The UK press reacted to the US President Obama administration support of an Argentine inspired Organization of American States, OAS, unanimous declaration on the Falklands/Malvinas question that calls for sovereignty negotiations. Read full article
The world has changed and Britain has to come to grip with the new world order.
Latin America is on the rise and is very important to American interests.
I'm looking forward for comments from those British keyboard commandos with bad teeth/false teeth (Blowhards like Briton, Typhoon, Isolde, Zethee, Britishpuppybulldog, Rhaughry or whatever it's nickname is, etc etc and even from Geotard)...lol
But………….curiously, no Brit reacted on my other comment on the same thread........ I will repeat it here:
”56 Think (#) Jun 08th, 2011
TWIMC
About the ”Myth” of Malvinenses (Falkland Islanders) being in control of ”their” Oil and Mineral Resources…………..
Very little, if anything is available on Internet about who really decides about those resources……..
But……………… Let’s read some London Stock Exchange News from today, Wednesday 8 June 2011 about Falklands Oil and Gas Ltd.:
”Northern licence area approvals
On 24 May 2011, the Executive Council of the Falkland Islands approved a six month extension of Phase 1 of the northern licence area from 15 December to 15 June 2012. This extension requires the final approval of the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office…….....”
www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail.html?announcementId=10887201
This elucidates, once and for all, who really is in charge of the Oil and Mineral Resources on the Islands..........
And it is definitively NOT the Islanders.
OAS General Assembly welcomes the reaffirmation of the will of the Argentine Government to continue exploring all possible avenues towards a peaceful settlement of the dispute...
It is peaceful !
... Finally it decides to continue to examine the Question of the Malvinas Islands at its subsequent sessions until a definitive settlement has been reached thereon ....
Always does ....always will :-)
” .. “Britain will never give in to threats from Argentina or its tyrannical allies in places such as Venezuela”.
Still true !
#2. Latin America is like an old man's er*c*ion, the moment you think it's there, its gone!
#3 We aim to please, although we don't understand you denture fixation!
#4 let me enlighten you Think, the islanders are not an independent nation and therefore there remains some oversight in the UK. This is likely to continue as the islanders do not appear to want to become an independent nation. And who can blame them with the neighbour's that they have. The real point of course is that Argentina is not in charge, and unlikely to ever be so .... chuckle, chuckle :-)
#5 Marian .. you are missing the point. These article in the British mainstream press harden attitudes towards you and favour the islanders. Which is why they are put in there of course. But I'm glad we make you laugh.
Obama is no fan of the UK just because we set fire to his grandad or somesuch, but then he will be gone. If not soon then in another 5 years there'll be a new administration. And so it goes on. The OAS is nearly defunct anyway as the south American nations appear to be pulling away from the US and Canada. And even then, who cares.
Same old, same old .... Argentina will be doing the same old stuff in 10 years time, no nearer to getting its grubby little hands on what does not and has never belonged to it. And it will still be afraid of going to international arbitration because its case is unsound.
Argentina is f*rting in the wind, that's all she wrote!
Uh, no... actually it's still funny. And your mainstream press seems to go hand in hand with Mercopress in its endeavor to publish 'rubbish', like this article. ;-)
Maybe Mr Obama is trying to lessen tensions between the US and Venezuela.
Maybe Mr Obama woke up, looked at a map and realized the US is in the same continent as the rest of us.
And maybe, he realized that Europe is old, dry and faded, nothing to gain by siding with bad-teeth pirates like YOU.
What happen? The British got so excited when Obama came to their town a few days ago. Take a look Mr Obama toasting with Queen Elizabeth at the picture above. I remember a few weeks ago the Brits were so happy that he missed Argentina in his South American trip, I wonder what they think now :-))
Let me see. This OAS declaration calls for negotiation? Correct me if I am wrong. It doesnt make any demands or request a transfer of sovereignty or propose any form of sanctions. Is this the best the OAS can do?
In that case it is pretty toothless and is another set of words that cam be ignored. Argentina will never challenge the Islanders rights to self-determination in the ICJ which is the only course of action if it wishes to challenge UK soverignty.
Look at the Argies getting that warm feeling,and I dont mean their habit of pissing themselves when confronted in combat,enjoy your diplomatic victory it is the only one you will get
How is this a diplomatic victory? Looks like it is more of the same toothless gesturing. Remember these South Americans are lefties and as their great left wing heroe Chairman Mao said real power come from the barrel of a gun.
There is a reason the US signed this declaration, it get them some kudos in Argentina but as it doesn't contain any sanction it is pointless.
I'm sorry, but I don't know what the fuss is about. Typical Telegraph over-reaction to a meaningless non-event. The OAS declaration does not state anything new. It pretty much repeats previous ones not to mention UN resolutions. Effectively saying that Argentina and the UK should solve their dispute.
Importantly though it does not say that the Falklands are Argentine territory and it does not say that the only resolution to the dispute can be a transfer of control to Argentina.
Often it's what things don't say which is more important than what they do say.
Martinez. What fuss, I don't see the UK or FI gvt feeling under any pressure or making any moves to negotiate anything. If you think a few posts from a bunch of anonymous readers on Mercopress or a blog on the Telegraph indicates fuss then you have a seriously skewed view on sence of relative importance.
This is the same OAS that as I recall passed a resolution to condemn most vigorously the unjustified and disproportionate armed attack perpetuated by the United Kingdom on the same day that 2 Para freed 114 Falkland Islanders from the unsafe and unsanitary conditions that they were being held in.
I don't think that we paid any more or less attention then to their resolutions than we do now
Another nail in the coffin. The Falklands are doomed. It is only a matter of time. Argentina will regain the Falklands. Another slap in the face. Come on Argies. It is time you start being realistic and join reality. You have won another meaningly Public Relations battle. If this is enough to satisfy you then I am not worried. Why should I? The British flag is still flying in the Falklands. Argentina is still spouting impotent rhetoric. I am still British. The Falkland Islanders are still exercising their right for self-determination, which we will continue to exercise, forever and ever and ever. You may win these minute PR battles and piss of a right-wing blogger for a terrible newspaper, but the Falkland Islands will remain British.
You can take satisfcation in the small details and winning small PR battled, while I, along with the rest of us Islanders, will take satisfication that we will decide who wins the war, which is what brings us all here, and the whole purpose of Argentina's past, present and future stances. And at the end of the day the real winner is who gets to put up the flag in Stanley, and that will always be the Falkland Islanders.
If you RGs think our position is so weak now, why not send your troops in and take the Islands from us by force? There's obviously nothing stopping you.
Just remember, at that point, we will not accept you invading twice, and this time mainland Argentine targets will certainly be on the table, don't think you'll be safe in your beds next time around.
Oh come on, you have to win the war part first, jeez these RGs start the dreaming and forget about the reality part of things.
I'm sure that if the British are defeated that a tiny minority of Falklanders would bother to look at that link, they'd much rather join a resistance group, and prolong the RG agony until the next Task Force arrives to re-take the Islands.
The United Kingdom remains tiny compared with emerging power such as Latin America, united to move forward and change the world powers led by centuries. Already today, but that does not happen. The world changes.
You say:
”#4........the islanders are not an independent nation and therefore there remains some oversight in the UK. This is likely to continue as the islanders do not appear to want to become an independent nation…………………”
I say:
Them Islands are not an independent nation nor an autonomous territory nor a self governing region nor a self ruled area. Therefore there are under full UK oversight. And this is likely to continue until GB retires from the South Atlantic…………………”
As they say in Mythbusters:
”Myth” about the Malvinenses (Falkland Islanders) being in control of ”their” Oil and Mineral Resources:
BUSTED!
Think - squatters need evicting and the only way to evict squatters is with a legal writ and forced removal. Two things Argentina is unwilling to do as it lacks any legal position or the military capacity.
The reality is that Argentina has no power or leverage to exert any meaningful pressure. I am glad that all this posturing make you feel important though. You lot certainly need your setatonin levels bolstering.
Thanks for correcting me, on my iPhone which is a pain at times.
So what are you going to do about these alleged squatters? Don't tell me you have a secret plan like Jihad Jorge used to go on about. Will we see you at the ICJ anytime soon?
I guess Obama doesn't like pirats neither, He sided with the civilized world on thisone. too bad with Libya he didn't seem to be this civilized, maybe he is waiting for the meetings between Argentina and uk to show his true color, the old good cop bad cop scene on a political theater.
Perspective. Perspective is desperately needed. So America supports Argentina's call for discussions over sovereignty, again. Just like last year and most likely next year.
Since the US agreed the previous time at OAS, has Argentina taken significant steps in colonising the Falklands? Answer: No. And what significant change in this year's agreement will force this situation to change so Argentina can colonise the Falklands? Answer: None.
So why are the Argies on here seemingly overjoyed at the colonising of the Falkland Islands....? They have once again won a small PR battle. But like I have said, you will not win the war, because lets face it, you don’t win wars.
I take immense comfort and pleasure that something so insignificant can make the Argies so joyous. They know subconsciously that these small victories are the only victories they will ever win, so they better make the most of them.
Think; your poor interpretation of the relationship between the Falkland Islands and Britain is laughable. Once again an Argentine has added two and two together to get whatever answer they wanted. By your interpretation Canada, Australia and New Zealand are also British colonies. The structure you stated is that, a mere structure, Britain have to sign it off to ensure the governance of the Falkland Islands. They will not dictate how the Falklands wishes to exploit its resource, because it’s not their place. The fact that they have never dictated conditions and have never received a penny from the oil activities proves (and never will), once again, your highly dubious interpretation is incorrect.
Enjoy your PR victory Argies! Savour it. Because you will never win the war.
Read the views of ordinary Americans. Obama is close to toast. And ordinary Americans see Britain as their best and closest ally. And also that the Falklands, South Georgia and the South Shetlands are British. Until the Islanders wish otherwise.
Get used to it. Those 4 SSBNs we have say you can't win. Push your luck and not a single Argentine will survive. That's a promise.
Obama is a twit who doesn't check his facts; no way can the UK sit down and negotiate with Argentina on the question of sovereignty. Read on:
In the first place, the claim to the Falklands inserted in Argentina’s 1994 Constitution does
breach UN Resolution 31/49 of 1976. It was a unilateral act performed 18 years after the
passing of the UN Resolution (no previous Argentine Constitution mentioned the Falklands).
The EU treaties do not breach it; they simply list all EU overseas territories, and Britain’s
overseas territories were listed from 1973, three years before 31/49. Those treaties have been
widely misunderstood in Argentina; and even the Lisbon Treaty does not set that list of
territories in stone. Argentina’s constitution, however, does just that. It now requires any
negotiations over the Falklands to end in total British capitulation; there is no other possible
outcome. No arbitration is possible now either, since Argentina could not accept a result that
went against its constitution. UN Resolution 31/49 was intended to promote a negotiated
solution, but Argentina’s constitutional claim prevents just that. It is a breach of that Resolution.
