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Falklands publicly invites Decolonization Committee president to visit the Islands
Falklands’ representative publicly invited the president of the UN Decolonization Committee to see for himself the reality of the self-sufficient and self-governing Islands, and called on C24 to recognize “the primacy of our right to self determination above anything and everything else”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesmad Falklanders are mad
Jun 21st, 2011 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you can never say no to a a free trip to an island, can you ?
Jun 21st, 2011 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good news, but the Falklanders should participate, not only the authorities of the Falklands. Zero tolerance with this scum of our government, that's what the UN must do. All this time the UN has been doing really NOTHING.
Jun 21st, 2011 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps this is what the UN and the C24 was after all along, seeing the Falkland’s crawl and plead for their integrity, justifying their very existence, and beg for forgiveness,
Jun 21st, 2011 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The time will come, when the talking ends and nature will take over,
we hope some poor basted will have mercy on their sole, because the man upstairs wont .and that deranged woman and her supporter’s will have to give a new meaning to hating the British , ????
The corrupt may let the Falkland’s down, but by Christ the British are able and willing to defend them,
Even if the UN wont .
just my opinion .
LOL the brits still dont get it... malvinas is a bilateral dispute. the UN said the Principle of territorial integrity have to be apply in this case and they still say self determination haha...self-sufficiency is when a normal colony gets free because they dont need anyone to rule them... but the UN resolution 2065 cancel that...sorry kelpies nice try,but not enough haha
Jun 21st, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL the argies , still dont get it
Jun 21st, 2011 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 01833 you lost
1982 you lost
2011,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,2020,2021,
You choose the date, you will still lose,
Better get your skates on, the HMS Elizabeth will be here soon .
Who needs the UN? When have they ever supported us? In 1982 they side with the British! Who needs the US? In 1982 they side with the British, they are former British colonials! Who needs the EU? In 1982 they side with the British! They do not listen to us, so we need to take action now to restore the Malvinas to their rightful rulers. We must ensure that the colonial population are removed, to make space for our own people and to ensure that the Mavlinas does not turn into a proxy colony of Britain, while under rightful Argentine administration. We must take all the socialista out now, clear the way for a strong government that can lead our nation. No more cowards like 82'!
Jun 21st, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has become of the war crimes they commit against us? The people of the Malvinas supported the British in 1982, they do not want us! WE DO NOT WANT THEM! GO HOME NOW!
Ha ha. Another war mongering Argie. Let me guess, you have decided to fight us with bad language and a psychologically disturbed president. Oh dear we are so scared.
Jun 21st, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let the oil flow!
but poor flipper if only the world was sane,
Jun 21st, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and indeed punnished those horible nasty criminals
but the main problem flipper, is they are all argentinians .
briton
Jun 21st, 2011 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are so stupid ,ignorant and arrogant person like pirates!!!!
Poor old Flipflop,you're having a bad day,best you get yourself back to the asylum.
Jun 21st, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A factual speech, well presented. It'll have been ignored by the C-24 no doubt, but then the C-24 usually gets ignored by the Fourth Committee on this issue so it all balances out :-)
Jun 21st, 2011 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Jun 21st, 2011 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kiwisarg ,, err does the truth hurt,
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Besides whom are you to come on here riding a Japanese motorbike and act stupid?
Besides how did your silly unhinged President review her great navy .
= Using a Glass bottomed boat!
7#......Well Flipflop...... . “We must ensure that the colonial population are removed, to make space for our own” ..........................Colony?
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have never been colonialists like you. We simply want our land back, as the people of Zimbabwe wanted their land back from the British colonial farmers. If the people of Las Malvinas do not leave we will occupy the land with our war veterans as Mugabe did. I admire Mugabe for standing up to the British colonial, serving his people and returning the land to his people.
