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EU/Mercosur trade talks ‘only after the October election’, requests Argentina

Wednesday, July 20th 2011 - 07:10 UTC
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On request from Argentina advance on EU/Mercosur trade talks will be delayed until after next October’s presidential election, revealed the EU Trade Commissar Karel de Gucht. Read full article

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  • briton

    ‘Only after the October election’, requests Argentina
    We don’t want the electorate to know the truth to soon would we,
    CFK may not get re-elected otherwise???
    [corruption, nowhere better than the land of peace .]

    Jul 20th, 2011 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    With 30+ countries involved in this EU-Mercosur agreement, there will always be half a dozen countries in an election year.

    Nothing will ever happen if this is an allowed constraint.

    Trading Blocs should recognise this and agree internally a concessions structure to bring advantage back to those most disadvantaged by the electoral cycle. This allows trade agreements to actually happen (We have been waiting 10 years for this one!).

    The optimum strategy would be to harmonise all national elections across all trading blocs - herding cats comes to mind.

    Jul 20th, 2011 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    With any luck the EU will have either imploded or exploded by October. Europe will become immeasurably more wealthy by not having to pay all the useless eurocrats. Then we can go on to explain to Argentina that we really don't want any of their cr*p. And that they are welcome to keep it and shove it where the sun don't shine.

    Jul 20th, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Then we can go on to explain to Argentina that we really don't want any of their cr*p. And that they are welcome to keep it and shove it where the sun don't shine.
    You are not buying any of our crap.In fact,the Intramercosur trade and Asia are the main market.
    uk is FINISHED...who wants to have any thing to do with them....
    Jim Rogers the UK is FINISHED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
    bye bye,thyphoon looser.....
    I hope the do not cut too much your unemployment insurance..

    Jul 20th, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Typhoon's as vulgar and dumb as ever. The EU/Mercosur round of negotiations are a two way street; both blocs have an interest to export to the other. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the EU was the one who first manifested interest in the trade agreement, just like the WTO's Doha Round of negotiations of the early 2000s was organized by developed countries interested in increasing their manufactured exports to developing ones, and failed because those same 1st World countries didn't want agricultural products from 3rd World - that is, they only wanted to export, not to import. (It was for a similar reason that the FTAA didn't take off.)

    So, Typhoon, if you don't want Britain to export products from Argentina or other 3rd World countries, then ask your government officials to stop offering UK products to other countries, too. For no one will accept an imbalanced agreement where you only do the importing but won't export anything.

    Jul 20th, 2011 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Export from uk? What are they going to export? They do not have industry,agriculture is heavily Subsidized? Are they going to export the services?Insurance,banks....
    I see nothing to gain from them.
    We open our market,in the '90,with no gain for us....
    It is a failure!!
    We do not need them...They need us! And I am not interested....
    Europe's debt crisis
    World's worst menu
    Greece has no good options left
    http://www.economist.com/node/18744305
    Anyway,who cares about uk??uk is finished!
    The pirates-liars had finally meet justice....

    Jim Rogers the UK is FINISHED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the loser still complaing,
    but never turns down overseas investments,
    pot black , hello .

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    the loser still complaing,
    but never turns down overseas investments,
    pot black , hello .
    Who uk?Because they lost the empire,not Argentina....
    Anyway,who cares about uk? Is finished!!
    That is the reality....
    Last year,45000 Spaniards went to Argentina,to settle there...loosers? You are the ones,the brits....
    Solong bakrupt nation!it will take 2-3 generations to repay the debt...
    Your problem,not Argentina...

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • geo

    England's most important export item has been
    the irregular / incoherence grammered English Language !

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    “England's most important export item has been
    the irregular / incoherence grammered English Language !”
    Yes,it is!! Their education in differents forums,show up too well,the decadence of uk!
    There was a time,in the past,I used to respect and love them.....
    What has happened....then...

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    they have grown up.
    And you lot have degraded,
    the only real problem with ENGLISH is fools like you lot, cant understand it,thats not our problem its yours.

    as for europe
    greece has tonight been bailed out for another 109 billion,
    with banks pitching in approx 32 billion,
    payback over a longer period, at a lower interest rate,
    [wid woo wundersland flat wid woo]
    italians , one forward 5 back,
    geo, incoherence , only when you are drunk.
    lol.

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    as for europe
    greece has tonight been bailed out for another 109 billion,
    with banks pitching in approx 32 billion,
    payback over a longer period, at a lower interest rate,
    [wid woo wundersland flat wid woo]
    italians , one forward 5 back,
    geo, incoherence , only when you are drunk.
    lol.
    AHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ah tarzan i presume lol

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    ah tarzan i presume lol,Yes, and you are Cheetah!
    Really to be exultant for that,only shows your supine ignorance!!
    Do you realize how long it will take to pay that?Your grand children,may be will finish paying,IF NO NEW DEBT IS ISSUED!!!
    It is obvious,that you are totally ignorant about SA,economic potential.uk,greece,spain,etc,have no chance,to even produce close to SA.
    Did you know that Argentina,can grow,more Corn and Soybean than the USA?
    Did you know,that the smallest province in Argentina,Tucuman,is the world leader producer of lemmons?They even produce more lemmons than California...
    Did you know that SA,has the largets hydroelectric production of any region in the world?Not to mention the inmese strategic mineral,like Copper,Uranium,Iron,OIl,Gas...
    You DO NOT KNOW,What you are talking about!!!
    EUROPE HAS A CIVILIZATION IS FINISHED!! GET OVER WITH THAT!!!