Ha ha I havent laughed like this since I posted that joke about that wall around Argy land. Dear me we are shaking in our boots about what Obama has said, the nutters from Argy land seem to think that Obama will be around for the next twenty years, er Argy pirate nutters I think you will find that Obama is is a dead man walking as far as serving another term in office and as such his words do not mean diddly squat, zilch, nowt.
Pirat-Hunter------- The only Pirates that I can see are you lot, oh and do try and spell pirate properly will you there's a good little pirate. And you don't honestly think your part of the world is civilized do you? Sorry I should not say honestly to an an Argy should I, as non knows what honestly means.
Fido Dido------ Why would you be looking forward to my comments, I always insult little pirates from Argy land, you included little doggy woggy, here Fido here fido fetch that nice bone. Only a complete and utter idiot and moron would look forward to be insulted. Oh I forgot for a moment you are an Argentine who thinks every person from Britain has a mouth full of bad molars and probably thinks his country is civilized, see you are an idiot and a moron.
Prodigious youth Typhoon assembles his sample of ordinary Americans from anonymous commenters on a website.
Well, Obama's approval will vary mainly according to the US economy's performance. Its military success or failures voters will also take into account. The US's position re: the FI is not even close to make it to the list of things Americans will have in mind when voting for the next presidential elections. And AFAIK, Americans are more disappointed at the Congress - the Republican dominated Congress - than at Obama himself.
42 Typhoon, harrier61, Jack Bonner, Clare Cockwell , blancojoe
iane, ghostdance, MarkM and many more.
I read some of those comments and most of them are yours, your rear end must hurt badly after the kick recieved by Obama.
This conflict is not resolved with resentment and revanchism. Resolved to peace and dialogue.
As the world public opinion is internalized conflict over the Falklands, many countries are sympathetic to the claim of sovereignty. And even in the UK itself believe it is possible to reach an agreement acceptable to both parties. Just so long see Web journals and specialized in the field.
It is very important to the work of these years of Nestor and Cristina Kirchner to bet as poetic state of disarmament and non-violence and opt for dialogue and peace among peoples, the fact is that Argentina has decreased significantly its military investment merely reducing the bare essentials. This contrasts with the aggressive policy arms of Great Britain to hold a suspected nuclear base in the islands and yet continues to humanitarian bombing civilians in Libya. This has fallen badly in public opinion worldwide.
This is just a small step on the road to recovery of the islands and respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty removed in 1833. The British people can live on the islands, while respecting their culture and interests, but under the sovereignty Argentina without any problem, as the Welsh in Patagonia. The Welsh are fully integrated into society Argentina.
As Luther King said: There are no roads to peace, peace is the road. I think most English people have the same deep feeling. Peace, dialogue and nonviolence.
Oh Britishbullpuppydog, spare me your tough talk, and chill. So now I'm argentine? okay whatever, nothing wrong with being an Argentine. They are good people (better than ugly brits with bad teeth)
FYI Bullpuppydog (retard)....I'm Dutch and live in the US where I can see and hear that Obama will win again, because that's the elite's best man to continue with the nonsenses they are bussy with now (Destroying the US)
Well well well, again the rats are showing us why the sewers are there best bet, some terrorist slags us of, and backs Argentina, the world condemns, but a few argie bloggers who by their own actions shame their own country and people, and humiliates themselves, by thinking it great,
Backing up to sentiments of murderous thugs just goes to show the limit of your intelligence, and to be backed by a tulip is a disgrace, if it was not so funny, and what have you accomplished, nothing but shown the world how pathetic you are, you don’t even grasp the fact, that in any of their bombing’s members of your own family may well be hurt, , but then again, the truth is, coming from the sewer , you argie bloggers no nothing else do you, so go on slag us all off, as long as we know where you come from and are going to, we will also know that the Falkland’s are safe, and you will be forever gutter rats, go home to the gutter and take your vile stupid childish comment with you,
NEXT .,
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Referring to, the American association with the like of including Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and Daniel Ortega’s Nicaragua “who support he terrorists, and thus are just as bad,, so don’t get confused argie, ..
Fido Dido.... Oh so your Dutch big deal, And their was I thinking that the Dutch were an intelligent race of people, just goes to show that in every barrel of apples there will always be a few bad ones. Oh and I don't know who you are talking to over in the States but the people that I talk to don't give a rats arse for Obama and think he is a one one big joke that they will be put right soon.
As I said in my last message of insults only complete morons and idiots would look forward to be insulted, but just for you I will rephrase it now I know you come from tulip land. Only complete Dutch idiots and morons along with Pirate Argys would look forward to be insulted.
Oh I have a joke just for you little doggy.
How do you find a well balanced Dutchman …………….
He’s the one with a chip on both shoulders.
Oh go on then I have another one.
In Tulip land
1. You can get arrested for growing plants, but not for smoking them.
2. You can make jokes about the Belgians and still drink their beer.
3. a. You can legally kill yourself
b. You can legally be killed
4. You're exactly like the Germans, except that nobody hates you.
5. You think you are a world power, but everyone else thinks Copenhagen is your capital.....
6. You get to insult people and defend yourself by saying it's a national tradition.
7. You can put your finger in a dyke and it will save your country
8. You live in the most densely populated country in Europe, and still you've never seen your neighbours.
9. If the economy is bad, blame the Germans. If a war is started, blame the Germans. If you lose your keys, blame the Germans.
10. Bikes are public property. Locks are a challenge.
Facinating hysterical drivel on here! First of all Think convinced we are all under the daily thumb of imperial colonial masters- if so Think how is it then that nobody from UK can come here to live and work unless they have a Work Permit granted by our Immigration Dept? Also how come we can(and have done) evicted back to UK someone who has committed a crime? Reality is as others have indeed pointed out- we have internal self - government and control over our offshore EEZ,s fish or mineral. Maybe you will finally believe reality if commercial oil is found and developed and then you can track the revenue into FIG - not HMG!
Then Marcos with his new passport - so what I dont need one nor want one! Then Raul with his story of a military nuclear missile or bomb store hear and the nasty British!
And it all started because the OAS- who have no influence internationally - passed the same resolution that then have done for umpteen years - which has produced what effect over these years?- answer Nil! Get used to politics boys - it was-is-and probably always will be a superficial game of you scratch my back here and I,ll scratch yours, out of those areas where we need to work together - then those countries often go different ways! But in reality we all know who will stand alongside who if and when the shit really hits the fan!
So we here in the Islands are not bothered - because we live in reality.
Think is still hopeful of a money solution but still failing to see that, with half an eye on Antartica, the equation is never going to tip in his favour. Fundamental flaw in your argument Think, squatters have no right to be where they are, but the Falkland islanders have every right which is why Argentina is so afraid of going to the ICJ.
Rolly seems to be living on a different planet and thinks that the Brits want a fair settlement, not realising that we achieved that in 1833.
All in all, the usual load of cr*p from the far side.
So! Falkland Islands still British? Of course they are ... it's their choice ... but the Argies don't understand that. In another 178 years they'll still be looking enviously across the water and grasping at any straw that comes their way.
Which is exactly what the OAS was ..... a straw for a drowning man!
I do wonder sometimes what would happen if the British Government turned around and said, Hey, ok, we'll negotiate? Of course nothing would come of it but then what would all these American old boys clubs write down at the end of the buisiness class bash ??
Yawn, Poor Britishbullpuppydog, we are like the Germans, only better and correct, nobody hates us..lol. Only retards who never went to school (like you, a perfect example) believes that Copenhagen is in Holland. Ahh, those brits are so brilliant...anyway, keep it up Bullpuppydog, keep barking...that's an order.
Such a wonderful bunch of people these Argentines, they whisper such sweet nothings in our shell likes, and tap the same on the interweb; I'm sure that the World reads the pertinent and obviously entirely truthful information they make available here, and is persuaded that they are a reasonable people, with reasonable demands...
Then again, maybe not eh? No matter how they dress it up, its a load of old Peronist bollocks from the 1930s / 40s, a completely manufactured story to excite the lowest common denominator, and unite them as a mass of low forehead humanity ready to do the bidding of the insular flawed democracy that rules them. They remain uneducated by the policy of the state, which is to indoctrinate them all in the Peronism Fantasy World, where Argentina stands proudly at its centre, the rightful ruler of Latin America.
We see how effective this indoctrination is on this very forum, when the brightest of a not terribly bright bunch, spew their hatred and lies regarding all things British.
We're dehumanised, regarded as second-class humans, a land of pirates no less; those Nazi's that were given safe haven after WW2 have certainly worked their usual magic, such wonderful mentors of the new Argentine Republic (lets not mention the missing 30,000 eh?), its all a prelude to invading the Falklanders, annexing the fantasy, driving away the nasty British. It worked so well they actually used it in 1982, FAIL.
Now, they seem to think if they whine loudly enough...
heritage foundation is a so called conservative think thank. The same crying brit works there who wrote the article from who Mercopress copied it. Title shows President Obama Should Side with Britain over the Falkland Islands. But guess what, he should according to that clown with bad teeth, but Obozo doesn't. Get over it. besides nothing changed, so stop crying like a baby that the US doesn't support you at all. Here in the US nobody gives a damn about you brits, the UK nor what's happening in the south atlantic.
President's come, presidents go .... some get a blow job somewhere in the middle. Not important. This one had to say nice things on his visit to the UK, but probably through gritted teeth. He may get one more term, he may not ... but then he's history.
And I know that no-one in the US gives a damn about the south Atlantic (they actually think the south Atlantic lies off the Florida coast) ..... but that's the point, don't you see. All it means are empty words and nothing more .... and the islands remain British :-)
yes, indeed it remains british. Let's see for how long. I don't know that answer and neither do you even if you pretend to know. So far, they, the Falklanders prefer to be slaves to their master, the queen, that's the owner of the Island, and we both know that those Falklanders aren't capable of ruling the island on their own, for now.
Enjoy your PR victory Argies! Savour it. Because you will never win the war
AHAHHHHHHHHHHaaa,Do not worry,I bet on Argentina's future,not uk!!
American views -
washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/opinion-zone/2011/06/obama-again-slaps-britain-face-backs-oas-assault-right-self-determination
Another brilliant shorcut from lady bug.
He undestand them,because the are born liars as lady bug.
Like the heritage foundation told that Nestor Kirchner parents came with the nazis,while his grandparents came from Switzerland in 1885,to Santa Fe province...
So ridiculuos that 'heritage',clowns like Salt & pepper
Think - unfortunately for you there is no way that Argentina can tip the cost benefit equation. You are deluded if you think you can. The FI are managing pretty well on their own regardless what your bunch of corrupt and wealthy 'Marxist' leaders are attempting.
When oil eventually flows to market from the FI then a new stream of income will emerge. I am afraid that all your verbally supportive allies will not be wiling to obstruct such potential and the FI will have many well endowed suitors.
