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Ban Ki-moon in Argentina; Falklands/Malvinas question on the table
UN General Secretary Ban Ki-Moon is in Buenos Aires for a two-day official visit and will be meeting President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner Monday morning. Foreign Affairs minister Hector Timerman is expected to bring up the “question of Falklands/Malvinas”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesJust how many times does Argentina wish to publicly embarrass herself?
Jun 13th, 2011 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Strange. Why doesn't the UN Secretary General visit the Falkland Islands? It's not as though it is a war zone. Yet!
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He doesn't need to. He can see where they are and can read the UK that sits beneath Falkland Islands. That is enough for him and he has never shown any meaningful interest in Argentina's question. Good Offices was what he offers last time. In other words “I have to listen to you but am not willing to get involved”.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is for domestic consumption, nothing more, nothing less.
I agree.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having been snubbed by the USA Presidential Tour, it would have been just too much humiliation the be then snubbed by the UN.
I imagine BKM will ask for CFK to release Ar. troops for peacekeeping in eg ?Somalia, ?Sudan, ?Libya, ?Yemen, ?Lebanon, ?Syria, ?Zimbabwe, ?Venezuela, ?Haiti, ?Honduras, ?Cuba, etc, etc - UN forces are becoming rather stretched as more and more countries seek democratic expression and freedoms.
PS ,Mercopress:
BKM was not Korean Foreign Affairs and Trade minister;
his country was called South Korea
- sloppy journalism (or still locked in the early 20th century?).
“ .... Hector Timerman is expected to bring up the “question of Falklands ....”
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He'd get more of a reaction if he brought up his lunch!
You see the Argies “question” the FI. They are unsure. There is no question of UK soverignty hence we don't bother talking about it in any diplomatic meetings. We have bigger fish to fry.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As BKM is campaigning for a second term he'll probably just tell Timerman whatever he believes he wants to hear - and then ferret around in an Atlas to find them afterwards.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Few of you read here the Telegraph, do you?
Jun 13th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, there are news today, so some should better toe the line ;-)
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/7331547/Official-British-history-of-the-Falklands-War-is-considered-too-pro-Argentina.html and
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8571442/Britain-can-do-nothing-to-prevent-Argentina-retaking-Falkland-Islands.html
Sorry. The above were NOT published by us.
'MADNESS IN GREAT ONES SHOULD NOT UNWATCHED GO'
(W.S.)
8 Argie
Jun 13th, 2011 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This was news, on 27th Feb 2010. Do try to keep up.
No Argie, I don't read such drivel. I have standards and prefer The Independent.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If we can't stop you taking the Falklands by force then why haven't you done so? Because you do not have the capacity and regardless what anyone says our military capacity is enough to scare the pants of any part of your sorry excuse for a military.
2 “Why doesn't the UN Secretary General visit the Falkland Islands?”
Jun 13th, 2011 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our country is very large and is not possible for UN General Secretary Ban Ki-Moon to visit every corner of Argentina, just the capital will do it.
2 Typhoon (#) “Why doesn't the UN Secretary General visit the Falkland Islands? ”
Jun 13th, 2011 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess he does not want to get cross-threaded with his C24,
who will, of course, want to visit the Islands in strength as preparation for their C24 Agenda item. ; )
You can imagine the conversation:
Jun 13th, 2011 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timmerman: We want the Falklands, cough, sorry meant the Malvinas, they're ours.
Ban Ki-Moon: Where are they?
Timmerman: They're 350 miles off-shore, Britain recovered, I mean usurped them in 1833.
Ban Ki-Moon: So you want islands that have been British for nearly 200 years. You should take this to the ICJ.
Timmerman: Errr, we don't wish to go to the ICJ. We shall take it to the C24.
Ban Ki-Moon: But the C24 is supposed to act for the peoples of dependent territories, the proper place to resolve a territorial dispute is the ICJ. Why won't you go there?
Timmerman: Because Mercosur supports us, and the OAS and we're pretty sure that we can get the Girl Guides of America on board. We're sponsoring their cookie drive.
Ban Ki-Moon: Thats all very well, the proper place to resolve a territorial dispute is the ICJ. Why won't you go there?
Timmerman: We were working on the ICJ, but one of the lawyers took some work home and the dog ate the legal brief.
Ban Ki-Moon: Its an election year isn't it.....
Marcos - Mr Ban is only visiting you as he has pity on you. Have pity on the poor Argies with the chip on their shoulder, they are the spokespeople for disappointment after all.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He doesn't have to visit the Falkland Islands as their soverignty is without question. Is yours?