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“MLA Edwards said that former chairman Donatus Keith St Aimee visited Argentina “and no doubt received a very biased briefing” and was also invited to the Islands “in order to experience the reality , but did not visit”
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh poor baby, Mr Roger Edwards next time you invite the former chairman Donatus Keith St Aimee to visit your country be more specific, last time you did that he went to Brinkworth, England.
FlipFlop, Argentina has never owned the Falkland Islands. The relevance of Zimbabwe eludes me, but you are right in that Mugabe has done such a wonderful job for his people - from the 'bread basket' of Africa to the 'basket-case' of Africa in one rule ! Wonderful!!
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 016 Filippo
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We have never been colonialists like you. ”
After independence Argentina conquered, annexed, colonised the Pampa, Patagonia, and Tierra del Fuego regions; territories which were never Spanish.
“ I admire Mugabe for standing up to the British colonial, serving his people and returning the land to his people.”
Mugabe is giving the land to his party cronies, not to the Zimbabwean people.
Using a Glass bottomed boat!
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 04:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0For sure,we will see a LOOT of RN ship,sunks!
For sure,we will see a LOOT of RN ship,sunks
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0And if the Argie navy hadnt of cowered in port,we would of seen a lot of sunk argie ships
Oh! Poor Mohammeds, I feel so sorry for them...
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Army, No carriers, No planes, No budget, No money, No jobs, No credit, No hopes, No dignity, No sense of ridiculous, No visits from C24 chairman Donatus Keith, No flag?
Its not depressing?
And if that it is not enough disgrace they have a couple of representatives that looks like “Crocodile Dundee” with cultural shock after seen a lift, a wide road and a couple of buildings in US explaining to civilised people trivial things that people takes every day for granted.
Oh! The guy says that he has a hospital ha ha ha Who cares? Are you joking? Is this people real? Are they really governing the Islands? Such an improvised jokers they are ha ha ha
Are you sure guys that this is not a remake of the Australian hero in America?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JcAUz9s_p8g/TEBSIJSdSfI/AAAAAAAAPFo/f9V29U-4hcA/s1600/celebridades9.jpg
And people thinks that the talibans where out of touch. You figure out...
“ ... that people takes every day for granted...”
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0i.e. that the Falkland Islands are British. Quite right Dim, and so they should be. Now you take your tablets ... and go and have a lie down :-)
@22
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0....and in spite of all that....for you there is No Malvinas, No hope of getting them, No real support from anyone for your claim, No chance in the ICJ....and so on.
:-))
My message to the people of Las Malvinas, there is no need to be afraid, you can become born again in Argentina and we will give accept you as Argentine, if you wish to remain British please understand that you will be treated as illegal immigrants and deported back to your homeland at the first opportunity. It is simple we ofer you the choice now, learn Spanish, come to Argentina and understand our claim to your land. It is Argentina and you are in our country as squatters since 1833, you have no rights to that land as squatters. You are an illegal occupation. If you were in Israel as Palestinians you would be shot. We are being much kinder, we offer you become Argentinian like the honorable James Peck. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE, WE WILL CLEANSE YOU ALL, YOU WILL BE IN DESIGNATED BOMBING RANGE!
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, if you have a brain can you please answer Yes or No to the following questions:
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should the UN show bias in any form to one side or the other in its deliberations over the Islands?
Vargas, you really need to start taking those tablets.
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL.... Freedom?
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we do not wish Argentina or any country to dictate our future”
I think that's the way it SHOULD be, but unfortunately that's not the reality. Falklands is just UK's weekend house, they don't have identity at all.
FlipFlop, you are some kind of idiota .... the islands have been British since 1765 ... not 1833! Stupid child!
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arse-Soul - you appear no brighter than FlipFlop.
The Falkland Islands are British. Have been for longer than Argentina has existed. Will be when Argentina falls apart! Get used to it!!
26 Islander1
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“if you have a brain can you please answer Yes or No to the following questions:
Should the UN show bias in any form to one side or the other in its deliberations over the Islands?”
Islander, If you have a brain you should know that the aswer is NO.