Where will the oil go? Cape Town, Miami, Chile or perhaps Brazil. After all the Brazilians are happy to see FI seafood arrive at their docks.
Can't wait to hear the Thinks, Nicos & Marcoses etc from our neighbour scream, rant, rave & whine when the black gold starts to flow.!!
The keyboards will be running hot that day!
All I have read on this issue is that Obama as said that he would like Britain and Argentina to talk about it all. That's a quite a few miles away from supporting the pirate country of Argentina. They can read into this article what they want but be it 5 years be it 50 years be it 1,000 years the Falklands will still be the Falklands unless the people on those Islands want to be part of the pirate country of Argentina. As one Iron lady onece said.
As Margaret Thatcher famously reminded the world, in an address to the House of Commons after the Argentine invasion in April 1982, the Falklands are, and always will remain British:
The people of the Falkland Islands, like the people of the United Kingdom, are an island race. Their way of life is British; their allegiance is to the Crown. They are few in number, but they have the right to live in peace, to choose their own way of life and to determine their own allegiance. It is the wish of the British people and the duty of Her Majesty’s Government to do everything that we can to uphold that right. That will be our hope and our Endeavour and, I believe, the resolve of every Member of the House.
So there you have it Pirate race, tough titty. now go away and cry.
1) Siding with Argentina over the Malvinas dispute.
2) Calling France America’s strongest ally.
3) Downgrading the Special Relationship.
Obama very rarely refers to the Special Relationship. London is now
treated in Washington as though it were the same as any other
country.
4) Betraying Britain to appease Moscow over the New START Treaty.
5) Placing a “boot on the throat” of BP
6) Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7) Insulting words from the State Department.
From a senior State Department official ”There’s nothing special about
Britain. You’re just the same as the other 190 countries in the world.
You shouldn’t expect special treatment
8)Undermining British influence in NATO
The only thing special about the Special Relationship is the amount of self-deception you need to believe in it.
Well what can we say to all those brilliant remarks from argie bloggers?
Desperate words from a desperate nation by a desperate people
Loser in war losers in talk and loser on here.
Argentina the land of desperate losers mmm
..
keep it up and the beheading of pirats and theieves from britain will become a new sports in all of Latin America, that is a sport I would love to become an olympian at it, if brits didn't learn anytrhing about Argentina in 1807 they are going to learn it now. all we need is a few nukes and that shit rock in the ocean will become DU nuclear waste, let GOD sort this retards in heaven. in any case all we need is to hi-jack and sink a few of those fishing ships and ther rest of them will go extinct, come on guy the somalis are doing it I am sure Argentine's can top that.
prat hunger you are a child or the uneducated class, learnt from other argie bloger, your crap shames your own people, go back to the asylum please, and your British passport is withdrawn forthwith ,
1-Britain had leaked US @ss since it independence.
2-Britain always acted as the US dog.
3-Britain always likes to talk about her special relationship with US.
4-Britain call her self as the best US ally.
5-Britain goes to any American war if US just ask for.
6-Britain is the useful tool of US in Europe.
Etc, etc, etc.
now
1-We were against US’s world policy after the WWI and WWII.
2-We have never partnered with them to declare war to Germany.
3-We have competed against them for influence and economy power.
4- We have kicked the @ss of one of their ambassador in the past
5-We were and are the most anti-American country (according with them) in the whole America.
6- We had sized their cargo and we still are holding it.
Etc, etc, etc.
And US supports Us instead of Britain?
It is not a good joke about the geopolitical value of Britain in the new world order?
Have you ever saw you people more in denial and brainless than the Britishammed?
I guess if we ask to Obozo to lend us some carriers to invade Britain he will say which one do you prefer?
Boy what an ego,
So the magnificent 3, will ride into the sunset with their bloggers in tow,
Obama the fool, Ortega the nut and Hugo the bear.
All smoking nicotine weed,
For a country that hates the yanks so much, you don’t do too badly at taking their money and investment,
But you are of course right over the fact we stand alongside the yanks in fighting, but hey, someone has to stay behind and look after the women lol
To the people who said that negociate is not transfer the malvinas sovereignty.
well that what everyone in the OAS say, in the OAS they are talking about the sovereignty claim that argentina is doing. there is no other thing to negociate.
and US said they are in favor to support the negociation, didnt you understand it yet? the US is losing power over latinamerica (Unasur, Mercosur, Chinese investment,etc) and their economy is stuck so... as John Foster Dulles said once
US doesnt have friends...Just Interests.
too many years laughing about how countries betrayed us in the war, wow that karma things exist!! LOL
2-We have never partnered with them to declare war to Germany.
Says it all dont it
Mengele moved to Argentina in 1949. He moved from one South American country to another to avoid being captured like Adolf Eichmann. He also lived under a number of aliases.
in any case all we need is to hi-jack and sink a few of those fishing ships and ther rest of them will go extinct, come on guy the somalis are doing it I am sure Argentine's can top that.
Shocking, Pirat hunter talking of becoming....well...a pirate. As the man who advocates ridding the world of thieves and pirates maybe he'll do us all a favour and commit suicide.
Just do it Pirat, you won't be missed (except by your cabin boy perhaps).
Are you sure ...? So tell me the Queen of the United Kingdom. How many other places is she also Queen of? And the Commonwealth, how does that work? And our place on the top table at the UN, nothing to do with empire?
@85Tte Estevez,
No you haven't lost an empire, yet.
But that day may come when you get booted out of Patagonia. Of course you will be a long way then from that prize you so greedily covet...... Antarctica.l am sure that we can share it with Chile.
@85Tte Estevez,
No you haven't lost an empire, yet.
But that day may come when you get booted out of Patagonia. Of course you will be a long way then from that prize you so greedily covet...... Antarctica.l am sure that we can share it with Chile
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
Nice joke!
Let see: How do plan to do that?
With uk help?
Let see reality:
Let's see:Jim Rogers the UK is FINISHED !!!!!!!!!!
Being bankrupt doesn't mean we are finished ... Hell, Argentina proves that!
Argentina is Boom ...... now that could happen :-)
Do something useful for uk: Do some work,instead of wasting time in non-sense.
Or better,start packing,from uk....
MAy be you can follow corned beef,and work in kuwait..
Soo long lady bug,at this moment Argentina is booming...
Lots of jobs....
91 Argentina is not booming I just spent 10 days in BA and it is as dirty and disgusting as it was 5 years ago when I left. If it was booming you would not have cartaneros still searching through garbage every night nor children begging in restaurants! How about a U$4 coffee, how long can people make $U500/mo afford that?
It is amazing you believe you government lies, how dumb are you?
Marcos I think I saw you searching through the garbage in front of my Hotel, did you find the chicken I left you? It was only a little rancid.
What a filthy place you live in I am sorry you people think that booming means everyone is getting poorer with broken streets and sidewalks and every growing slums. Maybe you need to travel a little bit to see how civilized people live. Oh wait with U$500/mo salary you can't even afford 3G, sorry.
Are you prepared for another crash? When will the peso be $5/1? Sept? Like that 30% inflation? At least I can travel anywhere I want anytime I want. Where do you go, Mar Del Plata? Brown water and cold wet sand full of peasants from the villas and farms. Lovely!
Carter II will be gone next year, but you will be stuck with a crazy overly medicated botoxed CFK and all the cronies she has around her. Why don't you look up Kleptocracy and see if that definition fits the most foul country you live in.
Lets see how the civilised world lives in FredMex neighbourhood.
About 6000 homeless are in W DC with a population of just 600.000 (a little town) compared with a huge city like Buenos Aires with 3.M residents and 6m visitors every day.
Isolde, you will never have antartica, because your monarchy doesnt have anything to ask for it. maybe you think that you could use malvinas to have a reason to get it but not, malvinas is to the UN a bilateral dispute which means that doesnt belong to UK or Argentina until the final solution, but argentina doesnt need malvians to get something of antartica, thats why you would never have antartica. if malvinas doent come back we will keep this bilateral dispute forever, so you will never have anything to get antartica.
Patagonia? oh poor guy its seems we were there first...
the best part will come as you said in the soon future, we have the biggest reserve of water in latinamerica, and latinamerica has the biggest part of watter in the world. we have food we have water, what do you have? you can live with just water and food, but you in those little tiny islands from the north, well there is nothing more to say right? but dont worry we will accept scottish and irish people... lets see how many time will you live with your sterlins when its turn into just useless metal and paper...
We don't have to ask ... our claim is already in and well ahead of Argentina's.
As for the dispute. Can it be 'bilateral' when one side hardly acknowledges that there is a dispute? After all, we have no doubt about our sovereignty' :-)
@100 Searinox,
Maybe we will not get Antarctica, but you certainly won't. When the world runs out of fresh water, the big boys like China, Russia, lndia,Usa & the European Union will be putting their claims in and/or fighting over it.
Argentina(& maybe us too)will be just in the way & collateral damage.
So l wouldn't crow too loud just yet.
We must remove all British colonials from South America and reclaim Malvinas for the motherland. No British should be allowed to live in Malvinas! Teach them a lesson for their crimes of 1982. Argentine Military must take power and arrest the liberals and coward military who lost us 1982 war! Argentine must work with Obama to arrest colonial operators who persecuted his family in Kenya and exterminate the colonial forces in Malvinas.
Isolde if we dont get it then we drop a nuclear bomb in there and nobody will get it... at least that you want to drink contaminated water, that counts on you.
Stick up your junta, you always showing videos or news from bbc or the sun... its like i show you links about clarin or La Nacion in here jaj and you need to take a look about the imports that uk has, almost all of it is in food. what do you have when almost all the imports that your monarchy does is the same it has...
RedHoyt it is a bilateral problem because the UN says it is... and if the UK want the diplomatic power that the UN gives to them they have to accept everything that UN says. i never heard any country saying that malvians belong to UK.
@106 Searinox,
Thats the type of answer that l expected from your country.
Well, you won't get Antarctica. lts not yours anyway.
You don't have any nuclear bombs, hopefully you never will.
The mind boggles,Argentina with a nuclear bomb would be like letting children play with petrol & matches.
Think, how do you know who Filippo is? Sounds like another Pirat-Hunter to me.
@110Think,
l have to agree after reading another of his posts.
His spelling is of a much higher standard than his grammar.
Don't know what he is yet but l don't think he is Argentine.
l think he is deliberately distorting his grammar.
we dont? lol, sure... we dont, uk didnt have neither :)...
#108 i think you didnt understand what i tried to say...
#107 please the arrogance is a big mistake
#111 no problemo? xD lol
if the UK would try to get it by force, of course we would. if you can use force we can too. or do you think you are the only one who can do whatever you want?
but as i said, if we were in that situation.
@110 im proud to be an authentic deranged argie xD
At least 'Think' thinks some of his countrymen in here are deranged, maybe one day he'll see the truth, although it doesn't really matter, he'll be long gone before the status quo changes, and so will everyone else.
