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Argentina asks more support from Ban Ki–moon for Malvinas sovereignty claim
President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, CFK, renewed the Argentine claim of sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands before UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, who’s visiting the country on his birthday. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHelping out in Cyprus. A posting in Cyprus is a bloody holiday, we should know we have two sovereign bases there. How about really helping the UN out and come and kill some Taliban?
Jun 13th, 2011 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is CFK claiming Argentines did not go to war? She seems to forget that the supporters of the military government were numerous and Argentine.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 1 why do you want to kill some taliban? What have they done to you?They seem to be nice guys
Jun 13th, 2011 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://counterterrorismblog.org/taliban.jpg
@3
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who created the Taliban? Pakistan did, and Pakistan is a major allied of the US in the war in Afghanistan. Contradiction anyone??
@ 3 “Contradiction anyone??” jejeje Helloooooooooooooo???
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thenation.com/article/how-us-funds-taliban
its no good getting him drunk.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It wont help you.
As for more support, he might offer some second hand scafolding ?
Argentina has zero right to call the UK on this it broke resolution 2065 when it chose to go to war. And besides 2065 violates the right to self determination and is therefore invalid.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 7 “Argentina has zero right to call the UK on this” who says that?
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“it broke resolution 2065 when it chose to go to war” that was not Argentina, that was a self-elected government.
“And besides 2065 violates the right to self determination and is therefore invalid.” Bollocks.
So if it was just the dictatorship that invaded the Falkland islands, who were all those people cheering in the streets ?
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0MI6 personel posting as argentines !!
@ 9 who were all those people?
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0She really is insane and full of dillusion! So not Argentina,s fault they invaded in 1982 and siezed Sovereign control.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can she please explain to me- what is the differnce in what they did in 1982 that is different from their only and one and only acceptable result form such negotiations - wh is their full sovereign control of the Islands and to hell with us who have lived here for nearly 200years.
Other than one doing it by military means and one trying diplomatic means their AMBITION is equal - a total travesty of modern democratci international law.
Sorry Lady - you are just as insane and dillusionary as that mad general in 1982= you are NO different to him at the end of the day when it come to us.
And that is why you will never get what you dream of.
MI6??
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0She really is insane and full of dillusion! So not Argentina,s fault they invaded in 1982 and siezed Sovereign control.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can she please explain to me- what is the differnce in what they did in 1982 that is different from their only and one and only acceptable result form such negotiations - wh is their full sovereign control of the Islands and to hell with us who have lived here for nearly 200years.
AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!
Why do not take your thesis to the UN,UNasur,OAS?
So All latinAmerica countries(including some coomonwealth,are wrong in supporting Argentine sovereignity on the South Atlantic islands?
Who is more insane?Somebody who came 140000km afar,and kick some peacefull people from the island?
Not us,Argentines,islander.Are the IMPERIALIST brits who made these mess.
Read carefully these:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8531052.stm
You are the insane.No body cares about 2000 people...Only the brit imperialist cares,because they have vested interest....
What a bunch of LIARS,are the brits!!!
“ ... MI6??...”
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0They changed the name to the M25 Argie but still a b*st*rd right enough! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_motorway
“ ... So All latinAmerica countries(including some coomonwealth,are wrong in supporting Argentine sovereignity on the South Atlantic islands? ...”
Correct - well done SiEster! But you can't use the word 'coom', not acceptable.
“ ... .No body cares about 2000 people....”
Ok, one out of two isn't bad for someone with your disabilities..... now repaet after me, “ The British care ....... and that's enough” :-)
Nice to see the Mad Professor has returned to astound us all with his fantastic array of in-depth knowledge and wisdom.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 04:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tte. Estevez, why don't you take YOUR case to the ICJ, you seem so confident, or yet again, are you allowing your mouth to run wild without in fact engaging your brain?
