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Brazil reiterates Falklands-flagged vessels will be banned from entering its ports
Brazil reiterated its intention of banning all Falklands’ flagged vessels from calling at the country’s ports and described as “illegal” the current round of oil exploration in the Islands’ waters. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhich only goes to show that you CAN fool some of the people, ALL of the time! Still, we were in desperate need of a bit of news and the Great God Merco has smiled upon us.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that it's a good policy too .. after all with both Brazil and Argentina refusing access to British flagged ships involved in oil exploration, the whole of the islander's attempts to utilise their own resources has ground to a halt!
Oh, sorry ... what was that? Argentina let some ships into their port only recently! Really? To help their own industry in exploring for oil!, Oh, so it's just Brazil that's not getting any benefit then !
Which only goes to show ......... :-)
Quite hard to ban Falklands flagged vessel when such a species does not exist :)
Aug 01st, 2011 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol @ mad mohammeds
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0In a few decades Brazil will start being partner with Mexico, the other BIG economy in Latam. From there, and having British investments in Brazil, they will forget about this flag's issue.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the moment Brazil still needs Argentina as a partner to grow.
“ ... all measures susceptible of being regulated to impede the access to its ports of vessels flying the ‘illegal’ colours of the Malvinas Islands”...”
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are the 'illegal colours', what do they look like and to which ships are they attached?
Sound like this agreement was drawn up by a cunning Brazillian lawyer :-)
The Falkland Islands have their own version of the Red Duster. The Falkland Island flagged vessels consist of a few yachts and a coastal freighter.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually the Br Ant Survey Vessela are registered in Stanley so alsocan fly the FI version of the Red Ensign. But as usual its the normal stuff - verbal support for Arg to make them feel happy - but with the caveat about “within Int Law” which of course means Brazil will not actually prevent vessels entering port. It is so amusing that the Argentines fall for it all every time - meaningless statements to keep them happy!
Aug 01st, 2011 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If any FI flagged vessels exist then simply change them all to Korean flagged ships and the Brazilian gvt will be happy to have them unload their catch in Brazilian ports.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now which country did that specialist well test equipment pass through en-route to the FI a few months back??? Was it Brazil?
By preventing free passage to innocent ships is breaking International Law, that means Argentina and Brazil, not the Falklands is breaking International Law. Also, how is the Falklands' flag “illegal”, we are recognised by the UN! Argentina keep bettering themselves in the sense of rolling out utter nonsense. Very entertaining though.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#9 M_of_FI: “...how is the Falklands' flag “illegal”...”
Aug 01st, 2011 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not...but she said the “‘illegal’ colours of the MALVINAS Islands”. Must be referring to the flag of the ”Provincia de Tierra del Fuego, Antártida e Islas del Atlántico Sur ” then, I guess.
The key part of the communique is “in conformity with International Law and respective domestic legislation.”
Aug 01st, 2011 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such a decision is not in conformity with International Law and so will not be implemented.
Such a decision is not in conformity with domestic (Brazilian) legislation so will not be implemented.
Mrs K has got her headline to try to keep fooling the Argentine people; we will get on with running a successful economy.
The sooner the Falkland Islands become part of the British Commonwealth the harder will be for Argentina to pose any realistic threat! On the other hand, if I were in CFK shoes...I should build a strong Navy and strong Air Force with significant strength to support territorial claims!...fortunately I am not CFK.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheers mates!
#12 atk357: “The sooner the Falkland Islands become part of the British Commonwealth....”
Aug 01st, 2011 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a BOT, they already are part of the British Commonwealth (hence the participation of a separate Falkland Islands team in the Commonwealth Games). They're just not one of the 54 independent member states.
Rob The Argentine...Your are not argentinian...why do you pose as argentinian then?
Aug 01st, 2011 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Rob proves a point Searinox, you can pretend your something else to get around the rules, such as all Falklands Flagged Vessels deciding to change their Registration to that of another country, that way they can enter any port in Brazil or Argentina. The other angle is an open joke in relation to his moniker, 'Rob the argentine', just think about it...ok you still don't get it? To rob=to steal? Still no penny dropping? I'll stop there as you're obviously confused.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Brazil reiterated its intention of banning all Falklands’ flagged vessels from calling at the country’s ports and described as “illegal” the current round of oil exploration in the Islands’ waters”
Aug 01st, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you Brazil!!
Thank you President Dilma Rousseff !!
Don't cry Brits and londongaucho you will get used to it :-)))
Chile does not allow Falkland flagged vessels (however they might look), because we do not recognize their independency from the UK.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK flagged ones are welcome!
*gg*
But Marcos, I want to thank Brazil for allowing oil expo and testing equipment through their ports en-route to Stanley. So much for solidarity!
Aug 01st, 2011 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that now a day it's getting harder to steal the resources of SouthAmerica, jajajaja, isn't it?
Aug 01st, 2011 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get used to it, and a lot more.
From SouthAmerica with love.
some latecomers here did not read the story nor earlier entries! The “ban” is qualified by acting inline with Int Law, as per the same spiel recently from Unasur and everywhere ekse Christina goes to rant-amazing she falls for it every time! - that means Brazil will in practice NOT ban any ships! Also an FI Flagged vessel was in a Chilean port last week Manrod - we are not independednt of UK either- Argentina prevents it!
