MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands tells OAS sovereignty is “non negotiable”, but seek “neighbourly relations” with Argentina
The Falkland Islands elected government responded to an Argentine inspired declaration from the Organization of American States, OAS, saying that the Falklands have “a right to self determination” and fully supports the UK government’s resolute position that “the issue of sovereignty is non negotiable”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“ ... OAS also anticipates that it will “again examine the question of the Malvinas Islands at its subsequent sessions until a definitive settlement has been reached thereon”. ...”
Jun 10th, 2011 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing better to do I suppose, but then it assures more business class travel for the old boys club!
Red, Do you sleep bro?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Jun 10th, 2011 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gilbert House says:
“…....The official release from Gilbert House, seat of the Falklands Legislative Assembly.,,,,, points out that this year’s edition of the OAS declaration is not different from previous years……..”
Not different?…......................................... Not diiiiiiiiiiiifferent ???
Chuckle chuckle……………………
I'll give you Brits a clue: Year 2010
”However Washington did not adhere or vote the OAS resolution.” http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/09/oas-assembly-gives-full-support-to-argentina-s-malvinas-claim
Compare with: Year 2011
”Washington signed, a “draft declaration on the question of the Malvinas Islands”.
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/09/oas-assembly-gives-full-support-to-argentina-s-malvinas-claim
Can you Brits see the Itsy-Bitsy Teenie-Weenie difference now?
Brainwash anybody???
So the article above is correct then Think! It makes no mention of the US and merely refers to the final declaration.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The OAS declaration is much the same as last year, and probably a number of years before that.
What has changed according to your information is that last year the US abstained, this year they did not.
Now you may think Think that that falls under - “ ... nor has anything else.... ”, but I suspect that phrase is refering to the overall situation and not the antics of the USA.
But you are quite right - the difference is indeed ” .... Itsy-Bitsy Teenie-Weenie ... ”, and already the subject of criticism in the states -
www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2011/06/President-Obama-Should-Side-with-Britain-over-the-Falkland-Islands
washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/opinion-zone/2011/06/obama-again-slaps-britain-face-backs-oas-assault-right-self-determination
At worst another 5 years of this Administration and then a change. The chances of the US electing another president whose father we burnt at the stake are pretty low.
And life goes on ........ and on ....... and on
#2 - Where I am its mid-morning. We British get about :-)
Oh! Mummy, mummy, why these men look so sad and depressed? the child said while walking around Puerto Argentino.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh! My dear boy these are Redhoyt, Wireless, Britishbulldog and others that that in the 2011 were better known as the Bennies cyber warriors.
And what happened mummy?, what happened? Tell me more would you please?...
It is not a story to be told to a little boy like you, because is very sad and a mental tragedy for these people. May be I will tell you more in the near future...
: )
Puerto Argentino
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is that then?
So nothing new then? The OAS declaration doesn't call for a transfer of sovereignty, nor does it say the islands are illegally occupied....just for eeer negotiations, like every other declaration relating to the islands, I get the impression from the wording of declaration that other Latin American States are starting to get tired of this incoherent whining noise we call Argentine lobbying....
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0How could the UK possibly negotiate and end to the dispute when Argentina has already predetermined the outcome and enshrined it in her constitution, breaking a UN resolution in the process?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I notice that in previous OAS Declarations the Falklands Question was on page 1 ... seems to have been pushed back to page 7 ?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0So maybe you are right Rhaurie, it must get a bit repetitive.
Think, say after me, “SOVEREIGNTY IS NON NEGOTIABLE” Now be a good lad & write it down 100 times or you will be spanked.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 05 Dimwit. Puerto Argentino?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You RG's are so screwed up with your history you clowns named Stanley Puerto Rivero 1982. You changed it again after it was pointed out that he was a murderer.
The 1999 agreement states you get rid of your crappy names.
Another agreement ripped to shreds by you idiots.
. . . and wipe that smile off your face, Think.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0When Isolde spanks, it really hurts - or so I am told.
@3
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah whatever think....yawn...
Let's just wait and see shall we? I'll bet that in a years time you'll all be crowing again about the USA supporting you...and in 2013...and again in 2014 and so on...and nothing will come of it. They did it so they won't have to keep listning to your wingeing, nothing more. You'll see Think, time will prove me correct in this.
Different year, same drivell. Nothing changes. Meanwhile the good ship Falklands steams sedately on.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Something has changed as otherwise why do these guys issue their reaction? Not before that I remember... There seems to be a need then to react? Ashes of change!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's winds of change you prick, topical irony isn't your strong point so don't try it.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as FIG reacting to this that's just how the diplomatic game works, this is a pretty standard reaction from Gilbert House to Argie instigated rhetoric.
Good for the FIG, taking the initiative to respond.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A waste of time at the OAS, though I suppose it will help Christina be re-elected. I see the usual suspects reacting with masturbatory glee to yet another organisation of no relevance to settleing a sovereignty dispute making a declaration sponsored by Argentina.
This year is the 175th anniversary of the decision to colonise the Falkland Islands rather than just maintain a naval station. I would imagine the 200th anniversary will roll by and Argentina will still be bleating and its neighbours extracting concessions on what they want in return.
And I would put money on Argentina refusing to take this to ICJ for a judicial review of its claims.
@15
Jun 10th, 2011 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Gilbert House wants to show the rest of America that the Falkland Islands are populated by calm, civilised, modern, sane people. Unlike the loonies you get in Argentina.
@10 “or you will be spanked” is leather and high heels involved?? lol!!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(10) Sorry Isolde………………
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong man.
Spanking doesn't work for me.
Other than as a huge turn-off factor.
Argentina is burning, INDEC is burning, literally! Not a single proof or evidence of corruption, fire is a good friend of this government, from now on infation is ZERO! haha Schoklender se los lleva puestos a todos, everybody's running away from Cristina, rats are leaving the ship that is sinking haha Hebe de Malafini está muerta. El Juez Oyarbide llora por amenazas de muerte haha Timerman habla y luego se desdice jaja vermouth con papafritas y good show! Con islas o sin islas este país se va al joraca, y no habrá yuyito ni vaquita que salve a este gobierno corrupto, nos vemos en 2001!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 :-))) !!!!!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think that Duhalde is going to win?
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Jun 10th, 2011 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nico - I have a story for you.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a story of Argentine youth who were rounded up and sent to the Falkland Islands to suppress a bunch of Islanders who were enjoying their peaceful existence. Now what did story did they (the ones that survived) tell to their mothers.
It certainly wasn't one of glorious Argentine patriotism now was it?
Think - you don't like a good spanking? Guess that is why you wouldn't advocate another Argentine invasion of the Islands then?
