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Summers wins Falklands MLA seat: favours strong response to Argentina and north-south links
Former member of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly, Mike Summers has been voted back into the government by a substantial margin. Voting took place in Stanley on Thursday in a by-election, which saw 51% of the electorate going to the polls. Read full article
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Jun 24th, 2011 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Summers said that the Argentine Government “is as aggressive as it has been for many years; we risk losing ground in both political and economic spheres”
Jun 24th, 2011 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh poor baby...Get used to it :-)
The Argie gvt may be aggressive but it is still toothless and cowardly.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let the oil flow!
They are used to it Marcos. You've been doing that kind of stuff for the best part of 40 years now. Unsuccessfully I might add.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, Elvis got more votes for my School Captain...haha.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, Elvis got more votes for my School Captain...haha
Jun 24th, 2011 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0And considerably more than General Leopoldo Galtieri
The Argies loved him when he invaded the FI. Fickle bunch!
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do they love Elvis as well as perhaps he would be a more effective leader that their current psycho?
The Elvis conspiracy is about like the Malvinas to most of the numnutts Argei bloggers posting here:
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0- Devoid of any factual truth, but ultimately keeps the witless and stupid happy.
@3 Beef
Jun 24th, 2011 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is the oil really flowing down there in the Malvinas ?
Maybe it is ... in your wildest dreams !
British-Argentine [bad and nasty comments won’t be tolerated]
Jun 24th, 2011 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh sorry, its ok for idiots like you to slag of the brits, but not the other way round.
Democracy, [you guys haven’t a clue]
Crawling up the backside of your unhinged master, might explain your actions,, fool.
Just a though mmmm
Is the oil really flowing down there in the Malvinas ?
Jun 24th, 2011 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe it is ... in your wildest dreams
Corned beef does not know what he is talking.....
Much more posibilities lies in the Argentine sea....
@11
Jun 24th, 2011 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good, so you won't be wanting the Falklands then.
;-)
#2 It might be you who has to get used to it. Hope you're up for it.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Estevez - Explain what on earth RKH are currently “flow testing” then?
Jun 24th, 2011 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have just relegated yourself to the Marcos league of intelligence with that comment.
Beef, league of intelligence ? You must be the president of such organization
Jun 24th, 2011 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)))
41 Beef (#)
Mar 19th, 2011 - 10:16 pm
Marcos -Back on story - looks like we have sent a few Tomahawks into Libya. Watch the fall of another dictator!
Over three months later and I'm still waiting Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz please wake me up when your prediction turns into reality.
“No wonder we can't even topple a tin-pot gangster like Gaddafi: Invincible, pride of the Falklands, is broken up in knacker's yard”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003673/HMS-Invincible-goes-knackers-yard-No-wonder-topple-Gaddafi.html#ixzz1QCl8RfBk
Yes Marcos, my prediction will ring true and Gadafi will fall. He is dug in like an Alabama tick but will be removed. Let me guess, you think I will be wrong????
Jun 24th, 2011 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How long did it take you to get rid of your dictatorship? It also happened a lot quicker when the UK got involved and embarrassed them for all the world to see. No need to say thank you, I know you appreciate what we did for you.
I see you like to refer to the Daily Mail, yep you are on a distinctly lower rung of the evolutionary scale.
Over three months later and I'm still waiting Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz please wake me up when your prediction turns into reality
Jun 24th, 2011 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well just as well it aint going the speed of the Argies in “” Taking the Falklands” :-)))))))))
Ugh! The Daily Mail - the paper for racists, misogynists and zenophobes. What was it the founder, Lord Rothermere, said of his target market? “Give them a hate-a-day”. Lovely.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Over three months later and I'm still waiting Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz please wake me up when your prediction turns into reality.”
Jun 24th, 2011 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wake us up when you have “recuperado las malvinas”...