And not mention to visit UK.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0That tells you something? Umm
Happy liberation day Nicotine
Jun 14th, 2011 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0#17 - yes it does .... he's got our vote already :-)
Jun 14th, 2011 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shut up Rotten! You do not have more argument! Argentina has more and more support for our Argentina's Malvinas Islands/ ok!!!you do not change it!!! So our Islands will be ours again, just, mate!! do not drink too much! It is no good for you!! remember that!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0So our Islands will be ours again
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0When will that be then Kiwifruit
Riiiiight, so those several hundred thousand clones of sammy the seal clapping madly in Plaza Mayo when the invasion happened where not average Argentines but the dictatorship?
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The dictatorship may have planned, executed and lost the invasion, but it sure as hell was the normal average Joe Argie on the street who acquiesced it every step of the way...CFK talking more bollcoks yet again, it wouldn't surprise me if she was in that crowd as well waving a banner declaring “Fusiel Los Ingles” and frothing at the mouth like an epileptic rabid Parrot screeching “Las Malvinas Son Argentinos”.
What a liar is our Madame Plastique Face! Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh maybe they were British tourists who were dancing in the streets in 1982(btw the Argentines weren't doing too much dancing on the 14th of June of that year!).
l would hope that Mr Ban Ki Moon knows the true facts, not the Argentine lies.
Happy Liberation Day!
If there were no dispute, the Secretary General would not be obliged to hear CFK's claim. If there were no illegal occupation, there would not be a any sovereingty dispute. If there were no sovereignty dispute, there would be no UN resolutions calling both parties to solve it. If there were a people on the islands, there would have been a reference to their self determination. Good for Argentina once again!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is no dispute ... and he's not!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no illegal occupation and there is no sovereignty dispute.
There are no Resolutions after 1988 !
The UN Charter DOES make a reference to self determination.
Argentina can do nothing !
@24
Jun 14th, 2011 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and if your granny had balls, she would be your grandad
Did nobody notice that it was only Galtieri and his henchmen cowering in the foxholes on the approaches to Stanley?
Jun 14th, 2011 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No good forthright liberty loving Argentines were there at all. It was all made up by those tyrannical European pirates.
@15 M16 or M25 ... it doesn't matter Red, it was a joke anyways. Relax !!!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's no need to use an army... Times have changed. Thank Madoff and other financial gurus for it.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.presstv.com/detail/184188.html
and
http://www.presstv.com/detail/184188.html
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Jun 14th, 2011 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't forget this link !
http://www.presstv.com/detail/184480.html
“....the United States was not only signing a declaration calling for Britain and Argentina to begin negotiations over the future sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, but also providing an uncomfortable clue as to their preferred outcome. They referred to the islands by their Argentinian name, the Malvinas. This doesn’t really leave too much doubt about which way the wind may be blowing, does it?”
Jun 14th, 2011 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2003263/Falkland-Islands-Britain-defend-English-Channel.html
Be smart guys, now is a good time to sit down to negotiate an honorable withdrawal from Malvinas and bring with you some peenies....in the future the condition will totally different.
“down to negotiate an honorable withdrawal from Malvinas”
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No.
T estevez what a dumbo you are! First you cannot even get our civilian population correct - its 3000 - quite publicly stated. then you suggest why dont we go to the OAS?!!- yeah sure! Firstly they would not allow us into the room to speak as according to Argentina we do not even exist as a people - and if the OAS did allow us there - then Argentina would walk out and resign anyway as they very very publicly state that the wishes of the people of the islands are irrelevant when it comes to their future!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you and kiwi had even half a brain cell between you you might realize that happens to be why there is no point in talking to you.