Aug 01st, 2011 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No problems for the Islands, we continue as normal as does the offshore exploration - infact it doubles later this year - yes these threats are really hurting!
Juan you are so far gone its quite sad. Lets see if all this talk will actually lead to any real changes. A Falklands vessel managed to get to Chile and back in the last month without any problems from the Argentines...seems like your policing of “International Law” against the “illegal colours of the Falkland Islands flag” is not as strict as all you Argies seem to boast. But then again, the Argentines are too busy trying to find a way for River to get back in the top flight! Laughable.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another nail in the ”British Pirate’s Oil Exploration” coffin in the South Atlantic.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What flag do the ships supporting oil exploration fly?
Aug 01st, 2011 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel all these multilateral declarations are very sad and neither Argentines nor FI residents deserve being treated as mere observers of what our politicians do to us, beginning with the 1982 war. The islands issue is sacred to Argentines since the United States took them from Argentine hands in 1832, but as there is a population there - implanted or not - I believe that their wishes should be taken into account in all negotiations.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think - then why does Brazil still allow FI bound traffic associated with the oil exploration to pass through it's waters and cal into Brazilian ports.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How did that second well test kit turn up. By magic?
@25
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)) !!
“Brazil reiterated its intention of banning all Falklands’ flagged vessels from calling at the country’s ports and described as “illegal” the current round of oil exploration in the Islands’ water”.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos #16: This exploration is no more illegal under international and national laws than is that of Brasil exploring and exploiting 'its' pre-salt deposits in the Atlantic.
If Brasil does become a belligerent and intercepts UK/TFI vessels on the high seas, or stupidly tries to impound a UK/TFI vessel in a Brasilian port, it may need to build super-quick a proper navy to defend its offshore oil platforms.
Hopefully, Brasil will not suffer from the bellicosity of the Argentinians; these platforms are so, so vulnerable.
25 Beef +1
Aug 01st, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil is more than happy to accept the business of civilian ships moving to and from the FI, regardless of what industry they are connected with. Korean fishing vessels or those transporting drilling kit.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is also happy to work with companies who have made some money from sub-contracts in support of the FI exploration campaign.
Ultimately, it is a game of following the money and the politicians are trying to look big and powerful so they can win the votes of the mindless proletariat.
How disrespectful!
“Words are carried away by the wind” ..... ;-))
Aug 01st, 2011 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you keep on pushing babe,
Aug 01st, 2011 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and you will need more than plastic on your face,
argentina, the land of peace,and flying pigs.
There being an election in the offing how come we don't hear of any normal 'electioneering' from Lubra Lips ... you know... promises of better health care, trains that run on time, free beer, that sort of stuff?
Aug 01st, 2011 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think ... that tic-tak dates back to last October ... :-)
Aug 01st, 2011 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it looks like both woman are viying for attention,
Aug 01st, 2011 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it would be such a shame if Dilma Rousseff allows Cristina Fernandez
to drag her down with her, to her level
still ? who;s to argue with a woman , let alone two,??
27 GeoffWard2 Are you threatening Brazil? Be careful Dilma will send you back to England in no time.
Aug 01st, 2011 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef give them some time and the doors will be completely shut and your test equipment will have to be delivered by a whale.
MoreCrap, don't you read the posts? Equipment is still getting through .... it's just BS for the Argentine people !
Aug 01st, 2011 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed cr*p
Rotted, According to who? Beef? :-))) Like I said Rott give us sometime.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perseverance is more prevailing than violence, get used to it.
We are used to it ... we've had 178 years to get used to the islands being British :-)
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're just a mushroom lol
What can I say ??? It seems that I´m getting blind or near to it....but within the last two weeks I saw the Falklands Islands flag flying on top of the mast on two vessels at Prat pier, the Punta Arenas port and the local ASMAR repair facilities......which means that Chile does recognize the Falklands Islands as a country. On the other hand, the Chilean Sanitary Authority - SAG - addresses their international phyto and zoosanitary certificates to the Falklands Islands Sanitary Authority, as well the Chilean Custom Service addresses their DUS (Unique Output Document) to the Falklands Islands Custom Service.....Anyway, Falklanders you are welcome to Chile !!! as well the Argentines or any other Latam mates.....or Europeans, or Asians, or Africans or Australians.......
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What can I say??? Piñera was doing so well until he betrayed the people of Chile, before he took some Chilean rocks to the Queen his approval ratings reached 63%, and now his disapproval rating hit 56%, the lowest in twenty years. Our Chilean neighbors are sending this selfish billionare out of office with any dreams of little help for the British squatters in Malvinas.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way I need a windshield for the Mamut, any help please :-))
Thank you Sergio, much appreciated. And you're welcome here.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oi Thinko!!!!!
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you said the Straits were Argentinas and they said who could come and go?
How did these ships get to Punta??????????
Maybe they snuck around via the new lighthouse :-)
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, Piñera's current disapproval does not have the slightest thing to do with the treatment of the Falklanders, but internal issues.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0So bringing in his situation into this discussion is absolutely irrelevant. Falklanders do show respect to Chile, so they will be treated the same, no matter if Piñera is on power or if the opposition, let's say... Mr Ignacio Walker, the most likely successor of Piñera.