@20 Think,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lt wasn't meant to be gratification, but to punish you for being so silly for thinking that our home is yours & for thinking that the rights to our home were somehow up for“negotiation”.
You, my Andean squatter, should“negotiate”the right to your home with the remaining Native peoples whose land your country stole(after they'd murdered a lot of them).
@25 Taking about natives .... why don't you apologise for the 20 million blacks that lay at the bottom of the Atlantic during the 1600 to 1800 (during the slave trade), come on Isolde!! From one of the most ruthless empires of all time and you all talk about murder? lost of them? Do as I say not as I do?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what is fakland ??? why are they thefting our land from Islas Malvinas Argentina, why are this pirats illegal aliens having a say over our nation did mexican get the same treatment by USA ??? didn't this pirats get enought oil from Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan if the white trash is bent on killing muslims why are they bent on proboking Latina America now can't the white people stop the racism and exploitation of wealth, do we have to kill all of them to stop this theft???
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually the British were not the only slave trader, so if one is going to slag and condemn a nation for what it did in the past, then some order must be maintained,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA and quite a few South American countries, were active in the slave trade, and or course so was Spain,
The yanks treated the blacks appallingly, not all but enough, was not the civil war fought in part, in their name,
The British empire, was the first country on the planet to abolish slavery, [so at least give them credit for that old boy,]
The Americans did not end slavery till decades later,
Slaves are still being used to day,,
So back to the beginning,
Slavery was around thousands of years before Britain existed,
And still around today, Great Britain was the first to abolish it,
and yet today everybody still blames the British , again, for something we did NOT start, but put an end to, so at least be fair, the brits did wrong, but no more or less that the rest of the world,
Just a note,,,
(25) Cher Isolde
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About Spanking:
Thanks for the clarification….. ..........It’s just that you Brits seem to have “a thing” about “a good spanking”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcSYPjJbgg&playnext=1&list=PLA3F48B6E910AFE81
About Indigenous Peoples……..
You and other Brits repeatedly try to use the Indigenous Peoples card to disqualify the Argentinean claims on Malvinas………………..
As it happens; I have been marginally involved with the Indigenous Peoples Rights Movement for about……….. ~50 years
This activities have, if not other, given me quite an insight about what constitutes a “People” in Regional, National, International and United Nations frameworks.
Therefore I can tell you that the current inhabitants of Malvinas definitely don’t constitute one.
They are British, and as such, squatters in the South Atlantic.
@26
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And they thrived under the Argentines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro_Argentine
The black population resulting from the slave trade during the centuries of Spanish domination of the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata had a major role in Argentine history. Throughout the eighteenth and 19th centuries, it comprised up to fifty per cent of the population in some provinces and had a deep impact on national culture.
In the 19th century, it declined sharply in number as a result of the wars of Independence (most of the soldiers were black Argentine men), high infant mortality rates, low number of married blacks, the War of the Triple Alliance (most Argentine soldiers in this battle were black as well), cholera epidemics in 1861 and 1864, as well as a yellow fever epidemic in 1871.[citation needed]
@28 I know that Briton !!! but please don't give me the “moral conscience” of the treatment of American Natives like @ 25 did. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 I am NOT trying to give you a lecture in History, I was just responding what @ 25 said ... that's all.
“Therefore I can tell you that the current inhabitants of Malvinas definitely don’t constitute one.”
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're wrong.
31 Artillero601 ,,,,i have no intention of giving you the “moral conscience” of the treatment of American Natives. i was not born then and have no interest, only being british am i interested in, we are not parfect, but we do try,, but when it comes to natives,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0was it not custer that said ,the only real americans are little red indian over that hill, or somthing like that, we are all native of somewhere,
, Africa perhaps mmm
@33 I do understand but next time don't use George Armstrong Custer, bad example brother !!
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as a brit and not american who would you suggest,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in terms of “good treatment ” of native Americans?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Therefore I can tell you that the current inhabitants of Malvinas definitely don’t constitute one.”
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Utter bullshit, you can say it but I don't see any legal framework backing that up. Because funnily enough the UN charter directly contradicts you.
“They are British, and as such, squatters in the South Atlantic.”
You stole Patagonia in the 1880s, again applying your own twisted logic that you use to justify your racist prejudices you are Spanish and as such squatters in Patagonia.
And were we to apply your own twisted logic, Argentines are not a people, just squatters in the land of its indigenous peoples.
mmmm not sure, just an example to follow
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i was thinking of washington or patton, but patton may have been a bit head strong, perhaps mc carthur, [is that right] an example of a man that defends the little guy, ?
Pirat-Hunter........ I keep telling you that the only pirates on this site are you Argys, now what did I tell you last time little pirate, that's right I told you that if you are going to call yourself pirate hunter to spell pirate properly, its PIRATE NOT PIRAT YOU PLONKER.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was George a slave owner?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0McArthur? too arrogant probably
Patton? he was all about the mission ... attack, attack and attack some more !!
Have you seen the movie “ The Mission” with Robert DeNiro?
yes i do recall that film some years ago,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0amazing how films seem to alter history in some ways,
films of wwi and ww2 vietnam korea middle east etc,
how long before a film from the falklands,
[humans you cant live with them, and you cant live without then lol.
Think - not sure our side have been claiming to be indigenous peoples? There never were any! But yes, we- those whose ancestors go back to the early-mid 1800,s - are the nearest thing to indigenous certainly.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Squatters? OK give me a reason then why Argentina is not taking LEGAL action to get us evicted? There is only ONE place that has the jurisdiction to rule on that issue - the International Court of Justice - you know it and we all know it- so why do you not take the case to them?
Don,t forget that the UN recognizes the dispute - but the UN does NOT recognise Arg sovereignty at all - it actually recognises Britain as the “current governing power” - I think thats the legal UN wording?- and there is bugger all Argentina can do about it.
And for as long as the takeover of full sovereign control is in your constitution and for as long as the Arg Govt of the day refuses to recognize our right to exist,and claims only one possible conclusion of any talks is full takeover - you and I know there never will be any talks! Arg makes it so easy for UK!!
As it happens; I have been marginally involved with the Indigenous Peoples Rights Movement for about……….. ~50 years
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 050 years well spent was it Think
Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
so I can't even say that the Catholic Church did justice to the natives back then , right?
Jun 10th, 2011 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ stick up your junta
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who wrote that article? You?
In that page of wiki are citing people that some yes has some African ancestors but many of them are not from any Argentina past colonial times and others even have any African roots.
You like this article in wiki that wants to make up a myth base on lies that we killed Africans or that we have exterminated them is based on lies and not proven sources.
Daniel Ludueña has not Africans roots like this article says else has Quechua native ancestors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ludue%C3%B1a
The same for Caseres Argentinean/Spanish nationality.