Also you will find that whilst most of those countries you mention officially support asking for talks - very few state publicly and specifically that they support your total claim of sovereignty over us Most of them actually recogise our Government as the Government of the Islands - and your neighbours actually do business with us also. Get a life! Take us to the ICJ then?
so-far-so-wrong
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0US Navy will help No.1 ally to train next-generation carrier crews
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-events/us_navy_will_help_no.htm
Admiral Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations for the US Navy, He added:
”The UK is at the top of the game in anti-submarine warfare
Both Admirals were due to hold more talks on shared interests this week. Admiral Roughead said: “The UK is our No.1 ally
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-events/us_navy_will_help_no.htm
isn’t it nice to be British,
Quite simply you are our friend or you are not, if the USA in its wisdom [oil] feels it cannot support the British, then in all fairness, the British thus cannot support the Americans, this would include withdrawal of British military from all theatres of conflict where we partner the American’s, perhaps also the withdrawal of ALL American bases from uk soil. then perhaps the American’s can feel comfortable knowing that their new allies Argentina, and their friends Ortega and Hugo, will send military aid and fight alongside American troops as there new friends,
i would suggest the American’s think long and hard, but more importantly the British government grow some real balls and courage and stand up to the American’s, you cannot have it both ways,
For they will certainly reap what they sow.
And being tough is something sadly lacking from British government’s for quite a few decades now
#34 relax mate....only read the article, I did not write. In any case you can correct them, they´re your countrymen.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seem to me that YOU are wrong, read again please
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2003263/Falkland-Islands-Britain-defend-English-Channel.html
It will always be easy for some ignorants who didn't live in argentina during the dictatorship, to criticise the behaviour of our people in 1982, however what none of you knows surely, is that all the chanles were in the hands of the junta, the censure was used all the time, and people was very manipulated for the lies of the propaganda of the dictatorship, that's why many people thought that we had recovered the malvinas.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the other hand, during the monthes of the war, there was a huge march which lemma was, malvinas si proceso no (yes to mavinas no to the process).
Anyway we have a big social debt with our compatriots who were sent to fight to the south atlantic, because when they returned to the continent, many of them were very discriminated, and was very difficult for them to find a job.
Respecting the negotiations, i never had any hope about the fact that the u.k. negotaites with argentina, unfortunately, the islanders and britain will continued being responsable for their own intransigence, realice once and for all that we are not asking you to accept only our sovereignty, we are just asking you to negotiate, it's not imposible to find a fair solution for both, however if you only accept self determination like the only one alternative, then dont complain if in the future we have more serious problems like in 2010.
Beside, learn to separate the context of the dictatorship from the actual context, you have no reasons to be affraid of a new invation, those terrible plans finished in june 14 of 1982, and finished for good.
Oh dear, the UN News Agency doesn't appear to have got the message - http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=38712&Cr=syria&Cr1=
Jun 15th, 2011 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Axel - you are wrong. Argentina does not JUST want to negotiate. Check out the Constitution!
Nice to see the Mad Professor has returned to astound us all with his fantastic array of in-depth knowledge and wisdom.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tte. Estevez, why don't you take YOUR case to the ICJ, you seem so confident, or yet again, are you allowing your mouth to run wild without in fact engaging your brain
Nice to see the Mad Ignorant,rimmer,talking about ICJ.
I have already explain,that Argentina invited 5 times to settle the dispute in an international arbitration court.
If you are SOOOOOOOO sure about the case.Why do not go you,lady bug,salt&pepper,and explain the case the brits have in the UN,C24,OAS,UNASUR......
Take us to the ICJ,why the brits did not accepted before?????
IGNORANT LIAR!!
@38 Tte Estevez,
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0As has been explained to you many times, fool, we do not have to take your silly country to the ICJ.
You have to take us! But your country willnot. Why?
We have no problem, we own & are in pocession of the Falkland lslands.
You have a problem, you wrongly believe that you own our land.
So, dear fellow, its up to YOUR country to go to the ICJ. Why doesnot your government do this?
lf you are so sure that you really own OUR land, then ask yourself this question.
Why won't my country go to the ICJ?
Are you intelligent enough to do this, rationally & without insults?
SiEster - a challenge. Name the international court of arbitration that Argentina supposedly asked the UK to go to (we don't have any record of your request).
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Axis couldn't do it and he's done a lot of research on the subject. The reason ... there was no recognised international tribunal existing at the time Argentina suggested the Falklands be taken to international arbitration.
And because Argentina HAS NOT fully signed up to the current international tribunal ( the ICJ ), the UK CANNOT force Argentina to go there!