Probably, if the K-Clans steps out of power and Macri takes over, the waters between Argentina and UK will calm again ;)
Have any of you bought a plot of land in the moon? They are on sale now (check the web) and it appears that there are few Argentines that have bought one each. I wonder what would happen if 'okupas' build their huts on these moon plots. Who would be able to dislodge the invaders? Is this a metaphor of what happens in the South Atlantic?
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Err no! There are no 'squatters' in the south Atlantic, unless you are referring to those sons of the conquistadors who implanted themselves on the continent.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And ownership of moon plots is a fantasy, much like Argentina's claim to the Falkland islands :-)
Read and learn - http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/
44 Manuel, I didn't say that the “brown nose” action by Piñera back then caused the drop of his ratings. Check and you will see that he's approval ratings reached 63% around that time and now....you know better than me.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saludos y suerte en las eliminatorias.
I suggest Brasil keep it's nose out of other peoples business, deals with its own social problems, and let the people of the Falkland Islands decide their own future.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is two old, ill women propping each other up physically and politically.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They don't have too many friends they can turn to.
I guess with what is known about them and their past they have to hang together because, if there is a change of governments, they could both hang separately.
De-amnestys are wonderful two-edged swords; I guess, with every change in power in SA, de-amnestys will always hang the previous incumbents.
It sure is a wonderful life! }-)
what then gives argentina the right to put comunities on the south pole and claim it,
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then deny others,
shambolic, argentina should grow up, rejoin the civilised world, and renowce all claims to the falklands forever,
39 Sergio Vega
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'....but within the last two weeks I saw the Falklands Islands flag flying on top of the mast on two vessels at Prat pier, the Punta Arenas port...'
I wondered when someone was going to notice that!
these to ladies are wise monkeys indeed,
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0deaf and blind, but as long as the people are conned, then all is ok.
At last Brazil realizes that British occupation of Las Malvinas is illegal!
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would like to know when is Brazil going to recognize fact of Chile's illegal occupation of Tierra del Fuego and Beagle Channel??? And also where is there support for stopping Uruguay from stealing Argentine electricity???
I am think that Las Malvinas will soon be Argentine and so too Georgias del Sur and Antarctica, we will control all natural resources in region, build up a huge armed forces and reoccupy Uruguay and Chile. Chile is a major force for imperialism in the America's as support the British and America colonial pigs. They must be destroyed.
All you colonials will soon be ethically removed from Malvinas, like your colonial cousins in Africa.
“these to ladies are wise monkeys indeed,
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0deaf and blind, but as long as the people are conned, then all is ok.”
Briton, how nice how you describe your ugly grandmother and mother..:D
40 & 47 @ marquitos, as you well know the fall of the Piñera's Gvt. popularity is just because there is a hard campaign against it leaded by the opposition leftiest parties.They haven´t any proposition to improve the Chilean level of life, proven during their long term at the presidency and as official parties....20 years when our country didn´t grow as it could, opened the door to the government corruption and kept open the scars of the hatefulness among the Chileans from the Popular Unity Gvt. on the early 70's....The opposition focus is to keep the people sight just over the fake troubles invented by themselves so nobody realize the good news the country have in all kind of matters.....But they will fall by their own weight, because the popularity of the Concertación parties (opposition) is going down worse than the Gvt. is, so even in an election right now they won't be the winners, fortunately.....
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, I was looking for Malvinas Argentinas in the maps and just found the stadium at Mendoza.....,nothing more. Just a spicy comment.....lol
spicy spicy spicy
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and your country is that thin and large noodle you see at the left of argentina???
lolololololololololololoolololoolo
imaoimaoimaoimaoimaoimao
55 Sergito, Chile is such a rich and beautiful country, there is not need for the falling president Piñera to go kiss the British feet nor for you to buy Rovers parts from Malvinas.
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Piñera's popularity is collapsing because he is a huevon antipueblo.
Congratulations al pueblo Chileno.
HIMNO NACIONAL CHILE - ¡No a Hidroaysén!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozvJUPIQBjI
@Geoff
Aug 02nd, 2011 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whoa Geoff, why the bitterness? I remember everytime the Dilma government took a measure you supported, you in no mean terms declared how much you admired her even though you hadn't voted for her.
Now, everytime you're disagreement with her,you adduce her 'terrorist' past, and even in a previous message engaged in a revenge fantasy against your wife's country, something that I would more likely expect from the likes of Typhoon. You're too volatile for an old person. I see that you're not sufficiently enjoying the green lifestyle you mentioned in another post.
Ah, south cone unity .... ain't it a fearsome thing?
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0FlipFlop - you must have a lot of friends. Are they allowed to visit ?
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo is the same person as Typhoon. Not even as his faux Argentinian persona can he disguise his racism.
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo/Typhoon/Harrier61/Conqueror same British a..hole.(Brian R.)
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0To get back to the post, its about a deal!
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you know that there's another deal? Between Britain and Argentina!
http://lordton1955.wordpress.com/
Gotta watch them politicians !
@64 Redhoyt,
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Says it all, really.
Thanks Red.
@56 malen,
That's not very smart, is it dear girl? But you Argentines love upsetting & insulting your neighbours.
Words like yours only drive us & the Chileans closer together.
woohoo Filippo!!! Your flamewar intention is so silly that I don't even need to get into detail. It almost looks like you wouldn't be Argentine and try to discredit your own countries position.
