad attitude.
I know that this may be will take some time but the truth, honesty, good will and high moral values will prevail.
I hope so to preserve democracy and western values in this part of the world.
I think you'll find that the UK has been preserving democracy and western values for the last 200 to 300 years at least, and in fact you lot are a bunch of johnny come lately's with a history of turmoil, both politically and in terms of values ever since your ancestors set foot in South America.
May 28th, 2011 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Currently, you're a corrupt, politically inept country, using a political model that was outdated even in the 1930s, as a consequence none of you has any real money other than that which they can steal, and despite grandiose front organisations within South America, you'd each sell your grandmother, and stab your neighbours in the back for the price of your next fix of paco.
Only Brazil and Chile appear to have any backbone, and that is why Britain maintains strong links, in trade, politics, and military with them, and even back Brazil's application for a permanent seat on the Security Council.
Your country however, is on a path to self destruction, and frequently spouts the lies of its own internal political indoctrination into International Forums, because the lie is so big you think everyone else will buy into it. However, all you're doing is damaging your International credibility further. If that is possible after defaulting on IMF and Overseas loans previously.
The best thing you can do is emigrate elsewhere for a better life, which is precisely what a number of you have done, the evidence is on these pages of MercoPress.
Unfortunately, because many of you have been indoctrinated since birth, you'll always be known as that Argentine nut job that lives down the street, that no-one makes friends with unless they have to.
@Wireless
May 28th, 2011 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sir do you mean this little island that has a monarchy and a queen as a head of the state that none cans elect, without a constitution or separation of powers. And where are not all equals and has colonies with indoctrinated people thinking they live in democracy like Fidel Castro does in Cuba?
I guess you are wrong Sir this is not a democracy, this is a monarchy with a makeup.
Monarchy is government of one were the sovereign is the Monarch and democracy the sovereign is the people. Can you understand the difference in the concept?
Tell me what is the process to elect your monarch? Tell me how anyone of you can become the head of the state like in any modern country?
Middle age perhaps?
So make you homework, learn what is a democracy and then come back, please.
You sound very silly.
Best regards,
Dim ... you are so Dumb. Monarchs can be the Head of State for a democratic system ... one less tier of bloody politicians after all.
May 28th, 2011 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your lack of knowledge is your downfall ..... which is why the Falkland islands are still British, which is why the UK still sits at the top table, which is why the British still have a say .... and, of course, which is why Argentina is irrelevant !
I think Nico has to be a complete wind- up.
May 28th, 2011 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No-one could be that stupid.
I'd rather have our constitutional monarchy than your 'democracy' any day, you complete ignoramus.
How about you do your homework on the power of the sovereign in British government and then come back.
Or I could just save you the bother and say 'none'. And hasn't had any for the past two hundred years.
-yes, l agree. l think Nico is another troll like Fido. -to be ignored from now on.
May 28th, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 039 NicoDin (#)------ the only one that sounds silly is you. Perhaps Argentina should have a monarchy like ours and a democracy like ours , then perhaps it would not be in the mess that its in. By the way it could be arranged, just give us the nod and we will come over and put everything right that is wrong in your country. Lets face it with all the problems we have in Britain, we are still better than your puny little republic with all your corruption, and your inflation that some how you can never get right. Just say the word and we will come a calling to show you how its all done.
May 28th, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is extremely funny that the worst and most venomous contributors from the Malvinist side appear to have emigrated to Canada and New Zealand for a better life, but still remain bitter and twisted from a lifetime of indoctrination.
May 29th, 2011 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0In terms of this thread it is extremely funny, because these people have emigrated to Constitutional Monarchies, former colonies of the British Empire, that both have a Governor appointed by Queen Elizabeth II, and recognise her as Head of State.
If such a system of Government is so bad, why have Canada and New Zealand adopted it, why have they opted to remain within the Commonwealth of Nations (formerly the British Commonwealth), and why have they both joined the Special Relationship regarding US-UK Intelligence and Security.
If such a system of Government is so bad, why did these Malvinists choose to emigrate there?
The only conclusion is that a Constitutional Monarchy is a better system of Government than the Republican Model used in Argentina, which is regarded by the World as a flawed democracy, even the US, which is a Republic, thinks the Argentine Republic is a flawed democracy, yet the US is happy to share its most important secrets with the UK, a Constitutional Monarchy.
NicoDIM, the important parts of the World, even the parts considered important by your own Malvinists, important enough to build a new life in those important places, doesn't appear to agree with you.
That must tell you something about Peronist Politics, surely?
@44, very well said Wireless. Nothing is needed to be added.