I never understood what the real reason you have to be an independent territory, are a few people who are on islands with nothing to defend, you have no ideology of its own (you responding to the Queen of UK), you are not a religious group claiming a holy land, you only defend a space just because, and you are there ... Thanks to the colonial policy of UK exercised for hundreds of years.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I respect all opinions kelpers, but you have to be conscious that in 10 years (or earlier) will face a reality that is going to be difficult to assimilate. You've got to think about buying a new life or find another hole in another part of the map.
Meanwhile, Latin America is strongest in the world (especially in the ideology of brotherhood) and the European Union begins to fall to pieces ... Who will help you?
@20
Jun 24th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You respect our opinions yet you want us out....why?...what possible harm can a tiny country like the Falklands do to your Latin American Brotherhood as you call it.
Your respect is a sham, your first paragraph shows how little you know or understand about us Falkland Islanders.
20 rmalone-------Latin American brothers!!!! don't make me laugh, each one of you would cut each others throats if it meant getting one up on one another. You must be living in a fairy tale that only you lot believe in. How is it the whole of the world can see you for what you lot really like but you lot are blind as a person without eyes and who is blindfolded while wearing shades and are out at night when there is no moon.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22 you for what you lot really like but you lot are blind as a person without eyes and who is blindfolded while wearing shades and are out at night when there is no moon......
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you should copyright it this bro , somebody can make a lot of money with this kind of writing !!! lol!
Dear WestisBeast (#21)
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Answering your first question, I, as an Argentine, I will not do him any harm to you or anyone living in the islands. I do not want to leave, it goes beyond people ...
This will be defined by the lever that the world towards solving the problem. And this depends on the people but the evidence has my country geographically and territorially.
You've got to sit down and negotiate think you have no other chances, time is running out and pressure will be larger.
You should think about your future, the future of your children and grandchildren. Never be able to thrive without our help. The world is changing and you are staying at the time.
“you only defend a space just because, and you are there”
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yup, it's their home. For 9 generations. Why else would they defend it?
rmalone- check your facts please. We are country(a very small one I agree) in so far as we have our own elected Govt and run all our own affairs internally (the “Queen” as you claim - actually does NOT run anything here internally!only defence and foreign relations), we have a viable economy, money in the reserves and no debt. We have good relatiosn with several of your neighbours with who we trade and do business with on a regular basis- they recognise our Govt.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never be able to thrive without our help.
Joke of the week
rmalone ,,hi,, another lost tourist, allow me to help
Jun 24th, 2011 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the loony bin is 1st on the left,. just being helpfull.
Dear stick up... (#27)
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You believe that no oil in the islands?
There is much oil but can not remove it because they need resources from the continent.
This is the first indication that they can not prosper ... Open your eyes!
Argentina and Latin America will block commercially and economically to the islands.
With all due respect ... or sit down to negotiate or will end up going alone ...
Think calmly ... for your children
... and not a joke
If you ever need any evidence that mental illness is rife in Argentina then look here. How many Argies have delusions of grandure or some other warped sence of reality.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the FI were ripe for the picking then why do they not invade with their four patrol boats? If Argentina had a legal case then why do they not take their case for legal adjudication? These are two questions that they avoid all the time. Answering them makes them realize that they have no capacity to threaten the islands or a legal basis. Reality is clearly painful for them.
Let the oil flow.
“There is much oil but can not remove it because they need resources from the continent.”
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's not true.
@24
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You've got to sit down and negotiate think you have no other chances, time is running out and pressure will be larger.”
Negotiate for what pray? I suggest you read your own constitution, not much room for negotiation with us is there? I'll spell it out for you...we're Falkland Islanders, not Argentinians (not matter what Jamie Peck says), you have nothing to bring to a negotiating table that isn't to our detriment, to put it bluntly all we get from you lot is stick, where's the carrot?
rmalone - next time you open your trap try to make sure you know what you are talking about because what you have just said makes you look like a proper tit.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oil production in the FI will be conducted with a FPSO set up and all wells and manifolds etc will be shipped in, set up, ran and decommissioned without any need for resources from continental South America. They will all be subsurface and the FPSO tanker will simply cruise up, connect and once full go straight to the refinery for the oil to go to market. At the same time they can stick two fingers up to you as there is bugger all you can do about it.