I wonder what the consequences would be for Argentina, if they ever dropped a Nuclear Weapon on either the Falkland Islands or Antarctica.
Somehow I don't think US/Argentine relations would be so good, and UN/Argentine relations would be poor too, and the spectre of the UK launching a retaliatory Nuclear Strike might make UNASUR, MERCOSUR, and the OAS fall apart at the seams while ALL the countries, including Chavezville, would be trying to ensure they aren't also a legitimate target or at least no downwind of the Mushroom Clouds over Argentina.
'Think', you really do have some particularly thick morons as bedfellows, I'm assuming the men sex is unusually good for you, as you appear not to disagree with the crass stupidity in evidence here.
At the risk of the post being removed by the Editor
Adoctrinamiento pertenece a la Argentina, or in English, Indoctrination belongs to Argentina.
1. You don't have a nuke.
2. Setting off a nuke down there would melt the place, causing rise in oceans world wide and possibily killing billions of people.
I suppose we are lucky you dont have nukes and aren't the leader of your nation.
#116 I established a situation to do that, so yep you misunderstood what i said.
#113 mmm i think you need to know how are our relations with the others now because it seems you are reading something from the 90'...
take a look about what argentina is doing in the UN, it is not just malvinas case.
Wireless everyone is crazy right now, cant you see?
I didn't even type anything about a nuke in my first post. I just quoted what you wrote. I understood perfectly well what you ment, if you didn't get your own way you would nuke the place which is an incredibly stupid thing to do because it wouldn't harm us at all, and if you did manage to break off certan ice shelfs would just cause massive tsunamis in Argentina while killing off loads of the fish you guys catch yourselves.
#118 ne i think that if we were in a water problem situation, then it wouldnt matter the fish itselfs. besides it would create tsunamis, it would change the temperature from the seas, elevate the waters, but tsunamis are because of underwater earthquakes.
#119 please you ar one of the most craziest in this forum
1, she is great at losing
2, she is great at bragging
3, she wants what she can never have
4, she steals what she can’t negotiate?
5, she is great at telling lies
6, she is great at brain washing
7, she is great at hand ball [not foot ball?
8, she has a great navy [in port]
9 she has a great leader who flatters herself
10, she has great bloggers, which will defend until death,
As long as it’s not them first ??
Oh and they like to list things by numbers .
long live crazy horse neigh neigh
Dim - I asked this question elsewhere but never got an answer so I'll ask you. Argentina maintains a lot of 'bases' in British Antartica while the British only have a few bases plus a ship. Why?
... Argentina's claim to the Antarctic Peninsula overlaps with the Antarctic claims of Chile, 53°W to 90°W, and the UK claims, 20°W to 80°W, and is not recognized by most other countries ...
Because the Treaty forbids the militarisation of Antartica, and the soldiers you have there cannot have weapons ....... but the Treaty does not include the sea areas. Our ships and subs can be armed to the teeth however!
It is only the USA who has the gun full of nuke-bullets and the latest high-tech fighter planes, subs, war-vessels, aircraft carriers and tanks. The also have powerful laser-cannons circling in orbit that few might know about, but still both the UK and RGs keep thinking they are the SUN in this planet... IF the USA says Britain and Argentina should talk, they will have to, although the most plausible thing to happen is Argentina will lose the Malvinas forever... unless there is united and coordinated support from all Latin american states in blockading the British products and factories and citizens... THIS is of course delirious thinking, LATAM cannot coordinate a nice BBQ along with good music...
Argentina and the UK are today mere actors in the WORLD STAGE owned and directed and written by just one nation: THE USA
Argentina and the UK are today mere actors in the WORLD STAGE owned and directed and written by just one nation: THE USA
THE BEST COMMENT IVE EVER READ IN YEARS IN THIS SITE.
Obama will go for the Black Gold (if they can find commercial oil) and they will occupy the islands, whoever lives there.. US never care any of your points
You natives, tell me please, is this the artist (married to an Argentine girl, btw) that was caught by the police while stealing cabbage from his neighbours' garden in the middle of the night?
???
What a load of rubbish, the British will do what they have always done,
with or without help from the American’s, yes it would be nice, and welcomed but make no mistake, the Americans do not have that much pulling power, if they did, then they would have stopped the military cutbacks, as this mean that they carry most of the can, so the your item is wrong, the British will go it alone if it has to, after all who is to deal with, Christina Hugo and Ortega , mmmmthe 3 wise monkeys lol
“It is only the USA who has the gun full of nuke-bullets and the latest high-tech fighter planes, subs, war-vessels, aircraft carriers and tanks... The also have powerful laser-cannons circling in orbit that few might know about”
And don’t forget the “microware bean weapons” similar to what I will make with my old microwave to cook little brains. Ha ha
And guess who is going to be my first target?
@briton
Where are you going to go alone eh? No money, no carries, no Sea Harriers, no jobs, no army, no hope, no flag?
Come on Briton take advantage that Cristina K is giving DNI to Brits for free down here, may be this is your last opportunity to find a decent well paid job.
may be this is your last opportunity to find a decent well paid job.
Would we get a job down there seeing all your kids are working instead of going to school,would explain a lot about you nicotine, missing school and all that
@ 138, actually we have two LPDs currently at sea, HMS Illustrious, and HMS Ocean. Lusty is undergoing sea trials after a refit, and Ocean is off the coast of Libya.
If we have no money how is it we can afford to give £800 Million in Overseas Aid to people that aren't British? How is it that we can afford to refit an old carrier? How is it that we can afford to build two brand new carriers? We still have an army capable of fighting beyond the two hour window available to Argentine land forces, we are the Land of Hope & Glory, and you're still scared of out flags, indeed the only ones you lot carry are white.
Apparently (I am sceptical myself), we have created 500,000 new jobs in the UK within the last 18 months, and Unemployment figures are down, so I'm unsure whether offering us free toilet paper is an advantage.
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Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0V
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The world has changed and Britain has to come to grip with the new world order.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Latin America is on the rise and is very important to American interests.
I'm looking forward for comments from those British keyboard commandos with bad teeth/false teeth (Blowhards like Briton, Typhoon, Isolde, Zethee, Britishpuppybulldog, Rhaughry or whatever it's nickname is, etc etc and even from Geotard)...lol
Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0(3) FidoDido
Jun 09th, 2011 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some of them Brits already reacted on my comment about this topic at:
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/06/06/falklands-approves-45.5million-2011-2012-budget-with-a-surplus
But………….curiously, no Brit reacted on my other comment on the same thread........ I will repeat it here:
”56 Think (#) Jun 08th, 2011
TWIMC
About the ”Myth” of Malvinenses (Falkland Islanders) being in control of ”their” Oil and Mineral Resources…………..
Very little, if anything is available on Internet about who really decides about those resources……..
But……………… Let’s read some London Stock Exchange News from today, Wednesday 8 June 2011 about Falklands Oil and Gas Ltd.:
”Northern licence area approvals
On 24 May 2011, the Executive Council of the Falkland Islands approved a six month extension of Phase 1 of the northern licence area from 15 December to 15 June 2012. This extension requires the final approval of the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office…….....”
www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail.html?announcementId=10887201
This elucidates, once and for all, who really is in charge of the Oil and Mineral Resources on the Islands..........
And it is definitively NOT the Islanders.
Chuckle chuckle…….”
haha..
Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Another slap in the face for Britain: the Obama administration sides with Argentina and Venezuela (...)”
Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hahaha, what a hilarious title, that of that Telegraph article. The resentment is all too evident, though.
I like the Kirchner regime part... what the hell is that supposed to mean?
Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0As if it was some 70's gorilla group or something... so stupid.
4 Think, This picture of Stephen Luxton, the new Director of Mineral Resources was taken soon after he read that article:
Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/31073/0x0/stephen-luxton-.jpg
OAS General Assembly welcomes the reaffirmation of the will of the Argentine Government to continue exploring all possible avenues towards a peaceful settlement of the dispute...
Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is peaceful !
... Finally it decides to continue to examine the Question of the Malvinas Islands at its subsequent sessions until a definitive settlement has been reached thereon ....
Always does ....always will :-)
” .. “Britain will never give in to threats from Argentina or its tyrannical allies in places such as Venezuela”.
Still true !
#2. Latin America is like an old man's er*c*ion, the moment you think it's there, its gone!
#3 We aim to please, although we don't understand you denture fixation!
#4 let me enlighten you Think, the islanders are not an independent nation and therefore there remains some oversight in the UK. This is likely to continue as the islanders do not appear to want to become an independent nation. And who can blame them with the neighbour's that they have. The real point of course is that Argentina is not in charge, and unlikely to ever be so .... chuckle, chuckle :-)
#5 Marian .. you are missing the point. These article in the British mainstream press harden attitudes towards you and favour the islanders. Which is why they are put in there of course. But I'm glad we make you laugh.
Obama is no fan of the UK just because we set fire to his grandad or somesuch, but then he will be gone. If not soon then in another 5 years there'll be a new administration. And so it goes on. The OAS is nearly defunct anyway as the south American nations appear to be pulling away from the US and Canada. And even then, who cares.
Same old, same old .... Argentina will be doing the same old stuff in 10 years time, no nearer to getting its grubby little hands on what does not and has never belonged to it. And it will still be afraid of going to international arbitration because its case is unsound.
Argentina is f*rting in the wind, that's all she wrote!
:-)
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Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Uh, no... actually it's still funny. And your mainstream press seems to go hand in hand with Mercopress in its endeavor to publish 'rubbish', like this article. ;-)
Maybe Mr Obama is trying to lessen tensions between the US and Venezuela.
Maybe Mr Obama woke up, looked at a map and realized the US is in the same continent as the rest of us.
And maybe, he realized that Europe is old, dry and faded, nothing to gain by siding with bad-teeth pirates like YOU.
Sheers!
Clowns
Maybe they said the same last year? And the year before?
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amazing how important dentistry is to you people.
What happen? The British got so excited when Obama came to their town a few days ago. Take a look Mr Obama toasting with Queen Elizabeth at the picture above. I remember a few weeks ago the Brits were so happy that he missed Argentina in his South American trip, I wonder what they think now :-))
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let me see. This OAS declaration calls for negotiation? Correct me if I am wrong. It doesnt make any demands or request a transfer of sovereignty or propose any form of sanctions. Is this the best the OAS can do?
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0In that case it is pretty toothless and is another set of words that cam be ignored. Argentina will never challenge the Islanders rights to self-determination in the ICJ which is the only course of action if it wishes to challenge UK soverignty.
Look at the Argies getting that warm feeling,and I dont mean their habit of pissing themselves when confronted in combat,enjoy your diplomatic victory it is the only one you will get
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0How is this a diplomatic victory? Looks like it is more of the same toothless gesturing. Remember these South Americans are lefties and as their great left wing heroe Chairman Mao said real power come from the barrel of a gun.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is a reason the US signed this declaration, it get them some kudos in Argentina but as it doesn't contain any sanction it is pointless.