    Jul 21st, 2011 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    mmmmhow great argentina is then.
    you have no debts no coruption no problems.
    i think you will find argentines went to spain, not the other way round,
    and if europe is finnish, why you still moan about it then,
    if argentina is so great, why are you 137th out of 199 countries on the debt ladder, ,, tell you what,
    here is your key back, the asylum opens at midday, be there lol.

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    mmmmhow great argentina is then.
    you have no debts no coruption no problems.
    i think you will find argentines went to spain, not the other way round,
    and if europe is finnish, why you still moan about it then,
    if argentina is so great, why are you 137th out of 199 countries on the debt ladder, ,, tell you what,
    here is your key back, the asylum opens at midday, be there lol.
    Sure,briton...Europe is going forward......to the asylum together with you.....
    And yes Europe as a civilization IS FINISHED.May be you should read some more about philosophy and civilization....
    uk is such a decadent country....

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    oih i just wrote all that,
    and we bother all cant fit in the asylum,
    but as it is in argentina,
    we will let you go first, Europe is finnished, Europe is finnished,
    my kingdom for a new euroland, said the wizard,
    argentina is going cheep cheep, lol.

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Sure,britton....we have a poet....still,EUROPE has a civilization is OVER!!
    Just to read you and the majority of pro brits,shows too well.
    What we have to learn from thet civilization today???
    SA is the future.....bye,bye gonners....

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    bye bye losers.
    the world will end by midnight says the argies,
    we will see you in the morning then lol.

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    I hope never to see you or the brits in the SOUTH ATLANTIC and MALVINAS!!!

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    then the sooner you kick the bucket the better,
    the brits will still be in the south atlantic, when you are food for the fishes lol.

    Jul 22nd, 2011 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    then the sooner you kick the bucket the better,
    the brits will still be in the south atlantic, when you are food for the fishes lol.
    The brits will be obliterated,comming soon to you Cheetah(I am sorry for CheetaH,she is a lot smarter than you,VULGAR HOOLIGAN!!
    The brits ARE GONNERS!!
    MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!!!

    Jul 23rd, 2011 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    18 Malvinero1 “Sure,britton....we have a poet....still, EUROPE, as a civilization is OVER!!”

    Interesting point, but it is questionable:

    All countries, through globalisation, are loosing their distinctive differences that define them as distinct 'civilisations' (as you put it).

    Can a continent (Europe) be described as a single civilisation? I doubt it.

    A civilisation is something that does not just 'happen' - where you wake up one day and say “Hey, we have a civilisation; I am civilised!”
    It is the amalgam of centuries of experience and common values. Thus, we can say that South and North America are merely transposed European civilisations. We can call the indigenous tribal communities of the two continents 'civilisations', but that begs the question of Level of Development necessary to be afforded the title.

    The contemporary British experience, within Europe, is one of new civilisations transposing from elsewhere (esp. the Indian sub-continent) and existing alongside the pre-existing civilisation of the UK - the celtic, anglo, Saxon, etc sub-civilisations having merged centuries ago.

    So, the question is - has colonised South America evolved far enough to be considered a civilisation, to be considered civilised, and to be considered as sufficiently different from its (Iberian) roots for it to be a separate and distinct entity.

    Jul 23rd, 2011 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Thank you [ GeoffWard2 ]
    but sadly he wont understand that piece,
    hi he just pure anti british,
    so i guess some parts have yet to evolve .

    Jul 23rd, 2011 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rob the argentine

    To Briton (about comment #15) you said: “i think you will find argentines went to spain, not the other way round”. Yes, lots of argentines are leaving the country looking for a better live. Most of them go to Spain and US.
    But, there are some Spaniards coming to Argentina. People with University's degrees and work-experience in special areas where you don't find local people with these knowledge.
    Also I know about a few from England that moved to Argentina, same reason.
    Right now in Argentina nearly 45% is unemployed or sub-employed but, 50% of big companies have great problems to find employees with the knowledge and experience needed in today markets.
    Also, most of argentines going to Spain get documents as spaniards because they have parents or grandparents spaniards (Spain's Law let it), same in Italy.

    Jul 27th, 2011 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    But, there are some Spaniards coming to Argentina. People with University's degrees and work-experience in special areas where you don't find local people with these knowledge.
    LAst year 45000 Spaniards came to Argentina,to make a living.
    45% unemployed/ you are wrong,is about 7.5%
    If this is the reality you live......
    no wonder,you have all the Malvinas history,plus the geographycal and juridical reasons all WRONG!!
    You live in Mendoza? Are you unemployed?
    http://www.indexmundi.com/es/argentina/tasa_de_desempleo.html
    On the other hand,uk is finished!!
    Jim Rogers the UK is FINISHED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.indexmundi.com/es/argentina/tasa_de_desempleo.html
    Jim Rogers VS Gordon Brown, leave UK for Asia and drop the pound
    http://www.indexmundi.com/es/argentina/tasa_de_desempleo.html
    I live in Tucuman,and Tucuman is Boooming!
    The industry,and the farm sectors are booming!
    Soybean prices around $550/Ton.plus the Sugar Cane,and the ethanol industry,plus the lemmon price(by the way Tucuman is the largest producer of Lemmons,in the world,over 1.3 Million Tons) is at all time high.Tucuman,produces more lemmons than California.
    Rob: You can leave the uk,and work for them....It will take 2 generations for the uk to repay the Huuuuge debt(uk 3 largest debtor in the world.)...

    Jul 27th, 2011 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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