RKH have already presented the FPSO oil production strategy in Stanley. Try harder next time or simply know your limits.
you argies will keep pushing untill you get to the edge,
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then run,
nothing new there then,
brag brag yawn yawn, make a new record .
Didn't know they had anything to brag about?
Jun 24th, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is much oil but can not remove it because they need resources from the continent.
Jun 24th, 2011 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats a first, a Argie accepting that there is oil in the Falklands
MollyMalone - why on earth do you think that Argentina will get its grubby thieving hands on the Falkland Islands in the next ten years when it didn't manage it in the last 10. Or the 16 decades prior to that!
Jun 24th, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another youngster, with no sense of history.
If the FI were ripe for the picking then why do they not invade with their four patrol boats? If Argentina had a legal case then why do they not take their case for legal adjudication? These are two questions that they avoid all the time. Answering them makes them realize that they have no capacity to threaten the islands or a legal basis. Reality is clearly painful for them.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The reality we invited the uk for arbitration,like 5 times.They never wanted,because they know you will loose.
Oil production in the FI will be conducted with a FPSO set up and all wells and manifolds etc will be shipped in, set up, ran and decommissioned without any need for resources from continental South America. They will all be subsurface and the FPSO tanker will simply cruise up, connect and once full go straight to the refinery for the oil to go to market. At the same time they can stick two fingers up to you as there is bugger all you can do about it.
Really corned beef? Comming from an authority like you,I will not put a dime in those companies.
When the oil flow from the Argentine sea,you will not get a dime....
The possibilities,from the Argentine sea,are 100 times better than in Malvinas....
So put your fingers,where they belong......
I'm reading some RG History.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0written by an RG.
Writing about the voyage of John Narbrough he states.
In February 1670 they take symbolic possession of Port Desire (Puerto Deseado) in the name of His Majesty Charles II.
Southern Argentina belongs to the English.
So all you RG's better pack your bags.
SiEster. Prove it. Show me where you officially invited the UK to go to an international tribuanal over the Falkland Islands and then name the tribunal. You'll have a little difficulty with the latter if not the former because there was no such organisation.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0But hey ........ invite us again :-)
SiEster. Prove it. Show me where you officially invited the UK to go to an international tribuanal over the Falkland Islands and then name the tribunal. You'll have a little difficulty with the latter if not the former because there was no such organisation.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sure...lady bug.......
Why do not go you,with the 2 clown Salt & pepper to The UN,C24,Unasur,OAS.......not even the yanks are siding with the brits..
Here you go Soldado Estevez. A list of all the ICJ cases going back to its inception.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm afraid I can't see where Argentina invited the UK for arbitration “like 5 times”.
I can only see 1, yes ONE case involving the UK and Argentina. In 1955. That was when the UK took Argentina to the ICJ to test the sovereignty of South Georgia, South Sandwich etc. Argentina rejected the jurisdiction of the ICJ. Why? Is it because you knew you had not case and would lose? I am 100% that is the reason. Yet you still claim SGSSI even though you have no basis for your claim.
So ... no proof then SiEster? So it didn't happen!
Jun 25th, 2011 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the Yanks ... don't rely on the press, check out the U.S. State Department's web site, which lists the Falkland islands sovereignty as 'British' and only mentions in a footnote that Argentina is making a claim!
http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm
So much for your U.S. support.
Well said J.A. and spot on. The Argentine case is so leaky it's difficult to keep air in!
That list of ICJ cases:
Jun 25th, 2011 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=2
Apologies, forgot to include in last comment.
Show us those 5 cases Soldado Estevez. If you can...
Estevez - so you avoided to say why you have not decided to take the islands by force. As evidenced by the points above your five mythical attempts to take the issue for legal arbitration are exactly that, a myth.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have already made a great profit on trading DES. With such volatility making money was as easy as getting an Argie to sign a surrender document. RKH are not far from declaring confirmed commerciality of sealion and there is nothing you can do about it.