I'm sorry, but I don't know what the fuss is about. Typical Telegraph over-reaction to a meaningless non-event. The OAS declaration does not state anything new. It pretty much repeats previous ones not to mention UN resolutions. Effectively saying that Argentina and the UK should solve their dispute.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Importantly though it does not say that the Falklands are Argentine territory and it does not say that the only resolution to the dispute can be a transfer of control to Argentina.
Often it's what things don't say which is more important than what they do say.
It is also only a Telegraph blog. When it comes to the Islands the UK holds all of the aces and Argentina has yet to even wager a bet.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0They think big but act little.
Let the oil flow!
If there were oil reserves at Falkland around ,then,
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obama ( US) wouldn't suppport Argentina !
How is this a diplomatic victory?
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“victory”
Taking the piss :-)
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Geo - what on earth are RKH flow testing at the moment then? Love to hear your answer!
Jun 09th, 2011 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it is not that important, then why all this fuss? It IS important, even though you pretend it is not. Slap in the face II. LOL
Jun 09th, 2011 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Martinez. What fuss, I don't see the UK or FI gvt feeling under any pressure or making any moves to negotiate anything. If you think a few posts from a bunch of anonymous readers on Mercopress or a blog on the Telegraph indicates fuss then you have a seriously skewed view on sence of relative importance.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the same OAS that as I recall passed a resolution to condemn most vigorously the unjustified and disproportionate armed attack perpetuated by the United Kingdom on the same day that 2 Para freed 114 Falkland Islanders from the unsafe and unsanitary conditions that they were being held in.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think that we paid any more or less attention then to their resolutions than we do now
Another nail in the coffin. The Falklands are doomed. It is only a matter of time. Argentina will regain the Falklands. Another slap in the face. Come on Argies. It is time you start being realistic and join reality. You have won another meaningly Public Relations battle. If this is enough to satisfy you then I am not worried. Why should I? The British flag is still flying in the Falklands. Argentina is still spouting impotent rhetoric. I am still British. The Falkland Islanders are still exercising their right for self-determination, which we will continue to exercise, forever and ever and ever. You may win these minute PR battles and piss of a right-wing blogger for a terrible newspaper, but the Falkland Islands will remain British.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can take satisfcation in the small details and winning small PR battled, while I, along with the rest of us Islanders, will take satisfication that we will decide who wins the war, which is what brings us all here, and the whole purpose of Argentina's past, present and future stances. And at the end of the day the real winner is who gets to put up the flag in Stanley, and that will always be the Falkland Islanders.
@Redhoyt
Jun 09th, 2011 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#2. Latin America is like an old man's er*c*ion, the moment you think it's there, its gone!
I just wonder how do you know that Red, own experience perhaps or, or, or...te comes la bala?
Ha ha ha
Try with Sildenafil Red and avoid alcohol is the enemy your PiPI or use nitrato ni trato de sacarla y menos ponerla.
ha ha ha
Sorry mate but was so funny your expression that deserved a joke.
: )
Dim - Argentina IS that old man !
Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you RGs think our position is so weak now, why not send your troops in and take the Islands from us by force? There's obviously nothing stopping you.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just remember, at that point, we will not accept you invading twice, and this time mainland Argentine targets will certainly be on the table, don't think you'll be safe in your beds next time around.
For the islanders wishing to stay in Malvinas, here is an important link that you will need in the future.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.mininterior.gov.ar/pasaporte/
Oh come on, you have to win the war part first, jeez these RGs start the dreaming and forget about the reality part of things.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure that if the British are defeated that a tiny minority of Falklanders would bother to look at that link, they'd much rather join a resistance group, and prolong the RG agony until the next Task Force arrives to re-take the Islands.
The United Kingdom remains tiny compared with emerging power such as Latin America, united to move forward and change the world powers led by centuries. Already today, but that does not happen. The world changes.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(9) Redhoyt
Jun 09th, 2011 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”#4........the islanders are not an independent nation and therefore there remains some oversight in the UK. This is likely to continue as the islanders do not appear to want to become an independent nation…………………”
I say:
Them Islands are not an independent nation nor an autonomous territory nor a self governing region nor a self ruled area. Therefore there are under full UK oversight. And this is likely to continue until GB retires from the South Atlantic…………………”
As they say in Mythbusters:
”Myth” about the Malvinenses (Falkland Islanders) being in control of ”their” Oil and Mineral Resources:
BUSTED!
Too young to retire Think!
Jun 09th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have a large amount of self rule, but not 100% self rule. Did you not understand that? Their choice!
If they were independent/autonomous then they would no longer be on the C-24's list. Did you not understand that?
The Falkland Islander's have the independence that they wish ... not 100%. Their choice .... and THAT is the difference!
No independence, no autonomy, no self rule, no nothing............
Jun 09th, 2011 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a bunch of British squatters.......
THAT is the reality!
No independence, no autonomy, no self rule, no nothing
Jun 09th, 2011 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a bunch of British squatters
Was this the same squatters who scuppered the FO plan to sell them out to the Argies pre 1982
Think - squatters need evicting and the only way to evict squatters is with a legal writ and forced removal. Two things Argentina is unwilling to do as it lacks any legal position or the military capacity.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The reality is that Argentina has no power or leverage to exert any meaningful pressure. I am glad that all this posturing make you feel important though. You lot certainly need your setatonin levels bolstering.
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Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) Happy you agree they are squatters.
2) It's Serotonin boy; S - e - r - o - t - o - n - i - n.
Thanks for correcting me, on my iPhone which is a pain at times.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what are you going to do about these alleged squatters? Don't tell me you have a secret plan like Jihad Jorge used to go on about. Will we see you at the ICJ anytime soon?
Easy.............................................
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We'll just tip the cost-benefit equation against GB and .....Wupti!!! .... the London boys will be all ears..............................
I guess Obama doesn't like pirats neither, He sided with the civilized world on thisone. too bad with Libya he didn't seem to be this civilized, maybe he is waiting for the meetings between Argentina and uk to show his true color, the old good cop bad cop scene on a political theater.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perspective. Perspective is desperately needed. So America supports Argentina's call for discussions over sovereignty, again. Just like last year and most likely next year.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since the US agreed the previous time at OAS, has Argentina taken significant steps in colonising the Falklands? Answer: No. And what significant change in this year's agreement will force this situation to change so Argentina can colonise the Falklands? Answer: None.
So why are the Argies on here seemingly overjoyed at the colonising of the Falkland Islands....? They have once again won a small PR battle. But like I have said, you will not win the war, because lets face it, you don’t win wars.
I take immense comfort and pleasure that something so insignificant can make the Argies so joyous. They know subconsciously that these small victories are the only victories they will ever win, so they better make the most of them.
Think; your poor interpretation of the relationship between the Falkland Islands and Britain is laughable. Once again an Argentine has added two and two together to get whatever answer they wanted. By your interpretation Canada, Australia and New Zealand are also British colonies. The structure you stated is that, a mere structure, Britain have to sign it off to ensure the governance of the Falkland Islands. They will not dictate how the Falklands wishes to exploit its resource, because it’s not their place. The fact that they have never dictated conditions and have never received a penny from the oil activities proves (and never will), once again, your highly dubious interpretation is incorrect.
Enjoy your PR victory Argies! Savour it. Because you will never win the war.
What is it with you Argies? Why can't you spell pirate properly. It's not a pirat, it's a pirate!
Jun 09th, 2011 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I pity you Argentines. Try the original Telegraph article. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100091346/another-slap-in-the-face-for-britain-the-obama-administration-sides-with-argentina-and-venezuela-in-oas-declaration-on-the-falklands/#dsq-content
Jun 09th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read the views of ordinary Americans. Obama is close to toast. And ordinary Americans see Britain as their best and closest ally. And also that the Falklands, South Georgia and the South Shetlands are British. Until the Islanders wish otherwise.
Get used to it. Those 4 SSBNs we have say you can't win. Push your luck and not a single Argentine will survive. That's a promise.
Obama is a twit who doesn't check his facts; no way can the UK sit down and negotiate with Argentina on the question of sovereignty. Read on:
Jun 09th, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the first place, the claim to the Falklands inserted in Argentina’s 1994 Constitution does
breach UN Resolution 31/49 of 1976. It was a unilateral act performed 18 years after the
passing of the UN Resolution (no previous Argentine Constitution mentioned the Falklands).
The EU treaties do not breach it; they simply list all EU overseas territories, and Britain’s
overseas territories were listed from 1973, three years before 31/49. Those treaties have been
widely misunderstood in Argentina; and even the Lisbon Treaty does not set that list of
territories in stone. Argentina’s constitution, however, does just that. It now requires any
negotiations over the Falklands to end in total British capitulation; there is no other possible
outcome. No arbitration is possible now either, since Argentina could not accept a result that
went against its constitution. UN Resolution 31/49 was intended to promote a negotiated
solution, but Argentina’s constitutional claim prevents just that. It is a breach of that Resolution.
Ha ha I havent laughed like this since I posted that joke about that wall around Argy land. Dear me we are shaking in our boots about what Obama has said, the nutters from Argy land seem to think that Obama will be around for the next twenty years, er Argy pirate nutters I think you will find that Obama is is a dead man walking as far as serving another term in office and as such his words do not mean diddly squat, zilch, nowt.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pirat-Hunter------- The only Pirates that I can see are you lot, oh and do try and spell pirate properly will you there's a good little pirate. And you don't honestly think your part of the world is civilized do you? Sorry I should not say honestly to an an Argy should I, as non knows what honestly means.
Fido Dido------ Why would you be looking forward to my comments, I always insult little pirates from Argy land, you included little doggy woggy, here Fido here fido fetch that nice bone. Only a complete and utter idiot and moron would look forward to be insulted. Oh I forgot for a moment you are an Argentine who thinks every person from Britain has a mouth full of bad molars and probably thinks his country is civilized, see you are an idiot and a moron.
Prodigious youth Typhoon assembles his sample of ordinary Americans from anonymous commenters on a website.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, Obama's approval will vary mainly according to the US economy's performance. Its military success or failures voters will also take into account. The US's position re: the FI is not even close to make it to the list of things Americans will have in mind when voting for the next presidential elections. And AFAIK, Americans are more disappointed at the Congress - the Republican dominated Congress - than at Obama himself.
*approval ratings
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 042 Typhoon, harrier61, Jack Bonner, Clare Cockwell , blancojoe
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0iane, ghostdance, MarkM and many more.
I read some of those comments and most of them are yours, your rear end must hurt badly after the kick recieved by Obama.
This conflict is not resolved with resentment and revanchism. Resolved to peace and dialogue.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the world public opinion is internalized conflict over the Falklands, many countries are sympathetic to the claim of sovereignty. And even in the UK itself believe it is possible to reach an agreement acceptable to both parties. Just so long see Web journals and specialized in the field.