“He will also visit the former ESMA Argentine Navy School of Mechanics clandestine detention centre”
Jun 13th, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does Ban Ki Moon have any more choice about going there than the people tortured or murdered there had?
“He doesn't have to visit the Falkland Islands as their soverignty is without question. Is yours?”
The obvious solution would be to give the Falkland sovereignty over Argentina. Argentina would have honest, non-demagogic government for the first time in history.
Mind you, the Argentines wouldn't like it one bit.
The only thing the Argies should be given is the cold shoulder.
Jun 13th, 2011 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hang on a minute, that is what they get all the time anyway. Normal service resumed then.
As we have said before, Argentina will grab this with both hands and think it’s the second coming,
Jun 13th, 2011 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will tape and re, tape any and all conversations, and even the slightest mention of supporting them or any mention of not supporting the FI they will seize on its very words,
A desperate nation in a desperate situation,
Children just waiting for the ice cream man,
But i hear that the UN will be sedated just in case lololol
@ 16 Beef, your heart will explode, calm down :)
Jun 13th, 2011 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 17 Jesus Christ is not coming, he's not real. Are you a Christian???
“A desperate nation in a desperate situation, ” The UK?
“Children just waiting for the ice cream man,” Paedophilia again, briton?
“lololol” roflmao and roflmaowmhomc
#13 :-)
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ban Ki Who ?
you wrote it, you must know lol
Jun 13th, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to me he's just a politician going around kissing babies before an election !
Jun 14th, 2011 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Of course I'll help you, .... trust me” :-)
“Trust in meeee, trust in meeee, trustin meeee, little man-cub, ssssssssss”
Jun 14th, 2011 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kaa (CFK trying hypnosis on BKM)
Mogli - O Menino Lobo (1967)
Any forum will do............whine, snivel, grovel etc.“but they're ours”.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Then go to the ICJ”
“Uh no, don't think so”
So shut up.
9 Python69. I'm keeping up... read this one then:
Jun 14th, 2011 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1381464-por-primera-vez-un-malvinense-tramito-un
Poor chap! What will his wife say?
15 Faulconbridge (#) “He will also visit the former ESMA Argentine Navy School of Mechanics clandestine detention centre”
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0. . . . and, if you remember rightly,
Ban Ke-Moon must make the compulsory visit to the Argentinian cenotaph;
it is so written in the Argentinian Constitution now, so it must be done !
Election Year Photo-Opportunity-of-the-Year :
BKM (UN), head bowed, Argentinian 1982 war-dead.
Apologies to all who feel deeply and personally, but Politics works like this.
24 Argie
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I imagine she'll be pleased as she is in fact Argentine.
All I can say is that his neighbours had better lock up their vegetables.
Jamie lives in a borrowed flat, 4th floor I believe, so there's no cabbage around to pluck. Why, any moron or criminal can get an Argentine ID these days! Who knows where's Mike Bingham now (the one one that falsified his credentiasl to get a job in the islands)? Supposedly here as well. Tha makes two... Well, this is what we deserve for voting the wrong people.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar Government yesterday called on the GSLP Opposition ”to abandon attendance at the Committee of 24
Jun 15th, 2011 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=21993
C24 what a waste of time and money ?
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JustinKuntz!!! hahaha! It was very funny what you wrote about! It made me laugh beacuse it is a Joke!!! The conversation should have been like this:
Jun 15th, 2011 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ban Ki Moon: So guy, Why don't you go and solve everything in the ICJ???
Timerman: ... It might be because UK has a permanent chair in the Security Council... and we might not get a very fare trial....
Ban Ki Moon: You are right!!!! hahahahahahaha But what you can do is get the support from the entire Americna continent (Including USA) as the OEA already did... That has to be right, I mean, All this country in your side of the world can`t be wrong...
Timerman.... Well, the British think they all are!!!
Ban Ki Moon: That's a good joke!
Justin (13) & YO_Arg. (29),
Jun 16th, 2011 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0fun postings - liked them & lol.
Many a good point made through humour.
: )
YO_Argentino: Security council has nothing to do with the ICJ.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31Zethe,
Jun 16th, 2011 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They've got no idea how things work
I Know how think works and I dont think that Argentina would get a fair trial by going to the UN. I dont know if you know but The Malvinas belongs to America and not to europe, therefore if there a leading process that try to discuss anything is my opinion this should be done thru the OEA but as I said, that's not gonna happen since America (where the island are at) already recognize Argentina Sovereignty over the Island.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but I lnow you know jack about how the real world works... Still, I try my best to show you how wrong you are.