Another example of this is Tissone soccer player his is Argentinean /Italian/Afro (Italian from his father side Tissone) and Afro from his mother who immigrated to Argentina from Cabo Verde (Africa).
“Tissone also holds an Italian passport”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ludue%C3%B1a
Where is his colonial past?
Another example of the crap that you want to make up is the fact that Cayetano Alberto Silva was not even born in Argentina he was Uruguayan from Maldonado as many of the blacks mentioned there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ludue%C3%B1a
Someone that have wrote an article about black people in Argentina as if she/he was an expert and cannot recognises who is black and who is Amerindian?
What happen? Ver hardy to find 20 real black Africans from Argentina to make a myth?
Look how easy is in Britain
Notable Black Britons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ludue%C3%B1a
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ludue%C3%B1a
: )
Interesting link Dim ... now show me one that says - 100 Great Argentines :-)
Jun 10th, 2011 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Morning ... is all well? Yes? Then the Falkland islands are British, God's in his heaven and Bhudda's a happy chubby chappie :-)
“The Hon Mr Bill Luxton’s Motion for Adjournment Speech”
Jun 11th, 2011 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Mr Speaker, we continue to be subject to the hysterical out-pouring of vitriol from the present Argentine regime and why we can’t be robust in countering some of the worst excesses. you only have to read some of the rabid and extreme comment on Mercopress..”
Hahahaha, thank you West...I mean Mr Luxton
http://www.sartma.com/art_8771.html
“We’ve managed to retain our financial integrity and not to eat into our reserves once again. One day we may need them very badly. if in the end there is no oil to be exploited”
Oh bad luck Marcos, another guess at someones identity completely off the mark. You're such a big fool...you could win prizes you could.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Hon Mr Gavin Short’s Motion for Adjournment Speech”
Jun 11th, 2011 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“However, what was difficult to understand was the decision that was made by the South Georgia Government, which by the way resides here in the Falklands, not to issue a license to a Falkland Islands based company whilst issuing one to a New Zealand based company. I and others have made our feelings known about this and it makes me wonder, just what is the criteria for licences? I would have thought that the British Government would have taken into account the fact that there was a Falkland Islands company in the bidding and also that they base the South Georgia Government here. Unfortunately for me this has soured the relationship with the South Georgia Government and I urge them to re-think their decision in the interest of good relations between our two governments.”
Hahahaha, a handful of British sheeps in Malvinas going to war against some British “rats” of South Georgia :-)))
“I am still highly indignant that cigarettes are having such a huge increase on them, whilst the other great evil – alcohol – goes unchanged”
“The attempt by our wanna be colonial neighbour to blockade us..”
Hahahahahaha
http://www.sartma.com/art_8773.html
Ha ha ha
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The brits gave a license to NZ and not the Islanders?
And they want to be British?
Are not they masochist or just stupid?
Ha ha ha
Stupid sums it up Nico
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Malvineros have “a right to self determination” and fully supports the UK government’s resolute position that “the issue of sovereignty is non negotiable”
The UK manages their “sovereignty” claim but they're “independent”.
lol
The title is funny enough, no need to read the article itself... British Mercocrap.
I see the children have been smoking some kind of weed again ... must be the weekend !
Jun 11th, 2011 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Martin and Nico, Be careful :-) the “Government” officials in Malvinas read our comments in “Uruguayan” MercoPress !
Jun 11th, 2011 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0B.L. @47
“ you only have to read some of the rabid and extreme comment on Mercopress”
I am sure that he's talking about Redhoyt.
@26Artillero61,
Jun 11th, 2011 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0l wouldn't know how many people lie at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. We all know that the slave trade was wrong. Most nations in the world were in it, including Spain, your ancestors. lf, as you say, you “inherited” our land from Spain, then perhaps you can tell me if you“inherited” Spain's miss-deeds? Or does that only apply to selected nationalities when it suits Argentina? e.g. the British?
A bit touchy on your history of genocide to the natives are you not?
lt stands to reason that “lf” we are squatters, then any Argentine in former Native people's lands are squatters too. Think lives in Patagonia, a land formally belonging to the natives, no? ergo- Think is a squatter.
That is the point l am making. Hope this helps.
Isolde #54.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0With 97 % of Argentina's population being observably white, ex-immigrant, ex-European (and an even greater proportion of the males - who largely produced their offspring from breeding with the indigenous native stock), and with the elimination of the native races down to 1.3% of the current population, this country - perhaps more than any other in the world - must be considered 'Colonized'.
I am certain that the 1.3% indiginants that survived the genocide does not present a viable population to hand the country back to.
However, if the local pure-bred indiginants are *financially compensated* for the genocide of their relatives and recent ancestors, and for the stealing of their lands by the colonizers, they would *all* become instant (dollar) multi-millionaires.
No hope, of course, because even if the C24 got it passed as a UN Directive (impossible), Argentina would simply default.
It's easy to adopt paradoxically opposite stances if you have no scruples, cannot be practically challenged on the issue, and - especially - if you are unable to see any wrong in your stance.
[Sorry to my Argentinean friends - I am making a general point about colonization, in replying to Isolde;
the same paradoxes apply to most nations.
It is just the moving kaleidoscope of 'peoples' as, through history, they cover the Earth.]
always with the same crap over and over again geoff pirate garoto.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0natives are argentines not spanish living in america. most argentines have native ancestry from very far away. www.telegraph.co.uk/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/8569687/Scientists-create-cow-that-produces-human-milk.html
look Rosita.......cloned but argentinita ..... if it doesnt appear google
26 Artillero601
Jun 11th, 2011 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Taking about natives .... why don't you apologise for the 20 million blacks that lay at the bottom of the Atlantic during the 1600 to 1800 (during the slave trade), come on Isolde!! From one of the most ruthless empires of all time and you all talk about murder? lost of them? Do as I say not as I do?”
Why don't you apologise for the actions of youir ancestors who murdered, raped, burned and pillaged their way across South America and bulldozed many of the natives, and without whom Argentina wouldn't exist?
@57 sure !! why not !! but you are missing the point Sam
Jun 11th, 2011 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, really good work Argentina! You islanders will have to continue financing this Mercopress “independent” media for many years ahead! All this exchange reveals you ARE worried! Good for us, sorry but it won't ever be good to ocuppy somebody else's land!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry, we will vote out this disaster of a President in 2012 and hopefully when a better President takes over, he/she will be able to repair relations with our strong allies. The majority of Americans are not behind Obama in most of his foreign policy actions. He is a disaster.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Islanders should say Falk off RG's.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Return all the RG's, to their own country.