It is very important to the work of these years of Nestor and Cristina Kirchner to bet as poetic state of disarmament and non-violence and opt for dialogue and peace among peoples, the fact is that Argentina has decreased significantly its military investment merely reducing the bare essentials. This contrasts with the aggressive policy arms of Great Britain to hold a suspected nuclear base in the islands and yet continues to humanitarian bombing civilians in Libya. This has fallen badly in public opinion worldwide.
This is just a small step on the road to recovery of the islands and respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty removed in 1833. The British people can live on the islands, while respecting their culture and interests, but under the sovereignty Argentina without any problem, as the Welsh in Patagonia. The Welsh are fully integrated into society Argentina.
As Luther King said: There are no roads to peace, peace is the road. I think most English people have the same deep feeling. Peace, dialogue and nonviolence.
Lol@47..
Jun 09th, 2011 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Britishbullpuppydog, spare me your tough talk, and chill. So now I'm argentine? okay whatever, nothing wrong with being an Argentine. They are good people (better than ugly brits with bad teeth)
FYI Bullpuppydog (retard)....I'm Dutch and live in the US where I can see and hear that Obama will win again, because that's the elite's best man to continue with the nonsenses they are bussy with now (Destroying the US)
@49
Jun 09th, 2011 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0)....I'm Dutch
Well if the cap fits,you big c..t
aggressive policy arms of Great Britain to hold a suspected nuclear base
Jun 09th, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK has no ground based nuclear weapons. Our entire nuclear deterrent is on submarines.
Anyone who suspects it of being a nuclear base should have there head tested.
Well well well, again the rats are showing us why the sewers are there best bet, some terrorist slags us of, and backs Argentina, the world condemns, but a few argie bloggers who by their own actions shame their own country and people, and humiliates themselves, by thinking it great,
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Backing up to sentiments of murderous thugs just goes to show the limit of your intelligence, and to be backed by a tulip is a disgrace, if it was not so funny, and what have you accomplished, nothing but shown the world how pathetic you are, you don’t even grasp the fact, that in any of their bombing’s members of your own family may well be hurt, , but then again, the truth is, coming from the sewer , you argie bloggers no nothing else do you, so go on slag us all off, as long as we know where you come from and are going to, we will also know that the Falkland’s are safe, and you will be forever gutter rats, go home to the gutter and take your vile stupid childish comment with you,
NEXT .,
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Referring to, the American association with the like of including Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and Daniel Ortega’s Nicaragua “who support he terrorists, and thus are just as bad,, so don’t get confused argie, ..
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fido Dido.... Oh so your Dutch big deal, And their was I thinking that the Dutch were an intelligent race of people, just goes to show that in every barrel of apples there will always be a few bad ones. Oh and I don't know who you are talking to over in the States but the people that I talk to don't give a rats arse for Obama and think he is a one one big joke that they will be put right soon.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said in my last message of insults only complete morons and idiots would look forward to be insulted, but just for you I will rephrase it now I know you come from tulip land. Only complete Dutch idiots and morons along with Pirate Argys would look forward to be insulted.
Oh I have a joke just for you little doggy.
How do you find a well balanced Dutchman …………….
He’s the one with a chip on both shoulders.
Oh go on then I have another one.
In Tulip land
1. You can get arrested for growing plants, but not for smoking them.
2. You can make jokes about the Belgians and still drink their beer.
3. a. You can legally kill yourself
b. You can legally be killed
4. You're exactly like the Germans, except that nobody hates you.
5. You think you are a world power, but everyone else thinks Copenhagen is your capital.....
6. You get to insult people and defend yourself by saying it's a national tradition.
7. You can put your finger in a dyke and it will save your country
8. You live in the most densely populated country in Europe, and still you've never seen your neighbours.
9. If the economy is bad, blame the Germans. If a war is started, blame the Germans. If you lose your keys, blame the Germans.
10. Bikes are public property. Locks are a challenge.
Facinating hysterical drivel on here! First of all Think convinced we are all under the daily thumb of imperial colonial masters- if so Think how is it then that nobody from UK can come here to live and work unless they have a Work Permit granted by our Immigration Dept? Also how come we can(and have done) evicted back to UK someone who has committed a crime? Reality is as others have indeed pointed out- we have internal self - government and control over our offshore EEZ,s fish or mineral. Maybe you will finally believe reality if commercial oil is found and developed and then you can track the revenue into FIG - not HMG!
Jun 09th, 2011 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then Marcos with his new passport - so what I dont need one nor want one! Then Raul with his story of a military nuclear missile or bomb store hear and the nasty British!
And it all started because the OAS- who have no influence internationally - passed the same resolution that then have done for umpteen years - which has produced what effect over these years?- answer Nil! Get used to politics boys - it was-is-and probably always will be a superficial game of you scratch my back here and I,ll scratch yours, out of those areas where we need to work together - then those countries often go different ways! But in reality we all know who will stand alongside who if and when the shit really hits the fan!
So we here in the Islands are not bothered - because we live in reality.
Morning all ... this thread is going well I see.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is still hopeful of a money solution but still failing to see that, with half an eye on Antartica, the equation is never going to tip in his favour. Fundamental flaw in your argument Think, squatters have no right to be where they are, but the Falkland islanders have every right which is why Argentina is so afraid of going to the ICJ.
Rolly seems to be living on a different planet and thinks that the Brits want a fair settlement, not realising that we achieved that in 1833.
All in all, the usual load of cr*p from the far side.
So! Falkland Islands still British? Of course they are ... it's their choice ... but the Argies don't understand that. In another 178 years they'll still be looking enviously across the water and grasping at any straw that comes their way.
Which is exactly what the OAS was ..... a straw for a drowning man!
I do wonder sometimes what would happen if the British Government turned around and said, Hey, ok, we'll negotiate? Of course nothing would come of it but then what would all these American old boys clubs write down at the end of the buisiness class bash ??
Food for thought :-)
Yawn, Poor Britishbullpuppydog, we are like the Germans, only better and correct, nobody hates us..lol. Only retards who never went to school (like you, a perfect example) believes that Copenhagen is in Holland. Ahh, those brits are so brilliant...anyway, keep it up Bullpuppydog, keep barking...that's an order.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such a wonderful bunch of people these Argentines, they whisper such sweet nothings in our shell likes, and tap the same on the interweb; I'm sure that the World reads the pertinent and obviously entirely truthful information they make available here, and is persuaded that they are a reasonable people, with reasonable demands...
Jun 10th, 2011 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then again, maybe not eh? No matter how they dress it up, its a load of old Peronist bollocks from the 1930s / 40s, a completely manufactured story to excite the lowest common denominator, and unite them as a mass of low forehead humanity ready to do the bidding of the insular flawed democracy that rules them. They remain uneducated by the policy of the state, which is to indoctrinate them all in the Peronism Fantasy World, where Argentina stands proudly at its centre, the rightful ruler of Latin America.
We see how effective this indoctrination is on this very forum, when the brightest of a not terribly bright bunch, spew their hatred and lies regarding all things British.
We're dehumanised, regarded as second-class humans, a land of pirates no less; those Nazi's that were given safe haven after WW2 have certainly worked their usual magic, such wonderful mentors of the new Argentine Republic (lets not mention the missing 30,000 eh?), its all a prelude to invading the Falklanders, annexing the fantasy, driving away the nasty British. It worked so well they actually used it in 1982, FAIL.
Now, they seem to think if they whine loudly enough...
Other American views -
Jun 10th, 2011 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2011/06/President-Obama-Should-Side-with-Britain-over-the-Falkland-Islands
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2011/06/President-Obama-Should-Side-with-Britain-over-the-Falkland-Islands
heritage foundation is a so called conservative think thank. The same crying brit works there who wrote the article from who Mercopress copied it. Title shows President Obama Should Side with Britain over the Falkland Islands. But guess what, he should according to that clown with bad teeth, but Obozo doesn't. Get over it. besides nothing changed, so stop crying like a baby that the US doesn't support you at all. Here in the US nobody gives a damn about you brits, the UK nor what's happening in the south atlantic.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0President's come, presidents go .... some get a blow job somewhere in the middle. Not important. This one had to say nice things on his visit to the UK, but probably through gritted teeth. He may get one more term, he may not ... but then he's history.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I know that no-one in the US gives a damn about the south Atlantic (they actually think the south Atlantic lies off the Florida coast) ..... but that's the point, don't you see. All it means are empty words and nothing more .... and the islands remain British :-)
yes, indeed it remains british. Let's see for how long. I don't know that answer and neither do you even if you pretend to know. So far, they, the Falklanders prefer to be slaves to their master, the queen, that's the owner of the Island, and we both know that those Falklanders aren't capable of ruling the island on their own, for now.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoy your PR victory Argies! Savour it. Because you will never win the war
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHHHHHHHHHHaaa,Do not worry,I bet on Argentina's future,not uk!!
American views -
www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2011/06/President-Obama-Should-Side-with-Britain-over-the-Falkland-Islands
washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/opinion-zone/2011/06/obama-again-slaps-britain-face-backs-oas-assault-right-self-determination
Another brilliant shorcut from lady bug.
He undestand them,because the are born liars as lady bug.
Like the heritage foundation told that Nestor Kirchner parents came with the nazis,while his grandparents came from Switzerland in 1885,to Santa Fe province...
So ridiculuos that 'heritage',clowns like Salt & pepper
Oh! I thought that the joke was...
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know what was the old capital of Britain?
NO
Amsterdam after Rome ha ha
: )
Well if you are going back that far I suppose the old Capital of Argentina was Madrid and before that Rome........
Jun 10th, 2011 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0All roads lead to Rome eh :-)
Of course Amsterdam was never the capital, even after 1688, although Winchester probably was in the 12thC !
But then ... has London ever really been the capital ??
Do you know what was the old capital of Britain?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0NO
Amsterdam after Rome ha ha
and if it wasnt for the Brits and allies the capital of The netherlands and italy would still be berlin
Think - unfortunately for you there is no way that Argentina can tip the cost benefit equation. You are deluded if you think you can. The FI are managing pretty well on their own regardless what your bunch of corrupt and wealthy 'Marxist' leaders are attempting.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0When oil eventually flows to market from the FI then a new stream of income will emerge. I am afraid that all your verbally supportive allies will not be wiling to obstruct such potential and the FI will have many well endowed suitors.
Where will the oil go? Cape Town, Miami, Chile or perhaps Brazil. After all the Brazilians are happy to see FI seafood arrive at their docks.
@28
Jun 10th, 2011 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the islanders wishing to stay in Malvinas, here is an important link that you will need in the future.
www.mininterior.gov.ar/pasaporte/
Thanks for the tip Marcos but for the forseeable future toilet paper will continue to be available in rolls rather than in little books like that.
Can't wait to hear the Thinks, Nicos & Marcoses etc from our neighbour scream, rant, rave & whine when the black gold starts to flow.!!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0The keyboards will be running hot that day!