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0So I am not even sure, it might be your comment is an intent of parody?
The only thing which is for sure, is that your own “existance is illegal”.
what choice does Brazil have when Libya is being destroyed for their oil Brazil might be next since UK keeps their colonial atitude in south America no body recognizes the UK legitimacy over Malvinas Argentina, lets not forget that USA and UK have always aimed at trying to control latinamerica's resources, we have to get ready to defend our land to avert a repeat of what's going on in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan in Latinamerica.
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I,
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0getting into a bit of flaming yourself I see!
My #27 was no troll, just a natural reaction to what might come about if BA/AR start getting bullishly 'high-handed' with TFI question.
54 Fido Dido
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so nice of you to defend them
you must be proud
@53
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo (with double P?) anyways , we , Argentines , call them Malvinas so in the future , you can eliminate the “ Las” ..... just FYI !!!
@70
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Worse than that, he used to call them “Los Malvinas”, ingles pelotudo.
as long as he does not call them [los british falklands] lol.
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Forgetit #58,
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess I have so much tied up in Dilma living up to my hopes that every little back-slide hurts me personally.
She is so, so much better than her cosying up to CFK . . . . why is she doing it?
Politics is not yet her strength, and it is showing.
73 GeoffWard Are you getting jeaulos?
Aug 03rd, 2011 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geoff, what hurts you, is that you don't like to see such “provocation” against your home country. You're still a nationalist British at heart.
Aug 04th, 2011 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does Reverend Moon have to say about the latest News?
Aug 04th, 2011 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Latin American declarations over Falklands were seen by analysts as part of an effort to rattle investors who remain optimistic that commercially viable quantities of oil can be found in the Falklands waters to ensure returns on their investments .......*
Brazil also backed Argentina's historical claim that its forces got to the islands before Britain did in the 1830s, a contention challenged by Britain…………
The hardening of Brazilian position means that Falklands shipping has to contend with not only Argentine but also Brazilian ban on access. Falklanders have also faced obstacles in other Latin American countries…………
The communique left little doubt that Fernandez received unequivocal Brazilian support for its key position as part of its international campaign against British presence on the islands………….
Where the latest rhetoric leaves Brazil's relations with Britain remains to be seen………………
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2011/08/02/Brazil-bars-Falklands-shipping/UPI-96861312319696/
* Juppppppp…..
Rockflopper Exploitation down again again again and ................ again.
Yesterday it closed at 205,75p :-)))
Let’s see how it goes for them today…………………….
57@ Marquitos, already I know what can I say....yeap!!!
Aug 04th, 2011 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0First, Chile can be a thin and long country, but the world now says that is the country where Argentina is attached and where the things are well done....Is this what the world can say about your corrup country ?? Where a policeman is sold just for money enough for a cup of coffee ??? or a president became the owner of an almost entirely tourist southern city during his presidential term ??? or where his widow is sinking the country.....Our is rich enough to lend money to our central bank if we need it, but he won his money before become Mr. President.....
Your country is recognized as one where the given word is not honoured....(and we have a lot of expeirence about this item with your gvts.)...just a spicy commoent....lol
Give time to time, so we will see how Chile keep their raising way meanwhile Argentina keep going dwon with Mrs. Botox at the wheel....!!! But, don´t worry, if you want to change your fate you have the leader you need.....Mr. Macri....
Interesting article Think
Aug 04th, 2011 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Brazil intends to bar all Falkland-flagged shipping from its ports and backs Argentina's position that British-backed oil exploration in the South Atlantic islands' waters is illegal, it emerged after the two countries' presidents met in Brasilia”
I told you Beef, your test equipment will have to be delivered by a whale.
I repeat my earlier question.
Aug 04th, 2011 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the flag of the vessels supporting the current round of oil exploration?
A. It isn't the FI Red Duster...
brazil may well be treading on thin ice,
Aug 04th, 2011 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but hey, if an up and comming youngster want to blow it all away, by backing up and following a delinquent child down the path of ruin its up to them,
one they south American countries will wake up to the fact, that argentina has no case, and is using others to fight her corner,
the falklands are british, and will remain british as long as the islanders wish it,
and the likes of brazil should remember that,
but thats her choice,
OMG..Urinehopper illegal oil explorations going down the drain.
Aug 04th, 2011 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The last few days was going down the normal 4 to 5 % a day and TODAY.......
So far 155.62 -48.55 (-23.59%)
Disaster petroleum 12.25 -3.75 (-23.81%)
Beeeef, how's your short vacation going?
TWIMC (and Mr. Beef of course…….)
Aug 04th, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a nasty day for the British Pirate Oil Adventure in the South Atlantic!!!
Rockflopper Exploitation……..… down 22.24% today to 160.00 p
Despair Petrel………………..….. down 20.63% today to 12.50p
Borders & Southern Discomfort…down 13.04% today to 50.00p
Falklands Oil & Gaaaaas ……..… down 12.66% today to 50.00p
Arghhhhhhos………………..…... down 12.50% today to 21.88p
But take it easy……….
Tomorrow is another day
Chuckle chuckle™
I think it is a good idea that Think et al enjoy the share price decline, because unfortunately for them that is all they will ever enjoy regarding the Falkland Islands.