Tell the RG's they have 6 months to get rid of the remains they left behind. If they don't we will remove them thousands of miles to the east.
Ban all RG's from visiting even those with multiple passports.
Worried not a bit.
Bye Bye South America.
@60 Mr O is trying to fix what GW did, right?
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@61 Return all the RG's, to their own country..... where are we suppose to go sunshine??
Sorry if I upset you, Malen, @ 56,
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course native 'Argentineans' are South America, they predeeded the colonization from Europe, etc.
And, as I (& you) said, 97% of today's Argentines have native ancestry from very far away.
My thoughts were with our original South American inhabitants, not for the colonizing present-day majority, of which your ancestry (probably), and my family, are part.
My erstwhile career encompassed anthropology, so please forgive me if my comments are occasionally somewhat insensitive and detached from people's sensibilities.
@ 57 2Why don't you apologise for the actions of youir ancestors who murdered, raped, burned and pillaged their way across South America and bulldozed many of the natives, and without whom Argentina wouldn't exist?” Simply because are not OUR ancestors. or do you think that our ancestors are people like Roca for example? Do you think that he is our great great great great great grand father? haha Not all Argentine people's ancestors are natives of this country, like not all British people's ancestors are natives of the UK. My grandparents on my father's side and my great-grandparents on my mother's side are not natives of Argentina. And not all Argentine people's ancestors are Spaniards. You should know that :)
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 Thank you Mr Xbox for you input !!!! siga participando !! lol!!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 062. The RG parasites that live in the Falkland Islands.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plenty of shanty towns in RG land for them.
@66 parasites?? are they in some kind of welfare system??
Jun 11th, 2011 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 66 In Chile there are plenty of shanty towns too (in the UK too), your president Piraña can't do anything about it. And stop coming to Argentina or we will nationalize your airline. And unlike other Argentines posting comments, to me you chileans are not brothers, are scum, so we share the same feeling about each other. You're just a bunch of peeping toms, creeps, cowards, a crowd of miserable wretches whose one aim in life is to fulfill your real purpose in life, and that is to be the best *sslickers of British *ss, that's all, but you'll see, a tsunami will do the job, you'll see, it's just a matter of time, you'll be history, that insignificant stripe :)
Jun 11th, 2011 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Marcos Alejandro
Jun 11th, 2011 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Martin and Nico, Be careful :-) the “Government” officials in Malvinas read our comments in “Uruguayan” MercoPress !
B.L. @47
“ you only have to read some of the rabid and extreme comment on Mercopress”
What we gonna do, what we gonna do? Ha ha
: )
66. RG's by their nature are parasites. Read the posts on here. Wishing death and destruction upon a people they do not know.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 068. The biggest bunch of cowards in South America are RG's.
The Islanders seen your cowardly actions in 1982. Shame on you all.
@69 :-))
Jun 11th, 2011 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 069. Do what you are good at. Run around crapping eveywhere.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some sites have professional trolls, and I have seen lots of them elsewhere.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercopress blogs seem to have 'real people' posting, people with firmly held convictions and real experience of events and their history - makes it quite refreshingly different.
@72 if you blame the guys that spent 74 days in a hole and did some crapping in your restrooms , forgive them , it was a war they went thru not a picnic !!!!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Send me the bill, I will pay for the cleaning !!!! and for the record I am not a parasite you resentful SOB !!!
Ok so we all apologise for all the errors of our descendants,
Jun 11th, 2011 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happens now today, nothing as usual, the past is in the past, there is nothing that you can do about it,
All you can do, is make sure you don’t make the same mistakes again in the future,
By changing the way you are today,
So if Argentina withdrew its silly objections to the Falkland’s,
Excepts their legitimate claim to independence and leaves them alone, now and forever,
Then they can live in peace, and the British will slowly withdraw,
And we can all live in peace,
Or, keep on as you are, keep pushing the brits and then make the same mistake that you made, in 1982, then lose again, then apologise all over again, round and round until you learn that you cannot have, what you don’t have or never owned, [simple isn’t it] mmmmmm zzzzzz
@ 75 there is not going to be a war, man, get that idea out of your mind, so stop talking about wars. No one wants another war, war doesn't make any good, it brings only death.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75 we were doing fine until the last paragraph !! lol!!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you all are in possession of the Islands, pursuing oil exploration and make a ton of money with the fishing industry ... so what's the problem???.
The Argentine's government , can say whatever they want. It doesn't change anything, DOES IT???
74 As ever you miss the point. They crapped everywhere. They did not know anything about sanitation.
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are an RG then you are a parasite.
Simple really.
Thousands of lives were ruined by people who think like you.
@78 really?? Look sunshine , I probably like 99% of the people of this forum but for sure i don't like you . Do you know why?? BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON !!!! capish ??
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 78 “Thousands of lives were ruined by people who think like you.” oh, that's so sad, lady :( and we will ruin your lives too, just wait and see, you big scum and waste of the earth :)
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 079 You prove my point you are a parasite as you 'probably like 99% of people on this Forum' You must be the lowest form of life that exists!
Jun 11th, 2011 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell me where you live and I'll pop in and educate you. Will you tell? Coward!
80 Tell me where you live an I'll come and ruin yours. But will you no? You 'big poofter'
@ 81 ok *ssmuncher, do you know “El Ateneo”? We meet there and then we go to some place where we can fight, it will be my pleasure to stab a dagger into your forehead :)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I know the El Ateno.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dagger to into my forehead? What a clown you are it could break!
Your home address please? As I want you to crap your self repeatly in keeping with the best RG traditions.
Thanks.
My home adress? This is only between you and me, Chilean walking scum :) Avenida Santa Fe 1860 (before coming to Argentina wash your *ss properly, please)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Coward!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know the address of the Bookshop thank you.
One of the best I have seen. I would suggest you get some books from there and do a little research. Then you would be a little more educated. Nor would you jump to conclusions about peoples identities.
Before coming to Argentina???????????? I'm a lot closer than you think.
@ 85 I know you are, and if I keep asking you questions you'll tell me everything about you and your family lol we are giving you food and you're working for us, that's the reason for your anguish :) but don't work so hard or you'll develop a dowager's hump :)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 086 Coward!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are quite happy to talk about wanting to ruin peoples lives but you have no stomach for a direct confrontation. Typical of the RG's who left people homes in the Falkland Islands Booby Trapped in 198LOL2.
As for the rest? just drivel! Clowns like you might be working for me????
LOL
Did I ask you to give me your home address? No. El Ateneo, we'll go to somewhere else from there and then I'll stab you there. Do you need money for the taxi? Are you the infamous Chilenito de Pucón? Enjoy living in a real country, not that stripe of yours :)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 088. More than enough for one day for I have proved you are:
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0A. A Parasite.