It is flowing as we type. Should get the news this month!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0All I have read on this issue is that Obama as said that he would like Britain and Argentina to talk about it all. That's a quite a few miles away from supporting the pirate country of Argentina. They can read into this article what they want but be it 5 years be it 50 years be it 1,000 years the Falklands will still be the Falklands unless the people on those Islands want to be part of the pirate country of Argentina. As one Iron lady onece said.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Margaret Thatcher famously reminded the world, in an address to the House of Commons after the Argentine invasion in April 1982, the Falklands are, and always will remain British:
The people of the Falkland Islands, like the people of the United Kingdom, are an island race. Their way of life is British; their allegiance is to the Crown. They are few in number, but they have the right to live in peace, to choose their own way of life and to determine their own allegiance. It is the wish of the British people and the duty of Her Majesty’s Government to do everything that we can to uphold that right. That will be our hope and our Endeavour and, I believe, the resolve of every Member of the House.
So there you have it Pirate race, tough titty. now go away and cry.
Special what?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) Siding with Argentina over the Malvinas dispute.
2) Calling France America’s strongest ally.
3) Downgrading the Special Relationship.
Obama very rarely refers to the Special Relationship. London is now
treated in Washington as though it were the same as any other
country.
4) Betraying Britain to appease Moscow over the New START Treaty.
5) Placing a “boot on the throat” of BP
6) Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7) Insulting words from the State Department.
From a senior State Department official ”There’s nothing special about
Britain. You’re just the same as the other 190 countries in the world.
You shouldn’t expect special treatment
8)Undermining British influence in NATO
The only thing special about the Special Relationship is the amount of self-deception you need to believe in it.
Siding with Argentina over the Malvinas dispute
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how do you work that one out?
Marcos - How has the US sided with Argentina? Has it demanded the handing over of the Islands?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW - What country is the owner of the Ocean Guardian from? Is it not the USA?
I prefer actions rather than words but words is all Argentina is capable off. Pretty pathetic really.
Well what can we say to all those brilliant remarks from argie bloggers?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Desperate words from a desperate nation by a desperate people
Loser in war losers in talk and loser on here.
Argentina the land of desperate losers mmm
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keep it up and the beheading of pirats and theieves from britain will become a new sports in all of Latin America, that is a sport I would love to become an olympian at it, if brits didn't learn anytrhing about Argentina in 1807 they are going to learn it now. all we need is a few nukes and that shit rock in the ocean will become DU nuclear waste, let GOD sort this retards in heaven. in any case all we need is to hi-jack and sink a few of those fishing ships and ther rest of them will go extinct, come on guy the somalis are doing it I am sure Argentine's can top that.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0prat hunger you are a child or the uneducated class, learnt from other argie bloger, your crap shames your own people, go back to the asylum please, and your British passport is withdrawn forthwith ,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pirat-Hunter: If it's just a shit rock in the ocean, why so serious?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me Think®...
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 01-Britain had leaked US @ss since it independence.
2-Britain always acted as the US dog.
3-Britain always likes to talk about her special relationship with US.
4-Britain call her self as the best US ally.
5-Britain goes to any American war if US just ask for.
6-Britain is the useful tool of US in Europe.
Etc, etc, etc.
now
1-We were against US’s world policy after the WWI and WWII.
2-We have never partnered with them to declare war to Germany.
3-We have competed against them for influence and economy power.
4- We have kicked the @ss of one of their ambassador in the past
5-We were and are the most anti-American country (according with them) in the whole America.
6- We had sized their cargo and we still are holding it.
Etc, etc, etc.
And US supports Us instead of Britain?
It is not a good joke about the geopolitical value of Britain in the new world order?
Have you ever saw you people more in denial and brainless than the Britishammed?
I guess if we ask to Obozo to lend us some carriers to invade Britain he will say which one do you prefer?
Ha ha ha
Boy what an ego,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the magnificent 3, will ride into the sunset with their bloggers in tow,
Obama the fool, Ortega the nut and Hugo the bear.
All smoking nicotine weed,
For a country that hates the yanks so much, you don’t do too badly at taking their money and investment,
But you are of course right over the fact we stand alongside the yanks in fighting, but hey, someone has to stay behind and look after the women lol
the new world order
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The calling card of the nut job.
To the people who said that negociate is not transfer the malvinas sovereignty.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well that what everyone in the OAS say, in the OAS they are talking about the sovereignty claim that argentina is doing. there is no other thing to negociate.
and US said they are in favor to support the negociation, didnt you understand it yet? the US is losing power over latinamerica (Unasur, Mercosur, Chinese investment,etc) and their economy is stuck so... as John Foster Dulles said once
US doesnt have friends...Just Interests.
too many years laughing about how countries betrayed us in the war, wow that karma things exist!! LOL
2-We have never partnered with them to declare war to Germany.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says it all dont it
Mengele moved to Argentina in 1949. He moved from one South American country to another to avoid being captured like Adolf Eichmann. He also lived under a number of aliases.
@76
Jun 11th, 2011 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0in any case all we need is to hi-jack and sink a few of those fishing ships and ther rest of them will go extinct, come on guy the somalis are doing it I am sure Argentine's can top that.
Shocking, Pirat hunter talking of becoming....well...a pirate. As the man who advocates ridding the world of thieves and pirates maybe he'll do us all a favour and commit suicide.
Just do it Pirat, you won't be missed (except by your cabin boy perhaps).
Loser in war losers in talk and loser on here.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina the land of desperate losers mmm
uk is the one to loose a huuuge empire,not Argentina....
Figure it out...
We lost an empire ?
Jun 11th, 2011 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure ...? So tell me the Queen of the United Kingdom. How many other places is she also Queen of? And the Commonwealth, how does that work? And our place on the top table at the UN, nothing to do with empire?
SiEster - go back to sleep !
uk is the one to loose a huuuge empire,not Argentina....
Jun 11th, 2011 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Figure it out...
And the argies cant get the first foot up on the ladder of empire building
@85Tte Estevez,
Jun 11th, 2011 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0No you haven't lost an empire, yet.
But that day may come when you get booted out of Patagonia. Of course you will be a long way then from that prize you so greedily covet...... Antarctica.l am sure that we can share it with Chile.
@85Tte Estevez,
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0No you haven't lost an empire, yet.
But that day may come when you get booted out of Patagonia. Of course you will be a long way then from that prize you so greedily covet...... Antarctica.l am sure that we can share it with Chile
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
Nice joke!
Let see: How do plan to do that?
With uk help?
Let see reality:
Let's see:Jim Rogers the UK is FINISHED !!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Jim Rogers UK will go bankrupt pt 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
UK economy much bigger problem than Greece: Greece economic will be limited - President of Merk
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Jim Rogers Flush your Sterlings Down The Toilet !!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I will keep you posted,is some more cheerful news,about Europe come on the way!!
By the way: ARGENTINA IS BOOOMING!!
Being bankrupt doesn't mean we are finished ... Hell, Argentina proves that!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is Boom ...... now that could happen :-)
Being bankrupt doesn't mean we are finished ... Hell, Argentina proves that!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is Boom ...... now that could happen :-)
Do something useful for uk: Do some work,instead of wasting time in non-sense.
Or better,start packing,from uk....
MAy be you can follow corned beef,and work in kuwait..
Soo long lady bug,at this moment Argentina is booming...
Lots of jobs....
91 Argentina is not booming I just spent 10 days in BA and it is as dirty and disgusting as it was 5 years ago when I left. If it was booming you would not have cartaneros still searching through garbage every night nor children begging in restaurants! How about a U$4 coffee, how long can people make $U500/mo afford that?
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is amazing you believe you government lies, how dumb are you?
The purse salesman with no hair is back.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos I think I saw you searching through the garbage in front of my Hotel, did you find the chicken I left you? It was only a little rancid.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a filthy place you live in I am sorry you people think that booming means everyone is getting poorer with broken streets and sidewalks and every growing slums. Maybe you need to travel a little bit to see how civilized people live. Oh wait with U$500/mo salary you can't even afford 3G, sorry.
Hotel? Like you were staying in one :-)))
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Getting ready for the double dip?
Please thank your neighbor for me for slapping the Brits again.
Are you prepared for another crash? When will the peso be $5/1? Sept? Like that 30% inflation? At least I can travel anywhere I want anytime I want. Where do you go, Mar Del Plata? Brown water and cold wet sand full of peasants from the villas and farms. Lovely!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Carter II will be gone next year, but you will be stuck with a crazy overly medicated botoxed CFK and all the cronies she has around her. Why don't you look up Kleptocracy and see if that definition fits the most foul country you live in.
@Markus Alexander
Jun 11th, 2011 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Maybe you need to travel a little bit to see how civilized people live”
FredMex is right ha ha ha
Welcome to the 3er world, shantytowns nah who say that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
Lets see how the civilised world lives in FredMex neighbourhood.
About 6000 homeless are in W DC with a population of just 600.000 (a little town) compared with a huge city like Buenos Aires with 3.M residents and 6m visitors every day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
And in Florida they have the perfect solution by putting them in jail. Wow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
Oops seems they hide poverty and the poor take the streets at night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
CA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7vyhpygQU
Well as you can see Markus, FredMex is the more stupid brainless person that you can ever meet in this stupid world.
: )
Hey baldy do you remember San Louis, MO?
Jun 11th, 2011 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnyNGl7fP7g&feature=related
the US is losing “power” over latinamerica ???
Jun 11th, 2011 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not a nice thing to say about your future boss is it ?
Isolde, you will never have antartica, because your monarchy doesnt have anything to ask for it. maybe you think that you could use malvinas to have a reason to get it but not, malvinas is to the UN a bilateral dispute which means that doesnt belong to UK or Argentina until the final solution, but argentina doesnt need malvians to get something of antartica, thats why you would never have antartica. if malvinas doent come back we will keep this bilateral dispute forever, so you will never have anything to get antartica.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patagonia? oh poor guy its seems we were there first...
the best part will come as you said in the soon future, we have the biggest reserve of water in latinamerica, and latinamerica has the biggest part of watter in the world. we have food we have water, what do you have? you can live with just water and food, but you in those little tiny islands from the north, well there is nothing more to say right? but dont worry we will accept scottish and irish people... lets see how many time will you live with your sterlins when its turn into just useless metal and paper...
We don't have to ask ... our claim is already in and well ahead of Argentina's.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the dispute. Can it be 'bilateral' when one side hardly acknowledges that there is a dispute? After all, we have no doubt about our sovereignty' :-)
@100
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0we have food
I love it when you argies come up with that shit
Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
we have water
We found hardly any access to clean water or sewage systems in the communities we visited
Still not to worry Think is on the case, been on it for the last 50 years
@100 Searinox,
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe we will not get Antarctica, but you certainly won't. When the world runs out of fresh water, the big boys like China, Russia, lndia,Usa & the European Union will be putting their claims in and/or fighting over it.