@33YOYO,
Jun 17th, 2011 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know Jack, too? How is he today?
You don't go to the UN my lad, you go to the ICJ.
How many times has that been explained to you?
You think that Argentina would not get a fair trial! Whyis that? Because you know that really you do not own the lslands?
Finally, the Falklands do not belong to America, they belong to the Falklanders.
YOYO reckons he's a law student but he doesn't know much about the ICJ. But he's right about one thing, the Falkland Islands do not belong to Europe! They are British.
Jun 17th, 2011 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have been since 1765 at least. And who cares who recognises Argentine sovereignty. It's a fiction. Doesn't exist. The Union Jack flies over the Falkland Islands (with a sheep attached) ..... nothing else counts.
He's a law student and doesn't know the difference between the ICJ, UN and SC? Bloody classic!
Jun 17th, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahahaha! It is so funny! Im an student and im proud of it! Im not like a bunch of id*ots here who says they are lawyer and have master in bla bla bla! BullSh*t! I live and a few countries, i spoke 3 lenguages and im going for the 4th and i love studing from different sources and lenguages!
Jun 17th, 2011 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOu Isolde! If you wanna go to ICJ you go to the UN! Why? Becouse ICJ is the is the primary judicial organ of the United Nations!! (So, I won this one); 1:0; I do know that we will not get a fair trial, because UK is one of the main countries on the UN (due to army power) otherwise the island would have been handled to us a hundred years ago. 2:0; It seems that you know jack about geography! (hahahaha! this is a good joke) The Islas Malvinas belongs to America! (and argentina as well) 3:0.
Reddie-O: Again, I know how it works in the UN! Those who control the biggest armies are thos who decides the big Desition over there (like USA in the Irak war) So, hounoured lawyer, dont be such naive man! your are not gonna win any trial thinking the world and people are just good and honest per se! 4:0
I think we may talk to the duthches since they were the one who discovered the island... (dont they?)! master! you have to study more history, it seems that UK forgot to provide you good (and free) quality education! you could come and study for free here! 5:0
and you Zethe... you have a lot to grow up, buddy! If your are gonna open you mouth (or use your finger to type anything) with an annoying british accent, at least say somethime more interesting than “Bloody Classic” 6:0
@YOYO,
Jun 18th, 2011 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are a moron, didn't anyone tell you that?
lf you are the standard of education in Argentina, no wonder the country is a mess.
Are you saying that the ICJ is corrupt?
Plenty of your countrymen/women on here(for example, Malen), want us to go to the ICJ.
So by your reckoning, they are all wrong too?
Of course,fool,you realise that we don't have to take you to court, you have to take us. You did know that, YOYO law student, didn't you?
So if you won't recognise the ICJ, then what court would you like to have the case heard?
Yes, it is so funny, your grasp on history & law.
ICJ: why dont we go there?
Jun 18th, 2011 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A-In 1955 after UK submmitted to court the soveragnity of Arg and Chile over the antartica, Argentina (and Chile) rejected its jurisdiction on the matter of territorial disputes.
B-Minquiers & Ecreho Island case. France was able to show they soveragnity rights, still ICJ favored UK in this one. (and you still naive believing we will get a fair trial)
I think you are the most naive than moron! or both!
A: Is incorrect.
Jun 18th, 2011 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0B: Is incorrect.
Do your research. Minquiers & Ecreho was won in our favor because we provided anchient documents(Older than any france could) proving that the islands had historical links to jersey dating back to medieval times.
France's claim was because they fished in the area.
of course! bla bla bla bla!
Jun 18th, 2011 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41YOYO,
Jun 18th, 2011 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l guess that thats your intelligent reasoned answer sr YOYO.
You had better go back to school niño.
Dude, Im tired f answering back in three different post!!! (I have a life!). I will continue this conversation in the following post:
Jun 18th, 2011 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2011/06/13/us-main-interest-is-a-stable-argentina-warns-falklands-task-force-head?
Over there I explained 3 reasons of why not going to ICJ as well 6 reasons of why UK arguments about soveraignity rights over the island are very week. I also have 2 reasons of why UK needs to maintein the island (not posted yet) and a very good explanation on why self-determination is the worst and weakest argument the islanders and uk have.
Thanks,
You appear to be of the belief that 200 year old treatys on moldy papers have more rights than living, breathing human beings in this day and age.
Jun 19th, 2011 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is not correct.
Human rights is the direction the world is moving towards. Self Determination being one of said human rights.
:- )
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