Aug 04th, 2011 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, how is the exploration of hydrocarbons in the Malvinas Basin in Argentine waters? I heard it came up dry.
(83) M_of_FI
Aug 04th, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ask:
“Think, how is the exploration of hydrocarbons in the Malvinas Basin in Argentine waters? I heard it came up dry.”
I say:
Jupppppp.............
Malvinas seem to be Driza-Bone.........
Investors seem to be waking up and smelling the coffe............
American doller
Aug 04th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0American cup of coffee,,,,not argentine,
british pound
british cup of tea, not argentine,
we have the money-and the oil will come sooner or later,
and argentina has none,
does anyone know what happen with RKH??? any news out there?? very oddd, isn't it?
Aug 04th, 2011 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the Ocean Guardian sunk right after was hit by reality.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0iluminados por el fuego is my favorite film because it shows how well our army was led in Malvinas and how they were let down by campesino cowards. It is well known that Argentina has best led army in the world but we have too many campesino only interested in themselves! We need people who are prepared to die for windswept islands not jobs, education and a future! These are but passing matters of little importance to the patriotic spirit of our nation, we need a cause to rally the socialistas to the national cause, otherwise they will wish to nationalize our businesses and we will be like Venezuela part of Axis of Evil!
Aug 05th, 2011 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP4SBPtzPGk
Oh no Brian Typhoon/Filippo is still awake.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop confusing me with other peoples, there is only one me!!!
Aug 05th, 2011 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank God!
Aug 05th, 2011 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the info on the share price Think, maybe a good time to get in. Of course you failed to mention that the Markets across the world took a battering this week because the Yanks couldn't get their act together.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Few shares held up ... gold didn't do too badly :-)
(92) Redhoyt
Aug 05th, 2011 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”……You failed to mention that the Markets across the world took a battering this week ……..”
I say:
The average fall for AIM Oil Companies yesterday was 6 - 7%
The “very, very risky” ones fell 10 - 13% (including BOR, FOGL, DES and ARG)
RKH was the top “downer” yesterday with over 22% fall…….
What’s the reason for it?
1) Rumors of Noil in their ongoing well……(very, very normal)
2) No CPR (Competent Person Report) until sometime next year…. (very,very odd)
3) Brazil’s news on Malvinas shipping….. (very, very nice :-)
4) YPF’s recent duster (very, very practical)
You say:
”…..maybe a good time to get in.”
I say:
Good times indeed
Chuckle chuckle™
The reason is a flight from the markets due to fears of a further recession.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I shall wait and watch for a good time to buy. It's probably the capitalist in me
:-)
Do your maths...............
Aug 05th, 2011 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Normal Oil companies down yesterday with 7%
High risk Oil Companies down yesterday with 13%
Rockflopper Oil Company down yesterday with 22.24%
Yeahhhhh......
Put your money where your mouth is............
Chuckle chuckle™
Since we're talking about the feeble state of the world economy, I'd like to point to the short article below. In 2010 I linked to it in here, and I remember there was quite a bit of skepticism towards it. Now not so much, I guess. The author has already gotten it right that the Middle East would be in much increased turmoil.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2009/wallerstein151209.html
@ Forgetit87 it looks like the world is changing fast and in Argentina will be time for another military coup, this time will be more strong than previous regime and will stand up to neighbors in Chile and Uruguay we may even need expedition to Paraguay to secure energy resource.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Mavlinas will also be taken back as British have no more aircraft carriers and few submarines and army is now smaller than British police force. Maybe you send police to secure islands?
Malvinas NO RIGHTS. Argentina will soon greet new world fascism with flags on streets, we will give the masses their patriotic side show to keep them happy and nation united. Fewer number of jobs will mean fewer people are needed.
perhaps if you thus transfered the millions of argentinians from argentina to the falklands, rename the islands, argentina islands,
Aug 05th, 2011 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then send all the falklanders to the mainland argentina, then rename it the falklands,
he presto, problem solved, you bloggers get the islands, and the islanders get the mainland,
that is what you want [isnt it]
You are correct Filippo. Britain no longer has the military strength to defend the Malvinas but it would not matter because the British people will not support another Malvinas conflict. The British people were re-educated by the Tony Blair government into a doctrine of multiculturalism and a one world community, so the British people are now more interested in having good relations with the nations of South America than they are with an Island, 8,OOO miles from Britain which is a left-over from Britain's imperial past and serves no purpose other than to antagonise countries that should be our allies.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 05th, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To the Fantasy Brother - think again!
Aug 06th, 2011 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7143613/an-american-context-for-uk-defence-cuts.thtml
So tell me, your military got enough money to buy any bullets this year ??
Redhoyt - Argentina only has to achieve a consensus with its neighbours and impose a blockade on the Malvinas, isolating it entirely from the mainland of South America. Britain will then have to provide direct air and sea links which will have to be paid for by the British taxpayer, which under the current economic climate and mood of the people will be unacceptable. The defence of the Malvinas already costs the British taxpayer nearly $300 million a year. And if oil is found, a presently unstable situation will become volatile with the British standing alone on one side and South and North America on the other - yes, the USA is unlikely to support the UK in a new confrontation with Argentina if Argentina acts with the support of its neighbours. And the European Union will certainly not involve itself.