The UN is controlled by a small group of countries(UN Security Council) because they won some war 66 years ago, and happen to be that one of those countries(UK) is one of the two in the Malvinas dispute.
@28
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your 'reality' = fiction mate, you know bugger all about the Falklands apart from that it's a bad case of sour grapes for you.
”The UN is controlled by a small group of countries(UN Security Council)”
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has nothing to do with the ICJ.
@30 Oh yeah. We just happened to win a war 66 years ago. A war Argentina was too cowardly to join. A country (Argentina) that gave refuge to thousands of the worst mass murderers in the last thousand years. So that they could learn how it was done. Unfortunately, yoy haven't caught up with your teachers yet. When are you getting round to the next 5,970,000?
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Typhoon (#) Argentina did join the war in the last week we joined, we joined wrong side and returned crew of U977 which we should never done!
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hitler destroyed your Empire, now all you have is Gibraltar and Las Malvinas. Your colonial populations have been repatriated from Kenya, India, Zimbabwe and soon will be from South Africa! Your population in the UK will soon be dwarf by third world immigration and East European. Your navy is no longer a blue water navy, just patrol boats, your air force can not even defeat Gadaffi milita, your Army is incapable of winning against third world insurgent Afghanistan. Your Police can not control violent social breakdown society in UK, in Northern Ireland the people wish to reunit with South. In Scotland the Scottish wish for independence, in Wales the wish is for independence, in Cornwall they wish for independence. Your cousins in America are being outnumbered by Latinos and no longer look to you. In Canada they no longer wish to have your Queen rule over them, in New Zealand and Australia they wish to become rebulic. Your Empire is dieing.
Anyone else just notice the above?
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What? Flipper's mad rant?
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About how the RN is a patrol boat navy (which actually has about twice the total number of ships that the ARA has (not including the RFA and the RMAS, but including their Argentine equivalents)?
Or how the RAF/FAA/RFC are more concerned with not killing Lybian civilians than they are about destroying Gadaffi loyalists in built up areas (incidentally, didn't Gadaffi supply Argentina with Strela 2 MANPADS in 1982?)
Or...
Or...
Or...
Filippo, I think you need to do a bit of self education.
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hitler did not destroy our Empire. We destroyed him. And we gave the colonies who wanted it independence because it was the right thing.
It's not just Gibraltar and the Falklands. You forgot: Anguilla, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Montserrat, Pitcairn, St Helena (and dependencies), The Turks & Caicos Islands. Not to mention the other territories which have no resident populations.
Why are there still white populations in Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa if you say they were repatriated? And the Brits in India never amounted to more than a few thousand, and some of those stayed after 1948.
The UK dwarfed by third world immigration and East European. Why is that a problem? We have had immigration into the British Isles for millennia. It makes us stronger. You are obviously racist if you think there is something wrong with people from the third world and Eastern Europe.
Not a blue-water navy? Only patrol boats? You forgot our submarines...
We are not trying to defeat Gadaffi. We are helping the Libyan opposition to defeat him. And it will happen in good time, you wait and see.
You are probably right about Afghanistan, even so, it provides our Army with valuable experience.
Our police cannot control violent social breakdown? What? What makes you think either the latter is happening and the former is the case. You probably read the Daily Mail too much.
You have no idea what you are talking about regarding Ireland. You should read a bit more widely.
Most Scots are for retaining the Union, so you are incorrect. The same goes for Wales. Don't confuse devolution with independence. One does not necessarily lead to the other. You obviously know nothing about Cornwall
Who cares what happens in America?
Canada, NZ and Australia can become republics if they want to. They are independent countries and have been for more than 100 years.
Our Empire ended decades ago. You need to keep up!
@37. An excellent answer. I fear it will be wasted on the troll.
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos- no it is ideed(as many of us know anyway) you who has little brain.