B. A Coward.
C. A Liar.
Now I'm going to ravish an Argentine women.
I told you I'm closer than you think.
Please go to the Loo before trying to sleep.
Thanks.
LOL
@89 what a sick bastard !!! you belong in a mental institution
Jun 12th, 2011 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0(90) Why so upset about poster “R.G. R Liars”, Artillero601?
Jun 12th, 2011 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you just replace the word “RG’s” in his texts with the word “Communist”, “Marxist” “Socialist”, Leftwinger”, “Subversive”, “Montonero”, “Zurdito”, “Judío Apátrida” or even ”Peronista”; his views, opinions and methods are not different from your own “Milico” ones…………….
Foreign exchange students in Buenos Aires trying to kill each other a tizazos and a milico trying to maintain order in the classroom :-)))
Jun 12th, 2011 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@74
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0'if you blame the guys that spent 74 days in a hole and did some crapping in your restrooms , forgive them , it was a war they went thru not a picnic !!!!
No they were just fecking lazy,and wanted to punish the Falklanders by shiting in their property
Trench Latrines
The regulation Trench Latrine in the Great War was supposed to be dug in pits 4-5 feet deep in special saps dug often at the rear of the Trench, but sometimes at the frontline , forward, so that men did not linger longer than was necessary.
A bucket was placed in the pit. Each company would have two 'Sanitary personnel', known as 'S**t-wallahs' whose job it was to empty the Latrine buckets, bury the contents, and dig new pits. Obviously this was not a particularly pleasant duty, and was often reserved as a punishment for defaulters.This duty was understandably most objectionable and there were even cases of it leading to desertion. Defecating in a fighting or communication trench being a punishable offence.
Well, how illuminating all this is! We seem somehow to have strayed from the path. Geoff, say something, anything to get us back on track! Love to all.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 093 stick up your junta ------ Thanks for giving an history lesson to the Argy they are now looking up the Great war in wikipedia, and probably writing a fictitious account of what their great granddaddy's did in it.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 074 Artillero601---- There were two sides fighting on those Islands I cant recall that any of us good guys crapping on the floors and on beds, and what we went through was no picnic as well. :))))
@Sticky & ciguagua
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha Sticky lecturing others about soldiers duties.
But come one mate you come from the nation that tortured civilians, killed children and women and committed physical abuse to children.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-SWhdTt3DE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-SWhdTt3DE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-SWhdTt3DE
So Sir we are so concerned about your allegation and are being taking seriously and we still are conducting a formal investigation. Nothing conclusive at the moment.
They've not started throwing us out of planes, yet.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 090 I am not sick nor am I a bastard.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0You however are a coward and a parasite.
What weird address will you provide me with?
A Farmacia perhaps? It would make sense for you are a very very vunerable person.
And I'm very close, very very close.
LOL
@nicotine
Jun 12th, 2011 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0The parrilla was used in a number of countries in South America, including Argentina during the dirty war in the 1970s and 80s it became notorious as a routine tool of interrogation.
The victim was stripped totally naked, then lain on his or her back on a metal frame, often a bed-frame. Straps were used to restrain the victim in a position convenient for torture, with legs spread and arms either above the head or away from the sides of the body. The straps were tightened to prevent movement.
Electricity was drawn from a standard wall socket and fed through a control box to the victim by two wires terminating in electrodes. The control on the box allowed the torturers to adjust the voltage and thus the severity of the electric shocks.
96 NicoDin------ I would not crow about torture and killing with your Argentinas past reputation and present behavior if I was you. http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31775
Jun 12th, 2011 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31775
www.asadismi.ws/argentina.html
www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/18/1979043/ex-argentine-police-officer-accused.html
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31775
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31775
www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=131164
www.hrcr.org/hottopics/argentina.html
www.smh.com.au/news/world/argentinas-torture-priest-given-a-life-sentence/2007/10/10/1191695990475.html
The list is endless, whats that saying we have, oh yes that's it, those in glass houses should not throw stones.
so let me understand ,basically everybody is OK with what he writes?
Jun 12th, 2011 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@91 think ! you are a panqueque,
@93 Stick, I have 16 years of service, I know what a letrine is for and how is made
@98 why am I coward or a parasite?? If you are so “macho” , you give us your address so we can all pay you a visit? and I really don't care how close you are !!!! you are very BRAVE behind a computer !!!
101. 16 years service in a Latrine I suspect. Standards are lower than I thought.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only people like you want to ruin peoples lifes. Don't you really think enough have been ruined already.
Yes you are a coward. Note I said I would pay you a visit. You say 'We all can pay you a visit' No Cajones have you just dried up prunes!
LOL
@102 ok, come over !! I live in Texas. Do you have money for the ticket?? Please don't just pop in !! Texas law allows us to shoot the trespasser but in this case I will use my own hands to show you how coward I am .....
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(101) Artillero 601
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Panqueque....... moi?
More like a Caneloncito de ricota, espinaca y nueces como los que hacía la vieja...........
My post (91) was just meant as an eyeopener for you.........
You sound precisely like that turnip when you speak about “leftist people”.
Ps:
If he treaspasses, feel free to use your Glock 21.
All the personal threats and offering to meet eachother is really sad, from both sides of the arument.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grow up guys.
Artillero601
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I should be in Texas in August, whereabouts are you.
@105 I did not start, he did !!! read the postings by him , is very disturbing ! he talked about raping an argentine woman, this dude is SICK !!!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@104 jajajajaja!!!
105 True. But then the RG's should not talk about ruining peoples lifes.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also I said I would pop in and Educate him. Please read his response(s).
LOL
@106 I live 2 hours south of Austin. ...
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@104 If I really sound like that moron, I believe I owe you an apology
@108 Educate me about WHAT SUBJECT????????????? and by the way , is not CAJONES = DRAWER, you meant COJONES you Imbecile !!!!! which I have plenty of !!!!!!!
109. All subjects. You have for example the wrong Ravish.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Over come her with pleasure'
Hers and mine.
Sorry about Cajones I was in a hurry. If you had cojones would you need a gun? I don't own one as I don't any need.
@ 110 you can't read either !!!!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Texas law allows us to shoot the trespasser but in this case I will use my own hands to show you how coward I am .....”
Why do you mention shooting a trespasser then. You would never have mentioned it if it was not on your mind. Ruination and death must be a fixation in your life.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very very sad.