Aug 06th, 2011 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fantasy11 - yeah right lol
Aug 06th, 2011 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0The islands cost the Brtish taxpayer very little and the British people will fight again should Argentina every develop enough cojones to try a third invasion.
You have no chance, you have no hope.
The Falkland Islands have been British since 1765 and Argentina's attempts at theft are doomed to fail.
The USA will stay out of it, if you believe otherwise then you are an even bigger fool than you paint yourself!
We are big enough and strong enough to look after our own.
Now go to bed child!
The USA will stay out of it, if you believe otherwise then you are an even bigger fool than you paint yourself
Aug 06th, 2011 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Already the USA has goofed,big time against latinamerica.No it is time for them to improve the relations.
It was always a mistake by the USA,to mistreat LatinAmerica.
Now,that South America,is getting comparable growth to the USA.they can not ignore that.
In 1950,USA economy was 7 times larger than the SA,today Brazil has surpased,in the real economy,many European country.And do not talk about GDP,because many EU countries,together with USA have an inflated economy..
It is time to go home for the uk,to the NOrth Atlantic......
You will loose MAlvinas.......
You want to bet? LAdy bug???
Falkland Islands have been British since 1765 and Argentina's attempts at theft are doomed to fail.
LIAR!!!!!!
LIAR!!LIAR!!!!
@104Malvinero1,
Aug 06th, 2011 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Calm down niño, get yourself a good mug of ltalian cappuccino & relax.
Red didn't lie. Contrary to the lies you have been taught, Argentina has NEVER owned the Falklands. We do.
(105) Isolde
Aug 06th, 2011 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still very glad for your “Wiggling Spanish Snake”, I can see ;-)
firer firer pants on fire, phew that was a hot remark,
Aug 06th, 2011 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0britain standing all alone against the mighty argentine military, and her allies, wow that makes it at least 100 to one against us,
well with all those odds theirs only one thing the outnumbered out gunned out shipped out manned, british can say,
bring it on,?????????
Isolde #105,
Aug 06th, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel sure that Argentina think they owned the Falklands for just a few months in 1982 - in just the same way that Nazi Germany thought they briefly owned the bit of Russia up to, but not including, Stalingrad.
Alsace & Lorraine show how long-term ownership is needed to be to become fixed in law, and usually after decisive victories on the battlefield:
around 920AD - England, then Holy Roman Empire;
after 1870 - Germany;
WWI (Ger.) 1919 - France;
WWII (Ger.) 1945 - France.
I guess that , because Argentina's brief foray was never ratified internationally as Argentina-owned-territory, they never really did legally own it!
I guess that , because Argentina's brief foray was never ratified internationally as Argentina-owned-territory, they never really did legally own it!
Aug 06th, 2011 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geoff.is more complicated than that.
You should have followed the excellent historical and legal analysis by Mr Argerich.
Another thing,Geoff.I did not answer,about the issue of civilization,before,because it is requiered a little bit of explanation,but by no mean,I have ignore your concepts!!
Regards
Geoff is placing his argument on the question of sovereignty which is an archaic defense that will carry no water in the arena of contemporary political debate.
Aug 06th, 2011 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alas Geoff, Britain is no longer 'great' and cannot project its power to the farthest reaches of the globe and if the issue of the sovereignty of the Malvinas is placed before the international community within the UN, you will lose.
The USA will at best abstain from the debate and at worst might reason in favour of its South American trading partners - as will the European Union who have enormous capital invested in nations like Argentina and Brazil.
This is not 1982 Geoff. The multinationals and private equity rule the world now not Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Reagan and they will have no problem in sacrificing an Island of 2,000 British citizens in order to protect their bottom lines.
This is not 1982 Geoff. The multinationals and private equity rule the world now not Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Reagan and they will have no problem in sacrificing an Island of 2,000 British citizens in order to protect their bottom lines
Aug 06th, 2011 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct fantazum!!!!
uk are gonners!!No doub about it!!
so just who do you belive,
Aug 06th, 2011 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0indoctrinated argentine bloggers, [ok your choice]
or the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,
purley on your blog,,,,,,,,[ready steady ,,,go]
110 fantazum2011 [ Britain is no longer 'great' and cannot project its power [,,[if the issue of the sovereignty of the Malvinas is placed before the international community within the UN,and basicly the USA and the EU will effectivly abandon the british,
111 Malvinero1 [he agrees with whatever]
the truth then ??????????????????????????????????????????????
The british can and will progect her power whenever she feels that she it threatend, [this is a fact] [call our bluff]
if it is placed before the ICJ,,,,,,,,,,
then for christs sake take it to the ICJ if you are that convinced,
[but you wont] [because YOU will lose]
the more u turn against the british, the ever more eager she will fight,
the bigger you are, the more you are, the better the fight will be, please dont make the same error as others, the british do not in fact ,at the end of the day, cares who backs her, or not, the british will fight to defend what is hers, if you think anything think else you are quite welcome to try,
great britain wants only peace, and to settle things peacefuuly,
as for anything else, i will say this, [first hand]
you vastly overestermate yourselves,,,,,,,,,,,,,
and more importently
you greatly under estermate the british,
toodle loo
“and cannot project its power to the farthest reaches of the globe and if the issue of the sovereignty of the Malvinas is placed before the international community within the UN, you will lose.”