May 29th, 2011 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Wireless
May 29th, 2011 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing that tells me is the level of indoctrination you have and the incapacity to understand the world’s events is huge.
Talking with someone of you about democracy, freedom, separation of power, etc. is like to talk with and Stalinist in the times of the Soviet Union.
No brain to think by yourself, just fanatics driven by indoctrination that need daddy king or mummy queen or dictator to take care about your life.
What you are telling to the world by accepting a monarch is simply, that you consider your self as an inferior creature unwilling to take care of your own matters.
And that regardless of your intellectual capacities, success, efforts, had work, etc. You will never be equal to someone who by change was born with privileges and that always will be that way and at the top of you. But not by virtue otherwise by imposition.
So are you happy to be the honeybee living in a beehive serving a queen?
Good for you but please don’t speak about democracy because you don’t ever will understand what is that.
[] ..Isolde...Wireless...Monty...Britishbulldog( why doberman ? )...
May 29th, 2011 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wanting a frankly comment !
The basic reason of choosing monarchy as admin method is simple ..
that the inability toward integration of many ethnic,autonomous
groups who have deep differentiations at notably languages...etc
For examples ;
UK....Wales , N.Ireland , Scotland..
SPAIN .... Basque...Katalan....
BELGIUM .. Flamans..Valons...
SWEDEN,NORWAY,DENMARK,HOLLAND....
MAROC......couse of just have external fearings and each not has
socio-cultural deepness....
THAILAND has different fact who has Budist traditions,the King
has been the religious leader therewithal...
The rest countries have no need monarchy becouse they don't have
deep differing cultural people groups..as fairly bold countries !
@47 geo, what are you trying to say, comrade? Are you asking why we have a Monarch?
May 29th, 2011 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@geo
May 29th, 2011 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think its much a Psychological problem I guess.
Some people like to be told what to do and obey and other chose the contrary.
Like to be a your own boss or look for a job. Some people cannot imagine having a life without a job provided for an employer.
And others cannot imagine a life having a boss even if they can earn more is a stable job.
The risk of having their own destiny on their hands froze them a matter of self-confidence.
: )
I feel for the people of the Malvinas/Falkland. It is not their fault that the British were 19 century pirates that saw fit robbing lands in the name of the crown.
May 29th, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are there because they feel it is their home However,
If I go to your house, kick your family out of it and move my family in does not make the house mine.
“If I go to your house, kick your family out of it and move my family in does not make the house mine.”
May 29th, 2011 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “family” was never kicked out. If you did your rsearch well enough you'd know this.
@ Fjviera
May 29th, 2011 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes this people has not moral and sense of humanity
Look what they have done to the poor inhabitants of the Diego Garcia islands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Diego_Garcia
Sure they were torturing the poor Argentinean families before they expulse them.
Racist people the British are they like to kill Muslim and Africans all over the world.
I’m really scary they are threatening a pacific country like Argentina and sending nuclear subs down here.
And the worst is that sure US will help them to kill all us we are not secure having people like this down here.
God blesses you.
NicoDin ----------- Don't worry o scared one just remember to behave yourselves when it comes to our Falklands and their will be no need to use our Nuclear subs. You just remember this little bit of information o scard one.
May 29th, 2011 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Britishbulldog
May 29th, 2011 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And do you mean?
I wrote scary ha ha instead of scared.
Well between my grammar and spelling mistakes and your English hardly both can make a proper sentence.
BTW mate how may people have British killed or tortured today?
Oh! God save as all I’m so scared now snif, snif...
Fjviera
May 29th, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If I go to your house, kick your family out of it and move my family in does not make the house mine.”
So does Argentina plan on handing Paraguay back the land it took during the War of the Triple Alliance?
So does Argentina plan on returning Patagonia to Chile?
So does Argentina plan on returning the Uruguayan land it took by conquest?
Apart from anything else, do you plan on leaving and returning Argentina to its indigenous peoples?
No.
This of course completely ignores the fact, that unlike what Argentina claims, the British did not expel the settlement in the Falklands, a settlement formed with the permission and consent of the British consul.
And of course it ignores the fact that all declarations made about the Falklands were made by an illegal Government, whose rulings were renounced by the Government that followed it.
Argentine democracy in action.....
May 30th, 2011 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines to Falklanders.....“We want sovereignty over these islands immediately”
Falklanders: “Can we have a democratic vote on it please?”
Argentines: “No”
That is the key difference between the UK which allows its people the choice and Argentina which consistently refuses to allow such a democratic choice...