In a probably hopeless attempt to return to the article -
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ ... For a third of a century the response from America and England has been the same, no matter who tried to fuel discord in the special relationship; and this time is no different. It is US policy to be neutral, siding neither with Argentina, Britain or the Falklands on the matter of sovereignty over the archipelago; and since 1985, at least, the US has backed negotiations to resolve the issue. Britain has no doubts about its sovereignty over the Falklands and champions the Islanders’ right to self-determination as enshrined in the UN Charter..... This stand-off suits the United States and the United Kingdom, both of which have more pressing problems of State. Given this normal situation, the Obama Administration has not taken sides as this article asserts but carries on the policies begun in the Reagan Administration and carried on through Bush Sr., Clinton, and Bush Jr. Administrations, just as Britain carries on supporting the Falklands....”
and
“ ... “In an OAS press release, Argentine foreign minister Hector Timerman said: ”Unfortunately, Britain still declines to resume bilateral dialogue, in violation not only of repeated resolutions of the United Nations and this Organization.“ Timerman called for a ”peaceful settlement to the dispute.“ ....
But how does one negotiate an agreement with an entity that is sooooo good at breaking them? ....”
http://sartma.com/art_8785.html
You are talking about popping in , uninvited , to educate me, calling me a coward without knowing me .... If I feel attacked , I will attack back. Never mentioned in my postings about ruining people's lives ....
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a sick individual and I feel sorry for you ....
Argentine has been run by weak liberals for 29 years now, we want the military to take power again and reclaim the Malvinas, kick all the British out of Malvinas and make the British military pay for their crimes of 1982 by wiping them all out. Any Argentine who object to this should be disapeared. Close all unions, if Ejército Argentino does not bring victory they should not be allowed back. They must kill everything that moves on Malvinas and bring us our birth right. Same with Chile and Beagle Channel. We must go to war and sacrifice for the motherland.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@115 wow !! Thank God , I didn't say that
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@113 “In a probably hopeless attempt to return to the article -” lol !!!. Did you read my post at @77 ?? Your comment please
(109) Artillero601
Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You owe me nothing…. But maybe you owe your kids not to sound like that against other Argentineans………
(114) Artillero601
I still think that if that wacko pops up uninvited, you should shoot him a little bit.
Use your .22 plinking pistol.
Aim for the knees.
114 If you feel threatened by me then you are really are in a sad mental state.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0115 What yet another RG seeking death and destruction!
What a pathetic lot they are!
@117 Yo creo que una 12.7 mm seria poco para este mal parido !! This is scary Think, we agreed on something .... making progress? o me estas indoctrinando subliminalmente????
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't stop laughing at you RG clowns. I have exposed you for what you are a violent people. Full of abuse and resentment. Blind to reality!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even 'Think' who pretends to be clever has a violent streak.
LOL.
(115)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yet another British turnip posing as a deranged Argentinean poster.
(As if we didn't have enough with the authentic ones :-)
(119) Artillero601
Fascist in Argentina.......
Democrat in USA.......
Which one should I try to inoctrinate?
You ar as bipolar as Cristina! :-)
Are you dilutional ?? Do you remember what you wrote or do I have to remind you? this is one of your posting (#89), psycho :
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Now I'm going to ravish an Argentine women.
I told you I'm closer than you think.
Please go to the Loo before trying to sleep.
Thanks.
LOL”
Do I feel threatened by you?? Hold on !!! I'm vomiting of laughter
I told a group of friends that I could expose you lot as a bunch of violent people. Well done me. Shame on you lot. Vomiting with laughter? I have been almost wetting myself as one by one you got sucked into my trap.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bye Bye losers.
LOL
@123 trap?? Dude, you are sick !!! Seek immediate medical attention please!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@121 You ar as bipolar as Cristina! :-) .... like I said before Think, not only you are a panqueque, you remind me of my Doberman's (you can turn against in a dime ) :-)))))
(124) Artillero601
Jun 12th, 2011 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep misunderstanding my “left brain lobe” way of thinking.
You are Spartan; I’m Athenian!
My comment about Cristina’s bipolarity was sincerely meant as a tribute to her intelligence, creativity and self-control….
Some bipolars you may have heard of:
Jim Carey
Robin Williams
Ludwig Van Beethoven
Francis Ford Coppola
George Fredrick Handel
Vincent Van Gogh
Gustav Mahler
Ted Turner
Buzz Aldrin
Garnet Coleman, legislator (Tejas)
Larry Flynt
Kit Gingrich, (Newt's mom)
Gaetano Donizetti
Peter Gabriel
Jimi Hendrix
Sting
Winston Churchill
Theodore Roosevelt
Ilie Nastase
Honoré de Balzac
Ernest Hemingway
Johann Goethe
Graham Greene
Edgar Allen Poe
August Strindberg
Mark Twain
Mark Vonnegut
Virginia Woolf
Cristina Kirchner
Ps:
My old German Boxer could have your skinny Dobermann for breakfast…..anytime :-)
@123 “I told a group of friends that I could expose you lot as a bunch of violent people”
Jun 12th, 2011 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@89 “Now I'm going to ravish an Argentine women”
Bill Luxton’s
“Mr Speaker, we continue to be subject to the hysterical out-pouring of vitriol from the present Argentine regime and why we can’t be robust in countering some of the worst excesses. you only have to read some of the rabid and extreme comment on Mercopress..”
Billy you forgat to mention that most of those comments are from Brits like you.
@125 You call it bipolar , I call it adaptation, if you cannot change based on your surroundings and present times, you drawn.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should I get a Dogo then?? ;-))
Bipolar? Cristina Fernández de Kirchner is a kleptomaniac, not a bipolar. She loves to play the part of the good old aunt with other people's things. But wait a minute, isn't that what leftists do? Steal? Not that she is a leftist, her rethoric is that of a leftist, but she's a capitalist at heart, like Mr Geriatric #125 who is an anti-imperialist but loves the US Dollar and gives not a single penny for the poor Argentines, life's better this way, isn't it? :) Cristina Fernández is a Christian who promotes the abortion, but cries for dead terrorists, lovely lady, isn't she? :)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(127)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ou Iessss... alguays rimember:
Improvise, Adapt & Overcome...........
Hoorah !!!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0115 Filippo (#) Jun 12th, 2011 - 02:44 pm
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine has been run by weak liberals for 29 years now, we want the military to take power again and reclaim the Malvinas, kick all the British out of Malvinas and make the British military pay for their crimes of 1982 by wiping them all out. Any Argentine who object to this should be disapeared. Close all unions, if Ejército Argentino does not bring victory they should not be allowed back. They must kill everything that moves on Malvinas and bring us our birth right. Same with Chile and Beagle Channel. We must go to war and sacrifice for the motherland.
116 Artillero601----- Wow now that's what I call a sick individual, makes yours and R.G. R Liars little spat look like handbags at dawn who let that nutter out of the asylum?