Aug 06th, 2011 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually. The UK's ability to project power and place troops in remote areas have multiplied since 1982. Back then we struggled to put 5000 troops on the islands, we have in the last 10 years have had well over 10,000 troops in two different areas simultaneously, compaired to 1982 this is a major step up.
Secondly, The international community has constantly favored self determination in the last decades, if Argentina really believed it had a case at the UN it would have accepted the last few times we offered or would ask us to go to the ICJ...We would go.
sadly Zethe
Aug 06th, 2011 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to many argies still belive in fairies,
they have not a clue, just how powerfull great britain really is,
and that goes for at least another 6 powers .
I am sorry zethe but the facts are the facts. Britain cannot even maintain an air or sea-link to the Malvinas to support the present garrison on the Islands - you don't have the ships or the aircraft.
Aug 06th, 2011 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain's involvement in Libya is very restricted because you have no aircraft carriers or even sufficient aircraft and you have to buy the missiles for your aircraft from the USA at $700,000 apiece. What is left of your navy is confined to mine-sweeping off the coast of Libya.
Your navy is being reduced to the point where you will hardly be able to defend the coasts of Britain and you have no merchant navy so in any conflict where you would need sea transport they simply are not there anymore.
Sorry Zethe - but the world has moved on my friend.
Brazilians support Argentines in any and every case just like Australians support New Zealanders and Americans support Canadians. It's natural that a country supports its most integrated neighbour E.g. Argentina is Brazil's main trade partner after China. Argentina imports many different Brazilian industrialized products and trade imbalance is way favorable to Brazil. Not to mention turists. Brazilians travel A LOT to Buenos Aires and Bariloche during the winter meanwhile Argentinians “invade” Florianopolis and Balneario Camboriu in the summer. Now give Brazilians a reason for not support Argentina...
Aug 06th, 2011 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As to Falklanders do they even use Brazil's harbours for its vessels? Falkanders have always ignored the continent. South America is a distant world from their islands in the middle of South Atlantic.
As to a war I seriously doubt UK would move its navy just because this banning. It would be too bad for British economic interests in Brazil. It would be If it's the case Brazil does have an operant navy too, Charles de Gaule and France knows it well.
The block (South America) is already formed and the Falklands are not inside of it. It's in Europe's one. Not that it's not welcome but because it rather being part of UK even that the Britain is a dozen hours from flight from it than being a sovereign and respected state.
to many argies still belive in fairies,
Aug 06th, 2011 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they have not a clue, just how powerfull great britain really is,
and that goes for at least another 6 powers .
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I was rigth,you are Cheetah!!!!
As I predicted the collapse of North America and Western Europe continues as South America and Asia moves forward rapidly.The Brits will soon be negotiating with Buenos Aires.I notice The Argentine nuclear sub project is gatering pace and new locally made misiles are being tested.It the islanders had any sense they would be makeing serious efforts at talking now.indeed there are some Malvinenses of English backround migrateing to the mainland
Aug 07th, 2011 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see that this has become the fantasy thread.
Aug 07th, 2011 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of hot air not backed up by facts or evidence.
So - those who think that Britain can't protect its own, come and find out! In other words, put up or shut up!
And I see the loony irishman GaGa is back lol - Argie sub? It's all wind and water son, not even the Argies belive that the thing will ever see the light of day!
@Briton & Zethee,
Aug 07th, 2011 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Am l correct when l accept that the “Great” in Great Britain means the largest lsland in the British lsles? l think it was the Romans who called the main lsland Great Britain & called lreland, Lesser Britain.
Might not have been the Romans because they called lreland Hibernia.
Anyway it is a geological & political term but a lot of foreigners think that we are using the term to assume that our country is superior to theirs & this is not so. Your thoughts on this?
(120) Isolde
Aug 07th, 2011 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Am l correct when l accept that the “Great” in Great (Gran) Malvina means the largest lsland in the Malvinas lsles? l think it was the Spanish who called the main lsland Great (Gran) Malvina & called the other Island Soledad.
Might not have been the British because they called them East and West Falkland.
Anyway it is a geological & political term but a lot of Islanders are using the term to assume that Great (Gran) Malvina is superior to Soledad & this is not so.
Your thoughts on this?
More fantasy !
Aug 07th, 2011 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0120 lsolde
Aug 07th, 2011 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae:
Britannia major (greater Britain) = Great Britain
Britannia minor (lesser Britain) = Brittany
@123dab14763,
Aug 07th, 2011 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Dab, l knew l'd read something about it but wasn't too sure of the details.
l see sr Think is delirious again.
@121Think,
You really must stop cooking your bacon & eggs in hash oil in the morning Cher Think.
And for your information the island that you call gran malvina(real name West Falkland) is actually smaller than East Falkland.
Bacon&Eggs fried in Hash Oil…. Never heard of it before.... You really was a naughty girl huhhhh?
Aug 07th, 2011 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I’m afraid the high temperature would obliterate most of the good ol’ THC before consumption though…………
My little creative re-writing of your text was just an attempt to show how haughty you Brits sound, always assuming that the rest of the word are ignorants.
Besides…
I never said that Gran Malvina was bigger than Isla Soledad.