Therefore Argentina cannot market itself as a true democracy because it refuses to allow the Falkland islanders a choice.....
standby for mundane and wholly contradictory posts about Iraq, Chagos etc etc
@50 Fjviera,
May 30th, 2011 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0-ah, but it was never your house to start with.
-read some true history(not lying Argentine history books) before you make stupid remarks.
If the British would have been successful in invading and keeping Buenos Aires in 1806-07 we wouldn't be having this silly conversation.
May 30th, 2011 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dim, you just don't get it do you, the Monarchy in the UK is there only by the will and consent of Parliament, which is directly elected by the people.
May 30th, 2011 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only reason the Monarchy exists in the UK is because; it is a money spinner as it generates more income to the state than it costs to support the Monarchy, it maintains our traditions and provides stability, it costs a lot less than paying for electing a Head of State, yet another politician, every few years, and it winds daft fcukers up like Malvinists in Argentina.
Ok, the latter one isn't a reason, but as it does wind you lot up all the better.
The very concept of a Constitutional Monarchy is that it exists only by the will of the people, I think you confuse this system of government with that of an Absolute Monarchy, but in any event, you are confused, stupid, or both, and I don't really care which.
I think if you actually visited the Islands and talked to Islanders, apart from perhaps calming down a bit for fear someone real in front of you would give you a slapping, you'd find out first hand how ridiculous your interpretation of our Constitutional Monarchy actually is.
In any event, the Falklanders wish to remain British, nothing you can do about it.
I’m so scared that these people from this horrendous evil kingdom bomb us as they are doing in Libya.
May 30th, 2011 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t want to see my family raped and killed that way.
What kind of human being can do such kind of atrocities to others?
Even though they are bad we Argies pray for they souls every night asking God to illuminated their heart with a bit of compassion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/19/libya-no-fly-zone-live-updates
God bless everyone
@ Wireless
Thank for you invitation but unfortunately I’m so scared to visit your evil empire. I wouldn't like to end dead in Stanley.
: )
Its official Isolde, they are scared you might slap them is some evil way for bad language. (Dim is dim, and proof enough that you can't polish a turd)
May 30th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 060@ Wireless
May 30th, 2011 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said and explained. You saved me the trouble.
SEE WHAT I MEAN ARGIE FELLOWS? you, well, most of us, are so ignorant of so many things round the world, because you, most of us, LACK education, a good one, ... see why we can´t have a real democracy? a real republic? a really educated electorate? WAKE UP, ARGENTINA!!!! We live in a world full of self-created fantasies, in a world that was born out of the uneducated, bribed and bribing f... cons we have in mostly in Buenos Aires city... THERE lies at least 50% of the cons in Argentina, making life a shame and a real pain for those who, like me, care for the TRUTH, FAIRNESS, JUSTICE, DEMOCRACY and a better ARGENTINA and a better united LATAM. BUT SAAADLY, it cannot be, it is a dream that not even my grandchildren will see, if the world exists by then, let alone Argentina.... ARGENTINA must work real hard on EDUCATION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM, THE RIGHT TO TAKE PART IN THE JUDICIARY (thru Jury trials like in the US) ... gee, we are sooo FAR from that better Argentina.
EDUCATION and FREEDOM. Education that leads to responsible citizens who truly care about democracy and real freedom. Not fake selfish damned CORRUPTED good-for-nothings- which is what our Education have come up with. GEE, it is so sad to have to say this, and to show the Brits in these posters WHAT WE REALLY ARE, non-patriots, traitors to JUSTICE and democracy and UNEDUCATED citizens... so sad, such a shame... YES, I AM AN ARGIE... I just hope things change, hope we can get them to change... but it is so daunting that task... God help us
OH! God, please save the good people of this world from this evil people and Empire!
May 30th, 2011 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They use dirty tactics like in India hiring sepoy (cipayos) corrupts, criminals and bad people willing to do whatever and including killing they own for money and privilege.
Most of the time also they impersonate honest people saying I’m Argentinean but they are not able to say a word in Spanish.
Be careful these people are very dangerous.
They are liars, cheaters, evil, racist and they don’t have any respect for the law.
I will keep praying to God to be good with them because they can end in hell.
@63 NicoDin,
May 30th, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh how pure and sanctimonious you are Father Nicholas.
You should look at your own violent & bloody past before you accuse others.
What about the 30,000 of your OWN CITIZENS that were tortured & murdered?
What about the endemic corruption & nepotism?
And you really expect us to willingly submit to your “benevolent” rule?
You are “yoking” aren't you?
You should pray for your country's soul, Nicholas & your own. Don't you worry about us for we are in the right.
P.S. There is no such place as hell.That was invented by priests to keep the people in line.