Artillero601 I shall be in Fort Worth, I guess I'll be a bit too far North.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@132 May be he is a double agent? is he one of yours? or one of mine? If he is one of mine I will throw him from an airplane myself !!!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@133 Fort Worth is about 1.5 hours in plane and about 8 driving. Are you ready for the heat? Today's temperature is 101 F
A tadge far for a visit for a quick beer I fear.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its a trip for work, so I will probably see little more than hotel, airport and plant.
@135 Too bad ! next time ? you are welcome to my house anytime
Jun 12th, 2011 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back on track? For those who think getting the RGs to go to the ICJ will be the end of things.....
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.asianewsnet.net/home/news.php?id=18686
Hmmmm ... 49 years and counting........
Watch out Justin, they have just been talking about shooting each other...
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Artillero, Eight hours drive? What do you use a donkey? :-)
Jun 12th, 2011 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Use one of this from your friends...
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1379919-el-increible-vuelo-de-un-piloto-argentino
The Falklands have “a right to self-determination” and fully supports the UK government’s resolute ==
Jun 12th, 2011 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this then in a free world, suggests that as long as they wish to remain British, then not even the man upstairs will alter it, as for the USA it does not matter what she says in part, she will always support the British over the Falkland’s, unless a miracle happened, and the yanks pulled out of the uk, , broke off relations, and formally joined the south American loony club, now we all know this will not happen, after all she cannot defend over 50 states who wish to be American, then throw the Falkland’s to the wolves, think of what would happen to any country that had a claim over any of the states,
This Obama will be gone soon enough and a new president will repair the damage, the fact of the matter is this, there is only 3 ways Argentina will ever ever get the Falkland’s,
1, the islanders vote to become argentine.
2, the British under pressure just hand them over, and live with the shame.
3, like it or not, you fight for them,
the first two are flying pigs, and the 3rd is impossible, so guys just live with it, and leave them alone, you are just wasting your valuable lives over nothing, the world is having fun sun sand girls ,and Argentina just cries over some rocks they don’t even want, go home relax and forget it,
Long live great Britain ??
@138 lol!!
Jun 12th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@139 Marquitos, Texas is the second biggest State of the Union, from where I live, it takes about 13 hours (driving) to reach El Paso and nice video by the way !!
I believe INTERPOL got a hold of RGR Liars .... thank God for Law and Order!!
#137 - Frank. Yup it is interesting, particularly as the ThaiGovernment has already stated that it will not follow the ICJ's decision if it does not go in its favour! The current Thai Givernment's (Democrats) approach is that the ICJ has no jurisdiction over territorial disputes. Strange that it was a Thai Government (Dictatorship) that accepted the ICJ's 1962 decision.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the ICJ will rule on the extent of its jurisdiction in territorial disputes?
As for the rest of you - I give up!
141. No you big poofter. Why do you shelter behind guns and a dog(s)
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Insecure are you? I do not have guns or a dog to hide behind. No requirement. I'm save in the knowledge that nobody will bother me.
LOL
@143 i don't hit women , don't worry about it !!
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0(144) Artillero601
Jun 13th, 2011 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not even if your superior officer orders you to?
@ R.G. R Liars
Jun 13th, 2011 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Why do you shelter behind guns and a dog(s)
Insecure are you? I do not have guns or a dog to hide behind. No requirement. I'm save in the knowledge that nobody will bother me.”
“I know the address of the Bookshop thank you.
One of the best I have seen. I would suggest you get some books from there and do a little research...
I'm a lot closer than you think.”
That because you live in Buenos Aires enjoying our freedom and democracy may be?
Ha ha ha
You have 'democracy' in BA ??? Full democracy??
Jun 13th, 2011 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
Watch out Justin, they have just been talking about shooting each other
Jun 13th, 2011 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Join my club , they may think twice ,we had to join to use the range when we were there some years ago
http://www.theshootersclub.com/
2420 Northeast 28th Street (SH 183)
Two blocks west of I-35 West at Deen Road
Fort Worth, Texas 76106
@Sticky
Jun 13th, 2011 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You have 'democracy' in BA ??? Full democracy??
Are you sure ?”
Yes Stick this thing that you don’t understand because you still live in a kingdom with rules of the middle age and a monarch as a head of the state.
We have rights and even in the times of dictatorship private right over property and land was granted.
I own my property and land and not like in UK where only 0.6 of the elite own 70% of the land of UK.
But I know that is so difficult to understand for someone that buys a property on leasehold and freehold system thinking that he owns something, figure out that the same people think that UK is a democracy.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/britains-land-is-still-owned-by-an-aristocratic-elite--but-it-doesnt-have-to-be-this-way-483131.html
Grow up Sticky you have a long way to become a subject of democracy.
: )
Grow up Sticky you have a long way to become a subject of democracy
Jun 13th, 2011 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you have a long way to learn to count,dickhead
147 Redhoyt (#)
You have 'democracy' in BA ??? Full democracy??
Seems to me that Dim is a student on a history/British land law course?
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Know about 'fee simple absolute in possession' then Dim ? .... :-)
@145
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The question of yours smells like “ambush” ..... Nice try!
(152) Artillero601
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I remember correctly, our first contact, months ago, was about this very same topic of “blind obedience”.
At that time you where quite sure of your duty:
Obedience first….
Think later….
If ever....
So Soldier………
No “Ambush” whatsoever……...
Just a straightforward question………..
Yes or No?
@153
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the argument is going to be used to “ mock” me , the answer is NO, if the argument is going to used (as an honest exchange of information in between “ un ilustre como usted” y un ex oficial Argentino) sure why not ! More likely, me vas a hacer entrar como un tubo, and you are going to use that information “para gastarme” .....
@148 Hey Stick, this is the fire range I used for 9 years in my younger days. I believe is the biggest one in the free world....
http://www.hood.army.mil/
(154) Artillero601
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to “mock” anyone
If the order is legal; then Yes.
If the order is illegal; then No.
I know you were trained how to determine between legal and illegal orders.
Both in 83-84 and surely again in 89-90.
@155
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we are here to preserve democracy not to practice it” ......
By 87 I was out , right before the “Brigada III” incident ;-))
(156) Artillero601
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor you…..
You seem to always miss the fun…….
Argentina 76-83
Malvinas 82
Carapintadas 87-88
II Gulf War
Afghanistan
Did you at least see some action at the I Gulf War?
@157
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right! I missed ALL the fun ....
Malvinas 82, (Cadete de 2do año Ba A), Paso de Uspallata, tiro de Artilleria en las posiciones del '78, what a place !!!
Carapintadas 87, (Baja del Ejercito , rumbo a USA)
Invasion of Panama '89 Unit was activated but not deployed
I Golf War '90 Unit activated but not deployed (4 months in Fort Hood and no action)
'96 Honorable discharge from the US Army
Actually, I missed all of it !!!!!!!!!!!