Regarding my two fingers, I am more than happy to hold them in a V for victory sign in your general direction.
Galtieri was a hero for invading the islands, it was the anglo-Argentines that let us down with their spying activities! We need to rid ourselves of all colonials in Latin America including.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0.... the spanish !?
Jun 25th, 2011 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually Flipflop I think you will find that it was the running away of your troops that let you down in 1982!
Jun 25th, 2011 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo #46 wants to remove 97% of Argentineans.
Jun 25th, 2011 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo - where do you want them to go?
- why?
@49
Jun 25th, 2011 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what do I do with gradma ?? back to Spain??
Dear Art #50,
Jun 25th, 2011 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0old grandma?
I don't know:
erradication? or
export?
- better ask Filippo which he recommends.
@51 Export? or a simple case of returning merchandise ....
Jun 25th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see Estevez has gone quiet after his unsubstantiated claims have been exposed. No stomach to stick it out these Argie big mouths are they?
Jun 25th, 2011 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 029 rmalone
Jun 26th, 2011 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you dare talk about our children. If you cared anything for them, or for anything except your own greed and selfishness, you'd leave us in peace. We don't need anything from you except normal friendly relations, and for you to behave like decent civilized people.
Here you go Soldado Estevez. A list of all the ICJ cases going back to its inception.
Jun 26th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure Pinochio Roberts.I mus admit I like you.You have no brains,but I think you are honest.
Sure: Pinocchio roberts: We invited 5 time uk for arbitration,uk never accepted...
Why uk and Malvinas are loosing always at the UN,OAS,UNASUR....
C24,edwards was imploring to accept malvinense arguments.They are sooo pathetic......not even the yanks are siding with the brits....
Pinochio roberts: Why do not go with edwards at the C24, and help them,since you know a lot about history and international law..
Take david,justin and the 2 clown salt & pepper with you(for extra help)...
“Why uk and Malvinas are loosing always at the UN,OAS,UNASUR....”
Jun 26th, 2011 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What exactly, have we lost?
55- are you saying Arg 5 invites to arbitration were at OAS.UNASUR,C24? These organisations have NO legal power to arbitrate of anything!!
Jun 26th, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not only that the UK and the Islands are never even invited to the o0AS and UNASUR to explain our case!!
Can you not get it - there is but ONE place that has the power to arbitrate and rule and that is called the IJC!
Can you also not get it into your head that as Arg has publicly stated several times the only solution to any talks will be full sovereign control- and has their claim of full sovereign control over the Islands formally written into their constitution, and has made it clear on many occasions that the peolpe of the Islands have no rights of any say in their future at all - there can never be any talks dumbo!
Talks and negotiations happen only when both sides want to solve a problem and enter into them with NO predetermined fixed one side only solution!!
USA - please show me concrete evidence that USA supports you - and I mean outside meaningless places like the OAS - of course they give you a vote there at times - it helps shut Buenos Aires up a bit and USA and UK know it counts for nothing.
Show me where USA has issued clear public statements BACKING(not merely suggesting talks as that is NOT the same as backing)- but BACKING for your claim?
#56
Jun 26th, 2011 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely nothing but various Latin American nations regularly extract concessions from Argentina for sympathetic platitudes that mean sweet FA. But it has the usual suspects on Mercopress making a mess in their trousers.
Really,what he was bragging about?
Jun 26th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why uk is alway loosing at the UN?
Exactly.Argentina was there first,and in order to get the proper tittles,you have to have a treaty.When a country lost territory to another,you sign a treaty.There is no cesion from Argentina,so you are squatters...
Argentina invited you for arbitration,uk always ignore.No deal,no cesion.End result: You are squatters....
Result: UN,OAS,Brasil,recognizes Argentine sovereignity!!
Finish...Take Argentina to court if you have a case......
