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Honduras Santos/Chavez brokered deal was on request from Central America and Mexico

Monday, May 30th 2011 - 23:46 UTC
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Central American countries and Mexico requested Colombian president Juan Manuel Santos to help reconcile positions with Southern Cone countries so that former president Manuel Zelaya could return to Honduras, revealed Colombian Foreign Affairs minister Maria Angela Holguin in an interview with Bogotá’s El Espectador. Read full article

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  • Forgetit87

    “The incident was first condemned by all OAS members but cracks surfaced when some countries wanted to punish those involved in the ousting led by Brazil and Venezuela, while another group, with the US, Colombia and some Central American countries, opted for a constructive approach since the new Honduras government was legitimately elected and following the country’s electoral calendar.”

    Ha, f*** off, Mercopress! The elections were held under a coup regime, and a large part of the population, specially the poor, were precluded from going to vote by the military and the police! How legitemate is that, how constructive is taking such a fake elections at face value.

    After the coup, repression against the opposition and attacks against journalists, both native and foreign, have been common - in fact, even more frequent than under the coup regime. That speaks volumes about the current Hondurean regime, and how legitemate it is.

    May 31st, 2011 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Then it is sort of appropriate that the deal was negotiated by one 'Flawed Democracy' and a 'Hybrid Regime'. That also speaks volumes !

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

    As I've said before - just a bunch of tin-pot Dictatorships and banana Republics. Can't figure why the Falkland islanders don't wish to join :-)

    May 31st, 2011 - 03:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Let's see who else is a Flawed Democracy: Italy, France, every-western-right-winger-pet Israel, and potential superpower India. Also potential superpowers Russia and China are on the Hybrid Regime and Authoritarian Regime sections respectively. Are they all tin-pot Dictatorships and banana Republics? So who is not a banana republic or a dictatorship? Who's a decent country? Those who adopt each “article de foi” of the petit bourgeois liberal dogma behind the modern conception of democracy - even if those modern Decent Full Democracies don't respect human rights outside their own country? (In some cases, they don't respect that not even within their own borders; see US persecution of Wikileaks.) Well, people will give different definitions of what makes a country 'Decent' as opposed to being a banana republic. I myself would rather be Chinese than American or British. For me China is a much more decent country than immoral, hypocritical, and bankrupt western powers.

    By the way, I see some bitterness in your comment. Are you trying to compensate for the comment made by some Argentinian who's pointed out rather brashly how much of a decaying, bankrupt power the UK is? Well, since you announced yourself in no mean terms, I'll also put moderation aside: the UK is not only all those things I said above, but it is also a... banana republic. Worse yet, a banana monarchy. The UK behaves as nothing but a an arm of US power in the European continent. It doesn't even look like a sovereign, independent nation. Well, you must now that this - subservience to foreign interests - is part of the definition of banana republic.

    May 31st, 2011 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    No bitterness at all .... but you should be careful, your communist tendencies are showing !

    Ain't fishing wonderful .... it's the getting of a bite :-))

    May 31st, 2011 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Looks like you're not 'fishing, you're 'catching'!

    May 31st, 2011 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    The main aim of China's economic policies is industrial development, not income distribution. Clearly China has less in common with Cuba than it has with right-wing corporatist states of the kind that has been seen before in Japan and South Korea. There's nothing Communist in China nowadays. You're stuck in the 70s, red hoe.

    Jun 01st, 2011 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    I think he is saying that your communist tendencies are showing, not the Chinese government's.

    Jun 01st, 2011 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    I thought he said that because I had said I'd rather be Chinese than British. Be that as it may, how uncreative it is to dismiss those who notice First World's hypocrisy as Communist. That, I'd have expected more from an American.

    Jun 02nd, 2011 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    I have also posted recently on the defining characteristics of Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism, Autocracy and Dictatorships - in order to better define the characteristics of Democracy, which was being regularly misunderstood.

    Redhoyt's 'Flawed Democracy' and a 'Hybrid Regime' are models well displayed in South America,
    though I am most excercised by 'Subverted Democracy'.

    I think, if a leader or body want a different model, they should push for it in its own terms - like in old Russia with Communism;
    it is disingenuous to 'pretend democracy' to the people, and then *subvert* it irreversably through democracy's own structures to an authoritarian (or other) model.

    You shouldn't 'go at' Redhoyt when he says 'The emperor has no clothes'.

    I get the feeling that most of South America 'likes' a powerful demagogue-figure at the helm;
    but let's not pretend it's Democracy.

    Jun 02nd, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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