None of you read the Telegraph, do you? Well, there are news today, so you better toe the line ;-)
Jun 13th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/7331547/Official-British-history-of-the-Falklands-War-is-considered-too-pro-Argentina.html and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/7331547/Official-British-history-of-the-Falklands-War-is-considered-too-pro-Argentina.html
Sorry. This was NOT published by us.
Cheers!
The correct historical circumstances of the mid1830s has been accepted for revision of the Official History - thanks to TFI historians.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sandy Woodward's comments are wrt defence spending allocations, and my comments are posted on another Mercopress article.
No sweat.
Argie - the official British history was corrected and the author apologised. And it is hardly recent news!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is always good to remind you that your Official History was changed under the pressure of some British in Malvinas not because they were wrong.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, because it was wrong. The author became very embarrassed about it because he had relied on the work of others and not done his own research.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Right is right, and wrong is wrong....... and wrongs need to be righted, and right .... needs to be defended :-)
Oh, and happy Liberation Day !
Yes, indeed, Happy Liberation Day.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Is always good to remind you that your Official History was changed under the pressure of some British in Malvinas not because they were wrong”
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not an islander changing the history. Graham Pascoe and Peter Pepper are the ones in that very link who got the history changed.
Remember, those guys all you Argentinains called liars....Yes, you're using them to back up your argument.
Fail.
Almost forgot about those two “British researchers” bought and paid for by special interests in Malvinas.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you read your links you'd realise you'd all been pasting one of there storys for the last few months,
Jun 14th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#167 Mr. Pepper lie unscrupulously and demonstrated that very well by Mr. Cisneros.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Mr. Pepper repeats: I have on several occasions offered to make a historical presentation.”
(Mr Cisneros:) I do not doubt that for a moment but I frequent the places in Argentina where the Malvinas are discussed and I have no way of corroborating his claim.
As everybody knows, the most distinguished think tank here by far is CARI (Consejo Argentino para las Relaciones Internacionales) while academically the University of Buenos Aires (UBA) is surely the most respected. I have checked up in both institutions and have found nothing to back up Mr. Pepper’s claim. Checking up further with various universities (also private), the Parliamentary Malvinas Observatory and local experts, none of them seem to have received a formal proposal from him to set up a debate between academics of the two sides. I hope this is not the case and that Mr. Pepper can provide concrete evidence of his always laudable wish for constructive dialogue.“”
The evidence NEVER arrived....
Let´s be honest....only in Malvinas the people believe gettingright document as true facts, the rest of the world knows that is a complete joke, a pair of paid liars and not serious at all.
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/19/falklands-malvinas-controversy-minds-closed-indeed
He didn't demonstrate anything and as pepper states was high on rhetoric and low on facts.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He also didn't even reply to peppers last rebuttal. The guy lost the argument.
Also, the “gettingright document” is sourced from Argentinain and UK sources, if it's lies that makes both our nations false.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar Government yesterday called on the GSLP Opposition ”to abandon attendance at the Committee of 24
Jun 15th, 2011 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=21993
C24 what a waste of time and money ?,,
and we don't really care what fakland island compay wants to do in uk but in Argentina Islas Malvinas is not for sale, besides in Argentina we vote as civilized people do, we don't push around people as if we where the kings and queens of the earth, we all know those people usually end up dead in a river where they belong.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[] 173 --
Jun 16th, 2011 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine Government will send Malvinas Islanders' Argentine passports
to them !
Hey Guys,
Jun 16th, 2011 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From the USA
Here are my 2 cents! One solves the Chinese knot when one stops pulling: Here it goes...
1. Islanders have a right to self-determination (most important)
2. shared soverignity.
a. Let the UK handle the military security
b. Let Argentina handle the economic support (open-up the ports, increase tourism to the Islands, introduce them to Mercosur as Junior partners, common fish and oil endeavours....etc.)..mutual benefit!
Well, just a different tune for a change!
@175 Not bad !!
Jun 16th, 2011 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From the USA
Jun 16th, 2011 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here are my 2 cents! One solves the Chinese knot when one stops pulling: Here it goes...
How about The USA and UK share soverignity of Hawaii
The eight alternating white, red and blue stripes represent the eight islands of Hawaii. The British Union Jack represents Hawaii's historical relationship with Great Britian as its protectorate.
http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/flags/hi_flag.htm
175 atk357---------Yes on Number 1.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No on Number 2
a. We do that anyway for the Islanders.
b. Argentina can not handle her own economy properly why in heavens name would you want to foister poverty and corruption on the islanders.
Scepticism surrounds Argentina poverty. figureswww.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q-7ilLgF8
Inflating poverty in Argentina. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJLrvGpJjg&feature=relmfu
Hungry in Argentina . www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_RnpwMDmL4&feature=related
Middle Class Revolt - Argentina. www.youtube.com/watch?v=quY5d_XdoWU&feature=relmfu
Just a few reasons why the islands should have nothing to do with Argentina, except of course to be friendly to eachother.
175 atk357: Few points
Jun 16th, 2011 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 and B both break A, The islanders do not want nothing to do with Argentina. To force something upon them would be in breach of there Self Determinaion.
[] 175 -- atk
Jun 16th, 2011 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you say to live in US ?
why the French brands cars ( Peugeot / Citroen / Renault)
forbidden in US market ?
any else who knows !
¡¡¡VOLVEREMOS!!!
Jun 16th, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0En tus sueño quizas...
@175atk357,
Jun 16th, 2011 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about we share sovereignty with you of the original 13 states?
After all, we settled and developed them.
While we're on that subject how about you share sovereignty with Mexico for Texas, New Mexico(now there's a dead give away! look at the name!)Arizona & California.
What about joint sovereignty with Washington state & Oregon(we were there before you when the US was already idependent)
Doesn't leave you with much left does it?
I meant sueños. Typo
Jun 17th, 2011 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British understand Argentina very well
Jun 17th, 2011 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If she did not write it -she has no interest
If she did not agree with it, it won’t be accepted,
If she can’t have it her way, she will steal it
If she can’t convince you, she will cry and cry until you give it,
She ignores all logic, its her way or the high way.
Yes we understand her very well.
One a fool always a fool,
Hola or hello from Argentina!! visit us and enjoy South America!! love and peace brothers!!!
Jun 19th, 2011 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@185 DiegoOliva,
Jun 19th, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hola, love & peace. Welcome to this forum.
l hope you keep these noble thoughts & do not degenerate into an anti-British slanging match like so many of your compatriots.
Don't forget the Sisters either!
Peace, Blessed be.
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