So far you are loosing everywhere,rogers,imploring their ilegal take over of Argentinas island.....Tomorrow Argentina is stronger and kick you out from there.Everything perfectly legal....Fair enough?
Neither the UN the OAS or Brazil recognise Argentine sovereignty, you plank.
Jun 26th, 2011 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we are the ones who have sovereignty, so if you want it you have to take us to court. We don't need to take you to court because we don't want anything from you.
Losing are we? Is the Falkland Islands flag still flying proudly over the islands? Yes, good. Doesn't look like we've lost anything yet.
“ ... Why uk is alway losing at the UN? ...”
Jun 26th, 2011 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must have an interesting interpretation of the word 'losing'! Every year the UK ignores the C-24. Every year the UK repeats much the same statement to the Fourth Committee. Every year since 1988 nothing happens!
And the Falkland Island's remain British.
If that's losing it'll do for us :-)
And you still haven't offered any proof of your claim that Argentina asked the UK to go to international arbitration. Nor any reason why Argentina will not do so now that there is a permanent court available.
And the UK cannot take Argentina to the ICJ. Because you haven't fully signed up. When you do, then we'll have the opportunity to take you there. Which is why I suspect that Argentina does not fully recognise the ICJ.
Fair enough?
Estevez - how do you intend to kick us out? You are not willing to go down the legal road as you have just admitted (in a roundabout way) and ate delusional if you think you will ever be able to challenge us militarily.
Jun 27th, 2011 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW - have you read the latest results of the oil appraisal in the North Falkland Basin. Let it flow, flow, flow and flow some more. I guess I can hold that V for victory sign even higher. Sounds like your chances of getting your hands on the Islands have gone the same way as River Plate FC!
Now don't gloat Beef ... it's very unattractive :-)))
Jun 27th, 2011 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks to all our supporters who battle the Argentine lies, propaganda and lack of understanding of international bodies and how they work.
Jun 27th, 2011 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0But actually it is quite useful - they waste all this time and energy.....for nothing. They bark and bluster and quote resolutions in the OAS, the Rio Group, Iberio-Latam summits, and any number of other useless talking shops, which mean...............absolutely nothing. Keep going boys, the sound of your own b******t cannot drown out the fundamental legal and moral facts that the Falkland Islanders have the right to decide how our country is governed, and will continue to do so.
The latest democractic test saw a 6th generation Falkland Islander elected on a strong mandate supporting strong internal self government and association with the UK. Tell that to the C24.
@62 same way as River Plate FC! ...... I'm in mourning right now, I don't need you to rub it in ... :-))
Jun 27th, 2011 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39R.G.R.Liars,
Jun 28th, 2011 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0l've been saying that same thing for months now. Patagonia belongs to Britain. We were there first, so the Argentines in Patagonia are there illegaly, they are squatters(that definitely includes you, Cher Think!).
@29rmalone,
get lost, idiot & don't make threats that you cannot carry out.
@66 Sure why not !! Following the same criteria Admiral Bouchard attacked in 1818 Bahia de Monterrey (California). In conclusion , I am claiming Beverly Hills to Family's Over Seas Territories ..... lol!!
Jun 28th, 2011 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 067 Artillero601, Hahaha, Finally I agree something with you.
Jun 29th, 2011 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@@@)08*&^^^%%$“”!!!???>>>
Jun 29th, 2011 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69 Let me explain Briton, Isolde (the beautiful lady that swims with the whales), stated on @66 that Patagonia belongs to you all (GB). Not because somebody does a pit stop and refuel the car can claim the Gas Station, right? Do you follow ? :-))))
Jun 29th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@70Artillero601,
Jun 29th, 2011 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dolphins, not whales.
We were in Patagonia first, Artillero. l suppose we could share Patagonia with you but not the Falklands.
Wouldn't you like to be a General in the Patagonian Army?
We could even arrange to have Private Think in your Corps. OJ!
:-)))))))))))))))))))) !!!!!!
Jun 29th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0actualy it was a slip of the keyboard sorry .
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