I said: “A lot of Islanders are using the term to assume that Great (Gran) Malvina is superior to Soledad…..Especially those Stanley City Slickers….
Long live the Camp!
Indeed the “looney Irishman” is back Redhoyt just to ensure that the poor servants of the empire from the periphery have some semblance of education and rceive some protection from the shocks that await them.Remember Think that none stand so steadfast to the embers of empire than the poor fools of outsiders institutionalized tom obey the master
Aug 07th, 2011 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(126) O gara
Aug 07th, 2011 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“Remember Think that none stand so steadfast to the embers of empire than the poor fools of outsiders institutionalized to obey the master”
I say:
You mean................................................................. like in Tottenham yesterday?
Chuckle chuckle ™
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Aug 07th, 2011 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0120 lsolde
Is Great Britain the same as Britain
Sometimes people use the shorten name Britain instead of Great Britain, to mean the same thing, but really Britain only refers to England and Wales.
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/britain/britain.htm
The name Britain goes back to Roman times when they called England and Wales “Britannia” (or “Britannia Major”, to distinguished from “Britannia Minor”, ie Brittany in France). The Roman province of Britannia only covered the areas of modern England and Wales. The area of modern Scotland was never finally conquered.
O gara. The nuclear sub is just an elaborate joke, or perhaps some kind of electioneering thing. For technical reasons it will never happen. My prediction is that this time next year the Santa Fe will still be in containers on the dockside as it has been since 1994 and there will be no word of any reactor...
Aug 07th, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton, there was no Britanny during Roman times. The Romans called the region Armorica, not Britannia. Britanny gets its name from British settlers who settled there after fleeing the Anglo-Saxon invasions. The Romans may not have used the term Britain for the whole island, but the Anglo-Saxons did.
Aug 07th, 2011 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0130 dab14763
Aug 07th, 2011 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are in fact, right and wrong.
I was mearly quoting from the sourse link above.
The british isle, or british islands were here as we all know for thousands of years, the romans refered to the islands as [as you stated]
on old roman maps, that i have, just copies from any library, show them as britanica, i presume it depends in what context and what conversation each person is refering to,
the link above states that great britain [today] is only England and wales, , but of course that what it says, look at the link,
and i think you will find that you are both right, but depending in what context, .
And now more threats .... must be an election year !
Aug 08th, 2011 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/sticks-and-stones/
sadly as i have been saying for a while now,
Aug 08th, 2011 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0the british goverment needs to get of its lazy backside and force to if nessesery by the falklands goverment,
to show some balls and put argentina in its place.
insted she buries her head in the sand, promises all but produces nothing,
perhaps this is the goverments ploy,
do nothing and they will just go away,
but this is just causing the argies to push and intimidate the islanders even more, they get more and more backing every day,
from other south american countries .
you might think this is nothing more than jingoism but from the argies point of view , the more they try to humiliate us the better, the less we do, gives the impression that its all ok,
just having forces their is not enough,
we need to inforce our control whenever you like it or not,
they have an embargo, plus banning of ships, and loads of other stuff,
you may think it silly, but each one adds up to the final showdown that will surley come, unless the goverment puts its foot down with them, to let them know enough is enough,
their is nothing to stop the brits playing tit for ta
if they blockade the falklands, we blockade argentina,
lets be honest, if the falklands today,
was american -french-chinese- iraninan, we would not be here would we,
because they would never put up with another country basicly threatening their territory, bullshit you might think,
but the more you let argentina get away with it, the more she will take the piss,, just my opinion , right or wrong, just my opinion .
Briton, you have not understood what I wrote. The link is wrong on one specific point. The Romans never made the distinction Britannia major - Britannia minor because they never used the term Britannia for the region where Brittany now is. The Romans called that region Armorica. The distinction Britannia major - Britannia minor was made by Geoffrey of Monmouth in his Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain) written about 1136.
Aug 08th, 2011 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@125 Think,
Aug 08th, 2011 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You love that word“haughty”, don't you? l don't know anyone haughty except perhaps your good self & that silly biased lcelander who also used the word(was that you, Cher Think?)! We are mainly ordinary folk with a right to our land that people like you want to take off us. lf anything, YOU are the haughty ones.
And fyi l have read Argentine bloggers on here trying to make a mockery of the word“Great” in Great Britain, by their comments they were assuming that we put it there purposely.
And you are wrong about the temperature destroying the effects, l can assure you.
l never said that you said anything about West Falkland, l merely pointed out that to call that island“Gran” and not call East Falkland “Gran” was as silly as calling the whole country that ridiculous m word that you use.
Long Live the Falkland lslands.
(135) Cher Isolde
Aug 08th, 2011 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“And you are wrong about the temperature destroying the effects, l can assure you.”
I say:
I would luuuuv to inspect your polytunnel....................
134 dab14763 hi
Aug 08th, 2011 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes im aware of geoffrey of monmouth writtings,
as you say the was wrong, just goes to show that you cant always belive what you read,
thanks anyway.
@136 Think,
Aug 09th, 2011 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Calm yourself Cher Think, l gave that sort of thing away long ago.
l'm a coffee addict now!
You were just trying to divert attention from my observations, which l note, you haven't tried to refute.
Perhaps we should call Patagonia, Gran Falklandia? & the Antarctic peninsula South Falklands?
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