Argentina(& maybe us too)will be just in the way & collateral damage.
So l wouldn't crow too loud just yet.
We must remove all British colonials from South America and reclaim Malvinas for the motherland. No British should be allowed to live in Malvinas! Teach them a lesson for their crimes of 1982. Argentine Military must take power and arrest the liberals and coward military who lost us 1982 war! Argentine must work with Obama to arrest colonial operators who persecuted his family in Kenya and exterminate the colonial forces in Malvinas.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(104)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yet another British turnip posing as a deranged Argentinean poster.
(As if we didn't have enough authentic ones :-)
Isolde if we dont get it then we drop a nuclear bomb in there and nobody will get it... at least that you want to drink contaminated water, that counts on you.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stick up your junta, you always showing videos or news from bbc or the sun... its like i show you links about clarin or La Nacion in here jaj and you need to take a look about the imports that uk has, almost all of it is in food. what do you have when almost all the imports that your monarchy does is the same it has...
RedHoyt it is a bilateral problem because the UN says it is... and if the UK want the diplomatic power that the UN gives to them they have to accept everything that UN says. i never heard any country saying that malvians belong to UK.
Isolde if we dont get it then we drop a nuclear bomb in there and nobody will get it...
Jun 12th, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There speaks the voice of reason,just one small point you dont have a nuclear weapon
you always showing videos or news from bbc or the sun... its like i show you links about clarin or La Nacion in here jaj
The BBC dont float your boat then Searipox?
Antartica, the worlds biggest nature reserve.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we drop a nuclear bomb in there
@106 Searinox,
Jun 12th, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats the type of answer that l expected from your country.
Well, you won't get Antarctica. lts not yours anyway.
You don't have any nuclear bombs, hopefully you never will.
The mind boggles,Argentina with a nuclear bomb would be like letting children play with petrol & matches.
Think, how do you know who Filippo is? Sounds like another Pirat-Hunter to me.
(109) Isolde
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Educated guess, I would call it.....................
Searinox: Authentic deranged Argie
Pirat hunter :Authentic deranged Argie
Filippo : Fake deranged Argie
@110Think,
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l have to agree after reading another of his posts.
His spelling is of a much higher standard than his grammar.
Don't know what he is yet but l don't think he is Argentine.
l think he is deliberately distorting his grammar.
we dont? lol, sure... we dont, uk didnt have neither :)...
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#108 i think you didnt understand what i tried to say...
#107 please the arrogance is a big mistake
#111 no problemo? xD lol
i think you didnt understand what i tried to say
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you didn't say you'd drop a nuclear weapon in Antartica if you didnt get it?
if the UK would try to get it by force, of course we would. if you can use force we can too. or do you think you are the only one who can do whatever you want?
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but as i said, if we were in that situation.
@110 im proud to be an authentic deranged argie xD
At least 'Think' thinks some of his countrymen in here are deranged, maybe one day he'll see the truth, although it doesn't really matter, he'll be long gone before the status quo changes, and so will everyone else.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what the consequences would be for Argentina, if they ever dropped a Nuclear Weapon on either the Falkland Islands or Antarctica.
Somehow I don't think US/Argentine relations would be so good, and UN/Argentine relations would be poor too, and the spectre of the UK launching a retaliatory Nuclear Strike might make UNASUR, MERCOSUR, and the OAS fall apart at the seams while ALL the countries, including Chavezville, would be trying to ensure they aren't also a legitimate target or at least no downwind of the Mushroom Clouds over Argentina.
'Think', you really do have some particularly thick morons as bedfellows, I'm assuming the men sex is unusually good for you, as you appear not to disagree with the crass stupidity in evidence here.
At the risk of the post being removed by the Editor
Adoctrinamiento pertenece a la Argentina, or in English, Indoctrination belongs to Argentina.
A sad state of affairs Herr 'Think'
114 Searinox
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So i didn't misunderstand.
1. You don't have a nuke.
2. Setting off a nuke down there would melt the place, causing rise in oceans world wide and possibily killing billions of people.
I suppose we are lucky you dont have nukes and aren't the leader of your nation.
#116 I established a situation to do that, so yep you misunderstood what i said.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#113 mmm i think you need to know how are our relations with the others now because it seems you are reading something from the 90'...
take a look about what argentina is doing in the UN, it is not just malvinas case.
Wireless everyone is crazy right now, cant you see?
so yep you misunderstood what i said.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, i didn't.
I didn't even type anything about a nuke in my first post. I just quoted what you wrote. I understood perfectly well what you ment, if you didn't get your own way you would nuke the place which is an incredibly stupid thing to do because it wouldn't harm us at all, and if you did manage to break off certan ice shelfs would just cause massive tsunamis in Argentina while killing off loads of the fish you guys catch yourselves.
Another nut from the loony bin ??
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#118 ne i think that if we were in a water problem situation, then it wouldnt matter the fish itselfs. besides it would create tsunamis, it would change the temperature from the seas, elevate the waters, but tsunamis are because of underwater earthquakes.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#119 please you ar one of the most craziest in this forum
10 great things about Argentina
Jun 12th, 2011 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 01, she is great at losing
2, she is great at bragging
3, she wants what she can never have
4, she steals what she can’t negotiate?
5, she is great at telling lies
6, she is great at brain washing
7, she is great at hand ball [not foot ball?
8, she has a great navy [in port]
9 she has a great leader who flatters herself
10, she has great bloggers, which will defend until death,
As long as it’s not them first ??
Oh and they like to list things by numbers .
long live crazy horse neigh neigh
Antartida secured no need to nuke it.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dim - I asked this question elsewhere but never got an answer so I'll ask you. Argentina maintains a lot of 'bases' in British Antartica while the British only have a few bases plus a ship. Why?
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ Redhoyt
Jun 13th, 2011 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is British Antartica to start with? I know Antartida Argentina but nothing with the name “British”.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%A1rtida_Argentina
: )
Allow me to assist Dim - .. the UK's claim to this portion of the Antarctic dates back to Letters Patent of 1908 and 1917....
Jun 13th, 2011 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Antarctica
... Argentina's claim to the Antarctic Peninsula overlaps with the Antarctic claims of Chile, 53°W to 90°W, and the UK claims, 20°W to 80°W, and is not recognized by most other countries ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Antarctica
Now, the answer to my question ?
@Redhoyt
Jun 13th, 2011 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0You tell me I guess you will have a funny answer about why we have so many millitaries bases there and you don’t.
Surprise me.
Ha ha
Because the Treaty forbids the militarisation of Antartica, and the soldiers you have there cannot have weapons ....... but the Treaty does not include the sea areas. Our ships and subs can be armed to the teeth however!
Jun 13th, 2011 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0So nothing is 'secured'. Funny, eh ? :-)
Rotted Our ships and subs can be armed to the teeth however
Jun 13th, 2011 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes yes, things are going so well that you need to rent those ships from your neighbors :-)))
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8547100/Royal-Navy-rents-Norwegian-ship-to-protect-Falklands.html
Yup, gotta be rich to rent. Have you seen the rates!
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You wrong are secured try to do the same in Ukistan is being invaded since long time ago. : )
Jun 14th, 2011 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is only the USA who has the gun full of nuke-bullets and the latest high-tech fighter planes, subs, war-vessels, aircraft carriers and tanks. The also have powerful laser-cannons circling in orbit that few might know about, but still both the UK and RGs keep thinking they are the SUN in this planet... IF the USA says Britain and Argentina should talk, they will have to, although the most plausible thing to happen is Argentina will lose the Malvinas forever... unless there is united and coordinated support from all Latin american states in blockading the British products and factories and citizens... THIS is of course delirious thinking, LATAM cannot coordinate a nice BBQ along with good music...
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and the UK are today mere actors in the WORLD STAGE owned and directed and written by just one nation: THE USA
The USA has been suggesting we negotiate for decades, without effect!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dim - nothing secured, if that Treaty goes then there's going to be one hell of a dust up ! Let's hope it holds. Eh?
Argentina and the UK are today mere actors in the WORLD STAGE owned and directed and written by just one nation: THE USA
Jun 14th, 2011 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE BEST COMMENT IVE EVER READ IN YEARS IN THIS SITE.
Obama will go for the Black Gold (if they can find commercial oil) and they will occupy the islands, whoever lives there.. US never care any of your points
IF the USA says Britain and Argentina should talk, they will have to
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, we woudln't.
unless there is united and coordinated support from all Latin american states in blockading
Wouldn't make a difference.
Daddy USA says this and they MUST do that...
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama didn't really care what others think... this is the way how the world works
www.lanacion.com.ar/1381464-por-primera-vez-un-malvinense-tramito-un
Jun 14th, 2011 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You natives, tell me please, is this the artist (married to an Argentine girl, btw) that was caught by the police while stealing cabbage from his neighbours' garden in the middle of the night?
???
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of rubbish, the British will do what they have always done,
with or without help from the American’s, yes it would be nice, and welcomed but make no mistake, the Americans do not have that much pulling power, if they did, then they would have stopped the military cutbacks, as this mean that they carry most of the can, so the your item is wrong, the British will go it alone if it has to, after all who is to deal with, Christina Hugo and Ortega , mmmmthe 3 wise monkeys lol
@Gotey
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is only the USA who has the gun full of nuke-bullets and the latest high-tech fighter planes, subs, war-vessels, aircraft carriers and tanks... The also have powerful laser-cannons circling in orbit that few might know about”
And don’t forget the “microware bean weapons” similar to what I will make with my old microwave to cook little brains. Ha ha
And guess who is going to be my first target?
@briton
Where are you going to go alone eh? No money, no carries, no Sea Harriers, no jobs, no army, no hope, no flag?
Come on Briton take advantage that Cristina K is giving DNI to Brits for free down here, may be this is your last opportunity to find a decent well paid job.
: )
may be this is your last opportunity to find a decent well paid job.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would we get a job down there seeing all your kids are working instead of going to school,would explain a lot about you nicotine, missing school and all that
@Sticky
Jun 15th, 2011 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0What Kids Sticky? I don’t have any? And you?
@ 138, actually we have two LPDs currently at sea, HMS Illustrious, and HMS Ocean. Lusty is undergoing sea trials after a refit, and Ocean is off the coast of Libya.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0If we have no money how is it we can afford to give £800 Million in Overseas Aid to people that aren't British? How is it that we can afford to refit an old carrier? How is it that we can afford to build two brand new carriers? We still have an army capable of fighting beyond the two hour window available to Argentine land forces, we are the Land of Hope & Glory, and you're still scared of out flags, indeed the only ones you lot carry are white.
Apparently (I am sceptical myself), we have created 500,000 new jobs in the UK within the last 18 months, and Unemployment figures are down, so I'm unsure whether offering us free toilet paper is an advantage.
:-)
What Kids Sticky? I don’t have any
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody want to breed with you? Best let Darwinism do its work
And guess who is going to be my first target? the one and olny ??
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