So - up to you!
But Argentina will not go to the ICJ because her claim, and you, are full of cr*p - as normal.
@ 40 “But Argentina will not go to the ICJ” It's not necessary to go to the ICJ.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is ... if you actually want your claim to go anywhere. As it is, Argentina's claim is a joke, and probably an irritation to all the other nations that Argentina whinges to. An old joke that everyone know, and no longer amuses!
Jun 15th, 2011 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 42 it's “everyone knowS”, with an S, don't get nervous :)
Jun 15th, 2011 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 036 axel arg
Jun 15th, 2011 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have another tune or is that it?
Yes we are responsible for our attitudes and our aspirations, which mainly involve not being subjected to alien domination and subjugation by Argentina.
You, however, are fully responsible for your actions, and when those actions are a disgrace, I'll carry on complaining. And you can shove your 'dont complain if in the future we have more serious problems' wherever you like. I think I will carry on, thanks.
REDHOYT. MONTY69.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REDHOYT: Our constitution can say whatever, if both countries are called to negotiate a peaceful solution, like us or not, we will have to cede in some aspects of our pretentions, that's what a negotiation is about, it's not imposible to find a fair solution for both parts.
MONTY69: It's lammentable how ignorant you are, we dont want in absolut to subdue your people, in fact in argentina we have many cultures which live with a total freedom, you will always keep all the aspects that belong to your culture.
On the other hand, i respect the politic aspirations of the populations from the islands, but you dont respect our rights, your people and the u.k. keep on depriving our people of excercising our sovereignt rights on the Malvinas, the diference betwen you and i, is that i would never tell anyone from the islands, to shove hes politic rights, because i respect them, that's why i will repeat one million times if it's necesary that it's not imposible to find a fair solution for both populations, but if you decide to continue with same posture, then dont complain, because you and your people know very well that we wont never renounce to our claim.
we will have to cede in some aspects [patagonia perhaps]
Jun 15th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you no give,, we no give ,
we give, you take and ruin, oil oil oil its all about oil.
you want everything you cant have, and steal it if you have to,
but hey, thats argentina for you, ortega hugo C24 what else do you need,
a joker perhaps lol
Briton! you do not understand anything at all! your neurons are completely consumed by alcohol and like Rotten, is not the bloody resources of ours Malvinas Islands It just is a sentimental and we wants to regain ours that were stolen by the brits for over a century. Look that axel says ! mate!!!
Jun 16th, 2011 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@45 axel,
Jun 16th, 2011 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0So Axel, you will have to “cede in some aspects of your pretentions”
1) What exactly are you willing to“cede”?
2) l asked Herr Think this question & he gave a completely unacceptable answer.
3) So what would you give us in return for our sovereignty?
l warn you, it would have to be exceptional.
4) We don't respect your rights in the Falklands for the simple reason that you have no rights here. You are a foreign country.
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l look forward to your prompt reply, Axel.
Oh and by the way, please don't say that Monty69 is “ignorant” when she expresses an opinion. lt may be the norm in Argentina but we don't like it.
“we dont want in absolut to subdue your people, in fact in argentina we have many cultures which live with a total freedom”
Jun 16th, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the islanders can live with total freedom as part of Argentina...By force...
How is that freedom? They don't want to live within Argentina.
“depriving our people of excercising our sovereignt rights on the Malvinas,”
You don't have any.
This guy is a wise guy. He understands colonialism is a thing of the past. The only future for Falklanders is to assimilate into Argentina, as the Welsh did in the 19th century. Relying on “Mother England” is just not an option anymore. If they are there to stay, they should just be realistic.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the invasion cannot be blamed on the Argentine people, then why do the ahem...Argentine people still celebrate it? Why is something that cannot be blamed on the Argentine people, celebrated as a national holiday :) interesting lapses of logic by CFK.
Jun 19th, 2011 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sure as hell don't see the Germans trying to shift blame for both world wars onto their respective dictatorships and not the people :)
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