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only time the Islands issue has ever got to the Security Council was when your side invaded in 1982 - and that is what the SC is for surely - helping keep world peace and apprtioning blame when military actions start.OH- please name the Permanent SC Member who is backing Brazil to become another Permanent SC Member? Clue- name begins with UK.
But I am please that you agree that the UN should NOT show bias. Then you will support the isdea that the new Chairperson of the C24 should vist the Islands to at least balance the current biased situation - no reason why he could not vist Argentina as well.
Lets go one further- Arg claims at the OAS that it is an infringement of S America etc that we are who we are - What would be wrong with the OAS either inviting the Islands to come and put our case - or - sending a team here to find out and see for themselves who and what we are?
After all there are always TWO sides to any dispute or argument as we both know.
Filippo 33 - please publish the voting percentages and dates of democratic referendums which show Canada,Australia and NZ want to get rid of the Queen as head of State? Also how come there are many thousands of white people in Africa - living happily in and citizens of nations that years ago were British- whose origen was indeed actually Britain? Also try the same in many Caribbean nations. Not that long ago one of the most respected people in Independent Trinidad and Tobago
was the democratically elected white (born in UK) chief of police!
One word sums you up - it begines with A- has an “rseh” in the middle and ends with another E.
Seriously guys, it's a Brit posing as an Argy. Why feed the troll?
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0zethe,
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What makes you think his is a brit,
i think he is someone like Fido, but not him,, one of these guys that live in another country like the USA , and talks crap,
Today im sending the guy to Coventry,
@41 I honestly think that is the best way. I enjoy a debate but you cannot discuss anything with a troll.
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i agree elaine B
Jun 22nd, 2011 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he seems to have a hatred for us, @
flip flop is going in the bin
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ ... Forget the fighting talk. The Prime Minister will be dead meat if he loses the Falklands...”
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2007122/Prime-Minister-David-Cameron-dead-meat-loses-Falklands.html#ixzz1Q52IDbqD
And THAT is the political reality in the UK. And THAT is why Britain will not engage in talks over sovereignty until hell freezes over. And THAT is why, if push comes to shove we'll turn the Falkland Islands into an armed camp.
Argentina beware!
@Redhoyt
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dreaming again?
Next year Ukistan will be so weak that they will implore us to get the islands back. Trust me default is closer than ever.
But if you want a military solution no problem I guess Cristina will have to spend more in defense and assure an indubitable defeat of Britain.
time will tell how brave is Cameron and your Royal Navy...
Yeah, Dim ... yeah :-)
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0But if you want a military solution no problem I guess Cristina will have to spend more in defense and assure an indubitable defeat of Britain.
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And get your nation to grow some balls
45 Rotted, Nice article you posted.
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”What do they mean dead meat if he looses the falklands, we have already lost Britain to europe and thats worse.
- James, UK
“What makes you think his is a brit,”
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His mannerisms and grammar are typical of someone with good english skills yet his word placing is dumbed down on purpose to make it look like he's not so good with the english language.
Lots of his “storys” are told from the British point of view(Luis Vernet asking for British permission for one example).
He can't speak(Type) in spanish as a native speaker would.
No Argentinian calls the falklands the Los Malvinas.
The over the top nature of it just screams he's a Brit pretending to be an Argy. I eve think i know who it is.
Briton your a joke mate,
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Listen ”hero Your nation does not have an aircraft carrier for at least a few years time, so u can spew out all that war mongering out of your mouth, the fact is the Islas Malvinas would be almost impossible to hold on too for much longer.
would be almost impossible to hold on too for much longer.
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How do you work that one out?
The Falkland Islands are a United Kingdom Overseas Territory by choice,so not a Colony......so why turn up at a UN Decolonization Committee meeting to discuss Argentina turning it in to a Colony.............Discuss
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 050 zethe , i have replied on another post, if you think you know who he is, perhaps you may spill the beans, I’m thinking his [eyes] and [time of posting] was a clue, but maybe not, [back to the drawing board]
Jun 23rd, 2011 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 051 Tigre2000 /// 50 years a comedian and you only think ones a joke
The only real joke my friend is a fool who overestimates his ability.