This man is funny, I don't normally post YouTube links because the idiots tend to go over the top with nonsense and I don't want to fuel it, but this is funny and very much to the point that Isolde was making @64
May 30th, 2011 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/u/2/_Hf2wcCoWCM
I subscribed anyway.
Oh! My Lord please helps the spirit of these evil people.
May 31st, 2011 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are now using psychological torture to force me to submission and oppression.
But I keep my faith stronger than ever because I know that good and honest people like the Argentineans will prevail with the help of God.
I don’t know why they hate us so much we do not yet know the exact origin of this evil toward us and the rest of Latin American people.
May be because we are democratic. And they are not. We have respect for human life. They do not. We hold essentially liberal values. They do not. We have compassion. They have not. We care for the weak. They do not.
As we look into these issues it is important that we never lose sight of our basic values and our faith on God.
But we have to understand the nature of this enemy and act accordingly. Because our freedom, the free and democratic world is in danger and of course our families.
God please blesses all the good people of the world and even our hater enemies.
Amen
Crazy person says what
May 31st, 2011 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They MUST be adjusting the dose of his tablets, it is the only explanation, or is it?
May 31st, 2011 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Psychological torture?
May 31st, 2011 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reason, logic, historical facts, is that psychological torture?
“But I keep my faith stronger than ever because I know that good and honest people like the Argentineans will prevail with the help of God.”
Illustrates perfectly a point I made a long time ago, the Argentine claims are almost a matter of religious faith. They don't stand up to scrutiny or logical argument, you point this out and almost childlike they shout you down saying that can't possibly be true as they have “faith”.
Proof of course denies faith and without faith their claims crumble to dust.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
God grant me the courage to change the things I can,
God grant me the wisdom to know the difference.
Amen
Here endeth the lesson.
Oh Nickodin , we are coming the evil ones will be with you soon . Knock knock open the door, oh Nickodin the evil ones are here, we wont your women and you men open the door oh scared one those nasty British people are here.
May 31st, 2011 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Woooooooor we are like ghosts in the night oh scared one your Lord wont help you now, pray pray oh scared one it wont do you any good but pray, we British ghouls are upon you feeding from your blood.
But there again I might as well stay at home and put the kettle on and have nice cup of tea made by my Punkawalla
The wife objects unnecessarily to being referred to as a 'Punkawalla', its completely unreasonable I feel.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe I should not have shown her an old episode of 'It ain't half hot mom' beforehand.
Well we certainly don't need a Punkah at the moment!
Jun 01st, 2011 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Argentina is a very democratic country, it has been Democratic for many years....how many precisely...? 29 years? Oh, thats not long. Are they truly Democratic....ermmm...not really, just very corrupt and the Kirchners just share power. Yes, Argentina is the beacon of Democracy across the World! So democratic they want to force their wonderful system on a small community of people without their consent or expressed wishes. So democratic and liberal they ignore the Human Rights of this very same island community. Oh the Hypocrisy!
Jun 01st, 2011 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nico, you are an idiot. Keep up discrediting yourself. You are making it too easy.
Hey Nico, I am just admiring a British flag (one of many in Stanley) that is flapping in the wind. What a pretty site. You got to love the democratic wishes of the Falkland Islanders.
@M_of_FI
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“So democratic they want to force their wonderful system on a small community of people without their consent or expressed wishes”
Certainly not Sir/Madam you say and keep saying that you are British and part of Britain the evil empire with more than 60 millions pirates living in UK. Plus all your colonies and sepoy (cipayos) corrupts, criminals and bad people. You are a liar sir/madam we are the little community facing your oppression and evil attacks.
You want to take all over Latin America like you are doing in the Middle East by killing and torturing civilians for oil and resources.
Good and honest American people know also that too. You want to take over the world and oppress people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1FtK78ElJw
But we will fight and die if necessary to defeat the evil empire with the help of God and the good will all honest people to keep our freedom.
Amen
“But we will fight and die”
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get over yourself, son. You're not fighting and you aint dying so calm down internet warrior.
http://img.imtwelve.com/gallery/Sorry_Babe776.jpg
So are we not to have crusades like in the middle age?
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uff I disappointed then?
And why not?
Yes, Nicholas, you are correct. We have an evil plan. We are going to increase our population to about 5,000 people then the Falklands are going to invade Argentina's southern provinces(which are rightfully & legitimately ours anyway). l think we can do it, 5,000 against 40,000,000. lf your last expedition is anything to go on, then it should be easy for us.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0We might even get Chile to help & share the spoils with them. And it will keep you even further from Antarctica(which is not yours either!).
The next few years should be exciting, no?
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