And vastly underestimate’s, others,
In such a violent world, all we need is one [JUST ONE] sub
And your country is history, [if it ever came to it] but it never will.
But we have 4 subs that are quite capable of ending the problem if it ever got out of hand,
So please don’t fret about the carriers, if the shit ever hit the fan, our carrier would be the least of your problems,
i would worry about your own deranged leader, before she drags a once great country down the drain ..
53 Viscount Falkland
Jun 24th, 2011 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas is a British colony, to make it even worse you send two englishman to represent this colony to the UN Decolonization Committee, good job!
WE.... didn't send anybody. The chair left for the UK was vacant ... again! The Falkland Islander's sent some of their own.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0And they did well, so it was indeed a 'Good Job'.
@briton
Jun 24th, 2011 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are making look yourself more silly than you really are.
If your own commanders recognise the weakness of your nation, may be they know something that you don’t.
Please try to be smart next time and start to assume the poor state of your nation.
The Tories are incompetent morons. They cut the navy savagely right before the Falklands war then had to scramble to get back a carrier they had arranged to sell to Australia. There will be no last minute save this time.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0simvastatin 20 mg
@ JamieWanda
Jun 24th, 2011 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0But they can still ask one carrier to the French is Cameron can learn some French first. Ha ha
Can you lend me a carrier Sarko?
If you ask in French I will tink about it.
: )
Jamie all this bleating about carriers from the defence Chiefs is based on the idea that we are going to imminently lose the Falklands, fortunately that is just not going to happen, the armed forces on the islands today are infinetly far more capable than the 88 marines and Islanders in 1982.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine military has zero offensive capability, they barely have enough air assets to land a parachute battalion let alone mount an amphibious assault with their one landing ship! Chavez said he might help but his armed forces are in no better state either and the political repercussions for both countries would be disastrous....
In short the only issues the Falklands will face would be low level harassment by the Argentines which only serve to distract the population at election time, successive Argentine presidents have always boomed about how they will recover the Falklands and never cease in their glorious struggle....have any of their bombastic patriotic calls been achieved....Nope.
Argentina is all thunder but bugger all in the way of wind :)
And that was it! After a grand total of 5 days work in New York the C-24's gravy train finished with ......... nil points!
Jun 24th, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Rhaurie-Craughwell
Jun 24th, 2011 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Chavez said he might help but his armed forces are in no better state either and the political repercussions for both countries would be disastrous....”
Ha ha Rhaurie take a look just over 50 Sukoi 30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
Miages, F16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
Helicopters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
Anti-air portable missile IGLA-S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
New Russian missiles system bough by Venezuela
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
More toys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0RkzA5BIM
I guess you are f@cked if you even try to have a war down here and I didn’t show our shopping list ha ha
Keep dreaming is cheap and Camerun doesn’t tax it yet.
Riiiiight arm chair Generalissmo Nicodume, how exactly are all these toys getting to the Falklands without getting noticed....You obviously still haven't factored that equation into your logic?
Jun 24th, 2011 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To put it another way, the offensive transport capabilities of the Venzeulan military are even less than Argentina.
Tell me how GCHQ and MI6.....in fact anybody, is not going to notice an extensive build up of Venezuelan hardware on the one Argentine airbase you have within striking distance of the Falklands?
Answer no one! so seeing that Argentina and Venzeula are trying to play silly buggers again the islands are reinforced accordingly! problem solved.
These fantasy invasions you dream up Nicodume are based on quite hillarious impossibilities :)
There is 0% of chance of any invasion actually succeeding, for such a highly unlikely scenario to succeed would require a rapid mobilization by Argentina and Venzeula with logistical assets they don't have, and for that mobilization to be noticed by nobody which is about as likely as you saying something sensible.
Such concepts, although orgasmic to fantasists such as yourself, are so fictional not even Tom Clancy could write a novel about them even he took hallucinogenics.
Would also have to take the base in under 48 hours from the ships being detected on radar. Not going to happen.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos Alejandro, You could get your new recruit and fine Argentine citizen ,Mr Peck to represent your cuntry...oop's spelling mistake....country !
Jun 24th, 2011 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not even that Zethe any build up of military hardware that big would be seen at least a week in advance and thats if our intell is having a lazy day :)
Jun 24th, 2011 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our intelligence assets in the Islands and on the mainland are phenomenal compared to the one MI6 field officer we had in 1982, the faintest wiff of any skull duggery (like in 2007) and those token defenders (or gays ass pussies as Fernanda-Fierra rabidly claims them to be) would look a bit more formidable.
I can understand the Defence chiefs are angry they lost their carriers, but quite simply any re-run which is unlikely will not require us to be retaking the islands, since we will not be losing them in the first place. And anyway, Argentina and Venzeula just don't have the capability to launch an amphibious and air operation on the scale required to take the Islands.....Its a non-starter and the defence chiefs know that, their just trying to grab public support for a defence re-think.
Aye. I agree with getting rid of the carriers early to be honest. They had there day along with the harriers, getting rid of them now means in 9 years we'll have something decent to use.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@66Rhaurie,
Jun 25th, 2011 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0l hope you're right. Lets not underestimate the depths of their hatred.
They see us & the UK as a stumbling block to the expansion of the Argentine Empire into Antarctica.
Hitler underestimated the Russians in 1941 & look how that turned out.
l believe a famous American said “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance”.
Very true, l endorse that, wholeheartedly.
Isolde I don't for a second underestimate the baffling depths of dislike that many of the ultra nationalist lobby have in Argentina for the Falklands and the UK, I would not put it past them for low level aggression and harassment against soft targets i.e fishing vessels and the occasional symbolic Special forces infiltration such as the amateurish Concordia bay incident in 2000, but that is about it. The current garrison reflects the current state of the threat from Argentina, and that rises and decreases in tune to how real a threat Argentina is.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0For Argentina and Venezuela to try a re-run of 1982 it would take them at least 10 years to buy up enough kit and hardware to mount any kind of invasion against a garrison of that size and capability, and as I said any build up that large would not go unnoticed and our intell assests are pretty darn good in that part of the world now, we can also have a brigade on the ground within 24 hours, which is a formidable difference from several weeks in 1982!
The Islands have nothing to worry about except perhaps being deafened by the incoherent whining noise of their neighbour, all these rants and raves by Nicdumarse and Fernanda-Fierra are just that...rants and raves by angry little men who have sour grapes that they lost in 1982, none of them have any military knowledge or service experience, what you see being posted by them is pure fantasy with a military twist, these are the kind of people you will find firing their fathers luger pistol in Utah or somewhere, live alone with their cat and go down to the local wargames convention and seeing if they can reverse the outcome of Goose-green or any other disastrous results that way far to heavily on their feeble minds :)
Rhaurie:
Jun 25th, 2011 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's also a misconception that carriers would be required to retake the islands, this is not the case. Air superiority would be unobtainable without them, yes. But it's just as easy to deny them any aircraft with a few tommahawks landing on there runways.
zethe
Jun 25th, 2011 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you remember a few years ago,
The British built a new runway, big enough to take transport planes from the R.A.F ,,
ST Helena, this thinking of hindsight,
The British would be quite capable of running some operations from here,
They can resupply from here, and as you say, deny the argie from Stanley,
If in correct, this may be possible..
Yeah i agree with you, it's 100% possible. I mean the carriers are a great asset and will be amazing when they are here. But it wouldn't be impossible without them.
Jun 26th, 2011 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also the difference between them is this. The last war even with the carriers we couldn't gain complete Air superiority.
These new ones we would be able to. They each can fly over 100 combat missions a day and carry over double the aircraft the last three did.
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